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[comrade gando]

[quote]paxxton wrote...

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Also this:
Shepard: Explain how my energy can be added to the Crucible.
The Catalyst: There is little time left but blah blah blah.[/quote]

lol, might as well have said "just shut up and pick a color". that's the effect that line had lol

[Eryri]

paxxton wrote...

Eryri wrote...

Another point about the star-beiber's attitude that bothers me is when he talks about the designers of the crucible - "You would not know them, and there is not enough time to explain." 

Why is there no time? Why is he trying to rush Shepard into a decision? The Catalysts supposedly controls the Reapers. He could tell them to withdraw while Shepard makes his / her mind up. The brat conceeds that his solution is flawed and he supposedly wants to find a better solution with Shepard's help. They should have all the time in the world.

He's not very patient for a billions of years old AI who spends most of his time hibernating is he?

Also this:
Shepard: Explain how my energy can be added to the Crucible.
The Catalyst: There is little time left but blah blah blah.

True. The brat's like a second hand car salesman trying to push Shepard into buying a lemon (i.e. Synthesis).

Oh and don't get me started on adding Shepard's "energy" to the Crucible. Energy is a well defined physical concept, - the capacity to do thermodynamic work. It's measured in joules. What is this energy that Shepard is supposed to have that can transform every living thing in an instant? It just sounds like crystal-healing, hippy, mumbo jumbo to me.

[paxxton]

comrade gando wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Also this:
Shepard: Explain how my energy can be added to the Crucible.
The Catalyst: There is little time left but blah blah blah.

lol, might as well have said "just shut up and pick a color". that's the effect that line had lol

Those lines are from the game.

Modifié par paxxton, 22 juillet 2012 - 07:18 .

[RavenEyry]

paxxton wrote...

Also this:
Shepard: Explain how my energy can be added to the Crucible.
The Catalyst: There is little time left but blah blah blah.

"Jumping into the beam will add your energy to the crucible and spread it across the galaxy!"
"How?"
"Erm, well there's the thing, with the,er, y'know what? Theres no time. Just do it."
"Fine, fine. Touchy."

[LtBehemoth]

paxxton wrote...

Eryri wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Starchild beomes very aggressive when you reject synthesis.

Oh, the "Your belief is not required" during the destroy explanation is not aggressive enough?

Another point about the star-beiber's attitude that bothers me is when he talks about the designers of the crucible - "You would not know them, and there is not enough time to explain." 

Why is there no time? Why is he trying to rush Shepard into a decision? The Catalysts supposedly controls the Reapers. He could tell them to withdraw while Shepard makes his / her mind up. The brat conceeds that his solution is flawed and he supposedly wants to find a better solution with Shepard's help. They should have all the time in the world.

He's not very patient for a billions of years old AI who spends most of his time hibernating is he?

Also this:
Shepard: Explain how my energy can be added to the Crucible.
The Catalyst: There is little time left but blah blah blah.

And this:
588. No more questions. Your time is at an end. 

[comrade gando]

paxxton wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Also this:
Shepard: Explain how my energy can be added to the Crucible.
The Catalyst: There is little time left but blah blah blah.

lol, might as well have said "just shut up and pick a color". that's the effect that line had lol

Those lines are from the game.

f'sho. I can't even imagine what the writers are thinking "I gotta explain this somehow... hmmm.. there's not enough time, the player doesn't care anyway. man this is easy!"

either that or "those dang IT'ers are on to us, gotta throw in some nice slideshows and pretty music to throw them off"

[paxxton]

Eryri wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Eryri wrote...

Another point about the star-beiber's attitude that bothers me is when he talks about the designers of the crucible - "You would not know them, and there is not enough time to explain." 

Why is there no time? Why is he trying to rush Shepard into a decision? The Catalysts supposedly controls the Reapers. He could tell them to withdraw while Shepard makes his / her mind up. The brat conceeds that his solution is flawed and he supposedly wants to find a better solution with Shepard's help. They should have all the time in the world.

He's not very patient for a billions of years old AI who spends most of his time hibernating is he?

Also this:
Shepard: Explain how my energy can be added to the Crucible.
The Catalyst: There is little time left but blah blah blah.

True. The brat's like a second hand car salesman trying to push Shepard into buying a lemon (i.e. Synthesis).

Oh and don't get me started on adding Shepard's "energy" to the Crucible. Energy is a well defined physical concept, - the capacity to do thermodynamic work. It's measured in joules. What is this energy that Shepard is supposed to have that can transform every living thing in an instant? It just sounds like crystal-healing, hippy, mumbo jumbo to me.

According to Relativity Theory matter and energy are interchangeable. When Shepard's atoms' nuclei are broken tremendous amounts of energy are released. Something like that.

Modifié par paxxton, 22 juillet 2012 - 07:23 .

[Eryri]

paxxton wrote...

Eryri wrote...

True. The brat's like a second hand car salesman trying to push Shepard into buying a lemon (i.e. Synthesis).

Oh and don't get me started on adding Shepard's "energy" to the Crucible. Energy is a well defined physical concept, - the capacity to do thermodynamic work. It's measured in joules. What is this energy that Shepard is supposed to have that can transform every living thing in an instant? It just sounds like crystal-healing, hippy, mumbo jumbo to me.

According to Relativity Theory matter and energy are interchangeable. When Shepard's atoms' nuclei are broken tremendous amounts of energy is released. Something like that.

Ah, of course! It all makes sense now! 

[Chriz Tah Fah]

 For the whole "theres no time to explain" poo that the kid gives us he could at least have pointed out that "you will bleed out soon, a decision must be made." This would have partly fixed the brat not explaining everything. However, this entire point is voided because Shepard is no longer bleeding after going up the elevator for some reason even though she was bleeding before . However, with the breath scene it would have been too obvious if the brat said "make a decision before you bleed out" and then you live anyway. It's dumb. If anything was lazy/bad writing it was that part.

[paxxton]

Eryri wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Eryri wrote...

True. The brat's like a second hand car salesman trying to push Shepard into buying a lemon (i.e. Synthesis).

Oh and don't get me started on adding Shepard's "energy" to the Crucible. Energy is a well defined physical concept, - the capacity to do thermodynamic work. It's measured in joules. What is this energy that Shepard is supposed to have that can transform every living thing in an instant? It just sounds like crystal-healing, hippy, mumbo jumbo to me.

According to Relativity Theory matter and energy are interchangeable. When Shepard's atoms' nuclei are broken tremendous amounts of energy is released. Something like that.

Ah, of course! It all makes sense now! 

Basically, Shepard becomes the most powerful atomic bomb in the Galaxy's history. Simple.

[N7L4D]

You guys rememeber the coats and keeper helmet thing?
I know it's fly cam but still they could have used generic marine 322


www.youtube.com/watch

[Chriz Tah Fah]

paxxton wrote...

Eryri wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Eryri wrote...

True. The brat's like a second hand car salesman trying to push Shepard into buying a lemon (i.e. Synthesis).

Oh and don't get me started on adding Shepard's "energy" to the Crucible. Energy is a well defined physical concept, - the capacity to do thermodynamic work. It's measured in joules. What is this energy that Shepard is supposed to have that can transform every living thing in an instant? It just sounds like crystal-healing, hippy, mumbo jumbo to me.

According to Relativity Theory matter and energy are interchangeable. When Shepard's atoms' nuclei are broken tremendous amounts of energy is released. Something like that.

Ah, of course! It all makes sense now! 

Basically, Shepard becomes the most powerful atomic bomb in the Galaxy's history. Simple.

Shepard: "May I request a body double?"

Modifié par Chriz Tah Fah, 22 juillet 2012 - 07:31 .

[paxxton]

comrade gando wrote...

paxxton wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Also this:
Shepard: Explain how my energy can be added to the Crucible.
The Catalyst: There is little time left but blah blah blah.

lol, might as well have said "just shut up and pick a color". that's the effect that line had lol

Those lines are from the game.

f'sho. I can't even imagine what the writers are thinking "I gotta explain this somehow... hmmm.. there's not enough time, the player doesn't care anyway. man this is easy!"

either that or "those dang IT'ers are on to us, gotta throw in some nice slideshows and pretty music to throw them off"

Maybe "Nuff said. Move on and make room for others who are trying to stop us."

[paxxton]

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Eryri wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Eryri wrote...

True. The brat's like a second hand car salesman trying to push Shepard into buying a lemon (i.e. Synthesis).

Oh and don't get me started on adding Shepard's "energy" to the Crucible. Energy is a well defined physical concept, - the capacity to do thermodynamic work. It's measured in joules. What is this energy that Shepard is supposed to have that can transform every living thing in an instant? It just sounds like crystal-healing, hippy, mumbo jumbo to me.

According to Relativity Theory matter and energy are interchangeable. When Shepard's atoms' nuclei are broken tremendous amounts of energy is released. Something like that.

Ah, of course! It all makes sense now! 

Basically, Shepard becomes the most powerful atomic bomb in the Galaxy's history. Simple.

Shepard: "May I request a body double?"

Catalyst: "You have a body double lying in the rubble. More than you deserve."

Modifié par paxxton, 22 juillet 2012 - 07:30 .

[Chriz Tah Fah]

Actually the atom energy theory doesn't hold as much weight because eezo energy and the energy sources in mass effect are apparently so powerful that all the atoms in Shepard's body shouldn't add up to that much (in relativity to how much energy the crucible is holding).

[RavenEyry]

paxxton wrote...

Catalyst: "You have a body double lying in the rubble. More than you deserve."

Harby: AFTER THE HARVEST, MAY WE STOP FOR ICE CREAM?
Catalyst: You shall have ice cream, more than you deserve.

[Eryri]

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

 For the whole "theres no time to explain" poo that the kid gives us he could at least have pointed out that "you will bleed out soon, a decision must be made." This would have partly fixed the brat not explaining everything. However, this entire point is voided because Shepard is no longer bleeding after going up the elevator for some reason even though she was bleeding before . However, with the breath scene it would have been too obvious if the brat said "make a decision before you bleed out" and then you live anyway. It's dumb. If anything was lazy/bad writing it was that part.

Yeah, I'm not a doctor, but I don't think people just pick themselves up after losing about 6 pints of blood and passing out. And then in the final part of Synthesis, Shepard seems to recover completely, lose his or her limp, and take an athletic running jump into the green beam of death! That's either horrendously bad writing, or utterly brilliant writing, suggesting all is not as it seems. God, I hope it's the latter!

Modifié par Eryri, 22 juillet 2012 - 07:39 .

[Chriz Tah Fah]

Eryri wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

 For the whole "theres no time to explain" poo that the kid gives us he could at least have pointed out that "you will bleed out soon, a decision must be made." This would have partly fixed the brat not explaining everything. However, this entire point is voided because Shepard is no longer bleeding after going up the elevator for some reason even though she was bleeding before . However, with the breath scene it would have been too obvious if the brat said "make a decision before you bleed out" and then you live anyway. It's dumb. If anything was lazy/bad writing it was that part.

Yeah, I'm not a doctor, but I don't think people just pick themselves up after losing about 6 pints of blood and passing out. And then in the final part of Synthesis, Shepard seems to recover completely, lose his or limp, and take an athletic running jump into the green beam of death! That's either horrendously bad writing, or utterly brilliant writing, suggesting all is not as it seems. God, I hope it's the latter!

In destroy Shepard loses the limp too. All it really is is the hallucination breaking I think.

[paxxton]

RavenEyry wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Catalyst: "You have a body double lying in the rubble. More than you deserve."

Harby: AFTER THE HARVEST, MAY WE STOP FOR ICE CREAM?
Catalyst: You shall have ice cream, more than you deserve.

And then everybody sang  and so there was peace throughout the Galaxy.

Modifié par paxxton, 22 juillet 2012 - 07:40 .

[Rosewind]

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

Eryri wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

 For the whole "theres no time to explain" poo that the kid gives us he could at least have pointed out that "you will bleed out soon, a decision must be made." This would have partly fixed the brat not explaining everything. However, this entire point is voided because Shepard is no longer bleeding after going up the elevator for some reason even though she was bleeding before . However, with the breath scene it would have been too obvious if the brat said "make a decision before you bleed out" and then you live anyway. It's dumb. If anything was lazy/bad writing it was that part.

Yeah, I'm not a doctor, but I don't think people just pick themselves up after losing about 6 pints of blood and passing out. And then in the final part of Synthesis, Shepard seems to recover completely, lose his or limp, and take an athletic running jump into the green beam of death! That's either horrendously bad writing, or utterly brilliant writing, suggesting all is not as it seems. God, I hope it's the latter!

In destroy Shepard loses the limp too. All it really is is the hallucination breaking I think.

He looses the limp in all of them doesn't he

[RavenEyry]

Rosewind wrote...

He looses the limp in all of them doesn't he

Yep, that was the most invigorating lift Shepard has ever been on, and they've experienced many. 4/5, would ride again.

[Eryri]

Rosewind wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...


In destroy Shepard loses the limp too. All it really is is the hallucination breaking I think.

He looses the limp in all of them doesn't he

Thinking back I don't think he loses the limp in control. He just staggers up to the clearly lethally electrified levers, drops his gun, and then thrashes around as about 20 million volts run through him.
Must have seemed like a good idea at the time. 

Modifié par Eryri, 22 juillet 2012 - 07:51 .

[paxxton]

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

Actually the atom energy theory doesn't hold as much weight because eezo energy and the energy sources in mass effect are apparently so powerful that all the atoms in Shepard's body shouldn't add up to that much (in relativity to how much energy the crucible is holding).

I don't follow but let me say this. If Shepard's atoms' nuclei are bombarded with nanides (which may actually flow in the Crucible's beam), they can be broken because the nuclei receive energy from the moving nanides and the collisions. Then energy contained in Shepard is released and added to the Crucible.

Modifié par paxxton, 22 juillet 2012 - 07:52 .

[Chriz Tah Fah]

paxxton wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

Actually the atom energy theory doesn't hold as much weight because eezo energy and the energy sources in mass effect are apparently so powerful that all the atoms in Shepard's body shouldn't add up to that much (in relativity to how much energy the crucible is holding).

I don't follow but let me say this. If Shepard's atoms' nuclei are bombarded with nanides (which may actually flow in the Crucible's beam), they can be broken because the nuclei receive energy from the moving nanides and the collisions. Then energy contained in Shepard is released and added to the Crucible.

Not sure if I'm getting my lore wrong but the crucible energy is similar to the energy in the mass relays. Blowing up a relay destroys an entire system. An atom bomb can't do anything close to this. While Shepard would add a lot of energy to the crucible it should only be a small fraction of the energy of the crucible.

[Eryri]

paxxton wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

Actually the atom energy theory doesn't hold as much weight because eezo energy and the energy sources in mass effect are apparently so powerful that all the atoms in Shepard's body shouldn't add up to that much (in relativity to how much energy the crucible is holding).

I don't follow but let me say this. If Shepard's atoms' nuclei are bombarded with nanides (which may actually flow in the Crucible's beam), they can be broken because the nuclei receive energy from the movement of nanides and collisions. Then energy contained in Shepard is released.

Not sure if you're joking (sorry I have a bad internet irony detector). But I don't think atomic physics works like that. Thinking back to High School physics -  nuclei are bound together with the strong nuclear force, which is incredibly hard to overcome. It's only easy to split big unstable atoms like Uranium, because those nuclei are oversized for the binding energy they posses and "want" to drop down to a more stable element - the most stable element of all being iron. 

Shepard is made of stable, low mass atoms like carbon and oxygen, which would require energy to be input to split them. Those nuclei would prefer to fuse to form heavier atoms if anything - which would require enormous pressure and temperature - such as the core of a red giant star.

God, you'd almost think I knew what the hell I was talking about.