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[byne]

ean0611 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

byne wrote...

I believe it starts when the transport to the beam crashes. What caused the crash is never revealed, nor is the crash even referenced for a split second once you get out. No 'That was close' or anything. Just a crash, then suddenly everyone is fine and standing outside of the transport.

The dream starting there would also explain the 2D bodies that can be seen before the laz0r.

There are other uses of 2D sprites before this. Could also just be resource issue. They wanted to ensure this section runs without any FPS stutters.

Remember, Xbox isn't the highest horsepower system out there.

Theres no real need for the bodies to be there at all, though. If they're causing FPS problems, just leave them out.

[Rosewind]

byne wrote...

ean0611 wrote...

OOPS, DP. 

Sorry.

I totally read DP as meaning something other than double post. My mind is way too dirty.

*Snip*

HAHAHA So Did I lol you dirty dirty man 

[Chriz Tah Fah]

RavenEyry wrote...

byne wrote...

I believe it starts when the transport to the beam crashes. What caused the crash is never revealed, nor is the crash even referenced for a split second once you get out. No 'That was close' or anything. Just a crash, then suddenly everyone is fine and standing outside of the transport.

The dream starting there would also explain the 2D bodies that can be seen before the laz0r.

Where? I only saw the Ash/Kaiden 2D models after the laser. Were there other 2D models? Show me :happy:

[RavenEyry]

byne wrote...

Theres no real need for the bodies to be there at all, though. If they're causing FPS problems, just leave them out.

That was my thoughts too. They could have just made a pile of rubble, which is what I thought it was before you lot pointed it out.

[comrade gando]

Fingertrip wrote...

Isn't IT clearly debunked considering that they didn't wish to come into ways of how the ending is interpretaded (Or at least so they say), yet show no signs of any type of Indoctrination in the extended cut.

The Indoctrination Theory relies on more things to come from what has been seen, yet they've explicity said that Extended Cut marks the end of Shepards journey, they would be contradicting themselves if they continued to add more to the ending, etc;

I feel Indoctrination Theory is dead can be, there's nothing more to it.

like they haven't contradicted themselves before? the ending has all the signs of something not being right and they just throw all that along with the plot of the series out the window in the last 10 minutes? gooby pls

[RavenEyry]

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

Where? I only saw the Ash/Kaiden 2D models after the laser. Were there other 2D models? Show me :happy:

Using a scope you can see the bodies are there before the laser as well, same place.

EDIT: I'm sure you've linked that clip already Byne.

Modifié par RavenEyry, 22 juillet 2012 - 05:33 .

[Chriz Tah Fah]

RavenEyry wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

Where? I only saw the Ash/Kaiden 2D models after the laser. Were there other 2D models? Show me :happy:

Using a scope you can see the bodies are there before the laser as well, same place.

EDIT: I'm sure you've linked that clip already Byne.

They're in the same place then. Yeah, if this was the first rush to the beam, why are there so many bodies there? Even after the rush, there are more 2D body piles then there were people rushing the beam. Where'd the bodies come from?

[CoolioThane]

Literalists really don't like ITers do they? A lot are pretty quick to claim the IT is false without any evidence, even when you're not even trying to prove IT! Gosh

[RavenEyry]

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

They're in the same place then. Yeah, if this was the first rush to the beam, why are there so many bodies there? Even after the rush, there are more 2D body piles then there were people rushing the beam. Where'd the bodies come from?

Non IT answer would be 'they're being harvested'. IT response would be 'why are they in haphazard piles instead of pods?'

[Chriz Tah Fah]

RavenEyry wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

They're in the same place then. Yeah, if this was the first rush to the beam, why are there so many bodies there? Even after the rush, there are more 2D body piles then there were people rushing the beam. Where'd the bodies come from?

Non IT answer would be 'they're being harvested'. IT response would be 'why are they in haphazard piles instead of pods?'

If those bodies were piled there to be transported up the beam then we would have heard about it. The beam itself is ambiguous because we were barely given any information about it. If it is our mission to get there then we should at least have some information. Somebody must have been keeping an eye on the beam. It's the future there has to be some kind of optics that can help a person keep watch of it. More information about the beam should have been given.

[LtBehemoth]

About "Mystery of gun" thing:
In EC Shepard runs to the conduit with the M-3 Predator. After the Harbinger's beam he picks up M-6 Carnifex.
But wait a second. How could possibly Carnifex be there? From the "Revelation" novel I remember that all Alliance soldiers equiped with Hahne-Kedar guns. In ME3 we can see that all Alliance marines equiped with M-8 Avenger and M-6 Predator (which looks pretty similar to the Hahne-Kedar weapons).




I remember only one guy with equiped by "default" Carnifex.
 

So Anderson dropped Carnifex to unconscious Shepard, then grabbed Predator from dead marine and jumped into the beam to save the galaxy? Kinda stupid, huh<_< 


Also found some interesting lines in EC files from a conversation with Starchild.
'About synthesis'
578. You must choose it. For all of us.
588. No more questions. Your time is at an end.  
So Starchild want synthesis, badly.
He is controlling the reapers (including Harbinger). As far as I remember whole second game Harby promised that he rape destroy Shepard with no regret. Now he asking for our help, in hurry. Seems legit<_<

Modifié par LtBehemoth, 22 juillet 2012 - 06:10 .

[RavenEyry]

LtBehemoth wrote...
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The gun just gets weirder and weirder as people notice more. A minor thing to note is Anderson doesn't have that predator anywhere on his body, TIM just pulls it from nothing with Andersons body covering it up.

[Chriz Tah Fah]

RavenEyry wrote...

LtBehemoth wrote...
-snip-

The gun just gets weirder and weirder as people notice more. A minor thing to note is Anderson doesn't have that predator anywhere on his body, TIM just pulls it from nothing with Andersons body covering it up.

Garrus has a stick up his azz as a backup weapon. It's only natural for every well trained soldier to have a backup plan (if you know what I mean).

[LtBehemoth]

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

LtBehemoth wrote...
-snip-

The gun just gets weirder and weirder as people notice more. A minor thing to note is Anderson doesn't have that predator anywhere on his body, TIM just pulls it from nothing with Andersons body covering it up.

Garrus has a stick up his azz as a backup weapon. It's only natural for every well trained soldier to have a backup plan (if you know what I mean).

Then why he dropped his Carnifex to Shepard and left to himself ****ty Predator? He knew that Shepard alive? Then why he didn't woke him up?
That's all just makes no sense

[N7L4D]

You guys rememeber the coats and keeper helmet thing?
I know it's fly cam but still they could have used generic marine 322

[TSA_383]

CoolioThane wrote...

byne wrote...

ean0611 wrote...

OOPS, DP. 

Sorry.

I totally read DP as meaning something other than double post. My mind is way too dirty.

I did the same thing byne 

Me too.
We're a disturbed bunch.

Also, I have to agree that the whole thing with the transport crash is deeply suspicious. Feels like there's a scene missing...
Unfortunately from what we've seen so far Leviathan doesn't add anything here (unless it's an entirely new scene).

LtBehemoth wrote...

Also found some interesting lines in EC files from a conversation with Starchild.
'About synthesis'
578. You must choose it. For all of us.
588. No more questions. Your time is at an end.  
So Starchild want synthesis, badly.

Indeed.

His lines when you turn down each of the three options are interesting...

He Offers you Destroy, if you turn it down his response is basically "Works for me! Now see these other options...".

Then he offers you Control, if you turn it down his response is "Well you should at least consider it..."

Then he offers you Synthesis, if you turn it down his response is "Why NOT?!?"

Starchild beomes very aggressive when you reject synthesis.

[MaximizedAction]

byne wrote...

ean0611 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

byne wrote...

I believe it starts when the transport to the beam crashes. What caused the crash is never revealed, nor is the crash even referenced for a split second once you get out. No 'That was close' or anything. Just a crash, then suddenly everyone is fine and standing outside of the transport.

The dream starting there would also explain the 2D bodies that can be seen before the laz0r.

There are other uses of 2D sprites before this. Could also just be resource issue. They wanted to ensure this section runs without any FPS stutters.

Remember, Xbox isn't the highest horsepower system out there.

Theres no real need for the bodies to be there at all, though. If they're causing FPS problems, just leave them out.

Maybe this was decided to be implemented in retrospect after they noticed some problem/bug, like the slow-mo when Shep shoots Mordin, which was not planned at all, but they left it in as it worked actually well.

[MaximizedAction]

TSA_383 wrote...

Starchild beomes very aggressive when you reject synthesis.

Oh, the "Your belief is not required" during the destroy explanation is not aggressive enough?

[Eryri]

MaximizedAction wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Starchild beomes very aggressive when you reject synthesis.

Oh, the "Your belief is not required" during the destroy explanation is not aggressive enough?

Another point about the star-beiber's attitude that bothers me is when he talks about the designers of the crucible - "You would not know them, and there is not enough time to explain." 

Why is there no time? Why is he trying to rush Shepard into a decision? The Catalysts supposedly controls the Reapers. He could tell them to withdraw while Shepard makes his / her mind up. The brat conceeds that his solution is flawed and he supposedly wants to find a better solution with Shepard's help. They should have all the time in the world.

He's not very patient for a billions of years old AI who spends most of his time hibernating is he?

Modifié par Eryri, 22 juillet 2012 - 06:58 .

[paxxton]

Ohai!

Modifié par paxxton, 22 juillet 2012 - 07:08 .

[comrade gando]

when it comes right down to it, what ticks me off most about the ending is how it just threw everything it built me up for out the window at the last minute. that last scene with tali when she's getting evac'd is so ****ed up because shep's about to take a robotic reaper **** up the ass and there's nothing he can do about it. I deserve better than that. they deserve better than that.

[paxxton]

Eryri wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Starchild beomes very aggressive when you reject synthesis.

Oh, the "Your belief is not required" during the destroy explanation is not aggressive enough?

Another point about the star-beiber's attitude that bothers me is when he talks about the designers of the crucible - "You would not know them, and there is not enough time to explain." 

Why is there no time? Why is he trying to rush Shepard into a decision? The Catalysts supposedly controls the Reapers. He could tell them to withdraw while Shepard makes his / her mind up. The brat conceeds that his solution is flawed and he supposedly wants to find a better solution with Shepard's help. They should have all the time in the world.

He's not very patient for a billions of years old AI who spends most of his time hibernating is he?

Also this:
Shepard: Explain how my energy can be added to the Crucible.
The Catalyst: There is little time left but blah blah blah.

Modifié par paxxton, 22 juillet 2012 - 07:13 .

[paxxton]

Bear in mind that there is war still going on. If the Catalyst was to make the Reapers cease fire, organics would quickly gain advantage over them.

Modifié par paxxton, 22 juillet 2012 - 07:16 .

[TSA_383]

comrade gando wrote...

when it comes right down to it, what ticks me off most about the ending is how it just threw everything it built me up for out the window at the last minute. that last scene with tali when she's getting evac'd is so ****ed up because shep's about to take a robotic reaper **** up the ass and there's nothing he can do about it. I deserve better than that. they deserve better than that.

And then you break free of indoctrination and emerge blinking from the rubble to kick Harbinger's ass

[masster blaster]

What I like is that Bioware was giving hints in the game, that we are going to have to sacrife more than we bargin for inorder to save everyone, and I just don't mean Shepard dying. But the galaxy races in general. Bioware was trying to say you can't save them all, but you can try to, but in the end you will fall, and we won't tell you if you failed or not.

Also I believe the Breath scene is more than a beacon of hope for Shepard to be with his/her LI again, but finishing the fight once and for all.

And for the one's that say the Reapers should still be alive, even if we make them leave. What's to say they go to other galaxys and start thr cycle all over again.

And that goes with Synthesis, and Control too. What's to say that Shepard will not harm the other galaxys that have organic mateirial to substain the Reapers live. Also why not say that could happen. If the Catalyst say we will create the Synthetics again and war starts all over.

What's to say they start Reaping other galaxys, and since the Reapers are free from the Catalyst in Control and Synthesis. Then what's to say they still want to harvest the races to create more of them.

If the Leviathan can defect, then what's to say that could happen in Synthesis, and Control.

And yes this means what I am saying that the ednings could be real, but if they are, then this could happen.