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[byne]

masster blaster wrote...

byne wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

(link doesn't work btw)

But yes, he says it no matter what, and its a conversation that isn't optional.

So either its a script error (which does happen..)

Or something big IS up. Really. Really really.

Fine. If the first time he says it is a non-optional conversation, tell me at what point it occurs. I want rock solid proof.

HERE IT IS.

%20] ➜ Mass Effect 3 : Walkthrough - Part 65: The Fall of Thessia [Insanity]

my link is not working, but you can highlight it, but I can't get it to work.

You really suck at links.

Are you using the URL from the address bar?

If you mean this, you can see Shepard walk up to the damned comm link and use it, therefore its an optional conversation and you're 100% wrong.

[masster blaster]

SwobyJ wrote...

A better link www.youtube.com/watch.

It's explicitly stated in a non-optional scene just before the Cerberus Base.

Yeah. :S

And it's even for both good/bad Shepards too, so ya.

[byne]

SwobyJ wrote...

A better link www.youtube.com/watch.

It's explicitly stated in a non-optional scene just before the Cerberus Base.

Yeah. :S

The video you linked is clearly the same conversation from the video I just linked, and therefore is indeed completely optional.

[masster blaster]

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

byne wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

(link doesn't work btw)

But yes, he says it no matter what, and its a conversation that isn't optional.

So either its a script error (which does happen..)

Or something big IS up. Really. Really really.

Fine. If the first time he says it is a non-optional conversation, tell me at what point it occurs. I want rock solid proof.

HERE IT IS.

%20] ➜ Mass Effect 3 : Walkthrough - Part 65: The Fall of Thessia [Insanity]

my link is not working, but you can highlight it, but I can't get it to work.

You really suck at links.

Are you using the URL from the address bar?

If you mean this, you can see Shepard walk up to the damned comm link and use it, therefore its an optional conversation and you're 100% wrong.

Just like Arrival is to it happens, and so does Anderso tells Shepard that he was born in London, either way Shepard learns about Anderson was born in London, as Shepard learns about the Arrival, so both are could have happened, like the canoun for the indoctrination to kick in for Shepard. Am I right.

[masster blaster]

byne wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

A better link www.youtube.com/watch.

It's explicitly stated in a non-optional scene just before the Cerberus Base.

Yeah. :S

The video you linked is clearly the same conversation from the video I just linked, and therefore is indeed completely optional.

And Byne the link I was trying to show you, was the Renegade option choice, and still Anderson says the same thing to Paragon Shepard.

[byne]

masster blaster wrote...

Just like Arrival is to it happens, and so does Anderso tells Shepard that he was born in London, either way Shepard learns about Anderson was born in London, as Shepard learns about the Arrival, so both are could have happened, like the canoun for the indoctrination to kick in for Shepard. Am I right.

No. Arrival is canon as is confirmed by outside sources. You cant switch your position from 'It was totally a non-optional conversation' to 'It was, like, non-optional in the sense that all things are non optional, man' when proven wrong.

Sorry. Its completely optional, and therefore the second 'I was born in London' was added for the benefit of people who didnt have the first conversation.

[byne]

masster blaster wrote...

byne wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

A better link www.youtube.com/watch.

It's explicitly stated in a non-optional scene just before the Cerberus Base.

Yeah. :S

The video you linked is clearly the same conversation from the video I just linked, and therefore is indeed completely optional.

And Byne the link I was trying to show you, was the Renegade option choice, and still Anderson says the same thing to Paragon Shepard.

I dont give a damn what morality the Shepard is, masster, I was never even talking about morality. I was talking about whether you are forced to have the conversation, and you clearly arent.

[Big_Boss9]

masster blaster wrote...
Just like Arrival is to it happens, and so does Anderso tells Shepard that he was born in London, either way
Shepard learns about Anderson was born in London, as Shepard learns about the Arrival, so both are could have happened, like the canoun for the indoctrination to kick in for Shepard. Am I right.

No? It's one thing for Casey and Mac to say that a DLC is canon whether or not everyone has played it. It's quite another to say that every single optional conversation in the game is heard by Shep whether the player heard it or not. As Byne said, the second occurrence was likely for the benefit of players who missed that conversation, given the personal importance of the city to Anderson. There are so many great/good pieces of evidence to look at, but this one is stupid. No offense.

Modifié par Big_Boss9, 25 juillet 2012 - 03:45 .

[byne]

SwobyJ wrote...

I must make two corrections:

1)It was before Horison, not Cerberus Base.

2)Yes, the conversation from what I can see is actually OPTIONAL. I apologize.

One thing I will still maintain is that it is still VERY strange that if you had the holocall where everything is pretty explicit about London and everything, when you arrive on London, Anderson still does the shifty-eye "I was born in London" and Shepard says "Really?" like he never heard it or knew it. (as if he never had Anderson's dossier, but whatever about that)

But again, that could be script error. I do NOT enforce this part as some airtight evidence of anything, but I do include it in the chest of bits from Cerberus Base and onward that are outright 'off' feeling.

Sure, I'll agree him mentioning it and Shep saying 'Really?' is mildly weird, in the same way that whether or not you're friends with Cortez affecting his survival is weird, but this notion of it somehow being a super secret indoctrination test is utterly ridiculous.

[masster blaster]

Fine. I get it but it's still strange, like Wrex saying that EVa wants to name a kid Morin, which was Wrex's idea, not Eva. I just think London is a Fu**** up place.

[byne]

masster blaster wrote...

Fine. I get it but it's still strange, like Wrex saying that EVa wants to name a kid Morin, which was Wrex's idea, not Eva. I just think London is a Fu**** up place.

I've seen you call her Eva a few times now, masster.

This is Eva:



This is Eve (Urdnot Bakara):





Though, I grant you that if Eva wanted to name her kid Mordin, that'd be really weird.

[Bill Casey]

byne wrote...

Sure, I'll agree him mentioning it and Shep saying 'Really?' is mildly weird, in the same way that whether or not you're friends with Cortez affecting his survival is weird, but this notion of it somehow being a super secret indoctrination test is utterly ridiculous.

Modifié par Bill Casey, 25 juillet 2012 - 04:14 .

[DirtyPhoenix]

I once saw a "decision chamber is on the crucible" thread in here, can someone point me to it?

[byne]

Bill Casey wrote...

byne wrote...

Sure, I'll agree him mentioning it and Shep saying 'Really?' is mildly weird, in the same way that whether or not you're friends with Cortez affecting his survival is weird, but this notion of it somehow being a super secret indoctrination test is utterly ridiculous.

If I wanted to pull out every time one character looked at another in a weird way it'd take me weeks. I dont see your point.

[Bill Casey]

There's a pause, a shifty look and then this...



Anderson: It's too bad it took the Reapers to bring us together.

Squadmate: Shepard brought us together.

Anderson: That's exactly what I meant.


It's weird...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 25 juillet 2012 - 04:16 .

[Simon_Says]

byne wrote...

If I wanted to pull out every time one character looked at another in a weird way it'd take me weeks. I dont see your point.

Case. In. Point.

Modifié par Simon_Says, 25 juillet 2012 - 04:18 .

[byne]

Bill Casey wrote...

There's a pause, a shifty look and then this...



Anderson: It's too bad it took the Reapers to bring us together.

Squadmate: Shepard brought us together.

Anderson: That's exactly what I meant.


It's weird...

All of London is weird.

Anyhow, I'm going to sleep. Being super tired is probly whats making me so combative tonight.

[Bill Casey]

I don't know if Anderson is suspicious of Shepard, the situation in general, or is just trying to warn him, but something's not right. There's definitely some heavy handed subtext crammed in there...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 25 juillet 2012 - 04:21 .

[L0NEWOLF25]

I was playing through ME2 again and noticed something a little wierd. During the first mission right before you meet up with Miranda at the Evac area there are three shuttles on the floor below you. So why is it that Miranda tells you that there is only the one shuttle behind her off the station?

[Bill Casey]

...Only one of them is functional?

Modifié par Bill Casey, 25 juillet 2012 - 04:23 .