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[Andromidius]

MaximizedAction wrote...
If this were a movie would there even be any doubt that the way it is presented, the kid is just in Shep's imagination?

There's a lot of things that people will accept in a movie, but not in a video game.

Which is stupid, honestly.  The two should be treated in the same manner when it comes to storytelling.  Heck, some games tell much better stories then a movie ever could.

Edit: Lots of 'white flashes' in those images.  Obviously showing you its supposed to be a dream.  Which is interesting.

If Bioware didn't intend everything to mean something ultimately, why put it in in the first place?  That video from ME2 Arrival has to mean something - and not just 'this is what happens if you fail' since you'd then have to accept what you see at face value.

/sigh

Modifié par Andromidius, 26 juillet 2012 - 12:17 .

[Gwyphon]

This seems to be a mix of both ME1 and ME2 crew (Ashley isn't part of your crew in ME2), just like Mordin (second from our left) is not in ME1 + The Illusive Man. Seems odd.

Modifié par Gwyphon, 26 juillet 2012 - 12:16 .

[MaximizedAction]

Andromidius wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...
If this were a movie would there even be any doubt that the way it is presented, the kid is just in Shep's imagination?

There's a lot of things that people will accept in a movie, but not in a video game.

Which is stupid, honestly.  The two should be treated in the same manner when it comes to storytelling.  Heck, some games tell much better stories then a movie ever could.

And keep in mind how often Bioware implied that they are trying to make ME like a cinematic experience. Therefore, if I trust Bioware that the EC made the ending as bug free as it can get, I'd say we just have to trust them then all those oddities are as intended as it gets.

[Andromidius]

Gwyphon wrote...
This seems to be a mix of both ME1 and ME2 crew (Ashley isn't part of your crew in ME2), just like Mordin (second from our left) is not in ME1 + The Illusive Man. Seems odd.

Not to mention that's Wrex on the right hand side, you can tell because of the hump.  Strange they put him in there, but not Grunt.

Also that building in the middle reminds me of the conduit.

Oh, Bioware, you.

Edit:  6:00.

It looks eerily similar...  Complete with a line of people looking up at it, and the three arms of the conduit looking like the Reaper's tenticals...

Modifié par Andromidius, 26 juillet 2012 - 12:21 .

[MegumiAzusa]

Gwyphon wrote...

This seems to be a mix of both ME1 and ME2 crew (Ashley isn't part of your crew in ME2), just like Mordin (second from our left) is not in ME1 + The Illusive Man. Seems odd.

It's interesting to note the top down view of the crew isn't the same as the front/back view.

[v0rt3x22]

any new awesome discovery I should be aware of?

I don't expect to here anything new from BioWare closer to November.

[Gwyphon]

Also looking through those screens, at one point it focuses on Ashley and TIM (and Miranda to a lesser extent, but who really cares about Miranda?), then it fades to Harbingers 'face'. Interesting. We know TIM is indoctrinated, but Ashley? We did finder her in ME1 amongst reaper controlled forces. Veeeery interesting... *glares suspiciously at Ashley*

[MaximizedAction]

Gwyphon wrote...

This seems to be a mix of both ME1 and ME2 crew (Ashley isn't part of your crew in ME2), just like Mordin (second from our left) is not in ME1 + The Illusive Man. Seems odd.

My guess is that those are the characters that mean the most to Shepard/the player.

While that doesn't make sense in a real case of a Reaper invasion (other folks in the galaxy should be seen as victims, too), it does make sense for Shepard's emotionally and psychologically. This reminds me of the turret situation on London FOB that was discussed yesterday.

[Rosewind]

Gwyphon wrote...

Screen 145: If that is Anderson, isn't it awfully reminiscent of the vision you get of Anderson for the destroy ending.

Screen 162: What exactly am I looking at here?

Looks like a reaper reproduction to me lol.....

[Rosewind]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...

This seems to be a mix of both ME1 and ME2 crew (Ashley isn't part of your crew in ME2), just like Mordin (second from our left) is not in ME1 + The Illusive Man. Seems odd.

My guess is that those are the characters that mean the most to Shepard/the player.

While that doesn't make sense in a real case of a Reaper invasion (other folks in the galaxy should be seen as victims, too), it does make sense for Shepard's emotionally and psychologically. This reminds me of the turret situation on London FOB that was discussed yesterday.

You know ash always appears even when she dead......from what I hear anyway.

[MegumiAzusa]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...

This seems to be a mix of both ME1 and ME2 crew (Ashley isn't part of your crew in ME2), just like Mordin (second from our left) is not in ME1 + The Illusive Man. Seems odd.

My guess is that those are the characters that mean the most to Shepard/the player.

While that doesn't make sense in a real case of a Reaper invasion (other folks in the galaxy should be seen as victims, too), it does make sense for Shepard's emotionally and psychologically. This reminds me of the turret situation on London FOB that was discussed yesterday.

Note that the top down view is just your full ME2 crew:
Samara, Legion, Jacob, Grunt, Miranda, Jack, Garrus, Tali, Mordin, Thane (left to right, top to bottom)

[Rosewind]

Gwyphon wrote...

Also looking through those screens, at one point it focuses on Ashley and TIM (and Miranda to a lesser extent, but who really cares about Miranda?), then it fades to Harbingers 'face'. Interesting. We know TIM is indoctrinated, but Ashley? We did finder her in ME1 amongst reaper controlled forces. Veeeery interesting... *glares suspiciously at Ashley*

ZOMBIE ASH!!!!!!! I hate ash wouldn't surprise me if she was indoctrinated/never really dead.

[TSA_383]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

any new awesome discovery I should be aware of?

I don't expect to here anything new from BioWare closer to November.

Well Leviathan's done, and is either in QA or Sony/Microsoft Certification...

So I'd say August is more likely 

[MegumiAzusa]

Rosewind wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...

This seems to be a mix of both ME1 and ME2 crew (Ashley isn't part of your crew in ME2), just like Mordin (second from our left) is not in ME1 + The Illusive Man. Seems odd.

My guess is that those are the characters that mean the most to Shepard/the player.

While that doesn't make sense in a real case of a Reaper invasion (other folks in the galaxy should be seen as victims, too), it does make sense for Shepard's emotionally and psychologically. This reminds me of the turret situation on London FOB that was discussed yesterday.

You know ash always appears even when she dead......from what I hear anyway.

In any case she's one of the top 4 candidates of your crew being indoctrinated.

[Andromidius]

No-one else sees the similarity with those two images then? Maybe its just me then.

[Rosewind]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...

This seems to be a mix of both ME1 and ME2 crew (Ashley isn't part of your crew in ME2), just like Mordin (second from our left) is not in ME1 + The Illusive Man. Seems odd.

My guess is that those are the characters that mean the most to Shepard/the player.

While that doesn't make sense in a real case of a Reaper invasion (other folks in the galaxy should be seen as victims, too), it does make sense for Shepard's emotionally and psychologically. This reminds me of the turret situation on London FOB that was discussed yesterday.

Note that the top down view is just your full ME2 crew:
Samara, Legion, Jacob, Grunt, Miranda, Jack, Garrus, Tali, Mordin, Thane (left to right, top to bottom)

looks more liked: Thane, mordan, garrus, chuckwas(we know she infront of garrus from the other screens), ash, tim, Mirdanda, Jacob, Joker, kelly and Grunt. Samara might be in front of grunt but I defiantly cant see Legion.

[MegumiAzusa]

Rosewind wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...

This seems to be a mix of both ME1 and ME2 crew (Ashley isn't part of your crew in ME2), just like Mordin (second from our left) is not in ME1 + The Illusive Man. Seems odd.

My guess is that those are the characters that mean the most to Shepard/the player.

While that doesn't make sense in a real case of a Reaper invasion (other folks in the galaxy should be seen as victims, too), it does make sense for Shepard's emotionally and psychologically. This reminds me of the turret situation on London FOB that was discussed yesterday.

Note that the top down view is just your full ME2 crew:
Samara, Legion, Jacob, Grunt, Miranda, Jack, Garrus, Tali, Mordin, Thane (left to right, top to bottom)

looks more liked: Thane, mordan, garrus, chuckwas(we know she infront of garrus from the other screens), ash, tim, Mirdanda, Jacob, Joker, kelly and Grunt. Samara might be in front of grunt but I defiantly cant see Legion.

I said the top down view:

[Gwyphon]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...

This seems to be a mix of both ME1 and ME2 crew (Ashley isn't part of your crew in ME2), just like Mordin (second from our left) is not in ME1 + The Illusive Man. Seems odd.

My guess is that those are the characters that mean the most to Shepard/the player.

While that doesn't make sense in a real case of a Reaper invasion (other folks in the galaxy should be seen as victims, too), it does make sense for Shepard's emotionally and psychologically. This reminds me of the turret situation on London FOB that was discussed yesterday.

Note that the top down view is just your full ME2 crew:
Samara, Legion, Jacob, Grunt, Miranda, Jack, Garrus, Tali, Mordin, Thane (left to right, top to bottom)

looks more liked: Thane, mordan, garrus, chuckwas(we know she infront of garrus from the other screens), ash, tim, Mirdanda, Jacob, Joker, kelly and Grunt. Samara might be in front of grunt but I defiantly cant see Legion.

I said the top down view:

Yeah I've been flashing back and forth between the two angles. They're definately different. Mainly the Krogan. (from the back looks like Wrex, from the top looks like Grunt). WIth that said regardless the shell is still white like Grunt so I don't know.

[Rosewind]

Gwyphon wrote...

*Snip*

Yeah I've been flashing back and forth between the two angles. They're definately different. Mainly the Krogan. (from the back looks like Wrex, from the top looks like Grunt). WIth that said regardless the shell is still white like Grunt so I don't know.

I reckon is it grunt in both, but forget about that why would they do two groups if it was meant to be the same scene.

[MegumiAzusa]

Rosewind wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...

*Snip*

Yeah I've been flashing back and forth between the two angles. They're definately different. Mainly the Krogan. (from the back looks like Wrex, from the top looks like Grunt). WIth that said regardless the shell is still white like Grunt so I don't know.

I reckon is it grunt in both, but forget about that why would they do two groups if it was meant to be the same scene.

It's Wrex when looking from behind, the armor is quite different.

[Gwyphon]

Rosewind wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...

*Snip*

Yeah I've been flashing back and forth between the two angles. They're definately different. Mainly the Krogan. (from the back looks like Wrex, from the top looks like Grunt). WIth that said regardless the shell is still white like Grunt so I don't know.

I reckon is it grunt in both, but forget about that why would they do two groups if it was meant to be the same scene.

Not sure. I wouldn't put any more thought into the myserious Krogan. I think the top down angle is just to show how insignificant they are compared to the reaper dropping down. I think what's more interesting is the order of the flashes. Crew -> Harbinger, Normandy crash/Shepard helmet -> Harbinger. I think the white flashes are meant to seperate the parts of the vision. Not sure, I'm going to bed. Nighty night kids.

[v0rt3x22]

TSA_383 wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

any new awesome discovery I should be aware of?

I don't expect to here anything new from BioWare closer to November.

Well Leviathan's done, and is either in QA or Sony/Microsoft Certification...

So I'd say August is more likely 

Oh? Was it confirmed as complete?

[TSA_383]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

any new awesome discovery I should be aware of?

I don't expect to here anything new from BioWare closer to November.

Well Leviathan's done, and is either in QA or Sony/Microsoft Certification...

So I'd say August is more likely 

Oh? Was it confirmed as complete?

Why yes, I'll go and get official confirmation from Bioware themselves on the leaked DLC they're not allowed to talk about.

Chris Priestly said over a week ago that he'd been playing the new SP DLC content (which we know to be leviathan) as it was "finished" and a lot of the development staff (whom I follow on twitter) have been talking about QA/certification for new ME3 content 

[MaximizedAction]

TSA_383 wrote...

Why yes, I'll go and get official confirmation from Bioware themselves on the leaked DLC they're not allowed to talk about.

Why, how very leak-y of them, including dialog lines in the files that can be read by everyone who's interested enough and has a ME3 PC version. And with the internet, practically everyone can find out about it.

[TSA_383]

MaximizedAction wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Why yes, I'll go and get official confirmation from Bioware themselves on the leaked DLC they're not allowed to talk about.

Why, how very leak-y of them, including dialog lines in the files that can be read by everyone who's interested enough and has a ME3 PC version. And with the internet, practically everyone can find out about it.

The leak took what? 16 hours?

Nothing is safe from the information gathering machine we have here...