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[smokingotter1]

Dwailing wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Okay. So I'll start by saying I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything here; this is just my interpretation.

So I felt like I'd compile a list of evidence (to me at least) from the new Earth DLC and its trailer. You could boil it down to reused assets if you want but "nothing you say will ever convince me otherwise". Here it goes.

Let's start with the DLC intself, not the trailer"

Grasping at straws: When I looked at the map order and realized that they are not in alphabetical order I was curious to know why there were in the order they are in (Rio, Vancouver, London). Then I realized what it spells when I used the first letter of each in order: RVL = Reveal.

Not grasping at straws: Voices. So I am fairly sure the Shadow infiltrator is voiced by engineer Daniels. You can really tell with certain lines. Weird right?

Next, the new VI drone in the escort mission is, as far as I can tell, voiced by engineer Adams in a pitched up Salarian voice. Remeber he voiced Padok Wiks in a higher voice. I can't tell who voices the Destroyer or Paladin but I don't recognize them. If it was engineer Donnelly I think that would really be interesting. Why? IMO this points to post ending DLC involving the GX12-Chekhov's-gun. It's a big "if" but I don't care.

Or the release date- 3/6/12. 3 is a double of six which is a double of twelve

Shepards gun at the end is an M6 Carnifex but turns into an M3 predator if you choose destroy, doubles imply illusion.

Speaking of batman god I hope I don't sound like this.

But they were RIGHT!  Also, that's BRILLIANT!  It may be grasping at emergency induction ports, but I don't CARE!  It FITS!

What can I say, I thought the release date might have some significance.  It just seemed like they had made the date so... specific, you could say, that I thought it must mean something.  Also, I bet if BW HAD gotten an extra 6 months rather than 3 months that the release date would have been 6/3/12.

Speaking of doubling, while I'm at this bugs the crap out of me, does anyone see the problem with this picture:


Shepard gets "control" of the reapers by grabing on to the control panels. My concern: why are there four handles?

1. First Shepard can't take full control of the reaper no matter how hard he tries. He does not have four hands. This hints that taking full control of the reapers is impossible.
2. Second again we see doubling implying control is an illusion.
3. The positioning of the higher handles that Shepard is not grabing might imply subordination to the higher ups?

[masster blaster]

I am going to play some MP and it's funny that only in the Earth MP they have dead body's that look like the dead body at the Conduit run. On Vancouver.

[RavenEyry]

They've made it clear several times that at least some form of IT was an intended reaction. This does not mean they plan to release a 'real ending' though, so don't read too much into messages like that.

[masster blaster]

smokingotter1 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Okay. So I'll start by saying I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything here; this is just my interpretation.

So I felt like I'd compile a list of evidence (to me at least) from the new Earth DLC and its trailer. You could boil it down to reused assets if you want but "nothing you say will ever convince me otherwise". Here it goes.

Let's start with the DLC intself, not the trailer"

Grasping at straws: When I looked at the map order and realized that they are not in alphabetical order I was curious to know why there were in the order they are in (Rio, Vancouver, London). Then I realized what it spells when I used the first letter of each in order: RVL = Reveal.

Not grasping at straws: Voices. So I am fairly sure the Shadow infiltrator is voiced by engineer Daniels. You can really tell with certain lines. Weird right?

Next, the new VI drone in the escort mission is, as far as I can tell, voiced by engineer Adams in a pitched up Salarian voice. Remeber he voiced Padok Wiks in a higher voice. I can't tell who voices the Destroyer or Paladin but I don't recognize them. If it was engineer Donnelly I think that would really be interesting. Why? IMO this points to post ending DLC involving the GX12-Chekhov's-gun. It's a big "if" but I don't care.

Or the release date- 3/6/12. 3 is a double of six which is a double of twelve

Shepards gun at the end is an M6 Carnifex but turns into an M3 predator if you choose destroy, doubles imply illusion.

Speaking of batman god I hope I don't sound like this.

But they were RIGHT!  Also, that's BRILLIANT!  It may be grasping at emergency induction ports, but I don't CARE!  It FITS!

What can I say, I thought the release date might have some significance.  It just seemed like they had made the date so... specific, you could say, that I thought it must mean something.  Also, I bet if BW HAD gotten an extra 6 months rather than 3 months that the release date would have been 6/3/12.

Speaking of doubling, while I'm at this bugs the crap out of me, does anyone see the problem with this picture:


Shepard gets "control" of the reapers by grabing on to the control panels. My concern: why are there four handles?

1. First Shepard can't take full control of the reaper no matter how hard he tries. He does not have four hands. This hints that taking full control of the reapers is impossible.
2. Second again we see doubling implying control is an illusion.
3. The positioning of the higher handles that Shepard is not grabing might imply subordination to the higher ups?

????????????????


OMG THERE ARE FOUR HANDLES! I LOOK AT THE EXSTENDED CUT CONTROL ENDING ON IGN AND I FOUND THIS.


www.youtube.com/watch


look at 1:23

Modifié par masster blaster, 20 juillet 2012 - 06:02 .

[TSA_383]

smokingotter1 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Okay. So I'll start by saying I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything here; this is just my interpretation.

So I felt like I'd compile a list of evidence (to me at least) from the new Earth DLC and its trailer. You could boil it down to reused assets if you want but "nothing you say will ever convince me otherwise". Here it goes.

Let's start with the DLC intself, not the trailer"

Grasping at straws: When I looked at the map order and realized that they are not in alphabetical order I was curious to know why there were in the order they are in (Rio, Vancouver, London). Then I realized what it spells when I used the first letter of each in order: RVL = Reveal.

Not grasping at straws: Voices. So I am fairly sure the Shadow infiltrator is voiced by engineer Daniels. You can really tell with certain lines. Weird right?

Next, the new VI drone in the escort mission is, as far as I can tell, voiced by engineer Adams in a pitched up Salarian voice. Remeber he voiced Padok Wiks in a higher voice. I can't tell who voices the Destroyer or Paladin but I don't recognize them. If it was engineer Donnelly I think that would really be interesting. Why? IMO this points to post ending DLC involving the GX12-Chekhov's-gun. It's a big "if" but I don't care.

Or the release date- 3/6/12. 3 is a double of six which is a double of twelve

Shepards gun at the end is an M6 Carnifex but turns into an M3 predator if you choose destroy, doubles imply illusion.

Speaking of batman god I hope I don't sound like this.

But they were RIGHT!  Also, that's BRILLIANT!  It may be grasping at emergency induction ports, but I don't CARE!  It FITS!

What can I say, I thought the release date might have some significance.  It just seemed like they had made the date so... specific, you could say, that I thought it must mean something.  Also, I bet if BW HAD gotten an extra 6 months rather than 3 months that the release date would have been 6/3/12.

Speaking of doubling, while I'm at this bugs the crap out of me, does anyone see the problem with this picture:


Shepard gets "control" of the reapers by grabing on to the control panels. My concern: why are there four handles?

1. First Shepard can't take full control of the reaper no matter how hard he tries. He does not have four hands. This hints that taking full control of the reapers is impossible.
2. Second again we see doubling implying control is an illusion.
3. The positioning of the higher handles that Shepard is not grabing might imply subordination to the higher ups?

But seriously, it's nice to have Chris Priestly's support

zigamortis wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

zigamortis wrote...

Wait when did they say that leviathan will change the endings a bit? Can you show me a link or quote?

They haven't said anything but the framework included in EC has dialogue with the catalyst about leviathan.

This.
Unfortunately
due to the way the scripts work we only have the lines that exist in
scenes that already exist within the game. This appears to be onboard
the normandy and during the choice sequence.

Can you
show me a link for the dialog with the godkid about leviathan? i must
have missed it the last few times i read through it.

It's in part 5 of my post on page 1977

Do Ctrl+F and search "Harbinger"

[MaximizedAction]

smokingotter1 wrote...
Speaking of doubling, while I'm at this bugs the crap out of me, does anyone see the problem with this picture:


Shepard gets "control" of the reapers by grabing on to the control panels. My concern: why are there four handles?

1. First Shepard can't take full control of the reaper no matter how hard he tries. He does not have four hands. This hints that taking full control of the reapers is impossible.
2. Second again we see doubling implying control is an illusion.
3. The positioning of the higher handles that Shepard is not grabing might imply subordination to the higher ups?

THIS is one of the most awesome interpretation I've read in a while! Well done, sir! Especially number 1 blew my mind.

[paxxton]

smokingotter1 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Okay. So I'll start by saying I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything here; this is just my interpretation.

So I felt like I'd compile a list of evidence (to me at least) from the new Earth DLC and its trailer. You could boil it down to reused assets if you want but "nothing you say will ever convince me otherwise". Here it goes.

Let's start with the DLC intself, not the trailer"

Grasping at straws: When I looked at the map order and realized that they are not in alphabetical order I was curious to know why there were in the order they are in (Rio, Vancouver, London). Then I realized what it spells when I used the first letter of each in order: RVL = Reveal.

Not grasping at straws: Voices. So I am fairly sure the Shadow infiltrator is voiced by engineer Daniels. You can really tell with certain lines. Weird right?

Next, the new VI drone in the escort mission is, as far as I can tell, voiced by engineer Adams in a pitched up Salarian voice. Remeber he voiced Padok Wiks in a higher voice. I can't tell who voices the Destroyer or Paladin but I don't recognize them. If it was engineer Donnelly I think that would really be interesting. Why? IMO this points to post ending DLC involving the GX12-Chekhov's-gun. It's a big "if" but I don't care.

Or the release date- 3/6/12. 3 is a double of six which is a double of twelve

Shepards gun at the end is an M6 Carnifex but turns into an M3 predator if you choose destroy, doubles imply illusion.

Speaking of batman god I hope I don't sound like this.

But they were RIGHT!  Also, that's BRILLIANT!  It may be grasping at emergency induction ports, but I don't CARE!  It FITS!

What can I say, I thought the release date might have some significance.  It just seemed like they had made the date so... specific, you could say, that I thought it must mean something.  Also, I bet if BW HAD gotten an extra 6 months rather than 3 months that the release date would have been 6/3/12.

Speaking of doubling, while I'm at this bugs the crap out of me, does anyone see the problem with this picture:


Shepard gets "control" of the reapers by grabing on to the control panels. My concern: why are there four handles?

1. First Shepard can't take full control of the reaper no matter how hard he tries. He does not have four hands. This hints that taking full control of the reapers is impossible.
2. Second again we see doubling implying control is an illusion.
3. The positioning of the higher handles that Shepard is not grabing might imply subordination to the higher ups?

1. Shepard has 4 limbs so he could grab all 4 handles if he  wanted. Point dismissed.
2. The asset is doubled by rotation. Point dismissed.
3. Interesting figurative meaning. But point dismissed anyway.

OK, just saying/kidding. Don't take it too personally. Btw, what's wrong with that pic? Hmm, maybe don't put your fingers into electric outlets?

Modifié par paxxton, 20 juillet 2012 - 06:02 .

[MaximizedAction]

paxxton wrote...

1. Shepard has 4 limbs so he could grab all 4 handles if he  wanted. Point dismissed.
2. The asset is doubled by rotation. Point dismissed.
3. Interesting figurative meaning. But point dismissed anyway.

OK, just saying/kidding. Don't take it too personally. Btw, what's wrong with that pic? Hmm, maybe don't put your fingers into electric outlets?

Careful, dude, you're using the enemies' tactics!

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 20 juillet 2012 - 06:03 .

[smokingotter1]

Also I mentioned this before but with synthesis is you listen after Shepard jumps into the synthesis beam even though Shepard is still "falling" into the beam you hear a very audible "thud" that sounds like a person dropping to the ground. When I played it on my crappy speakers I thought it might have been the sound of a gun, but when I put on my headphones (klispsh ftw!) it clearly sounds like a person hitting the ground implying that falling is an illusion.

Video @ 0.22

Use good quality headphones and you'll see what I'm talking about:wizard:

Also the high pitched sounds are very similar to the sounds Object Rho makes when Shepard first meets "it"

Video of Object Rho @7:12 put some good quality headphones on and listen to those high pitched sounds, same sounds you get with the control/synthesis

Bioware: hint hint hint!

Modifié par smokingotter1, 20 juillet 2012 - 06:03 .

[paxxton]

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

1. Shepard has 4 limbs so he could grab all 4 handles if he  wanted. Point dismissed.
2. The asset is doubled by rotation. Point dismissed.
3. Interesting figurative meaning. But point dismissed anyway.

OK, just saying/kidding. Don't take it too personally. Btw, what's wrong with that pic? Hmm, maybe don't put your fingers into electric outlets?

Careful, dude, you're using the enemies' tactics!

 I'm just kidding.  Though not without thinking it over.

[smokingotter1]

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

1. Shepard has 4 limbs so he could grab all 4 handles if he  wanted. Point dismissed.
2. The asset is doubled by rotation. Point dismissed.
3. Interesting figurative meaning. But point dismissed anyway.

OK, just saying/kidding. Don't take it too personally. Btw, what's wrong with that pic? Hmm, maybe don't put your fingers into electric outlets?

Careful, dude, you're using the enemies' tactics!

The Starchild might as well said "to control the reapers stick this fork into this toaster"

[paxxton]

smokingotter1 wrote...

Also I mentioned this before but with synthesis is you listen after Shepard jumps into the synthesis beam even though Shepard is still "falling" into the beam you hear a very audible "thud" that sounds like a person dropping to the ground. When I played it on my crappy speakers I thought it might have been the sound of a gun, but when I put on my headphones (klispsh ftw!) it clearly sounds like a person hitting the ground implying that falling is an illusion.

Video @ 0.22

Use good quality headphones and you'll see what I'm talking about:wizard:

Also the high pitched sounds are very similar to the sounds Object Rho makes when Shepard first meets "it"

Video of Object Rho @7:12 put some good quality headphones on and listen to those high pitched sounds, same sounds you get with the control/synthesis

Bioware: hint hint hint!

Also, listen to the sound of a train leaving the station when you grab the Control handles.

Modifié par paxxton, 20 juillet 2012 - 06:08 .

[MaximizedAction]

smokingotter1 wrote...
The Starchild might as well said "to control the reapers stick this fork into this toaster"

lolZ

[Rosewind]

Ahhh would you guys stop reading into Chris's lock-down comment to much he just doing his job.

[TSA_383]

Rosewind wrote...

Ahhh would you guys stop reading into Chris's lock-down comment to much he just doing his job.

Personally I was just glad to see one of the mods hit that thread with magical powers of lockdown and stop the trolling

[RavenEyry]

paxxton wrote...

2. The asset is doubled by rotation. Point dismissed.

The doubling makes sense from a technical standpoint, but it's still another little oddity for the massive pile of little oddities.

[RavenEyry]

Flog61 wrote...

Guys, in the 2000th page list, im listed as 'nonpartisan'. What does this mean?

Don't have strong feelings either way

[paxxton]

Flog61 wrote...

Guys, in the 2000th page list, im listed as 'nonpartisan'. What does this mean?

I think it means your opinion on IT isn't clear.

[GethPrimeMKII]

 If anyone is still on board with compiling all evidence into one google doc I have here a basic outline for the document. Lemme know what you think.

*edit* 

Need to figure out how not to end up with an ugly block of text 

Modifié par GethPrimeMKII, 20 juillet 2012 - 06:21 .

[Rifneno]

Control = Arca Monolith.

[paxxton]

RavenEyry wrote...

paxxton wrote...

2. The asset is doubled by rotation. Point dismissed.

The doubling makes sense from a technical standpoint, but it's still another little oddity for the massive pile of little oddities.

When I think about it, it looks like if those pairs were mirrored. Maybe there is some symbolism in mirroring things and connecting them with electricity.

Modifié par paxxton, 20 juillet 2012 - 06:18 .

[zigamortis]

TSA_383 wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Okay. So I'll start by saying I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything here; this is just my interpretation.

So I felt like I'd compile a list of evidence (to me at least) from the new Earth DLC and its trailer. You could boil it down to reused assets if you want but "nothing you say will ever convince me otherwise". Here it goes.

Let's start with the DLC intself, not the trailer"

Grasping at straws: When I looked at the map order and realized that they are not in alphabetical order I was curious to know why there were in the order they are in (Rio, Vancouver, London). Then I realized what it spells when I used the first letter of each in order: RVL = Reveal.

Not grasping at straws: Voices. So I am fairly sure the Shadow infiltrator is voiced by engineer Daniels. You can really tell with certain lines. Weird right?

Next, the new VI drone in the escort mission is, as far as I can tell, voiced by engineer Adams in a pitched up Salarian voice. Remeber he voiced Padok Wiks in a higher voice. I can't tell who voices the Destroyer or Paladin but I don't recognize them. If it was engineer Donnelly I think that would really be interesting. Why? IMO this points to post ending DLC involving the GX12-Chekhov's-gun. It's a big "if" but I don't care.

Or the release date- 3/6/12. 3 is a double of six which is a double of twelve

Shepards gun at the end is an M6 Carnifex but turns into an M3 predator if you choose destroy, doubles imply illusion.

Speaking of batman god I hope I don't sound like this.

But they were RIGHT!  Also, that's BRILLIANT!  It may be grasping at emergency induction ports, but I don't CARE!  It FITS!

What can I say, I thought the release date might have some significance.  It just seemed like they had made the date so... specific, you could say, that I thought it must mean something.  Also, I bet if BW HAD gotten an extra 6 months rather than 3 months that the release date would have been 6/3/12.

Speaking of doubling, while I'm at this bugs the crap out of me, does anyone see the problem with this picture:


Shepard gets "control" of the reapers by grabing on to the control panels. My concern: why are there four handles?

1. First Shepard can't take full control of the reaper no matter how hard he tries. He does not have four hands. This hints that taking full control of the reapers is impossible.
2. Second again we see doubling implying control is an illusion.
3. The positioning of the higher handles that Shepard is not grabing might imply subordination to the higher ups?

But seriously, it's nice to have Chris Priestly's support

zigamortis wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

zigamortis wrote...

Wait when did they say that leviathan will change the endings a bit? Can you show me a link or quote?

They haven't said anything but the framework included in EC has dialogue with the catalyst about leviathan.

This.
Unfortunately
due to the way the scripts work we only have the lines that exist in
scenes that already exist within the game. This appears to be onboard
the normandy and during the choice sequence.

Can you
show me a link for the dialog with the godkid about leviathan? i must
have missed it the last few times i read through it.

It's in part 5 of my post on page 1977

Do Ctrl+F and search "Harbinger"

Im not seeing anything....

[TSA_383]

zigamortis wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...
*snip*

Im not seeing anything....

Well ****!

I managed to miss a few important lines whilst copying