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[v0rt3x22]

Well there you have it - not sure this has been discussed already - but a few anti-IT threads got locked down by Priestly with the following comment:

No. The IT thread remains here as it is a valid possibility for the end of the game.

To me that's as close of a pro-IT comment we'll get from BioWare - and (if you feel optimistic) - a huge hint.

Modifié par v0rt3x22, 20 juillet 2012 - 09:49 .

[paxxton]

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

"Organics must always destroy or control synthetics" Silly ME1 AI, that's not how it works.

Can't you control a toaster? Can't you throw it away when it's broken?

Don't you merge with it when you stick your hand in it and get an electric shock?

I only stick toasts in a toaster. Nothing else's compatible.

[MetioricTest]

The other big thing about IT that makes me not like it is this:

Let's say it's true and perfect and provable. IT is canon and it happened. That means the end of the game is Shepard is half-dead under 2 tons of Rubble with Reapers everywhere literally on the verge of wiping out all life.

But then Stargazer says that doesn't happen and you win.

What kind of ending is that? O_o It's not an ending and it's not even a cliffhanger. It's just...Nothing.

That's even worse than the Catalyst.

[LtBehemoth]

LtBehemoth wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

LtBehemoth wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

masster blaster wrote...
Wait he is missing. How never look the ending memoril scene, but why is he not there. Hell Sheaprd even thinks about Jenkins in ME3. From Ashes Shepard says " I lost a good man name Jenkins here."

That is odd. I don't see why they'd need to remodel the wall for that scene, so it should still be there by default.

Does that happen in all endings or just Control and Synthesis? If it's just in Control and Synthesis it might be symbolic of how the sacrifices and deaths of others are already becoming less important to Shepard (If it was Legion or Mordin who were missing it would stand out a lot more and give something away.) If it's missing in all of them.... No idea.

He's missing in every ending. This screenshot taken from destroy.

Can you take a screen shot of the Memorial wall before Sheaprd goes to Earth. Also 17 out of 20 crew Members form the SR1 Normandy are up there, but not the three others.

Well, i'm plaing on xbox, so thats gonna be a problem.
But i'll try to find pics on the internet.
Or I can take a photo on my phone:P

Best one I found

Modifié par LtBehemoth, 20 juillet 2012 - 09:48 .

[paxxton]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Well there you have it - not sure this has been discussed already - but a few anti-IT threads got locked down by Priestly with the following comment:

No. The IT thread remains here as it is a valid possibility for the end of the game.

Very interesting. I don't remember anyone from BioWare so openly admitting that. Makes me think if BioWare is actually dosing support, ever increasing its scope.

[RavenEyry]

MetioricTest wrote...

The other big thing about IT that makes me not like it is this:

Let's say it's true and perfect and provable. IT is canon and it happened. That means the end of the game is Shepard is half-dead under 2 tons of Rubble with Reapers everywhere literally on the verge of wiping out all life.

But then Stargazer says that doesn't happen and you win.

What kind of ending is that? O_o It's not an ending and it's not even a cliffhanger. It's just...Nothing.

That's even worse than the Catalyst.

As an interpretation you do have to make up your own ending. There is the possibility for future DLC (or less likely fourth game) on the topic.

[Lord Goose]

Jenkins died before Shepard was set in charge of the Normandy. I think it never was on the wall.

[v0rt3x22]

paxxton wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Well there you have it - not sure this has been discussed already - but a few anti-IT threads got locked down by Priestly with the following comment:

No. The IT thread remains here as it is a valid possibility for the end of the game.

Very interesting. I don't remember anyone from BioWare so openly admitting that. Makes me think if BioWare is actually dosing support, ever increasing its scope.

To be honest - if you feel optimistic - then it is a massive hint really and its easy to get worked up about it.
Of course - I think what he actually meant to say was that "all theories are valid" - but I think he might've said a bit more than he maybe wanted to. 

Oooor....I'm just interpreting it more than I should  But I have a good feeling about this one....I'd stay tuned... 

[paxxton]

RavenEyry wrote...

MetioricTest wrote...

The other big thing about IT that makes me not like it is this:

Let's say it's true and perfect and provable. IT is canon and it happened. That means the end of the game is Shepard is half-dead under 2 tons of Rubble with Reapers everywhere literally on the verge of wiping out all life.

But then Stargazer says that doesn't happen and you win.

What kind of ending is that? O_o It's not an ending and it's not even a cliffhanger. It's just...Nothing.

That's even worse than the Catalyst.

As an interpretation you do have to make up your own ending. There is the possibility for future DLC (or less likely fourth game) on the topic.

Shepard and organics winning the war is inevitable because the story has to have a good ending as canon.

Modifié par paxxton, 20 juillet 2012 - 09:57 .

[TSA_383]

MetioricTest wrote...

The other big thing about IT that makes me not like it is this:

Let's say it's true and perfect and provable. IT is canon and it happened. That means the end of the game is Shepard is half-dead under 2 tons of Rubble with Reapers everywhere literally on the verge of wiping out all life.

But then Stargazer says that doesn't happen and you win.

What kind of ending is that? O_o It's not an ending and it's not even a cliffhanger. It's just...Nothing.

That's even worse than the Catalyst.

I know right? EA would never sell us a product in full knowledge that we'd have to buy DLC later in order to get the full experience. That totally goes against their business model and what we've come to expect from them.

[paxxton]

Lord Goose wrote...

Jenkins died before Shepard was set in charge of the Normandy. I think it never was on the wall.

He was.

[comrade gando]

Feel free to post slo poke for me, its nice to see chris priestly wont move this thread. However regardless what he knows or not he's just doing his job. Technically IT is a valid interpretation of the ending (and I hope its true honestly), however he must remain impartial to either side.

IT is just as valid as the literal ending, just as the literal ending is just as valid as shepard waking up and grabbing a beer then smoking a joint. The endings are still vague as can be and sooner or later bioware will have to take a stance, they cant just leave it on an indefinite cliffhanger

[estebanus]

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

"Organics must always destroy or control synthetics" Silly ME1 AI, that's not how it works.

Can't you control a toaster? Can't you throw it away when it's broken?

Don't you merge with it when you stick your hand in it and get an electric shock?

I only stick toasts in a toaster. Nothing else's compatible.

Toast is organic. So if you put toast into a toaster, you essentially "merge" synthetic and organic subjects, creating a new level of existence for the toast...

[TSA_383]

Flog61 wrote...

Uhrmmm....guys? Doesn't this link make....IT much less likely to be true?

http://forum.worldof...Team-(Livechat)

The way priestly and mezzers talk about the ending it seems like...it is meant to be taken literally.

Please don't say it's over D:

I didn't take that away from it at all...
All I really took away from that is HOLY **** THERE'S A SINGLE PLAYER DLC (LEVIATHAN) THAT IS FINISHED! 

[estebanus]

Flog61 wrote...

Uhrmmm....guys? Doesn't this link make....IT much less likely to be true?

http://forum.worldof...Team-(Livechat)

The way priestly and mezzers talk about the ending it seems like...it is meant to be taken literally.

Please don't say it's over D:

That's because if they would start saying "You know, it's actually possible that Shepard is dreaming all of that" would more or less confirm IT.

[TSA_383]

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

"Organics must always destroy or control synthetics" Silly ME1 AI, that's not how it works.

Can't you control a toaster? Can't you throw it away when it's broken?

Don't you merge with it when you stick your hand in it and get an electric shock?

I only stick toasts in a toaster. Nothing else's compatible.

Toast is organic. So if you put toast into a toaster, you essentially "merge" synthetic and organic subjects, creating a new level of existence for the toast...

Everybody knows that to create synthesis toast you jab lengths of solder through it then put it in a microwave.

[RavenEyry]

Flog61 wrote...

Uhrmmm....guys? Doesn't this link make....IT much less likely to be true?

http://forum.worldof...Team-(Livechat)

The way priestly and mezzers talk about the ending it seems like...it is meant to be taken literally.

Please don't say it's over D:

...sorry, it's just everything from that livechat has been discussed, disected, misinterpreted and argued about since before it started. It's getting old.

[KJSync]

"1. It was important to us that our endings were open enough to allow for a range of interpretations.[..]
The team felt that this allowed for closure while still giving various possibilities without a "canon" post-end plot"
Merizan said this

Modifié par Brazukka, 20 juillet 2012 - 10:02 .

[v0rt3x22]

Flog61 wrote...

Uhrmmm....guys? Doesn't this link make....IT much less likely to be true?

http://forum.worldof...Team-(Livechat)

The way priestly and mezzers talk about the ending it seems like...it is meant to be taken literally.

Please don't say it's over D:

Take a look at this thread:

http://social.biowar...x/13242318&lf=8 

Priestly closed it down saying:

No. The IT thread remains here as it is a valid possibility for the end of the game.

Anyone who does not like the IT or thinks it not to be correct is STRONGLY enouraged to stay away from discussion on it. 

To me this is the best pro-IT comment we'll get from BioWare.
I remain hopeful.

I know that what he probably meant to say was: "All theories are valid" - but I think he might've said more with this than he wanted to.

[Arian Dynas]

Meaning each individual has to come to their own interpretation. I see nothing about that that discredits or discounts IT.

[estebanus]

TSA_383 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

"Organics must always destroy or control synthetics" Silly ME1 AI, that's not how it works.

Can't you control a toaster? Can't you throw it away when it's broken?

Don't you merge with it when you stick your hand in it and get an electric shock?

I only stick toasts in a toaster. Nothing else's compatible.

Toast is organic. So if you put toast into a toaster, you essentially "merge" synthetic and organic subjects, creating a new level of existence for the toast...

Everybody knows that to create synthesis toast you jab lengths of solder through it then put it in a microwave.

hahaha:D

[paxxton]

comrade gando wrote...

Feel free to post slo poke for me, its nice to see chris priestly wont move this thread. However regardless what he knows or not he's just doing his job. Technically IT is a valid interpretation of the ending (and I hope its true honestly), however he must remain impartial to either side.

IT is just as valid as the literal ending, just as the literal ending is just as valid as shepard waking up and grabbing a beer then smoking a joint. The endings are still vague as can be and sooner or later bioware will have to take a stance, they cant just leave it on an indefinite cliffhanger

My interpretation is that Shepard wakes up in hell like Alice in her madness.

[Arian Dynas]

MetioricTest wrote...

The other big thing about IT that makes me not like it is this:

Let's say it's true and perfect and provable. IT is canon and it happened. That means the end of the game is Shepard is half-dead under 2 tons of Rubble with Reapers everywhere literally on the verge of wiping out all life.

But then Stargazer says that doesn't happen and you win.

What kind of ending is that? O_o It's not an ending and it's not even a cliffhanger. It's just...Nothing.

That's even worse than the Catalyst.

*cough*

http://social.biowar.../index/12095313 

Go to near the bottom of the page and read.