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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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Lakeshow1986

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Promoting 3 Characters = 225 GAW points + Increased GR

More people will see Shepard breathe

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Lakeshow1986 wrote...

Promoting 3 Characters = 225 GAW points + Increased GR

More people will see Shepard breathe


Makes sense to me, especially if they're tying the multiplayer into the singleplayer story.

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paxxton wrote...

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Lex0r11, if you're out there, we need a motivational.

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paxxton wrote...

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SI....LENCE

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byne wrote...

You- You're kidding, right? Cerberus gold is bad enough with all the bloody phantoms. It doesnt need banshees too!


God, I think I hate those things worst of all. An insta-kill unit should not be able to cloak. Awesome dps either at range or in melee, and they can even take a pretty damn good beating considering. Small and fast to boot, unlike every other insta-killer. Must be loads of fun on consoles without having a mouse to aim. Stasis is about their only weakness.

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Seriously? No one wants to reply to my earlier post?

Are we even looking for new evidence anymore?

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Hello, long-time lurker here.

I have not noticed this mentioned yet, so I thought I ought to make light of it. It may have already been mentioned on here, but if it was, sorry about repeating it.

I replayed Arrival yesterday, and I was listening to the audio logs scattered throughout the Project.

“Dr. Kenson: The Project is almost complete. I thought I’d feel a sense of accomplishment but instead… I feel dread. I can’t help but think we are doing something terrible.” Not unlike Shepard feeling a bit apprehensive about destroying the Reapers and the players' initial feelings towards Destroy as well, what with Shepard saying “I don't know...maybe...will there be peace?” as the conversation continues. He is getting made to second guess himself and his goals, exactly what Kenson ended up doing.

“Scientist: I woke up this morning in a cold sweat. The nightmare was back, the one with the enormous starship crawling through the Citadel and all my friends turning to dust. Even now I can see it in my mind. Why won’t this stop?” Almost exactly like Shepard's vision when you run out of time, and also is linked to the nightmares he experiences in 3. There is also another log with a guard mentioning how he knows he is not the only with the "dreams".

“Guard: When it’s silent, when there’s no one else around, I can hear it. Whispers in the back of my mind, I can’t tell what they’re saying. I spoke to Doctor Kenson about it and she seemed to understand. What the hell is going on?” Well, Shepard does hear unintelligible whispers in his dreams and during the TIM confrontation on the Citadel...

Evidence only bolstering the theory that the indoctrination began with Arrival and specifically Object Rho.

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estebanus wrote...

Seriously? No one wants to reply to my earlier post?

Are we even looking for new evidence anymore?

I've already used up the limit on ending playthroughs for today. Sorry.

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Dwailing wrote...

Lakeshow1986 wrote...

Promoting 3 Characters = 225 GAW points + Increased GR

More people will see Shepard breathe


Makes sense to me, especially if they're tying the multiplayer into the singleplayer story.


I wanna get to the point where I have enough character promotions that I literally start every new game with 5000 EMS if I'm at 100% readiness.

According to math, I need to promote 66.6 (repeating of course) characters. I bet I could do that.

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estebanus wrote...

Seriously? No one wants to reply to my earlier post?

Are we even looking for new evidence anymore?

I noticed the shadow does move about alot but from a youtube video I can't say weither it point to a certian choice sorry.:(

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byne wrote...

You- You're kidding, right? Cerberus gold is bad enough with all the bloody phantoms. It doesnt need banshees too!


God, I think I hate those things worst of all. An insta-kill unit should not be able to cloak. Awesome dps either at range or in melee, and they can even take a pretty damn good beating considering. Small and fast to boot, unlike every other insta-killer. Must be loads of fun on consoles without having a mouse to aim. Stasis is about their only weakness.


Yeah, I play on console and phantoms terrify me.

Except on my vanguard, oddly enough.

Charging into melee range and then using nova to drop my shields is a surprisingly effective tactic against phantoms, on bronze and silver at least. Have never tried bringing my vanguard into gold though.

Also, on a somewhat related note: the game should automatically give host to whoever is playing a vanguard. Not being host screws vanguards way harder than any other class.

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blooregard wrote...

I just beat ME3 for the second time and after punching my wall for about 15 minutes I decided I'd throw this into the thread because it seems to fit.

The catalyst to an extent is telling the truth. I'll post some of his lines and then what I think of them


My solution won't work any more: Simple indoctrination will not be enough to sway Shepard

You are the first organic to make it this far: You are the first organic to resist this much

You have hope more then you know: You can break free if you're strong enough


Those are the quotes that stood out most. Thoughts.


I had never thought of the dialogue like that. I like it!

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byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

You- You're kidding, right? Cerberus gold is bad enough with all the bloody phantoms. It doesnt need banshees too!


God, I think I hate those things worst of all. An insta-kill unit should not be able to cloak. Awesome dps either at range or in melee, and they can even take a pretty damn good beating considering. Small and fast to boot, unlike every other insta-killer. Must be loads of fun on consoles without having a mouse to aim. Stasis is about their only weakness.


Yeah, I play on console and phantoms terrify me.

Except on my vanguard, oddly enough.

Charging into melee range and then using nova to drop my shields is a surprisingly effective tactic against phantoms, on bronze and silver at least. Have never tried bringing my vanguard into gold though.

Also, on a somewhat related note: the game should automatically give host to whoever is playing a vanguard. Not being host screws vanguards way harder than any other class.



I use the asari adept (not the justicar), and the stasis bubble+throw works wonders on anything thats not large like the altas and banshees.

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 23 mai 2012 - 06:25 .


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byne wrote...

Yeah, I play on console and phantoms terrify me.

Except on my vanguard, oddly enough.

Charging into melee range and then using nova to drop my shields is a surprisingly effective tactic against phantoms, on bronze and silver at least. Have never tried bringing my vanguard into gold though.

Also, on a somewhat related note: the game should automatically give host to whoever is playing a vanguard. Not being host screws vanguards way harder than any other class.


Only vanguard I can stand to play is krogan.  And I mostly do that solo.  As for not being host screwing people, have the scorpion?  It's tons of fun if you're host.  If you're not, it's as useful as a condom to a krogan.

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Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

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Lex0r11, if you're out there, we need a motivational.

Lex0r is abit tied up at the moment *giggle*

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llbountyhunter wrote...

I use the asari adept (not the justicar), and the stasis bubble+throw works wonders on anything thats not large like the altas and banshees.


It's armor, not size.  If it has an armor bar, it's utterly immune to stasis.  So won't work on geth pyros either even though they're no bigger than other geth it will work on.

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estebanus wrote...

Seriously? No one wants to reply to my earlier post?

Are we even looking for new evidence anymore?


I just saw your post, I will be doing that later tonight when I have more spare time than I do now.

p.s. I'm still looking for new stuff as well, but all my questions in the last couple of days have gone almost completely unanswered. I understand your frustration. :crying:

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Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

Yeah, I play on console and phantoms terrify me.

Except on my vanguard, oddly enough.

Charging into melee range and then using nova to drop my shields is a surprisingly effective tactic against phantoms, on bronze and silver at least. Have never tried bringing my vanguard into gold though.

Also, on a somewhat related note: the game should automatically give host to whoever is playing a vanguard. Not being host screws vanguards way harder than any other class.


Only vanguard I can stand to play is krogan.  And I mostly do that solo.  As for not being host screwing people, have the scorpion?  It's tons of fun if you're host.  If you're not, it's as useful as a condom to a krogan.


I cant stand the krogan vanguard. The cooldown on their charge is far too long for my liking.

I much prefer to be a ball of blue energy traveling around the map exploding everything. 'Tis why I only play human vanguards. They have Nova, which is awesome.

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Uhhh... You guys know that there's a whole forum dedicated to multiplayer discussion, right? Why don't you talk about MP there?

I would really hate to see this thread get locked again... :(

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Rifneno wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

I use the asari adept (not the justicar), and the stasis bubble+throw works wonders on anything thats not large like the altas and banshees.


It's armor, not size.  If it has an armor bar, it's utterly immune to stasis.  So won't work on geth pyros either even though they're no bigger than other geth it will work on.


ah, so the phantoms, and others have bariors/shields right?  wasnt sure.

I also like how the buuble makes the cerebus troops, drop there shields, makes things alot simpler.

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Look what I've found.

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estebanus wrote...

Uhhh... You guys know that there's a whole forum dedicated to multiplayer discussion, right? Why don't you talk about MP there?

I would really hate to see this thread get locked again... :(


Multiplayer discussion never got the old thread locked.

Anyways, we have that theory that multiplayer is somewhat related to IT, remember?

Any discussion of multiplayer is therefore technically sort of on topic.

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I'll give it another look at the weekend and that means I'll have to reload the whole thing again. God why can't you quick save during the final sequence? Seriously, my Shep is stuck shooting at the tube and the Catalyst just rage quits unlike in Control.

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byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

Yeah, I play on console and phantoms terrify me.

Except on my vanguard, oddly enough.

Charging into melee range and then using nova to drop my shields is a surprisingly effective tactic against phantoms, on bronze and silver at least. Have never tried bringing my vanguard into gold though.

Also, on a somewhat related note: the game should automatically give host to whoever is playing a vanguard. Not being host screws vanguards way harder than any other class.


Only vanguard I can stand to play is krogan.  And I mostly do that solo.  As for not being host screwing people, have the scorpion?  It's tons of fun if you're host.  If you're not, it's as useful as a condom to a krogan.


I cant stand the krogan vanguard. The cooldown on their charge is far too long for my liking.

I much prefer to be a ball of blue energy traveling around the map exploding everything. 'Tis why I only play human vanguards. They have Nova, which is awesome.


have you tried the asari vangard? their melee is similar to nova.  

im not to fond of vangaurds myself though...