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[AxStapleton]

AxStapleton wrote...

This has gone slightly off topic, hasn't it?

[HellishFiend]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Thought I'd post this again if anyone cares.

Okay. So I'll start by saying I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything here; this is just my interpretation.

So I felt like I'd compile a list of evidence (to me at least) from the new Earth DLC and its trailer. You could boil it down to reused assets if you want but "nothing you say will ever convince me otherwise". Here it goes.

Let's start with the DLC itself, not the trailer"

Grasping at straws emergency induction ports: When I looked at the map order and realized that they are not in alphabetical order I was curious to know why there were in the order they are in (Rio, Vancouver, London). Then I realized what it spells when I used the first letter of each in order: RVL = Reveal.

Not grasping at straws emergency induction ports: Voices. So I am fairly sure the Shadow infiltrator is voiced by engineer Daniels. You can really tell with certain lines. Weird right?

Next, the new VI drone in the escort mission is, as far as I can tell, voiced by engineer Adams in a pitched up Salarian voice. Remember he voiced Padok Wiks in a higher voice. I can't tell who voices the Destroyer or Paladin but I don't recognize them. If it was engineer Donnelly putting on a North American accent I think that would really be interesting. Why? IMO this points to post ending DLC involving the GX12-Chekhov's-gun. Maybe the Normandy is fighting in space and if you don't have the GX12 the three engies get vapourised! It's a big "if" but I don't care.

The warning sign in Firebase Vancouver. You see it immediately after exiting the enormous ladder that it also a vent. Not just any warning sign either. The one used in SP Vancouver with the kid. The one (no longer) specific to that scene. Note it says "Warning: Code 89" on it. A Code 89 means a crime against nature = a reaper.

The existence of Firebase Rio: I'll start here by explaining why I think the map's existence is important. All of the MP maps are based off sections of the SP we've played on with the apparent exception of 2: Firebase Hydra and, now, Firebase Rio. But I don't think Hydra is somewhere we didn't go. Let me explain. As far as we can tell, (credit to BleedingUranium here) Firebase Hydra is most likely the cut beginning of the Geth consensus mission. I'll list the evidence I can think of off the top of my head for this:
- The map was released very soon after the base game; it would have already fully/partially existed.
- The map fits fairly well with the current mission. If you didn't notice on the map itself, there are Geth virtual reality pods in its control room, near an unused tram system.
- As you can see from the following vid at starting at about 1:40, the scene cuts quite abruptly from Shepard walking with his squad at the beginning of the mission (like always happens in missions right before taking control of Shepard) to the squad being inside. Shepard then pops out a heat sink. Why would you need to do that if you haven't fought anyone yet?
- There is no actual combat in this mission. I think the MP map area would have been it, but was cut most likely to either shorten the mission or, more likely, so as not to break the non-reality aspect of the mission.
Geth consensus mission:
So my point here is to simply emphasize that all MP maps, even Hydra, are based of SP locations. IMO this is clear evidence that points to a post ending DLC, seeing as they only way I can think of Rio being in SP is IT.

Rio: The map itself is quite interesting and unique, as it features a large as-of-yet unknown facility in the ocean. The whole area is heavily defended, and has the look of something quite important (some sort of research facility?) Close to the landing pad the N7 operatives land on, there is a gate (already open in MP) that says "Restricted Access" or something to that effect. This is the direction you would travel in the Rio SP mission. Following that path you will soon end up at the control-center looking thing in the middle of the map. This sparked my attention, and I immediately started looking for a ladder. Sure enough, go inside this and look up. There is a trap door in the ceiling. Looks like the ladder going through the trap door was cut in MP for obvious reasons. So the objective thus far would be to get inside the control center and activate the AA guns/drain the water/open the facility somehow. Not sure exactly how the mission would go after that, but whether this is an N7 facility or not, it is impressive that it has been this well defended up until the fleets' arrival. This would also most likely answer the question of how we would defeat the reapers if IT is true. Perhaps there is some sort of weapon there? Speculation for everyone.

Earth MP trailer:
Aside from being quite epic, the trailer is very interesting IMO. For starters, this trailer confirms the MP timeline. The fleets are just about to arrive. This fits with the IT reveal possibly fitting within the MP timeline. Anyway, at 0:23, it looks like instead of Shepard, Anderson, and the squad, they replaced their models with the MP characters. This on its own means nothing; it is reusing assets. What is interesting is at 0:27-0:30 and at 0:38 especially it also looks like reused assets. But from where? There is no Rio SP mission. (Or is there?) Let's look into 0:38-0:43 more closely. Assuming this is SP with the models replaced with MP characters, it would most likely be Shepard (judging from the looking-around animation and the camera emphasis on the destroyer-soldier, I would assume this is the replacement for Shepard's model), 2 squadmates and Anderson(?) having already dealt with Coats in London.Further evidence for this is the lack of Cobras on their backs. IMO the trailer screamed "This isn't over yet!" Anderson's "Until the fleets return" line seemed to me that we have to hold out until "the fleets" arrive, metaphorically. Also, I heard that Anderson's trailer speech is, for the most part, in the EC files. Why they would be there is a mystery to me, as I can't even think of an IT reason for it. If you can, please post it.

So yeah, there you go. Some things to think about!

Good post. I've also noticed on Vancouver that we randomly hear tones similar to the ones we hear in the flashbacks of the endings. 

[TJBartlemus]

byne wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Well the tone of voice reminds me of the prediction by the consort in ME1. Something about having a tough shell but that is not who he is.

Thats all well and good, but in a series where most of the focus is on interactions and relationships with your squad, not showing any emotion is a serious detriment.

He shows a lot of emotion. Not so much if he is paragon but in renegade you can definatley tell he has emotion. Also seems to fit that Paragon is calm while renegade is passionate/rebellious.

[TSA_383]

75 more pages until Thredmageddon strikes us again!

[RavenEyry]

paxxton wrote...
I'm so excited that I gonna see the events of ME1 with movie-quality special effects.

You won't. They've said they're making their own story. Although it still stars Shepard. Yeah.
Also movie does not always equal good special effects.

[paxxton]

AxStapleton wrote...

AxStapleton wrote...

This has gone slightly off topic, hasn't it?

As it's been going on the whole day.

[masster blaster]

paxxton wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Mass Effect movie gonna be awesome. Period.

First you big up control and now this...

I'm so excited that I gonna see the events of ME1 with movie-quality special effects.

It's Vega that is going to be in the ME movie, and it's animated, so ya.

[BansheeOwnage]

HellishFiend wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Thought I'd post this again if anyone cares.

Okay. So I'll start by saying I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything here; this is just my interpretation.

So I felt like I'd compile a list of evidence (to me at least) from the new Earth DLC and its trailer. You could boil it down to reused assets if you want but "nothing you say will ever convince me otherwise". Here it goes.

Let's start with the DLC itself, not the trailer"

Grasping at straws emergency induction ports: When I looked at the map order and realized that they are not in alphabetical order I was curious to know why there were in the order they are in (Rio, Vancouver, London). Then I realized what it spells when I used the first letter of each in order: RVL = Reveal.

Not grasping at straws emergency induction ports: Voices. So I am fairly sure the Shadow infiltrator is voiced by engineer Daniels. You can really tell with certain lines. Weird right?

Next, the new VI drone in the escort mission is, as far as I can tell, voiced by engineer Adams in a pitched up Salarian voice. Remember he voiced Padok Wiks in a higher voice. I can't tell who voices the Destroyer or Paladin but I don't recognize them. If it was engineer Donnelly putting on a North American accent I think that would really be interesting. Why? IMO this points to post ending DLC involving the GX12-Chekhov's-gun. Maybe the Normandy is fighting in space and if you don't have the GX12 the three engies get vapourised! It's a big "if" but I don't care.

The warning sign in Firebase Vancouver. You see it immediately after exiting the enormous ladder that it also a vent. Not just any warning sign either. The one used in SP Vancouver with the kid. The one (no longer) specific to that scene. Note it says "Warning: Code 89" on it. A Code 89 means a crime against nature = a reaper.

The existence of Firebase Rio: I'll start here by explaining why I think the map's existence is important. All of the MP maps are based off sections of the SP we've played on with the apparent exception of 2: Firebase Hydra and, now, Firebase Rio. But I don't think Hydra is somewhere we didn't go. Let me explain. As far as we can tell, (credit to BleedingUranium here) Firebase Hydra is most likely the cut beginning of the Geth consensus mission. I'll list the evidence I can think of off the top of my head for this:
- The map was released very soon after the base game; it would have already fully/partially existed.
- The map fits fairly well with the current mission. If you didn't notice on the map itself, there are Geth virtual reality pods in its control room, near an unused tram system.
- As you can see from the following vid at starting at about 1:40, the scene cuts quite abruptly from Shepard walking with his squad at the beginning of the mission (like always happens in missions right before taking control of Shepard) to the squad being inside. Shepard then pops out a heat sink. Why would you need to do that if you haven't fought anyone yet?
- There is no actual combat in this mission. I think the MP map area would have been it, but was cut most likely to either shorten the mission or, more likely, so as not to break the non-reality aspect of the mission.
Geth consensus mission:
So my point here is to simply emphasize that all MP maps, even Hydra, are based of SP locations. IMO this is clear evidence that points to a post ending DLC, seeing as they only way I can think of Rio being in SP is IT.

Rio: The map itself is quite interesting and unique, as it features a large as-of-yet unknown facility in the ocean. The whole area is heavily defended, and has the look of something quite important (some sort of research facility?) Close to the landing pad the N7 operatives land on, there is a gate (already open in MP) that says "Restricted Access" or something to that effect. This is the direction you would travel in the Rio SP mission. Following that path you will soon end up at the control-center looking thing in the middle of the map. This sparked my attention, and I immediately started looking for a ladder. Sure enough, go inside this and look up. There is a trap door in the ceiling. Looks like the ladder going through the trap door was cut in MP for obvious reasons. So the objective thus far would be to get inside the control center and activate the AA guns/drain the water/open the facility somehow. Not sure exactly how the mission would go after that, but whether this is an N7 facility or not, it is impressive that it has been this well defended up until the fleets' arrival. This would also most likely answer the question of how we would defeat the reapers if IT is true. Perhaps there is some sort of weapon there? Speculation for everyone.

Earth MP trailer:
Aside from being quite epic, the trailer is very interesting IMO. For starters, this trailer confirms the MP timeline. The fleets are just about to arrive. This fits with the IT reveal possibly fitting within the MP timeline. Anyway, at 0:23, it looks like instead of Shepard, Anderson, and the squad, they replaced their models with the MP characters. This on its own means nothing; it is reusing assets. What is interesting is at 0:27-0:30 and at 0:38 especially it also looks like reused assets. But from where? There is no Rio SP mission. (Or is there?) Let's look into 0:38-0:43 more closely. Assuming this is SP with the models replaced with MP characters, it would most likely be Shepard (judging from the looking-around animation and the camera emphasis on the destroyer-soldier, I would assume this is the replacement for Shepard's model), 2 squadmates and Anderson(?) having already dealt with Coats in London.Further evidence for this is the lack of Cobras on their backs. IMO the trailer screamed "This isn't over yet!" Anderson's "Until the fleets return" line seemed to me that we have to hold out until "the fleets" arrive, metaphorically. Also, I heard that Anderson's trailer speech is, for the most part, in the EC files. Why they would be there is a mystery to me, as I can't even think of an IT reason for it. If you can, please post it.

So yeah, there you go. Some things to think about!

Good post. I've also noticed on Vancouver that we randomly hear tones similar to the ones we hear in the flashbacks of the endings. 

Thanks  and I've never noticed the tones. Huh.

[byne]

TSA_383 wrote...

byne wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Let's be honest.
This film is going to suck wrinkly, fetid testicles.
Let's just ignore it and hope it goes away.

Boss: "Johnson, lets hear your proposal!"
Johnson: "Ok sir, what is the most important thing in Mass Effect?"
Boss: "Choices, I'd say. Take those away and you take away what makes Mass Effect great."
Johnson: "Ok, well, what if we took all those choices away, and made it a movie!"
Boss: "Perfect! Here is your raise!"

Yeah, it's probly gonna suck.

I think the conversation was probably more like:

"Video games are old news. MOVIES, that's where the money is..."
"But sir, I.."
"Three and a half BILLION Avatar made. Why aren't we making that kind of money"
"Well yes it is very impressive sir but you should note that"
"Say, if we made a low-budget Mass Effect movie, would people go to see it?"
"Well... yes, but the damage to our reputation could"
"Perfect! Let's make this thing. Hire a director with some thin glasses and let's get to work. This Liara character here; Scientists don't sell tickets, what if she were a stripper?"
*Assistant backs slowly out of room*

"Sir, she's an archaeologist."
"Like Indiana Jones?! GET HER A WHIP AND ROUND UP ALL THE NATIONAL SOCIALISTS YOU CAN FIND!"
"But sir-"
"I know what you're thinking: how will a whip kill National Socialists? Well thats exactly what I plan to find out!"

I'd see that movie.

[TJBartlemus]

@Hellish - Long time no see!!

@masster - we are discussing the actual movie that finally finished the script. Not the anime one.

[byne]

masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Mass Effect movie gonna be awesome. Period.

First you big up control and now this...

I'm so excited that I gonna see the events of ME1 with movie-quality special effects.

It's Vega that is going to be in the ME movie, and it's animated, so ya.

No, they're talking about a different movie.

[AxStapleton]

masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Mass Effect movie gonna be awesome. Period.

First you big up control and now this...

I'm so excited that I gonna see the events of ME1 with movie-quality special effects.

It's Vega that is going to be in the ME movie, and it's animated, so ya.

That's something else entirely. I believe this one is going to be a live action.

Edit: Ninja'd:ph34r:

Modifié par AxStapleton, 24 juillet 2012 - 08:36 .

[TSA_383]

byne wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

byne wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Let's be honest.
This film is going to suck wrinkly, fetid testicles.
Let's just ignore it and hope it goes away.

Boss: "Johnson, lets hear your proposal!"
Johnson: "Ok sir, what is the most important thing in Mass Effect?"
Boss: "Choices, I'd say. Take those away and you take away what makes Mass Effect great."
Johnson: "Ok, well, what if we took all those choices away, and made it a movie!"
Boss: "Perfect! Here is your raise!"

Yeah, it's probly gonna suck.

I think the conversation was probably more like:

"Video games are old news. MOVIES, that's where the money is..."
"But sir, I.."
"Three and a half BILLION Avatar made. Why aren't we making that kind of money"
"Well yes it is very impressive sir but you should note that"
"Say, if we made a low-budget Mass Effect movie, would people go to see it?"
"Well... yes, but the damage to our reputation could"
"Perfect! Let's make this thing. Hire a director with some thin glasses and let's get to work. This Liara character here; Scientists don't sell tickets, what if she were a stripper?"
*Assistant backs slowly out of room*

"Sir, she's an archaeologist."
"Like Indiana Jones?! GET HER A WHIP AND ROUND UP ALL THE NATIONAL SOCIALISTS YOU CAN FIND!"
"But sir-"
"I know what you're thinking: how will a whip kill National Socialists? Well thats exactly what I plan to find out!"

I'd see that movie.

Liara killing comic-book-villan-esque N@zis with a whip?

That'd work.

[BansheeOwnage]

masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Mass Effect movie gonna be awesome. Period.

First you big up control and now this...

I'm so excited that I gonna see the events of ME1 with movie-quality special effects.

It's Vega that is going to be in the ME movie, and it's animated, so ya.

2 different movies.

Edit: Double  I should go...

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 24 juillet 2012 - 08:37 .

[byne]

TSA_383 wrote...


Liara killing comic-book-villan-esque N@zis with a whip?

That'd work.

It could be one of those biotic whips like the Cerberus MP characters have.

[AxStapleton]

byne wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

byne wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Let's be honest.
This film is going to suck wrinkly, fetid testicles.
Let's just ignore it and hope it goes away.

Boss: "Johnson, lets hear your proposal!"
Johnson: "Ok sir, what is the most important thing in Mass Effect?"
Boss: "Choices, I'd say. Take those away and you take away what makes Mass Effect great."
Johnson: "Ok, well, what if we took all those choices away, and made it a movie!"
Boss: "Perfect! Here is your raise!"

Yeah, it's probly gonna suck.

I think the conversation was probably more like:

"Video games are old news. MOVIES, that's where the money is..."
"But sir, I.."
"Three and a half BILLION Avatar made. Why aren't we making that kind of money"
"Well yes it is very impressive sir but you should note that"
"Say, if we made a low-budget Mass Effect movie, would people go to see it?"
"Well... yes, but the damage to our reputation could"
"Perfect! Let's make this thing. Hire a director with some thin glasses and let's get to work. This Liara character here; Scientists don't sell tickets, what if she were a stripper?"
*Assistant backs slowly out of room*

"Sir, she's an archaeologist."
"Like Indiana Jones?! GET HER A WHIP AND ROUND UP ALL THE NATIONAL SOCIALISTS YOU CAN FIND!"
"But sir-"
"I know what you're thinking: how will a whip kill National Socialists? Well thats exactly what I plan to find out!"

I'd see that movie.

That seriously sounds like something that could be said in Red vs Blue by Sarge.

Modifié par AxStapleton, 24 juillet 2012 - 08:38 .

[masster blaster]

AxStapleton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Mass Effect movie gonna be awesome. Period.

First you big up control and now this...

I'm so excited that I gonna see the events of ME1 with movie-quality special effects.

Male or female Shepard?

Also will the people in the movie threaters be able, to pick a renegade/Paragon option button, like the one epsiode in futarama.

It's Vega that is going to be in the ME movie, and it's animated, so ya.

That's something else entirely. I believe this one is going to be a live action.

Edit: Ninja'd:ph34r:

[RavenEyry]

paxxton wrote...
As it's been going on the whole day.

Nuh uh, we were discussing Sovereigns dialog earlier.

[TSA_383]

byne wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...


Liara killing comic-book-villan-esque N@zis with a whip?

That'd work.

It could be one of those biotic whips like the Cerberus MP characters have.

FLYING ****'s.

And god help us if they bring Samara into the mass effect movie. The cleavage will end up taking up most of the screen.

[RavenEyry]

TSA_383 wrote...

Liara killing comic-book-villan-esque N@zis with a whip?

That'd work.

That sounds worse than what's already planned.
...
...
Damn my asexuality!

[masster blaster]

Okay I am going to go play my ME3 Shepard and try to see if there is anything, that could be useful.

[masster blaster]

Also I like that today this thread is moving along with top speed.

[TSA_383]

RavenEyry wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Liara killing comic-book-villan-esque N@zis with a whip?

That'd work.

That sounds worse than what's already planned.
...
...
Damn my asexuality!

Aria would make a good movie character.
In fact, just make it about Aria.
Shouldn't tread on the ME story too much that way, and I'd totally see that movie.

[AxStapleton]

AxStapleton wrote...

AxStapleton wrote...

This has gone slightly off topic, hasn't it?

Edit: Yeah I kind of notice I'm contributing to that.

Modifié par AxStapleton, 24 juillet 2012 - 08:41 .

[byne]

masster blaster wrote...

Also will the people in the movie threaters be able, to pick a renegade/Paragon option button, like the one epsiode in futarama.

If you want Shepard to race to the laser gun battle in her hover-Ferarri, press 1. If you want Shepard to double-check her paperwork, press 2. Enter now.

Modifié par byne, 24 juillet 2012 - 08:41 .