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[EpyonX3]

zigamortis wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

zigamortis wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

zigamortis wrote...

@ paxxton
I cant talk for everyone but i think they should establish a cannon and have shepard as the mentor (perhaps the protagonist in the prologue) and have a new protagonist in ME4.

Alternatively, they could also stall a "future" installment and pull a Halo: Reach. There's no guarantee that the next ME title will pick up where this left off (or shortly after).

Shepard's story is done. Future ME games will have to be prequels or a new threat thousands of years later.

True and False all at the same time. Bioware is not dumb enough to scrap shepard. they might not have him as protagonist but he will not be gone from the ME series. same with the rest of the squad. 

Well of course Shepard can be mentioned. He's a very important person in the universe. But it won't star him or have little to do with him. He'll be easter egg material.

Possibly. I just hope for mentor shep, lots of interesting possibilitys. think of it, they could take all of your choices in to account and make your shep either advise you like a renegade or a paragon or if you kind of split your desicions in the 3 games and dlc he would be nuteral.

Mentor Shep is only possible with Control. But even that's close to impossible since Shepard is now the catalyst and is cut off from organics unless someone activates him on the Citadel.

[Big_Boss9]

EpyonX3 wrote...
Mentor Shep is only possible with Control. But even that's close to impossible since Shepard is now the catalyst and is cut off from organics unless someone activates him on the Citadel.

Or high EMS destroy if you believe he's still alive

[paxxton]

zigamortis wrote...

paxxton wrote...

zigamortis wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

zigamortis wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

zigamortis wrote...

@ paxxton
I cant talk for everyone but i think they should establish a cannon and have shepard as the mentor (perhaps the protagonist in the prologue) and have a new protagonist in ME4.

Alternatively, they could also stall a "future" installment and pull a Halo: Reach. There's no guarantee that the next ME title will pick up where this left off (or shortly after).

Shepard's story is done. Future ME games will have to be prequels or a new threat thousands of years later.

True and False all at the same time. Bioware is not dumb enough to scrap shepard. they might not have him as protagonist but he will not be gone from the ME series. same with the rest of the squad. 

Well of course Shepard can be mentioned. He's a very important person in the universe. But it won't star him or have little to do with him. He'll be easter egg material.

Possibly. I just hope for mentor shep, lots of interesting possibilitys. think of it, they could take all of your choices in to account and make your shep either advise you like a renegade or a paragon or if you kind of split your desicions in the 3 games and dlc he would be nuteral.

Hmm... That might work if the events in 4 would be somehow tied to the previous games so that we see a lot of references. And Shepard should be prominent (like a crewmember). Though it might be that if ME4 didn't have Shepard as a protagonist, his role would be like Picard's in Deep Space Nine.

Shep as the XO or a squad mate would be interesting. but i think he would be better placed as mentor.

XO would be a kind of degradation. A mentor at the age of 32? I don't know. Retirement? Ridiculous.

[Big_Boss9]

paxxton wrote...
XO would be a kind of degradation. A mentor at the age of 32? I don't know. Retirement? Ridiculous.

Dude saved the known galaxy. I think he's earned it. No, but it's not out of the question that they wouldn't jump ahead in time a bit if they decide to do that.

[zigamortis]

@ epyon
Your joking with it only being possible with control right? im talking about indoctrination. It would be totally badass though that if you pick synth or cont your shepard is an indoctrinated mentor. in the end you gotta kick his ass or he will help you take out the next bad guy if he isnt. and even if the endings are real he survives destroy.

[paxxton]

Big_Boss9 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...
Mentor Shep is only possible with Control. But even that's close to impossible since Shepard is now the catalyst and is cut off from organics unless someone activates him on the Citadel.

Or high EMS destroy if you believe he's still alive

He doesn't have to be activated. He simply is.

[zigamortis]

@ paxxton
In my idea of ME4 its about 20-40 years later and shep is running the N7 program or the alliance or some shizz and the new protagonist is fresh out of the N7 program.
Edit: i do agree with the XO being a degredation, it was just an idea for a possition on the normandy or new ship.

Modifié par zigamortis, 20 juillet 2012 - 01:43 .

[zigamortis]

I have officially created the basis of my headcanon. Must learn to properly construct eloquently worded paragraphs and make a fanfic. book.

Modifié par zigamortis, 20 juillet 2012 - 01:46 .

[JasonSic]

In case anyone hasn't seen this:

Question: What does Harbinger say just before hitting Shepard with the laser beam? "Save us" or "Serve us"? Something else?

Chris Priestly: Habringer doesn't actually say anything at that point. I know, I thought it did as well, but I asked teh Audio Team and they told me it is just sound effects, not actually speech.

This makes me sad...
Also, anyone notice that Chris always types 'teh' instead of 'the'?

Here's the source, it's near the bottom of the page. #17

Modifié par JasonSic, 20 juillet 2012 - 01:49 .

[paxxton]

People! THE WAR ISN'T OVER. YOU DON'T WIN A WAR LIKE THAT BY PUSHING A MAGIC BUTTON. Well, in the far RL future you'll probably be able to do that but Mass Effect is for show/entertainment for today's gamers and it has to show how you win it. Not just the fireworks! The so-called victory happened too fast and was too simple to be true.

Modifié par paxxton, 20 juillet 2012 - 01:51 .

[CoolioThane]

People, everything anyone saying regarding the future is total conjecture. What Epyon and Big Boss are saying is conjecture, what Iters think about the future is conjecture. Let's not try and convince people otherwise, as the only people who truly know what's going to happen is Bioware.

Stop acting like you know what's going to happen, stop speaking in definites, for we just do not know. This is all our opinion. Let us not forget this.

[Simon_Says]

a) EA won't let the ME franchise die. ME3 was a success financially, it's going to have sequels or prequels of some sort. It's only a matter of time.

Most fans associate Commander Shepard with the ME series. Imagine the confusion and backlash if EA were to release a core Mass Effect game without Shepard as a protagonist.

c) I don't see how they can move forward with Synthesis. Moving forward with Control will be incredibly tricky, and most likely end with betrayal. Moving forward with Destroy is the easiest and has the most potential.

[zigamortis]

If thats how i came across than i apologize. Im not trying to say that my interpretation is cannon im just saying what i believe to be at least probable or a possibility, albeit a kick ass possibility. Though i am trying to convince them to at least see what im saying from my point of view. For better understanding.

[Big_Boss9]

JasonSic wrote...

In case anyone hasn't seen this:

Question: What does Harbinger say just before hitting Shepard with the laser beam? "Save us" or "Serve us"? Something else?

Chris Priestly: Habringer doesn't actually say anything at that point. I know, I thought it did as well, but I asked teh Audio Team and they told me it is just sound effects, not actually speech.

This makes me sad...
Also, anyone notice that Chris always types 'teh' instead of 'the'?

Here's the source, it's near the bottom of the page. #17

I don't think that matters. The importance of that scene is that Harbinger is focused entirely on Shep in that moment. What he says (or doesn't say) is largely irrelevant.

[zigamortis]

Hmm i think im going to try and write a story for my idea. Think ill only be half paying attention to thread.

[EpyonX3]

Big_Boss9 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...
Mentor Shep is only possible with Control. But even that's close to impossible since Shepard is now the catalyst and is cut off from organics unless someone activates him on the Citadel.

Or high EMS destroy if you believe he's still alive

Yeah but EC shows that nothing but rebuilding and prospering for the next few hundred years. Shepard would be dead by the time something new happens.

[EpyonX3]

Simon_Says wrote...

a) EA won't let the ME franchise die. ME3 was a success financially, it's going to have sequels or prequels of some sort. It's only a matter of time.

Most fans associate Commander Shepard with the ME series. Imagine the confusion and backlash if EA were to release a core Mass Effect game without Shepard as a protagonist.

c) I don't see how they can move forward with Synthesis. Moving forward with Control will be incredibly tricky, and most likely end with betrayal. Moving forward with Destroy is the easiest and has the most potential.

Which means that they would have to make Destroy canon.

[paxxton]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

a) EA won't let the ME franchise die. ME3 was a success financially, it's going to have sequels or prequels of some sort. It's only a matter of time.

Most fans associate Commander Shepard with the ME series. Imagine the confusion and backlash if EA were to release a core Mass Effect game without Shepard as a protagonist.

c) I don't see how they can move forward with Synthesis. Moving forward with Control will be incredibly tricky, and most likely end with betrayal. Moving forward with Destroy is the easiest and has the most potential.

Which means that they would have to make Destroy canon.

And probably they will.

[Big_Boss9]

Simon_Says wrote...

a) EA won't let the ME franchise die. ME3 was a success financially, it's going to have sequels or prequels of some sort. It's only a matter of time.

Most fans associate Commander Shepard with the ME series. Imagine the confusion and backlash if EA were to release a core Mass Effect game without Shepard as a protagonist.

c) I don't see how they can move forward with Synthesis. Moving forward with Control will be incredibly tricky, and most likely end with betrayal. Moving forward with Destroy is the easiest and has the most potential.

a) Agreed

Not necessarily. See Halo: Reach

c) Totally agree

[zigamortis]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...
Mentor Shep is only possible with Control. But even that's close to impossible since Shepard is now the catalyst and is cut off from organics unless someone activates him on the Citadel.

Or high EMS destroy if you believe he's still alive

Yeah but EC shows that nothing but rebuilding and prospering for the next few hundred years. Shepard would be dead by the time something new happens.

If you take it seriously.

[Big_Boss9]

zigamortis wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...
Mentor Shep is only possible with Control. But even that's close to impossible since Shepard is now the catalyst and is cut off from organics unless someone activates him on the Citadel.

Or high EMS destroy if you believe he's still alive

Yeah but EC shows that nothing but rebuilding and prospering for the next few hundred years. Shepard would be dead by the time something new happens.

If you take it seriously.

Whether you take it seriously or not, there's no clear indication that it's been a few hundred years. Look how quickly the Crucible was constructed, for example.

[EpyonX3]

Big_Boss9 wrote...

zigamortis wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...
Mentor Shep is only possible with Control. But even that's close to impossible since Shepard is now the catalyst and is cut off from organics unless someone activates him on the Citadel.

Or high EMS destroy if you believe he's still alive

Yeah but EC shows that nothing but rebuilding and prospering for the next few hundred years. Shepard would be dead by the time something new happens.

If you take it seriously.

Whether you take it seriously or not, there's no clear indication that it's been a few hundred years. Look how quickly the Crucible was constructed, for example.

Stated by the developers that the slides look out hundreds of years after the fact.

[Simon_Says]

EpyonX3 wrote...

I can't imagine they'd be hiding this at this point. They've explained away some of the plot holes in the ending, (some, and they were realtively minor ones. The most egregious ones remain) they explained the dreams and the shadows of people (no they haven't. They explained what they represent, they never explained the purpose of that arc and what it finally culminated to in the ending) and they admit that the original plan was to leave the ending open to interpretation (But did they say that it was their plan to leave it that way?). They also state that there's no canon ending. IT would be a canon ending. (Moving forward with the MEverse will require a canon of some sort. Though yes, we can't say if they're going to actually move forward and not back.)

For the endings to be open to interpretation, they have to be taken literally first. Otherwise, you'd have to wonder if the whole series was a dream. (I fail to see the connection of logic here. It makes sense to start examing possible interpretations from a reductionist viewpoint and then noting what was wrong, true. But that's what we did, remember? The literal ending didn't add up logically or thematically, and so we deduce a dream sequence because a dream sequence would.)

Note that I haven't yet had a chance to examine everything Bioware said. I'll get on that now.

[Lokanaiya]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

a) EA won't let the ME franchise die. ME3 was a success financially, it's going to have sequels or prequels of some sort. It's only a matter of time.

Most fans associate Commander Shepard with the ME series. Imagine the confusion and backlash if EA were to release a core Mass Effect game without Shepard as a protagonist.

c) I don't see how they can move forward with Synthesis. Moving forward with Control will be incredibly tricky, and most likely end with betrayal. Moving forward with Destroy is the easiest and has the most potential.

Which means that they would have to make Destroy canon.

Unless they did IT....

[Big_Boss9]

EpyonX3 wrote...
Stated by the developers that the slides look out hundreds of years after the fact.

Didn't know that. I stand corrected.