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[Dendio1]

The beam run scene has some bugs. For example, Liara's breathing mask can come about for a scene or two then go away. Not a major deal in the least, but it explains the vanishing scars.

Modifié par Dendio1, 22 juillet 2012 - 04:56 .

[delldo]

Any one find it odd that the kids picture isn't up on the wall in the reporters room on the Normandy? You would think a kid would have more priority over a bunch of adults... To add to that I see no other children at all on the wall or in the game...

[Alasteral]

To me, the Starchild song by Wintersun was all I really needed. It was sloppy to copy it in the first place, but since it was, IT fits it perfectly. And with the "Serve Us" added Harbinger voice (also in some oily shadowy dreams I think too), Shepard is clearly fighting indoctrination.

Hold The Line.

[Gwyphon]

byne wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...

byne wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...

Could it be assumed that synthesis, and possibly the reapers, gave us the understanding to cure the genophage?

I guess, but considering theres no more war, and no capable krogan leader to keep them in check, I dont see who would decide curing them would be the best idea.

But isn't the point of synthesis is that it gives every race an understanding of the other, and so everyone understands the krogan intimately and sees that they can be helpted towards a constructive and civil future. If not satisfied with that answer...

Space magic

Magic. Got it.

Well personally I think the reason the Krogan aren't trusted is because they are self centered, close minded and blood thirsty. I guess if you believe the synergy space magic thing, it's not a far step towards that. Personally I think it's all bull ****. Mind manipulation or space magic? Which one is more believable?
             ........ Yeah no personally I think it's still in Shepards mind. Then again if it's showing Shepard that everything is ok, yours worked pretty hard to stop the cure of the genophage so I wouldn't see how it's seen as a good thing. Sooooo I think it's just a writing oversight unfortunately...

[comrade gando]

about the kid what really irks me is when shepard finally meets the catalyst in kid form... he doesn't even take notice that he's talking to the kid on earth. doesn't even bat an eye to it. nope... nothing, takes no notice whatsover. he might as well be talking to a giant penguin and not take any note of it whatsoever, just herp derp ok *picks a color*. that's pretty much what happens.

[FreddyCast]

Hey guys, I know I already mentioned this before, but what do you think the Crucible actually does?
Some have said it is a time machine that pulls past armadas into the present outnumbering the reapers and defeating them, others say it's a combination of an EMP bomb and an indoctrination canceller?
Is there any other idea that you think the Crucible does?
And please don't say it's a Reaper Trap.
Just think for a moment and say that it's not a reaper trap, but a superweapon meant to stop the Reapers. How would the Crucible stop them?

[comrade gando]

FreddyCast wrote...

Hey guys, I know I already mentioned this before, but what do you think the Crucible actually does?
Some have said it is a time machine that pulls past armadas into the present outnumbering the reapers and defeating them, others say it's a combination of an EMP bomb and an indoctrination canceller?
Is there any other idea that you think the Crucible does?
And please don't say it's a Reaper Trap.
Just think for a moment and say that it's not a reaper trap, but a superweapon meant to stop the Reapers. How would the Crucible stop them?

idk what the crucible really is. the problem right now is what bioware says it is right now: a giant magic machine with the ability to alter the laws of physics and reality with little to no explanation. It's flat out bad writing, that's really all there is to it, unless there actually is some deeper meaning to it all, because honestly I don't see bioware screwing up the ending this badly. It's SUSPICIOUSLY bad writing.

[byne]

comrade gando wrote...

about the kid what really irks me is when shepard finally meets the catalyst in kid form... he doesn't even take notice that he's talking to the kid on earth. doesn't even bat an eye to it. nope... nothing, takes no notice whatsover. he might as well be talking to a giant penguin and not take any note of it whatsoever, just herp derp ok *picks a color*. that's pretty much what happens.

Yeah, that makes no sense in the literal perspective.

However, when you're dreaming, you tend to just go along with whatever crazy stuff happens, and dont question it...

[byne]

comrade gando wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Hey guys, I know I already mentioned this before, but what do you think the Crucible actually does?
Some have said it is a time machine that pulls past armadas into the present outnumbering the reapers and defeating them, others say it's a combination of an EMP bomb and an indoctrination canceller?
Is there any other idea that you think the Crucible does?
And please don't say it's a Reaper Trap.
Just think for a moment and say that it's not a reaper trap, but a superweapon meant to stop the Reapers. How would the Crucible stop them?

idk what the crucible really is. the problem right now is what bioware says it is right now: a giant magic machine with the ability to alter the laws of physics and reality with little to no explanation. It's flat out bad writing, that's really all there is to it, unless there actually is some deeper meaning to it all, because honestly I don't see bioware screwing up the ending this badly. It's SUSPICIOUSLY bad writing.

BioWare straight up said there wouldnt be a 'Reaper off switch.'

Then they gave us a Reaper off switch.

I mean, that cant even be excused as bad writing. Thats deliberate misinformation. I doubt they'd just straight up lie like that without a purpose.

[KevShep]

byne wrote...

BioWare straight up said there wouldnt be a 'Reaper off switch.'

Then they gave us a Reaper off switch.

I mean, that cant even be excused as bad writing. Thats deliberate misinformation. I doubt they'd just straight up lie like that without a purpose.

This^ was the biggest one for me. The crucible came out of nowhere and at a very convenient time.

[jgibson14352]

FreddyCast wrote...

Hey guys, I know I already mentioned this before, but what do you think the Crucible actually does?
Some have said it is a time machine that pulls past armadas into the present outnumbering the reapers and defeating them, others say it's a combination of an EMP bomb and an indoctrination canceller?
Is there any other idea that you think the Crucible does?
And please don't say it's a Reaper Trap.
Just think for a moment and say that it's not a reaper trap, but a superweapon meant to stop the Reapers. How would the Crucible stop them?

i just want to go on record as saying the time machine thing is absolutely ridiculous. and i say that because i cant think nof a stronger word that wont get censored.
theres not much it could be without the engineers working on it getting some kind of idea. i had a thought a while ago when leviathan was first leaked that maybe with a willing reaper the crucible could broadcast some kind of signal/virus, bt to be honest thats only slightly better than the time travel idea

[FreddyCast]

byne wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Hey guys, I know I already mentioned this before, but what do you think the Crucible actually does?
Some have said it is a time machine that pulls past armadas into the present outnumbering the reapers and defeating them, others say it's a combination of an EMP bomb and an indoctrination canceller?
Is there any other idea that you think the Crucible does?
And please don't say it's a Reaper Trap.
Just think for a moment and say that it's not a reaper trap, but a superweapon meant to stop the Reapers. How would the Crucible stop them?

idk what the crucible really is. the problem right now is what bioware says it is right now: a giant magic machine with the ability to alter the laws of physics and reality with little to no explanation. It's flat out bad writing, that's really all there is to it, unless there actually is some deeper meaning to it all, because honestly I don't see bioware screwing up the ending this badly. It's SUSPICIOUSLY bad writing.

BioWare straight up said there wouldnt be a 'Reaper off switch.'

Then they gave us a Reaper off switch.

I mean, that cant even be excused as bad writing. Thats deliberate misinformation. I doubt they'd just straight up lie like that without a purpose.

I know that the whole idea of the Crucible doesn't really make sense. It was thrown at us at the beginning of the game without any hints to it in the last two games, but its completely part of ME 3 now, there's no changing that.
So, no one is going to give it a shot and speculate as to what the Crucible might do?

[comrade gando]

byne wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Hey guys, I know I already mentioned this before, but what do you think the Crucible actually does?
Some have said it is a time machine that pulls past armadas into the present outnumbering the reapers and defeating them, others say it's a combination of an EMP bomb and an indoctrination canceller?
Is there any other idea that you think the Crucible does?
And please don't say it's a Reaper Trap.
Just think for a moment and say that it's not a reaper trap, but a superweapon meant to stop the Reapers. How would the Crucible stop them?

idk what the crucible really is. the problem right now is what bioware says it is right now: a giant magic machine with the ability to alter the laws of physics and reality with little to no explanation. It's flat out bad writing, that's really all there is to it, unless there actually is some deeper meaning to it all, because honestly I don't see bioware screwing up the ending this badly. It's SUSPICIOUSLY bad writing.

BioWare straight up said there wouldnt be a 'Reaper off switch.'

Then they gave us a Reaper off switch.

I mean, that cant even be excused as bad writing. Thats deliberate misinformation. I doubt they'd just straight up lie like that without a purpose.

not only that, but pretty much every statement they said pre-release was flat out false by the time the game ended. they straight up lied to everyone and claimed artistic integrity. it sucks and they know it. if you want to get an idea of how little they care it sucks, take a look at tali's face. Let that face be the representation for the amount of effort that went in to this game.

[byne]

comrade gando wrote...

not only that, but pretty much every statement they said pre-release was flat out false by the time the game ended. they straight up lied to everyone and claimed artistic integrity. it sucks and they know it. if you want to get an idea of how little they care it sucks, take a look at tali's face. Let that face be the representation for the amount of effort that went in to this game.

Tali's face never bugged me too much.

Plus, with IT, all the stuff that seems to have been lies could end up being true.

[jgibson14352]

comrade gando wrote...

byne wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Hey guys, I know I already mentioned this before, but what do you think the Crucible actually does?
Some have said it is a time machine that pulls past armadas into the present outnumbering the reapers and defeating them, others say it's a combination of an EMP bomb and an indoctrination canceller?
Is there any other idea that you think the Crucible does?
And please don't say it's a Reaper Trap.
Just think for a moment and say that it's not a reaper trap, but a superweapon meant to stop the Reapers. How would the Crucible stop them?

idk what the crucible really is. the problem right now is what bioware says it is right now: a giant magic machine with the ability to alter the laws of physics and reality with little to no explanation. It's flat out bad writing, that's really all there is to it, unless there actually is some deeper meaning to it all, because honestly I don't see bioware screwing up the ending this badly. It's SUSPICIOUSLY bad writing.

BioWare straight up said there wouldnt be a 'Reaper off switch.'

Then they gave us a Reaper off switch.

I mean, that cant even be excused as bad writing. Thats deliberate misinformation. I doubt they'd just straight up lie like that without a purpose.

not only that, but pretty much every statement they said pre-release was flat out false by the time the game ended. they straight up lied to everyone and claimed artistic integrity. it sucks and they know it. if you want to get an idea of how little they care it sucks, take a look at tali's face. Let that face be the representation for the amount of effort that went in to this game.

id argue, but nobody really could.

[Lokanaiya]

FreddyCast wrote...

byne wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Hey guys, I know I already mentioned this before, but what do you think the Crucible actually does?
Some have said it is a time machine that pulls past armadas into the present outnumbering the reapers and defeating them, others say it's a combination of an EMP bomb and an indoctrination canceller?
Is there any other idea that you think the Crucible does?
And please don't say it's a Reaper Trap.
Just think for a moment and say that it's not a reaper trap, but a superweapon meant to stop the Reapers. How would the Crucible stop them?

idk what the crucible really is. the problem right now is what bioware says it is right now: a giant magic machine with the ability to alter the laws of physics and reality with little to no explanation. It's flat out bad writing, that's really all there is to it, unless there actually is some deeper meaning to it all, because honestly I don't see bioware screwing up the ending this badly. It's SUSPICIOUSLY bad writing.

BioWare straight up said there wouldnt be a 'Reaper off switch.'

Then they gave us a Reaper off switch.

I mean, that cant even be excused as bad writing. Thats deliberate misinformation. I doubt they'd just straight up lie like that without a purpose.

I know that the whole idea of the Crucible doesn't really make sense. It was thrown at us at the beginning of the game without any hints to it in the last two games, but its completely part of ME 3 now, there's no changing that.
So, no one is going to give it a shot and speculate as to what the Crucible might do?

I honestly can't think of any plausible way it can be anything other than a trap. It's way too convenient to be real.

[comrade gando]

Alasteral wrote...

To me, the Starchild song by Wintersun was all I really needed. It was sloppy to copy it in the first place, but since it was, IT fits it perfectly. And with the "Serve Us" added Harbinger voice (also in some oily shadowy dreams I think too), Shepard is clearly fighting indoctrination.

Hold The Line.

unfortunately bioware themselves disproved the "serve us" line saying that it was only mechanical noise and not speech, and that the oily shadows represent the dead people in the war or something. basically they're going out of their way to disprove IT, then turning 90 degrees to add more to it. so either they know what they're doing, or they're a bunch of morons just jerking everybody's chains. why oh why couldn't ME3 just be a GOOD GAME.

[Lilliun]

The sheer fact that the reapers, allowed it to be built, that in itself shows there's something insidious about it. Who knows, maybe when you fire the thing up, everyone in the galaxy becomes indoctrinated.

[FreddyCast]

FreddyCast wrote...

byne wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Hey guys, I know I already mentioned this before, but what do you think the Crucible actually does?
Some have said it is a time machine that pulls past armadas into the present outnumbering the reapers and defeating them, others say it's a combination of an EMP bomb and an indoctrination canceller?
Is there any other idea that you think the Crucible does?
And please don't say it's a Reaper Trap.
Just think for a moment and say that it's not a reaper trap, but a superweapon meant to stop the Reapers. How would the Crucible stop them?

idk what the crucible really is. the problem right now is what bioware says it is right now: a giant magic machine with the ability to alter the laws of physics and reality with little to no explanation. It's flat out bad writing, that's really all there is to it, unless there actually is some deeper meaning to it all, because honestly I don't see bioware screwing up the ending this badly. It's SUSPICIOUSLY bad writing.

BioWare straight up said there wouldnt be a 'Reaper off switch.'

Then they gave us a Reaper off switch.

I mean, that cant even be excused as bad writing. Thats deliberate misinformation. I doubt they'd just straight up lie like that without a purpose.

I know that the whole idea of the Crucible doesn't really make sense. It was thrown at us at the beginning of the game without any hints to it in the last two games, but its completely part of ME 3 now, there's no changing that.
So, no one is going to give it a shot and speculate as to what the Crucible might do?

You do realize that even if the Crucible is bad writing, it is central to the game and itcannot be blown off as a Reaper Trap. The whole point about the IT is that we have no ending yet, and thus, we must work with what we got, and what we got is the Crucible. It must play a role in the new ending. So we must speculate as to what the Crucible should do since what Shep experienced in the Citadel is just a dream, and thus, what the Godbrat presented to us about what the Crucible does is not true.

[byne]

Lokanaiya wrote...

I honestly can't think of any plausible way it can be anything other than a trap. It's way too convenient to be real.

My last speculation before I go to bed:

Maybe it sends out some kind of EMP that weakens the Reapers but doesnt kill them.

It could weaken them enough to make them about as strong as any other ship, and then the fleets would have to have a regular space battle with them, the results of which are determined by your EMS.

So you could possibly wake up, having resisted indoctrination, only to lose the war anyways because your fleets werent strong enough to take out the weakened Reapers at low EMS, or to utterly destroy them at high EMS.


Anyhow, time for sleep.

[FreddyCast]

FreddyCast wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

byne wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Hey guys, I know I already mentioned this before, but what do you think the Crucible actually does?
Some have said it is a time machine that pulls past armadas into the present outnumbering the reapers and defeating them, others say it's a combination of an EMP bomb and an indoctrination canceller?
Is there any other idea that you think the Crucible does?
And please don't say it's a Reaper Trap.
Just think for a moment and say that it's not a reaper trap, but a superweapon meant to stop the Reapers. How would the Crucible stop them?

idk what the crucible really is. the problem right now is what bioware says it is right now: a giant magic machine with the ability to alter the laws of physics and reality with little to no explanation. It's flat out bad writing, that's really all there is to it, unless there actually is some deeper meaning to it all, because honestly I don't see bioware screwing up the ending this badly. It's SUSPICIOUSLY bad writing.

BioWare straight up said there wouldnt be a 'Reaper off switch.'

Then they gave us a Reaper off switch.

I mean, that cant even be excused as bad writing. Thats deliberate misinformation. I doubt they'd just straight up lie like that without a purpose.

I know that the whole idea of the Crucible doesn't really make sense. It was thrown at us at the beginning of the game without any hints to it in the last two games, but its completely part of ME 3 now, there's no changing that.
So, no one is going to give it a shot and speculate as to what the Crucible might do?

You do realize that even if the Crucible is bad writing, it is central to the game and it cannot be blown off as a Reaper Trap. The whole point about the IT is that we have no ending yet, and thus, we must work with what we got, and what we got is the Crucible. It must play a role in the new ending. So we must speculate as to what the Crucible should do since what Shep experienced in the Citadel is just a dream, and thus, what the Godbrat presented to us about what the Crucible does is not true.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

FreddyCast wrote...

byne wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Hey guys, I know I already mentioned this before, but what do you think the Crucible actually does?
Some have said it is a time machine that pulls past armadas into the present outnumbering the reapers and defeating them, others say it's a combination of an EMP bomb and an indoctrination canceller?
Is there any other idea that you think the Crucible does?
And please don't say it's a Reaper Trap.
Just think for a moment and say that it's not a reaper trap, but a superweapon meant to stop the Reapers. How would the Crucible stop them?

idk what the crucible really is. the problem right now is what bioware says it is right now: a giant magic machine with the ability to alter the laws of physics and reality with little to no explanation. It's flat out bad writing, that's really all there is to it, unless there actually is some deeper meaning to it all, because honestly I don't see bioware screwing up the ending this badly. It's SUSPICIOUSLY bad writing.

BioWare straight up said there wouldnt be a 'Reaper off switch.'

Then they gave us a Reaper off switch.

I mean, that cant even be excused as bad writing. Thats deliberate misinformation. I doubt they'd just straight up lie like that without a purpose.

I know that the whole idea of the Crucible doesn't really make sense. It was thrown at us at the beginning of the game without any hints to it in the last two games, but its completely part of ME 3 now, there's no changing that.
So, no one is going to give it a shot and speculate as to what the Crucible might do?

I got several Ideas, some my own, some from other people in this and the last thread:

First the ideas if the Crucible truly is a weapon and we have yet to see it in action:

Citadel Accelerator Cannon. Basicly the Crucible turns the Citadel into a massive mass acceleretor cannon using its existing fucntion as a mass relay. Using debris and/or Reapers who get to close as ammunition a weapon of that size could easily even the odds in the battle. Also it tie very well into the Accelerator shot which crippled the Derelict Reaper from ME2.

Shield Disable Pulse: A pusle of energy which overloads the Reapers kinetic barriers leaving them vulnerable to the fleets weapons allowing for a chance at victory.

Now if the Crucible is a Trap:

Mass Indoctrination device. Self explanatory.

Reaper Power Source: Tying into the Reapers using the Citadel for making more Reapers, the Crucible could eaily be the battery so to speak they use to activate a new Reaper fully.

Citadel Realy Power Source: An idea for why no one has discovered the Citadel is a Mass Relay. Essentially the Relay part is without much power a, only able to receive the Reapers from dark space, not send them back, minimizing the risk anyone would figure out it is a Relay. An interesting thing on this is that the Citadel dosent have a visible Eezo core unlike the other Relays and it is this purpose the Crucible would fill. As such having the races of the cycle build the Crucible only easens the Reapers work and the vanguard of each cycle disposes of the Crucible.

There are more ideas which i have forgotten, but this is a few of them.

Still though an important thing to remember is that we cannot win by conventional means so the Crucible has to be turned to our advantage somehow or the battle is lost.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 22 juillet 2012 - 06:27 .

[KevShep]

Lokanaiya wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

byne wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Hey guys, I know I already mentioned this before, but what do you think the Crucible actually does?
Some have said it is a time machine that pulls past armadas into the present outnumbering the reapers and defeating them, others say it's a combination of an EMP bomb and an indoctrination canceller?
Is there any other idea that you think the Crucible does?
And please don't say it's a Reaper Trap.
Just think for a moment and say that it's not a reaper trap, but a superweapon meant to stop the Reapers. How would the Crucible stop them?

idk what the crucible really is. the problem right now is what bioware says it is right now: a giant magic machine with the ability to alter the laws of physics and reality with little to no explanation. It's flat out bad writing, that's really all there is to it, unless there actually is some deeper meaning to it all, because honestly I don't see bioware screwing up the ending this badly. It's SUSPICIOUSLY bad writing.

BioWare straight up said there wouldnt be a 'Reaper off switch.'

Then they gave us a Reaper off switch.

I mean, that cant even be excused as bad writing. Thats deliberate misinformation. I doubt they'd just straight up lie like that without a purpose.

I know that the whole idea of the Crucible doesn't really make sense. It was thrown at us at the beginning of the game without any hints to it in the last two games, but its completely part of ME 3 now, there's no changing that.
So, no one is going to give it a shot and speculate as to what the Crucible might do?

I honestly can't think of any plausible way it can be anything other than a trap. It's way too convenient to be real.

Since the crucible looks like a big microphone, I was thinking that it could be a transmiter that links with the relays and brodcasts an altra sonic sound to every system. Basicly its an indoctrination tool on a "mass effect" scale!

Modifié par KevShep, 22 juillet 2012 - 06:29 .

[comrade gando]

I'd have been happy if the crucible turned out to be just what everyone thought it was: a giant space cannon. no metaphysics, no nonsense, no magic, and no deus ex machina. It's a giant space cannon that can one shot reaper ships and shepard comes under control of it, and harbinger himself tries to stop him. something like that not this insanity that is the current endings that bioware just lovvvesss so much.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

comrade gando wrote...

I'd have been happy if the crucible turned out to be just what everyone thought it was: a giant space cannon. no metaphysics, no nonsense, no magic, and no deus ex machina. It's a giant space cannon that can one shot reaper ships and shepard comes under control of it, and harbinger himself tries to stop him. something like that not this insanity that is the current endings that bioware just lovvvesss so much.

Yeah, I want to eyeball Harbinger with a giant mass accelerator cannon