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Headbutters inc wrote...
Hey guys has anyone checked out the screenshot of the upcoming sp dlc?
http://farm9.staticf...af7feeb2c_h.jpg
Any thoughts or has it already been speculated?
Underwater chat with a Reaper! So cool! Literally.TSA_383 wrote...
Headbutters inc wrote...
Hey guys has anyone checked out the screenshot of the upcoming sp dlc?
http://farm9.staticf...af7feeb2c_h.jpg
Any thoughts or has it already been speculated?
Well, shepard goes underwater and (apparently) meets Leviathan there.
So that could be from the meeting with Leviathan.
Because the "Golden" city was black when the Mages invaded it, implying that it was always black and hadn't been golden at all. Not to mention that they were persuaded by Dumat that if they did they would have "The power of the gods themselves." meaning they didn't have any notion of the Maker at the time. Also since I usually always play Dalish I refuse to believe that the human god is real while the Dalish ones aren't, especially since they were around long before the humans arrived in Thedas.HyperGlass wrote...
I don't want to stray off topic but I honestly wanted to know what evidence there is -aside from the fact he never actully appears- to prove the Maker doesn't exist. After all; the Tevinters invaded the Golden City to usurp the Maker's throne long before the Chantry was founded.Arashi08 wrote...
Technically I would say that assuming the Maker is actually real (which they never prove in game of course) then the closest thing to an "opposite" would be the Old Gods, whom the Maker cast below the Earth (sound familiar?) Still, it doesn't sound like an actual dichotomy like the god/satan thing, as much as one religion demonizing another, since the Old Gods and the Grey Wardens were around long before the Cult of the Maker sprang up (the Grey Wardens may have been around the same time to be fair)
SubAstris wrote...
Turbo_J wrote...
SubAstris wrote...
I'm not trying to be, but that's probably more to do with the fact that you think he is a Reaper manifestation.
People can have their interpretations, I agree wholeheartedly, I'm just saying BW's intention wasn't to make it that way.
Stating facts... how exactly do you know this? Did someone from BW call you up and tell you?
Comic Con 2012 Mass Effect: Past, Present and Future, search on Youtube, last 10 minutes
Modifié par Turbo_J, 21 juillet 2012 - 08:40 .
It's easy to interpret their comments in multiple ways. So the oily shadows represent people Shep's seen die. What's to say everyone undergoing indoctrination doesn't see oily shadows of dead friends?Turbo_J wrote...
You are stating fact that Mikes comments are counter to an Indoctrination perspective when he actually says no such thing.
In my opinion, you are grasping at straws this time... and I don't say that much because I hate the saying.
RavenEyry wrote...
It's easy to interpret their comments in multiple ways. So the oily shadows represent people Shep's seen die. What's to say everyone undergoing indoctrination doesn't see oily shadows of dead friends?Turbo_J wrote...
You are stating fact that Mikes comments are counter to an Indoctrination perspective when he actually says no such thing.
In my opinion, you are grasping at straws this time... and I don't say that much because I hate the saying.
Turbo_J wrote...
RavenEyry wrote...
It's easy to interpret their comments in multiple ways. So the oily shadows represent people Shep's seen die. What's to say everyone undergoing indoctrination doesn't see oily shadows of dead friends?Turbo_J wrote...
You are stating fact that Mikes comments are counter to an Indoctrination perspective when he actually says no such thing.
In my opinion, you are grasping at straws this time... and I don't say that much because I hate the saying.
That was my point. It can be interpreted any way the player chooses. Given I only lost 2.5 people I gave a crap about in my canon playthrough, seeing 30 oily shadows in the third dream still makes me question Mike's comment; that they simply (and 'only' by some peoples interpretations) represent fallen friends/comrades... I see them as oily shadows of indoctrination, and no other explanation fits; again 'in my own opinion'.
shepdog77 wrote...
Hey byne, are you a guy or a girl? Just curious.
byne wrote...
shepdog77 wrote...
Hey byne, are you a guy or a girl? Just curious.
Guy
I resent your statement.shepdog77 wrote...
byne wrote...
shepdog77 wrote...
Hey byne, are you a guy or a girl? Just curious.
Guy
Ok cool, Bros before Hoes!
RavenEyry wrote...
I consider you all to both be my bros and my hoes.
MegumiAzusa wrote...
I resent your statement.shepdog77 wrote...
byne wrote...
shepdog77 wrote...
Hey byne, are you a guy or a girl? Just curious.
Guy
Ok cool, Bros before Hoes!
byne wrote...
shepdog77 wrote...
I ripped my pants.
lol
Modifié par FellishBeast, 21 juillet 2012 - 09:19 .
FellishBeast wrote...
byne wrote...
shepdog77 wrote...
I ripped my pants.
lol
Wrong forum?
byne wrote...
Turbo_J wrote...
RavenEyry wrote...
It's easy to interpret their comments in multiple ways. So the oily shadows represent people Shep's seen die. What's to say everyone undergoing indoctrination doesn't see oily shadows of dead friends?Turbo_J wrote...
You are stating fact that Mikes comments are counter to an Indoctrination perspective when he actually says no such thing.
In my opinion, you are grasping at straws this time... and I don't say that much because I hate the saying.
That was my point. It can be interpreted any way the player chooses. Given I only lost 2.5 people I gave a crap about in my canon playthrough, seeing 30 oily shadows in the third dream still makes me question Mike's comment; that they simply (and 'only' by some peoples interpretations) represent fallen friends/comrades... I see them as oily shadows of indoctrination, and no other explanation fits; again 'in my own opinion'.
Who did you lose? And who was the half?
FellishBeast wrote...
byne wrote...
shepdog77 wrote...
*misquote*
*misquote*
Wrong forum?
Modifié par shepdog77, 21 juillet 2012 - 09:25 .
I did find it odd that they were asking people to divert resources from there own defence to save Earth before it became important. I think Most Writers Are Human was at play a little. I understand taking back Earth would be a major part of the game, but at the begining at least it seemed like Shepard thought Earth was the center of the universe, even if they weren't born there.Turbo_J wrote...
Using shepard's own logic regarding the loss of a planet: "We may have lostThessiaEarth, but we haven't lost theAsarihumans yet."
Turbo_J wrote...
byne wrote...
Turbo_J wrote...
RavenEyry wrote...
It's easy to interpret their comments in multiple ways. So the oily shadows represent people Shep's seen die. What's to say everyone undergoing indoctrination doesn't see oily shadows of dead friends?Turbo_J wrote...
You are stating fact that Mikes comments are counter to an Indoctrination perspective when he actually says no such thing.
In my opinion, you are grasping at straws this time... and I don't say that much because I hate the saying.
That was my point. It can be interpreted any way the player chooses. Given I only lost 2.5 people I gave a crap about in my canon playthrough, seeing 30 oily shadows in the third dream still makes me question Mike's comment; that they simply (and 'only' by some peoples interpretations) represent fallen friends/comrades... I see them as oily shadows of indoctrination, and no other explanation fits; again 'in my own opinion'.
Who did you lose? And who was the half?
Kaiden, Mordin, and Legion... who is not dead, but disseminated into all Geth. He is a part of them all.
Little tangent of bothersome things coming...
My Canon Shep did not like Thane, so his death wouldn't have any impact on her, really. Just like the death of one no-name kid; it couldn't mean anything - not with millions dieing. Not when She just told Anderson; 'we fight for the ones that make it out alive'. Had she really been my avatar at the time, she would have question why a reaper with a primed main gun chose not to fire on the evac zone - and just honk at the kid instead. A kid to represent all of humanity? Ok, maybe. But Earth? Really? For a spacer vagabond? Did BW forget the background of two out of three Shepards here? Amy could give a damn about a cohesive ball of dirt and rock.
One of the very first things I said to myself on my first playthrough was that 'this is not my Shepard'. Too many OOC moments. I'd lost control. That should be a huge red flag for anyone with any understanding of the lore of Mass Effect.
"Home is recognised patterns, knows sapces. Familar thought processes of fellow sapients. It is belonging. Home is wherethe creatorsyou are." Legion - 2185.
Using shepard's own logic regarding the loss of a planet: "We may have lostThessiaEarth, but we haven't lost theAsarihumans yet."
byne wrote...
Turbo_J wrote...
byne wrote...
Turbo_J wrote...
RavenEyry wrote...
It's easy to interpret their comments in multiple ways. So the oily shadows represent people Shep's seen die. What's to say everyone undergoing indoctrination doesn't see oily shadows of dead friends?Turbo_J wrote...
You are stating fact that Mikes comments are counter to an Indoctrination perspective when he actually says no such thing.
In my opinion, you are grasping at straws this time... and I don't say that much because I hate the saying.
That was my point. It can be interpreted any way the player chooses. Given I only lost 2.5 people I gave a crap about in my canon playthrough, seeing 30 oily shadows in the third dream still makes me question Mike's comment; that they simply (and 'only' by some peoples interpretations) represent fallen friends/comrades... I see them as oily shadows of indoctrination, and no other explanation fits; again 'in my own opinion'.
Who did you lose? And who was the half?
Kaiden, Mordin, and Legion... who is not dead, but disseminated into all Geth. He is a part of them all.
Little tangent of bothersome things coming...
My Canon Shep did not like Thane, so his death wouldn't have any impact on her, really. Just like the death of one no-name kid; it couldn't mean anything - not with millions dieing. Not when She just told Anderson; 'we fight for the ones that make it out alive'. Had she really been my avatar at the time, she would have question why a reaper with a primed main gun chose not to fire on the evac zone - and just honk at the kid instead. A kid to represent all of humanity? Ok, maybe. But Earth? Really? For a spacer vagabond? Did BW forget the background of two out of three Shepards here? Amy could give a damn about a cohesive ball of dirt and rock.
One of the very first things I said to myself on my first playthrough was that 'this is not my Shepard'. Too many OOC moments. I'd lost control. That should be a huge red flag for anyone with any understanding of the lore of Mass Effect.
"Home is recognised patterns, knows sapces. Familar thought processes of fellow sapients. It is belonging. Home is wherethe creatorsyou are." Legion - 2185.
Using shepard's own logic regarding the loss of a planet: "We may have lostThessiaEarth, but we haven't lost theAsarihumans yet."
Yeah. I never got why my Spacer shep cared so much about Earth. Earth is just another planet to her. She had to personally make a call that got hundreds of thousands of batarians killed on Aratoht, and likely many more slaves of various species, and she had no dreams about that.
Those were hundreds of thousands of people killed directly by a choice she made, and it didnt give her nightmares.
Quick, tell me what is more likely to give you nightmares? Killing hundreds of thousands, most of whom are innocents, or watching one child die through no fault of your own?
<_< every time I saw that kid.
FellishBeast wrote...
I completely agree with your point here. If the child was not an indoctrination device, then it was a poorly implemented attempt at getting us to feel something. All I felt was
I'm not sure what you're referring to, I've got the shot of TIM and Anderson choosing listed if that's what you refer too.HyperGlass wrote...
Hey Raven could I add to your ending oddties by saying that Shep can somehow see a vision of a choice after asking about it as if he/she has already picked that. e.g. Reapers leave when asking about control. It just don't get that. I can guess it would make it easier for the audience to comprehend but come on it's easy for them to understand already.
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