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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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estebanus wrote...

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Rosewind wrote...
Yeah I never knew about that either.

Well, I did try to convince folk to get the Final Hours app, at only $2.99 it's a good read, I gave up when folk were ignoring my posts on the subject, one interesting artist impression is Liara comforting Shepard near a pile of rubble with reapers in the background, and I'd say it's London.

I'd love to hold a conversation on the final hours app, but unfortunately as I don't own an iAnything the publishers of the final hours app don't want my money <_<

Kind of like ME Datapad really. You'd think that the Android phones market being 3 times larger would make it an important target for EA/Bioware...


Same here. I would have bought both myself if I owned an iPad of some kind. But, alas, I do not.

Neither do I.

Come to think of it, I actually don't use a lot of that stuff...


I hate the apple stuff with a passion.

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Rosewind wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Rosewind wrote...
Yeah I never knew about that either.

Well, I did try to convince folk to get the Final Hours app, at only $2.99 it's a good read, I gave up when folk were ignoring my posts on the subject, one interesting artist impression is Liara comforting Shepard near a pile of rubble with reapers in the background, and I'd say it's London.

I'd love to hold a conversation on the final hours app, but unfortunately as I don't own an iAnything the publishers of the final hours app don't want my money <_<

Kind of like ME Datapad really. You'd think that the Android phones market being 3 times larger would make it an important target for EA/Bioware...


Same here. I would have bought both myself if I owned an iPad of some kind. But, alas, I do not.

Neither do I.

Come to think of it, I actually don't use a lot of that stuff...


I hate the apple stuff with a passion.


Haters gonna hate. My iPad, iPhone, and iMac all work great for the purposes I use them for.

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CoolioThane wrote...

Lighten up Gando, sheesh! Leviathan looks really interesting!


Dont get me wrong Im sure it will be badass, but if Im still talking to glowstick and exploding the galaxy with magic then to me its not worth it

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byne wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Rosewind wrote...
Yeah I never knew about that either.

Well, I did try to convince folk to get the Final Hours app, at only $2.99 it's a good read, I gave up when folk were ignoring my posts on the subject, one interesting artist impression is Liara comforting Shepard near a pile of rubble with reapers in the background, and I'd say it's London.

I'd love to hold a conversation on the final hours app, but unfortunately as I don't own an iAnything the publishers of the final hours app don't want my money <_<

Kind of like ME Datapad really. You'd think that the Android phones market being 3 times larger would make it an important target for EA/Bioware...


Same here. I would have bought both myself if I owned an iPad of some kind. But, alas, I do not.

Neither do I.

Come to think of it, I actually don't use a lot of that stuff...


I hate the apple stuff with a passion.


Haters gonna hate. My iPad, iPhone, and iMac all work great for the purposes I use them for.



They over priced for what they do, it;s just a designer brand of the IT world there are things out there that are much better.

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comrade gando wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Lighten up Gando, sheesh! Leviathan looks really interesting!


Dont get me wrong Im sure it will be badass, but if Im still talking to glowstick and exploding the galaxy with magic then to me its not worth it


I heard a rumor they might even make Leviathan free:?

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ld1449 wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Lighten up Gando, sheesh! Leviathan looks really interesting!


Dont get me wrong Im sure it will be badass, but if Im still talking to glowstick and exploding the galaxy with magic then to me its not worth it


I heard a rumor they might even make Leviathan free:?


considering the clusterf*ck of controversy the ending caused - I'd be surprised if they made much money with DLC at this point :P

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ld1449 wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Lighten up Gando, sheesh! Leviathan looks really interesting!


Dont get me wrong Im sure it will be badass, but if Im still talking to glowstick and exploding the galaxy with magic then to me its not worth it


I heard a rumor they might even make Leviathan free:?

If they did they'd certainly have to find a way to push more people to play multiplayer
Apparently they've now made more in bioware points sales than from all of the ME2 DLC combined, so it's certainly possible they could find a way to make it free.

That said, I don't think it will be ;)

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v0rt3x22 wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Lighten up Gando, sheesh! Leviathan looks really interesting!


Dont get me wrong Im sure it will be badass, but if Im still talking to glowstick and exploding the galaxy with magic then to me its not worth it


I heard a rumor they might even make Leviathan free:?


considering the clusterf*ck of controversy the ending caused - I'd be surprised if they made much money with DLC at this point :P


Plus, y'know, free multiplayer stuff

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byne wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

I hate the apple stuff with a passion.


Haters gonna hate. My iPad, iPhone, and iMac all work great for the purposes I use them for.

They should be, they sure weren't cheap :P

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Flog61 wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Lighten up Gando, sheesh! Leviathan looks really interesting!


Dont get me wrong Im sure it will be badass, but if Im still talking to glowstick and exploding the galaxy with magic then to me its not worth it


I heard a rumor they might even make Leviathan free:?


considering the clusterf*ck of controversy the ending caused - I'd be surprised if they made much money with DLC at this point :P


Plus, y'know, free multiplayer stuff

I'm quite sure they did get some money via the ingame store...

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ld1449 wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Lighten up Gando, sheesh! Leviathan looks really interesting!


Dont get me wrong Im sure it will be badass, but if Im still talking to glowstick and exploding the galaxy with magic then to me its not worth it


I heard a rumor they might even make Leviathan free:?

I doubt it, but it would be very... interesting... if it was.

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TSA_383 wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Lighten up Gando, sheesh! Leviathan looks really interesting!


Dont get me wrong Im sure it will be badass, but if Im still talking to glowstick and exploding the galaxy with magic then to me its not worth it


I heard a rumor they might even make Leviathan free:?

If they did they'd certainly have to find a way to push more people to play multiplayer
Apparently they've now made more in bioware points sales than from all of the ME2 DLC combined, so it's certainly possible they could find a way to make it free.

That said, I don't think it will be ;)

I heard a rumor that it will be free for origin users after paying a $7.99 download charge. :wizard:PC master race FTW!

Modifié par smokingotter1, 24 juillet 2012 - 05:45 .


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smokingotter1 wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Lighten up Gando, sheesh! Leviathan looks really interesting!


Dont get me wrong Im sure it will be badass, but if Im still talking to glowstick and exploding the galaxy with magic then to me its not worth it


I heard a rumor they might even make Leviathan free:?

If they did they'd certainly have to find a way to push more people to play multiplayer
Apparently they've now made more in bioware points sales than from all of the ME2 DLC combined, so it's certainly possible they could find a way to make it free.

That said, I don't think it will be ;)

I heard a rumor that it will be free for origin users after paying a $7.99 download charge. :wizard:PC master race FTW!

LOL. I think that it being free is out of the question. We've already got a lot for free and they have to pay their electricity bills too.

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paxxton wrote...

LOL. I think that it being free is out of the question. We've already got a lot for free and they have to pay their electricity bills too.


It'd be out in mid-August?

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paxxton wrote...

LOL. I think that it being free is out of the question. We've already got a lot for free and they have to pay their electricity bills too.


It'd be out in mid-August?

Hopefully, yes. Fingers crossed. Posted Image

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Looking forward to Leviathan as well. Will be cool, I hope. :D

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pirate1802 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

LOL. I think that it being free is out of the question. We've already got a lot for free and they have to pay their electricity bills too.


It'd be out in mid-August?

Heard it was undergoing certification/testing at Microsoft and Sony. Maybe even sooner than that. Soon at least.Posted Image

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I officially hate the packs in MP, all I get is upgrade for weapons I don't ever use or upgrades for Characters that are either max lvl or don't even play or customise much.....

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My clipboard says it's been too long since I've made an appearance in the thread. How is everyone? Still speculating, I hope? =)

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

LOL. I think that it being free is out of the question. We've already got a lot for free and they have to pay their electricity bills too.


It'd be out in mid-August?

Heard it was undergoing certification/testing at Microsoft and Sony. Maybe even sooner than that. Soon at least.Posted Image


I hope so, I feel like I'm scrapping at the bottom of my speculation barrel.

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Guys, I'm running low...

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HellishFiend wrote...

My clipboard says it's been too long since I've made an appearance in the thread. How is everyone? Still speculating, I hope? =)

Definitely! Good to see you back. Posted Image

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SwobyJ wrote...

From my thread (and THANK YOU to certain ITers for providing the video):

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I know some of the forumites have seen (or even made) this video, but it STILL strikes me after all these weeks.



The song is perfect for it though. Here's the lyrics.

"Missa ignis, missa ultoris
(gather the fire, gather vengance - rough translation)
Missa presteris et saltatus (gather the whirlwind dance - rough translation

See the beauty of the world
In a clear vermilion sky
One day, one day

Plant the trees to cut them down
Burn my city to the ground
Count seconds - steal the time
Waste your words to build a rhyme
For all holes in me to fill
I need the newborn lives to...
Pray my true amens
After fire roses dance"

Ha. This is the ending, pretty much.

"See
the beauty of the world" = remember the connections you have made with
organics or even synthetics. This is not a battle between each of them,
but a battle against both uniformity and forced control over others.

"Plant the trees to cut them down" = This is what the Reapers do. It is their purpose, still.

"Burn my city to the ground" = A challenge to the Reapers, that they may estinguish organics, but we will resist.

"Count seconds - to steal the time" = The Reapers control the cycle and the how and when of what organics do

"Waste
your words to build a rhyme" = The Reapers possibly indoctrinate
themselves, and their certainty in themselves is both their strength,
and their weakness. The 'Catalyst' itself is also likely faulty, wasting
its own words and arguments on Shepard. The 'rhyme' isn't even a rhyme,
as much as the Reapers wish to make it so.

"For all holes in me to fill
I need the newborn lives to...
Pray my true amens"
-The
sacrifice of so many millions, billions, trillions of people, just to
prove their point (that co-existance between organics and synthetics is
impossible), to show that they are in the right (using forced
indoctrination), and continue their existance as gods (when they are
actually roaming parasites).


Thanks to whoever made this, as
it is Indoctrination Theory in a nutshell. The Reapers SO BADLY want to
prove to the universe that they are the masters of it. Their experience
is the opposite of the geth now (especially if you forge peace between
them and the quarians), and I'm looking forward to the Leviathan DLC,
which would imo likely show just how misguided the Reapers are/Catalyst
is, and how they are still more akin to the sidequest AI on the Citadel
in ME1, rather than the self-realized geth of ME2-3, and especially the
enlightened EDI of ME3. They'll blow up the universe before even coming
close to truly attempting to come to peace with organics... and the
consequence was likely cascadingly more disasterous with each cycle. By
now, they deserve the 100% designation of abominations, and they simply
will have to be destroyed. Even the Geth and EDI would agree with this.

http://youtu.be/h04w3Y3QDLw?t=9m26s
It's not over.


I know this is an old post, but I just wanted to thank SwobyJ for coming out and demonstrating a full appreciation of the song choice for the vid.  :)

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HellishFiend wrote...

My clipboard says it's been too long since I've made an appearance in the thread. How is everyone? Still speculating, I hope? =)

Long time no see! We've been mostly off-topic today but we're doing fine. Still no lockdown which is uplifting.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

My clipboard says it's been too long since I've made an appearance in the thread. How is everyone? Still speculating, I hope? =)

Definitely! Good to see you back. Posted Image


Thanks! Good to be back. I've been on BSN the whole time, but mainly just restricted to PMing lately. Still working on Episode 1 of Choose Wisely. :)

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

LOL. I think that it being free is out of the question. We've already got a lot for free and they have to pay their electricity bills too.


It'd be out in mid-August?

Heard it was undergoing certification/testing at Microsoft and Sony. Maybe even sooner than that. Soon at least.Posted Image


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