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[BansheeOwnage]

Rosewind wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Since we seem to be in a speculating mood again right now, I'll post one of my own findings.
 
Old news: For a while there was much confusion about why certain squadmates exited the Normandy on the Jungle planet. We found out it was because they were the 2 squadmates you took on the fewest missions. This fits with IT because Shepard would naturally care about them more than others and would imagine seeing them okay.

News: I haven't seen this posted yet so here it goes: I figured out the reason why 1 certain squadmate will tell Joker to leave. The reason is...

[Drumroll]

They are the squadmate you took on missions the least.

Evidence: I put this together while playing MP with BleedingUranium and CoolioThane. They confirmed my suspicions. In my playthrough it was James. I took James almost nowhere. In BLUR's playthrough, it was Ashley (same reason). In CoolioThane's playthrough he said it was Garrus and had purposely not taken Garrus many places that playthrough.
Amazing right? And it fits with IT!  Shepard sees the person she cares least about (at least in my case) tell Joker he should leave her behind.

What happens if I took everyone the least, save for 2? So far I've been picking two squadmates and sticking with them the whole available game. That way it's easier to encounter everyone's lines in each mission over multiple playthroughs. And Garrus did it on one of mine, and he wasn't the lowest.

Apparently it is disproven. Oh well. But we still need to figure out if it is just random (why?) or if there is a reason we don't know about.

But how come I always get Jarvik and I never taken him anywhere i admit I do always talk to him on the Normandy though

Guy I've been disproven already common. Don't rub it in!

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 27 juillet 2012 - 03:02 .

[jasonh10]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Since we seem to be in a speculating mood again right now, I'll post one of my own findings.
 
Old news: For a while there was much confusion about why certain squadmates exited the Normandy on the Jungle planet. We found out it was because they were the 2 squadmates you took on the fewest missions. This fits with IT because Shepard would naturally care about them more than others and would imagine seeing them okay.

News: I haven't seen this posted yet so here it goes: I figured out the reason why 1 certain squadmate will tell Joker to leave. The reason is...

[Drumroll]

They are the squadmate you took on missions the least.

Evidence: I put this together while playing MP with BleedingUranium and CoolioThane. They confirmed my suspicions. In my playthrough it was James. I took James almost nowhere. In BLUR's playthrough, it was Ashley (same reason). In CoolioThane's playthrough he said it was Garrus and had purposely not taken Garrus many places that playthrough.
Amazing right? And it fits with IT!  Shepard sees the person she cares least about (at least in my case) tell Joker he should leave her behind.

What happens if I took everyone the least, save for 2? So far I've been picking two squadmates and sticking with them the whole available game. That way it's easier to encounter everyone's lines in each mission over multiple playthroughs. And Garrus did it on one of mine, and he wasn't the lowest.

Apparently it is disproven. Oh well. But we still need to figure out if it is just random (why?) or if there is a reason we don't know about.

I remember reading somewhere that the two who emerged from the Normandy were the people you talked to the most, which in most cases would be Garrus or Javik, since they have the most convo options, and your LI.

[byne]

Haha, nice timing. Listening to music while I play the last 10 minutes, because I've heard it all so many times.

What happens to start playing right as the godchild walks up to me?

Dont Fear the Reaper.

Modifié par byne, 27 juillet 2012 - 03:04 .

[BansheeOwnage]

magnetite wrote...

What about the whole Normandy crash landing on the planet? Joker has Vrolik syndrome, where he can fracture his thumb on the mute button. When he crashed the Normandy during the Collector base mission, he claimed to have broken all his ribs. When he walks out, he does appear unharmed. Not limping or anything. Wasn't there somewhere in the trilogy that states he has to use leg braces or crutches to get around? That walking is extremely hard to do.

Weird right? Istant utopia.

[BansheeOwnage]

byne wrote...

Haha, nice timing. Listening to music while I play the last 10 minutes, because I've heard it all so many times.

What happens to start playing right as the godchild walks up to me?

Dont Fear the Reaper.

Coincidence? Probably.

Anyway, I'm gonna go eat then play some MP.

[Jadebaby]

byne wrote...
 .... if the godchild is real, its actually Sovereign's mind uploaded into the Citadel after his destruction in ME1.

omg, I had never even thought of this! AND I LOVE IT!!!!!

Did u come up with it? Or found it elsewhere?

[byne]

It was Garrus who told Joker to leave this time. I took him everywhere. Maybe its the person you bring the most, unless they were injured on the beam run?

Modifié par byne, 27 juillet 2012 - 03:12 .

[byne]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

byne wrote...
 .... if the godchild is real, its actually Sovereign's mind uploaded into the Citadel after his destruction in ME1.

omg, I had never even thought of this! AND I LOVE IT!!!!!

Did u come up with it? Or found it elsewhere?

I came up with it. I mean, I've seen other people who thought the same thing, but I didnt take the idea from them or anything, I already thought it.

[byne]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

byne wrote...

Haha, nice timing. Listening to music while I play the last 10 minutes, because I've heard it all so many times.

What happens to start playing right as the godchild walks up to me?

Dont Fear the Reaper.

Coincidence? Probably.

Anyway, I'm gonna go eat then play some MP.

Well, I just finished my SP playthrough, lemme know when you're back and we can do some MP.

I'm bored and wanna do something easy. Geth/White/Gold sound good?

Also, I'd like it if I could be host so I can play my vanguard, if you dont mind.

[Jadebaby]

SwobyJ wrote...

Remember that Harbinger plays more the role of the arrogant experimenter, and Sovereign plays the more the role of the steadfast *manipulator*.

Yes, this adds to Byne's sub-theory wonderfully. In that, synthesis, while not only representing what Saren was hoping for, was ultimately delivered upon you by the same entity that presented it to Saren.

[Jadebaby]

SwobyJ wrote...


EDI: I am going to modify my self preservation code now.

Shepard: Why?

EDI: Because the Reapers are repulsive. They are devoted to nothing but self preservation. I am different. When I think of Jeff, I think of the person who put his life in peril and freed me from a state of servitude. I would risk non-functionality for him. And my core programming should reflect that.

Shepard: Sounds like you found a little humanity EDI. Is it worth defending?

EDI: To the death.

~~~~~~~~~

EDI: If Normandy were captured, my fate would be similar to the indoctrinated. My code would be rewritten. I would become loyal to the Reapers. I would rather become non-functional than help them.

Shepard: I won't let that happen to you EDI.

EDI: You may have no choice. If you perish first, I want you to know I will never be a part of the Reaper forces. The Reapers must be defeated, not because they threaten death, but because the threat of death makes us die inside. It is the right of sapients to live freely and securely. That is worth non-functionality.


EDI: Shepard. The Normandy's survival is not strategic.



This stuff made me love her character so much, more than just the Tricia Helfer fandom-ness I had in ME2.

This is DEFINITELY not the same EDI that does the voice over for Synthesis.

[Nightingale]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Since we seem to be in a speculating mood again right now, I'll post one of my own findings.
 
Old news: For a while there was much confusion about why certain squadmates exited the Normandy on the Jungle planet. We found out it was because they were the 2 squadmates you took on the fewest missions. This fits with IT because Shepard would naturally care about them more than others and would imagine seeing them okay.

News: I haven't seen this posted yet so here it goes: I figured out the reason why 1 certain squadmate will tell Joker to leave. The reason is...

[Drumroll]

They are the squadmate you took on missions the least.

Evidence: I put this together while playing MP with BleedingUranium and CoolioThane. They confirmed my suspicions. In my playthrough it was James. I took James almost nowhere. In BLUR's playthrough, it was Ashley (same reason). In CoolioThane's playthrough he said it was Garrus and had purposely not taken Garrus many places that playthrough.
Amazing right? And it fits with IT!  Shepard sees the person she cares least about (at least in my case) tell Joker he should leave her behind.

Not to sound pessimistic, but I took Ashley with me on every mission after getting her back and she was still the one to tell Joker to fly away in my first EC run.

Edit: Sorry, it's been discussed. I'm just making it through the last couple pages now

Modifié par DrTsoni, 27 juillet 2012 - 03:23 .

[L0NEWOLF25]

SwobyJ wrote...

"After its destruction, most of Sovereign's debris rained down on the
Wards. Between rescue workers looking for survivors and the keepers
cleaning up the mess, little of Sovereign's technology could be studied.
Some turian researchers discovered that Sovereign's main gun used an
electromagnetic field to fire a stream of molten metal at a fraction of
the speed of light. These turians reverse-engineered their own version
soon after, dubbed the Thanix Cannon. However, what remained was not
enough to convince the Council that Sovereign was anything more than a
geth construct. Some pieces were recovered by Cerberus to fit into the AI onboard the new Normandy, to use as anti-Reaper algorithms."

What if EDI is actually Soveriegn!? https://encrypted-tb...mtuqHnae9v36pgA

[Nightingale]

Lokanaiya wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Since we seem to be in a speculating mood again right now, I'll post one of my own findings.
 
Old news: For a while there was much confusion about why certain squadmates exited the Normandy on the Jungle planet. We found out it was because they were the 2 squadmates you took on the fewest missions. This fits with IT because Shepard would naturally care about them more than others and would imagine seeing them okay.

News: I haven't seen this posted yet so here it goes: I figured out the reason why 1 certain squadmate will tell Joker to leave. The reason is...

[Drumroll]

They are the squadmate you took on missions the least.

Evidence: I put this together while playing MP with BleedingUranium and CoolioThane. They confirmed my suspicions. In my playthrough it was James. I took James almost nowhere. In BLUR's playthrough, it was Ashley (same reason). In CoolioThane's playthrough he said it was Garrus and had purposely not taken Garrus many places that playthrough.
Amazing right? And it fits with IT!  Shepard sees the person she cares least about (at least in my case) tell Joker he should leave her behind.

Actually, who exits on the jungle planet is related to the relationship level. That's why your LI always exits first. Garrus is my LI, I took him on every mission possible, and he exited the Normandy first. Though the second person was Javik, who was in my squad for some missions, but far less than Liara, and quite a few more than EDI. Not sure why he came out, to be honest.

That's not accurate either. It's always been Javik for me but in all but two of my runs, I literally never took him with me anywhere
I'd say it may have something to do with who you talk to the most aboard Normandy and if you visit them on the Citadel, but I always talk to everyone and it still makes no difference.

[Dam0299]

SwobyJ wrote...

Yes and I also believe that while Sovereign uses the methods of Control in order to achieve its ends, it's end goal is Synthesis.

And while Harbinger uses the methods of Synthesis in order to achieve its ends (Collectors, Human-Reaper), its end goal is Control.

I'm wondering what Leviathan will illuminate, if anything, about Reaper 'society'.

I think he (It?) was banished/defeated by the other reapers for DESTROYing one of its own kind. at least thats what i have read. could be wrong though.