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[Lokanaiya]

Ah, that makes sense then. I was wondering what was the point of the Reaper heart/brain if your EMS got frozen before Cronos.

[BansheeOwnage]

Simon_Says wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

You are close. Think more broadly. What did Legion have that was so special that it was necessary for him to disseminate his personality to all Geth? Perspective...

What do you think would happen to the Reapers if an indoctrinated Shepard were to be disseminated to all Reapers?

It could be... problematic.

Holy sh*tnuggets I think you may have just cracked what actually happens when Shepard picks synthesis, assming IT.

Control: Indoctrination
Synthesis: Dissemination

Interesting thought.

[masster blaster]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

You are close. Think more broadly. What did Legion have that was so special that it was necessary for him to disseminate his personality to all Geth? Perspective...

What do you think would happen to the Reapers if an indoctrinated Shepard were to be disseminated to all Reapers?

It could be... problematic.

Holy sh*tnuggets I think you may have just cracked what actually happens when Shepard picks synthesis, assming IT.

Control: Indoctrination
Synthesis: Dissemination

Interesting thought.

Hey I am the one who had that idea.

[munnellyladt]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

You are close. Think more broadly. What did Legion have that was so special that it was necessary for him to disseminate his personality to all Geth? Perspective...

What do you think would happen to the Reapers if an indoctrinated Shepard were to be disseminated to all Reapers?

It could be... problematic.

Holy sh*tnuggets I think you may have just cracked what actually happens when Shepard picks synthesis, assming IT.

Control: Indoctrination
Synthesis: Dissemination

Interesting thought.

Thats an interesting thought but a I dont think shep can be disseminated if he is out cold.

[masster blaster]

Turbo_J wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Okay guys after playing Overlord I have come to a conclusion, that Harbinger wants Shepard to fuse with Himself to become the ultimate Reaper.

Think about it Synthesis makes no sense right, and the way you jump in the beam is like Shepard is every genetic material is being fused with harbinger. And you may argue that Control is Shepard becoming a Reaper, but Synthesis is Shepard and Harbinger combing with each other to create the perfect Reaper that is the principle of evolution.

harbinger since ME2 is always talking about humans have the requirements to make more Reapers, but Harbinger sees Humanity AKA Shepard that by fusing everything that Shepard is Harbinger could use that against the other cycle, and this one about using Shepard's methods of getting thing done, and maybe making the Reapers feel emotion so that when the time comes for the next cycle. harbinger can play the innocent act, and indoctrinate another race, so that the Reapers can be the heroes of the next cycle, only to find out the Reapers are monsters from hell.

Edit: i know yes the Synthesis ending is not real, but in real life that happened.

You are close. Think more broadly. What did Legion have that was so special that it was necessary for him to disseminate his personality to all Geth? Perspective...

What do you think would happen to the Reapers if an indoctrinated Shepard were to be disseminated to all Reapers?

It could be... problematic.

See I had the idea, and Turbo added the rest.

Modifié par masster blaster, 22 juillet 2012 - 02:22 .

[Simon_Says]

masster blaster wrote...
Hey I am the one who had that idea.

>_> edited. Sorry.

Modifié par Simon_Says, 22 juillet 2012 - 02:24 .

[BansheeOwnage]

masster blaster wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Okay guys after playing Overlord I have come to a conclusion, that Harbinger wants Shepard to fuse with Himself to become the ultimate Reaper.

Think about it Synthesis makes no sense right, and the way you jump in the beam is like Shepard is every genetic material is being fused with harbinger. And you may argue that Control is Shepard becoming a Reaper, but Synthesis is Shepard and Harbinger combing with each other to create the perfect Reaper that is the principle of evolution.

harbinger since ME2 is always talking about humans have the requirements to make more Reapers, but Harbinger sees Humanity AKA Shepard that by fusing everything that Shepard is Harbinger could use that against the other cycle, and this one about using Shepard's methods of getting thing done, and maybe making the Reapers feel emotion so that when the time comes for the next cycle. harbinger can play the innocent act, and indoctrinate another race, so that the Reapers can be the heroes of the next cycle, only to find out the Reapers are monsters from hell.

Edit: i know yes the Synthesis ending is not real, but in real life that happened.

You are close. Think more broadly. What did Legion have that was so special that it was necessary for him to disseminate his personality to all Geth? Perspective...

What do you think would happen to the Reapers if an indoctrinated Shepard were to be disseminated to all Reapers?

It could be... problematic.

See I had the idea, and Turbo added the rest.

Good job Masster!

[byne]

masster blaster wrote...

See I had the idea, and Turbo added the rest.

Because whats important isnt the idea, but who gets credit for it, right? <_<

[masster blaster]

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

See I had the idea, and Turbo added the rest.

Because whats important isnt the idea, but who gets credit for it, right? <_<

Hey when ever I have something good you forget me, and give credit to the other people that founded it, instead of me. Am I right.

[The Twilight God]

HyperGlass wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...

byne wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

I completely agree with your point here. If the child was not an indoctrination device, then it was a poorly implemented attempt at getting us to feel something. All I felt was <_< every time I saw that kid.

Considering my renegade Shep is a Colonist, she saw way worse happen to children when slavers raided her home planet. After the kind of crap she saw on Mindoir, which, if you'll remember from the Spacer only mission in ME1, was bad enough to mentally scar even a veteran soldier like Zabaleta, the fact that a single kid can affect her so much is a bit odd.

There are oily shadows in those dreams like the Rachni Queen speaks about. I think in the 2nd and 3rd dreams you can make out reaper chatter. It was the reapers getting in Shepard's head. I'm not even sure that boy was real. There is nothing concrete to validate his existence outside of shepard's head. No other person even speaks to him or acknowledges his presence.

Actully there is a picture of him in the memorial section of the refugee section of the Citadale. This pretty much proves he's real.

No, it means they used the same picture.

They wall reuses photos. Thane is on there multiple times. But even if that was that kid it still doesn't count as actual interaction with others. It could still just be in shepard's head. 

[byne]

masster blaster wrote...

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

See I had the idea, and Turbo added the rest.

Because whats important isnt the idea, but who gets credit for it, right? <_<

Hey when ever I have something good you forget me, and give credit to the other people that founded it, instead of me. Am I right.

I dont recall that ever happening, so I'd say no you arent. Granted I dont understand 90% of your posts, so I might just miss it when you say something.

[Simon_Says]

Blaster, simmer down before things get ugly. Your post was a little convoluted so I didn't catch on to what you were talking about until after I quoted Turbo. I meant no disrespect.

Byne, it's important for ideas to be acknowledged properly. I edited my post to reflect that. A good idea is a good idea but it's also good to know who sourced the idea.

[byne]

Why are there still krogan shown in the battle sequences on Earth? I sabotaged the genophage and Wrex withdrew all krogan support...

[munnellyladt]

The Twilight God wrote...

HyperGlass wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...

byne wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

I completely agree with your point here. If the child was not an indoctrination device, then it was a poorly implemented attempt at getting us to feel something. All I felt was <_< every time I saw that kid.

Considering my renegade Shep is a Colonist, she saw way worse happen to children when slavers raided her home planet. After the kind of crap she saw on Mindoir, which, if you'll remember from the Spacer only mission in ME1, was bad enough to mentally scar even a veteran soldier like Zabaleta, the fact that a single kid can affect her so much is a bit odd.

There are oily shadows in those dreams like the Rachni Queen speaks about. I think in the 2nd and 3rd dreams you can make out reaper chatter. It was the reapers getting in Shepard's head. I'm not even sure that boy was real. There is nothing concrete to validate his existence outside of shepard's head. No other person even speaks to him or acknowledges his presence.

Actully there is a picture of him in the memorial section of the refugee section of the Citadale. This pretty much proves he's real.

No, it means they used the same picture.

They wall reuses photos. Thane is on there multiple times. But even if that was that kid it still doesn't count as actual interaction with others. It could still just be in shepard's head. 

I've also seen garrus and liara up there.

[Leonia]

A bit late here (just woke up) but loving Banshee's analysis of the Earth DLC. I was curious if there were more thoughts on the London and Vancouver maps? The Vancouver map is definitely the roof top of a hospital and the London one is deceptively small in size with heaps of inaccessible surrounding areas (and reminds me quite a bit of Garrus' recruitment mission in ME2 with the sniper perch in the middle). Unrelated to the DLC, that image we've seen for a while where Shepard is holding a Mantis and looking up at a sky full of falling/fighting Reapers.. why is he holding that type of rifle there instead of his usual Predator/Avenger?

Modifié par leonia42, 22 juillet 2012 - 02:31 .

[Turbo_J]

munnellyladt wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

You are close. Think more broadly. What did Legion have that was so special that it was necessary for him to disseminate his personality to all Geth? Perspective...

What do you think would happen to the Reapers if an indoctrinated Shepard were to be disseminated to all Reapers?

It could be... problematic.

Holy sh*tnuggets I think you may have just cracked what actually happens when Shepard picks synthesis, assming IT.

Control: Indoctrination
Synthesis: Dissemination

Interesting thought.

Thats an interesting thought but a I dont think shep can be disseminated if he is out cold.

I got tired of beating my head against the wall of trying to explain why mashing Indoctrination Theory together with a literal interpretation doesn't work. It only ever ended with me having a bloody forehead.

Let Blaster have his fun; especially now that I've fueled the fire. Have can have all the credit for it he wants too. I don't believe in that interpretation at all myself, but if people want to go that way... why not. It's much more likely that synthesis is Shep jumping on a spike... or that all choices lead to different levels of indoctrination and it will all come out in the wash when the story picks up post ME3.

It's much easier to start a new story if everyone is in the same place, more or less. The 'level' of indoctrination is just a number, like reputation and paragon/renegade points. It makes divergence manageable - at least compared to literal interpretations of the endings.

[munnellyladt]

byne wrote...

Why are there still krogan shown in the battle sequences on Earth? I sabotaged the genophage and Wrex withdrew all krogan support...

But did he?,I think he told you "before you die,i'm going to call of our support for earth" so i dont think he withdrew the support before you killed him.

[Turbo_J]

byne wrote...

Why are there still krogan shown in the battle sequences on Earth? I sabotaged the genophage and Wrex withdrew all krogan support...

That may not happen. I was going to comment on your post about the news article. It was intentional. It was a cover up to prevent word of Shepard's sabotage getting back to Tuchanka - or to the ear of any Krogan.

[masster blaster]

Just forget it. And i did not mean to take the credit for that post.

Modifié par masster blaster, 22 juillet 2012 - 02:41 .

[Simon_Says]

Legion was disseminated wirelessly. No beam of light involved. The platform was left empty, its mind strewn far and wide.

If the beam device in London functioned like a beacon and not a relay (which I still maintain personally), then I say a personality dissemination of an organic mind to the reaper concensus isn't implausible.

byne wrote...

Why are there still krogan shown in the battle sequences on Earth? I sabotaged the genophage and Wrex withdrew all krogan support...

Wrex revokes clan Urdnot's support, and therefore the support of many other krogan clans who fell in line behind Urdnot. There are other clans and assets that won't follow Wrex's lead.

Modifié par Simon_Says, 22 juillet 2012 - 02:37 .

[nov_pl]

Just finished the game first time, without the DLC.
I've got to admit, that even during the playthrough, when I'm not focusing so much on the details, it came to my mind a few times, that something doesn't add up.
Needles to say, after watching "Indoctrination theory" I totally thing this is true. Gotta check out the extended cut ending. I choose the 'destroy' option, and now I am glad i did.

And I have to say, I find the ending very, very good.

[TSA_383]

Simon_Says wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Okay guys after playing Overlord I have come to a conclusion, that Harbinger wants Shepard to fuse with Himself to become the ultimate Reaper.

Think about it Synthesis makes no sense right, and the way you jump in the beam is like Shepard is every genetic material is being fused with harbinger. And you may argue that Control is Shepard becoming a Reaper, but Synthesis is Shepard and Harbinger combing with each other to create the perfect Reaper that is the principle of evolution.

harbinger since ME2 is always talking about humans have the requirements to make more Reapers, but Harbinger sees Humanity AKA Shepard that by fusing everything that Shepard is Harbinger could use that against the other cycle, and this one about using Shepard's methods of getting thing done, and maybe making the Reapers feel emotion so that when the time comes for the next cycle. harbinger can play the innocent act, and indoctrinate another race, so that the Reapers can be the heroes of the next cycle, only to find out the Reapers are monsters from hell.

Edit: i know yes the Synthesis ending is not real, but in real life that happened.

You are close. Think more broadly. What did Legion have that was so special that it was necessary for him to disseminate his personality to all Geth? Perspective...

What do you think would happen to the Reapers if an indoctrinated Shepard were to be disseminated to all Reapers?

It could be... problematic.

Holy sh*tnuggets I think you guys may have just cracked what actually happens when Shepard picks synthesis, assming IT.

Control: Indoctrination
Synthesis: Dissemination

It's not just two different forms of indoctrination! And no wonder synthesis is only unlocked at higher EMS. If Shepard has done so well, why wouldn't the reapers want to incorporate Shepard's strengths into thier own?

I....thought that was obvious?
Oh well... Yes, yes that makes sense:wizard:

"There is wisdom in harnessing the strengths of your enemies"

[munnellyladt]

Anyway,off to bed almost 4 am over here.

[Gwyphon]

You know how they added the stupid narrative mode to singleplayer where all the choices are made for you (why this was even there I have no idea), but I'm curious what choice that picks for the ending, or does it still leave it open to the player? They've said there's no cannon yet they include a mode where all choices are set, suggesting that there is a cannon...

[masster blaster]

Gwyphon wrote...

You know how they added the stupid narrative mode to singleplayer where all the choices are made for you (why this was even there I have no idea), but I'm curious what choice that picks for the ending, or does it still leave it open to the player? They've said there's no cannon yet they include a mode where all choices are set, suggesting that there is a cannon...

If you seen the Batman movie all I can say is Destroy looks just like the batman movie.


Shepard: "What are they saying?"

Anderson: '"Rise."

Modifié par masster blaster, 22 juillet 2012 - 03:00 .