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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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www.youtube.com/watch 
Thats what im talking about it sounds very similar to the "thud"

Modifié par zigamortis, 20 juillet 2012 - 04:09 .


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Lokanaiya wrote...

How do I take a screenshot in ME2 and then put it up here?

Or, before I do that, would people actually be interested in learning where some of the odd pictures that were in London appeared previously?


What odd pictures?

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Lokanaiya wrote...

How do I take a screenshot in ME2 and then put it up here?

Or, before I do that, would people actually be interested in learning where some of the odd pictures that were in London appeared previously?


There's no actual key for screenshots on PC, and if prnt screen doesn't work, recommend the free version of FRAPS. Can use paint or something like it to save files as jpeg, saves it bmp for the free version I think. You can also take 30 sec video captures.

Modifié par gunslinger_ruiz, 20 juillet 2012 - 04:12 .


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TJBartlemus wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

How do I take a screenshot in ME2 and then put it up here?

Or, before I do that, would people actually be interested in learning where some of the odd pictures that were in London appeared previously?


What odd pictures?


The paintings seen throughout London, you can also see the majority of them at Donovan Hock's mansion during Kasumi's loyalty quest in ME2. They're also in one more place, can't remember where.

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BioWare claims there is a lot of symbolism in ME3. In the endings, Synthesis/Control the 2 soldiers are losing and giving up. In destroy the 2 soldiers don't give up and keep fighting. Why have this difference only in Destroy unless BioWare is purposely sending the message that the other 2 endings are you giving up and Destroy is Shepard still fighting??

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

a) EA won't let the ME franchise die. ME3 was a success financially, it's going to have sequels or prequels of some sort. It's only a matter of time.

B) Most fans associate Commander Shepard with the ME series. Imagine the confusion and backlash if EA were to release a core Mass Effect game without Shepard as a protagonist.

c) I don't see how they can move forward with Synthesis. Moving forward with Control will be incredibly tricky, and most likely end with betrayal. Moving forward with Destroy is the easiest and has the most potential.

a) Agreed

B) Not necessarily. See Halo: Reach

c) Totally agree

I agree with everything except B. Look at Dragon Age. 3 protagonists in as many games. So long as squadmates show up, perhaps even Shepard himself,  and you have enough continuity between them, you can have another protagonist

And Epyon, there is another option beyond making Destroy canon...

Except DA didn't have three games with different protagonists. In DA2 you had only a single protagonist before, maybe even two. And those first protagonists had already completed their story arcs by the conclusion of Origins and Awakening.

The tale of the Warden vs the Blight only took one game. It was done, finished. There was no need to carry the Warden over to new tales in the setting. But there've been three games of Shepard vs the Reapers. Fans will expect Shepard to be present for the fourth.

And note I said "a" protagonist, not "the" protagonist.

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

How do I take a screenshot in ME2 and then put it up here?

Or, before I do that, would people actually be interested in learning where some of the odd pictures that were in London appeared previously?


What odd pictures?


The paintings seen throughout London, you can also see the majority of them at Donovan Hock's mansion during Kasumi's loyalty quest in ME2. They're also in one more place, can't remember where.


Well I know there is a painting in the apartment in the London mission, and there is a painting in Kasumi's apartment in her slide in the end. Personally I thought the reference was to the weird similarities in London.

Link - http://social.biowar...32/639#12501602

I actually wrote the WNT as an explaination to the similarities. 

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 20 juillet 2012 - 04:18 .


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Lokanaiya

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

How do I take a screenshot in ME2 and then put it up here?

Or, before I do that, would people actually be interested in learning where some of the odd pictures that were in London appeared previously?


What odd pictures?


The paintings seen throughout London, you can also see the majority of them at Donovan Hock's mansion during Kasumi's loyalty quest in ME2. They're also in one more place, can't remember where.


Oh, I didn't know that that had been noticed before.  Nevermind then. :P

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Lokanaiya wrote...

How do I take a screenshot in ME2 and then put it up here?

Or, before I do that, would people actually be interested in learning where some of the odd pictures that were in London appeared previously?

You can modify the ini but it'll be a finicky bastard. You can then either get FRAPs, or you can use Steam's in-game overlay (if you don't have the Steam version you can still set the program to launch through Steam and it should work fine).

And yes, I would very much like to see them Loka.

Modifié par Simon_Says, 20 juillet 2012 - 04:19 .


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Lokanaiya

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TJBartlemus wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

How do I take a screenshot in ME2 and then put it up here?

Or, before I do that, would people actually be interested in learning where some of the odd pictures that were in London appeared previously?


What odd pictures?


The paintings seen throughout London, you can also see the majority of them at Donovan Hock's mansion during Kasumi's loyalty quest in ME2. They're also in one more place, can't remember where.


Well I know there is a painting in the apartment in the London mission, and there is a painting in Kasumi's apartment in her slide in the end. Personally I thought the reference was to the wierd similarities in London.

Link - 


There are two paintings at Hock's party that also appear in London.

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No you quoted me before I edited my post!!!

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EpyonX3 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...
Stated by the developers that the slides look out hundreds of years after the fact.

Didn't know that. I stand corrected.

I watched the comic con panel today. They said something about trying to envision a city on Tuchanka in a few hundred years. So building a city takes a few hundred years because the city is shown being built in that slide. lol


I got an idea of how long it all too. The Citadel is a big place with a lot of unkowns. To rebuild it back to normal would take decades if not more. Earth alone would take years to rebuild since every major city and more was attacked. Resources already start low since the reapers took them all out and the relays being damged doesn't help either.

Even in ancient times building a city didn't take hundreds of years.


Of course not. Buildings were made of clay and wood. Cities in the future would require much more complexity and supplies wouldn't they?


Not to be offensive Epyon, but, are you being intentionally dense?

Clay, wood and stone buildings would be MAGNITUDES harder than what we see in ME3, since ancient man lacked tools, standardization, and basically tons of other things and tools we DO have, like omnitools, flash fabricators, ect. It took them and the keepers only two years to mostly recover from Sovereign's attack on the Citadel and repair most of the Citadel, here, yes, it could take a decade or two, but I doubt it would take the entire galactic community hundreds of years to get around to fixing up their CAPITOL.

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 20 juillet 2012 - 04:27 .


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TJBartlemus wrote...

No you quoted me before I edited my post!!!


Sowwy. :D

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masster blaster wrote...

Oh and did you all notice, that the place, where you see VI Liara looks like Edin Prime. I don't have anything to support what I am say, but I look around the Mission where you go get Javik, and I saw beacon like structures that we saw at the end of the Refuse/Reject ending.

Edit look at Eden Prime and the Prothean beacons.youtube.com/watch

Edit:Look at Refuse ending. the planet it's on looks like Eden Prime, and that Beacon looks like Prothean made, not Liara made.www.youtube.com/watch


Also I find it funny that the Crucible turns off, when nothing blow up on the Crucible, and it's funny that we see red beam of light across Shepards face, when A Reaper blows up ( which looks to me Hacketts ship) a dreadnought. Me thinks that is Harbinger missing on purpose and letting Shepard die of his/her wounds, and turns off the Conduit.

hence why we see the Crucibles light turn off.

Guys and Glyph is there at the Refusel end, but is playing the message Liara left for the next cycle. So does this mean, that Glyph rewrote Liaras message and is giving the next cycle falls hope, if our theory is correct about Glyph working for the Reapers.

GUYS i dimd down the brightness of the Catalyst when you pick Control, and I could see it smile, if you dime the Computer screen down to 30 or 40 brightness.

www.youtube.com/watch

Okay look around stop right at 39 seconds and dim the screen's brightness, and look at where the lips are at. They are smiling.


Also guys if you all haven't notice hackett never said there was a fall back plain what so ever. And why would Joker listen to the squad members about leaving Shepard. They would have tried to go to were Shepard was at since Joker is looking right out the window. In which case where you can see Shepard is at.


Thoughts anyone?



#50415
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Now, now, Arian. There was no need to call anyone dense.

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Oh yeah. Arian. I was a little disappointed I didn't get a wall of text full of quotes relating to dreams/nightmares/things can't be real. Why Arian? Why!!?!?! :crying:

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 20 juillet 2012 - 04:30 .


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smokingotter1 wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

Spoiler alert, I've never played an ME game ever. Also I'm an otter

Directed by M. Night Shamalanadingdong

You need a proper otter avatar. Just like Master Blaster actually needs to get a Master Blaster avatar.

Also, wait. You serious or just joking?


I tried I do have one. Problem is you can do custom avatars but you have to have Dragon Age, do some silly hack thing and then it'll work. Hey if the moderators are listening can I have this as my avatar please. No I can't prove this is me, I'm an otter, I don't have ID.

Not that I don't like Joker, he's great and all, but if you can...

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I think he meant "Were you joking when you said you never played an ME game"

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 Well, I have to leave. But I fully expect to see a full wall of text or a PM from you when I log on tomarro. ;) Don't worry...no pressure. :P (You don't have to. Just see it as a challenge to your abilities.) 

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Arian Dynas

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Simon_Says wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

a) EA won't let the ME franchise die. ME3 was a success financially, it's going to have sequels or prequels of some sort. It's only a matter of time.

B) Most fans associate Commander Shepard with the ME series. Imagine the confusion and backlash if EA were to release a core Mass Effect game without Shepard as a protagonist.

c) I don't see how they can move forward with Synthesis. Moving forward with Control will be incredibly tricky, and most likely end with betrayal. Moving forward with Destroy is the easiest and has the most potential.

a) Agreed

B) Not necessarily. See Halo: Reach

c) Totally agree

I agree with everything except B. Look at Dragon Age. 3 protagonists in as many games. So long as squadmates show up, perhaps even Shepard himself,  and you have enough continuity between them, you can have another protagonist

And Epyon, there is another option beyond making Destroy canon...

Except DA didn't have three games with different protagonists. In DA2 you had only a single protagonist before, maybe even two. And those first protagonists had already completed their story arcs by the conclusion of Origins and Awakening.

The tale of the Warden vs the Blight only took one game. It was done, finished. There was no need to carry the Warden over to new tales in the setting. But there've been three games of Shepard vs the Reapers. Fans will expect Shepard to be present for the fourth.

And note I said "a" protagonist, not "the" protagonist.


Which is why I say that ME4 will have nothing to do with the Reapers.

I still rather prefer the idea of "New spectre, dealing with political instability and corruption in the galaxy" sort of a Dirty Harry thing. In space. Dealing with the fallout from WWIII.

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TJBartlemus wrote...

Oh yeah. Arian. I was a little disappointed I didn't get a wall of text full of quotes relating to dreams/nightmares/things can't be real. Why Arian? Why!!?!?! :crying:


Eh? Wozzat?:blink:

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TJBartlemus wrote...

 Well, I have to leave. But I fully expect to see a full wall of text or a PM from you when I log on tomarro. ;) Don't worry...no pressure. :P (You don't have to. Just see it as a challenge to your abilities.) 


BUT I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO OR WHY! :o *rips hair*

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Arian Dynas wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Oh yeah. Arian. I was a little disappointed I didn't get a wall of text full of quotes relating to dreams/nightmares/things can't be real. Why Arian? Why!!?!?! :crying:


Eh? Wozzat?:blink:


Apparently I'm not the only one who actually likes your walls of text.

Shocker, I know. ;)

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Oh lots of people like them, plenty just prefer not to take the time to read them. -.-

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Just finished watching Arrival. I can't believe I missed this nugget on my playthough:

Shepard: "If you're working near a Reaper artifact, how have you avoided indoctrination?"

Dr. Kenson: "We've been very careful. We know what we're dealing with. You're not speaking to a child, Shepard..."

Not yet.:wizard:

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Anyone else wonder if there is some deep seeded symbolism in shepards gun in the rbg endings? the camera makes specific note to show shepards actions with his gun in all three endings, dropping it both control and synthesis (his will to fight the reapers is gone, essencially, giving into their will), whereas he grips the gun with both hands and fires in the destroy ending, where, during all scenes after being hit by harbinger, he is only ever seen holding and shooting his gun with his right hand (possibly alluding to a strengthened resolve to destroy the reapers?). If nothing else, it is interesting the amount of emphasis placed is on his gun.