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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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If the Normandy will get destroyed (according to the Starkid), yet as we find out later it's still in one piece. Engines don't break off, and they manage to fix it, and have it fly off in the EC. Kid's lying to you.

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byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

byne wrote...

Haha, nice timing. Listening to music while I play the last 10 minutes, because I've heard it all so many times.

What happens to start playing right as the godchild walks up to me?

Dont Fear the Reaper.

Coincidence? Probably. Posted Image

Anyway, I'm gonna go eat then play some MP.


Well, I just finished my SP playthrough, lemme know when you're back and we can do some MP.

I'm bored and wanna do something easy. Geth/White/Gold sound good? ;)

Also, I'd like it if I could be host so I can play my vanguard, if you dont mind. :D

I'm gonna go on now. I actually find Cerberus easier, but I'm not too particular Posted Image

Also, Jade8aby88 you can come too if you want. We could always use another friendly gun. Posted Image

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

byne wrote...

Haha, nice timing. Listening to music while I play the last 10 minutes, because I've heard it all so many times.

What happens to start playing right as the godchild walks up to me?

Dont Fear the Reaper.

Coincidence? Probably. Posted Image

Anyway, I'm gonna go eat then play some MP.


Well, I just finished my SP playthrough, lemme know when you're back and we can do some MP.

I'm bored and wanna do something easy. Geth/White/Gold sound good? ;)

Also, I'd like it if I could be host so I can play my vanguard, if you dont mind. :D

I'm gonna go on now. I actually find Cerberus easier, but I'm not too particular Posted Image

Also, Jade8aby88 you can come too if you want. We could always use another friendly gun. Posted Image


Geth are easier, I say. No Phantoms.

Also, I dont currently have a mic, so I cant talk, sadly. :(

Modifié par byne, 27 juillet 2012 - 03:40 .


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I've been thinking about how the catalyst compared the reapers to fire, and it made me realize that analogy fits very well with that "viewing the reaper itself with superstitious awe" line from the codex, because the reapers are compared to a cleansing flame.

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byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

byne wrote...

Haha, nice timing. Listening to music while I play the last 10 minutes, because I've heard it all so many times.

What happens to start playing right as the godchild walks up to me?

Dont Fear the Reaper.

Coincidence? Probably. Posted Image

Anyway, I'm gonna go eat then play some MP.


Well, I just finished my SP playthrough, lemme know when you're back and we can do some MP.

I'm bored and wanna do something easy. Geth/White/Gold sound good? ;)

Also, I'd like it if I could be host so I can play my vanguard, if you dont mind. :D

I'm gonna go on now. I actually find Cerberus easier, but I'm not too particular Posted Image

Also, Jade8aby88 you can come too if you want. We could always use another friendly gun. Posted Image


Geth are easier, I say. No Phantoms.

Also, I dont currently have a mic, so I cant talk, sadly. :(

Okay. See you there.

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Well, I'm going to go play ME3 Multiplayer. Let me know if anything new comes up.

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SwobyJ wrote...

Yes and I also believe that while Sovereign uses the methods of Control in order to achieve its ends, it's end goal is Synthesis.

And while Harbinger uses the methods of Synthesis in order to achieve its ends (Collectors, Human-Reaper), its end goal is Control.

I'm wondering what Leviathan will illuminate, if anything, about Reaper 'society'.


Well if it's a defective Reaper it could very well represent destroy...

I wonder what the Refuse Reaper would look like.....

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In 12 hours and 58 minutes we are about lauch our counter strike on the Reapers at Earth. All I can say is kill all enemys on sit. They don't fear us and will show no mercy so we shall give them no quater. So stand strong stand fast stand together.

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Okay so who here is going to play SP when the timer is about to go off because I am going to play SP when the fleets are about to arrive at Earth, so it will make the timer look like the real deal is happening. Then once Hammer lands I am going to play so MP.

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Oh and notice that what Shepard said in the beginning. " They don't fear us, and they will never take pitty on us." Well the Catalyst says other wise, don't you think?

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masster blaster wrote...

Oh and notice that what Shepard said in the beginning. " They don't fear us, and they will never take pitty on us." Well the Catalyst says other wise, don't you think?


"Preserving" us does not mean they pity us. Especially considering human milkshakes are nothing more than a power source for them.

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SwobyJ wrote...

magnetite wrote...

List of unused lines from Illusive Man conflict as well as the Catalyst

The file has been known to stutter in VLC media player for me, but try opening it in Windows Media Player or something.


This almost fits my idea that ALL three in the Citadel room are being affected by Indoctrination..

TIM the most, due to implants and lack of will.

Shepard in the middle, due to implants(?), and sustained indoctrination over time.

Anderson the least, but weakened by a strong high level of it in the room (direct control).

Or something like that. Shepard being FORCED to shoot Anderson, AT HIS WISHES. That's something we DON'T see.


Everything you wrote from my perspective is invalid because none of them were on the Citadel. Anderson and TIM are figments of Shepard's imagination while Shep fight indoctrination. They are representations of Shepard's subconscious mind. Thus, 'TIM' and 'Anderson's' level of indoctrination is meaningless.

Note: Rant on literal observations being applied to hallucinated events erased... I think I'm just tired and ****y.

Modifié par Turbo_J, 27 juillet 2012 - 04:58 .


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Turbo_J wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

magnetite wrote...

List of unused lines from Illusive Man conflict as well as the Catalyst

The file has been known to stutter in VLC media player for me, but try opening it in Windows Media Player or something.


This almost fits my idea that ALL three in the Citadel room are being affected by Indoctrination..

TIM the most, due to implants and lack of will.

Shepard in the middle, due to implants(?), and sustained indoctrination over time.

Anderson the least, but weakened by a strong high level of it in the room (direct control).

Or something like that. Shepard being FORCED to shoot Anderson, AT HIS WISHES. That's something we DON'T see.


Everything you wrote from my perspective is invalid because none of them were on the Citadel. Anderson and TIM are figments of Shepard's imagination while Shep fight indoctrination. They are representations of Shepard's subconscious mind. Thus, 'TIM' and 'Anderson's' level of indoctrination is meaningless.

Note: Rant on literal observations being applied to hallucinated events erased... I think I'm just tired and ****y.



If they represent broken parts of Shepard's mind, I think it is the opposite of meaningless.

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Just watched the Low EMS EC Destroy ending, and some of the Catalysts lines are included, although the one about forcing his dominion is not included. Normandy's engines also break off in the Low EMS ending.

Although, with Hackett's speech, kind of have to wonder where he was. If Earth got vaporized (low EMS), as well as all the ships, then how did Hackett live to tell that speech? All the soldiers on the ground were incinerated by the blast.

Modifié par magnetite, 27 juillet 2012 - 05:27 .


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Is it just me or can you hear faint whispers in the decision chamber?


I recall seeing a youtube video where the player fly cam'd towards the synthesis beam and this wierd buzzing sound was getting higher and higher in pitch the closer he got to the beam. I can't find the video :(

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Rosewind wrote...

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Has anyone noticed Miranda's speech impediment? She always says "Commando" instead of "Commander".

She's australian.



No, she is from queensland they all have horrible sounding accents over there....
SO don't drag the rest of aussie into it.


Just like 10 or 20 pages back but...
I'm from Brisbane... *single tear* :crying:

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So, anyone else think they're going to release Leviathan alongside the start of Shark Week on/around August 12th? For no reason other than Leviathan has to do with the ocean and so do Sharks...

Modifié par gunslinger_ruiz, 27 juillet 2012 - 06:46 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

magnetite wrote...

What about the whole Normandy crash landing on the planet? Joker has Vrolik syndrome, where he can fracture his thumb on the mute button. When he crashed the Normandy during the Collector base mission, he claimed to have broken all his ribs. When he walks out, he does appear unharmed. Not limping or anything. Wasn't there somewhere in the trilogy that states he has to use leg braces or crutches to get around? That walking is extremely hard to do.

Weird right? Istant utopia.Posted Image


He was walking all around the Presidium,and going to Puragotry on his own two feet all through ME3, actually, but yes, he should be finding it more difficult, especially as you died having to help him out of the cockpit in the beginning of ME2. However you helping him could have just been you forcing him to leave the ship.

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Interesting quote from Mass Effect 1...

Garrus: "So many races look up to the Protheans as paragons of civilization. But they were fooled by the Reapers just as we were. They failed."

Modifié par Bill Casey, 27 juillet 2012 - 07:19 .


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Zan51 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

magnetite wrote...

What about the whole Normandy crash landing on the planet? Joker has Vrolik syndrome, where he can fracture his thumb on the mute button. When he crashed the Normandy during the Collector base mission, he claimed to have broken all his ribs. When he walks out, he does appear unharmed. Not limping or anything. Wasn't there somewhere in the trilogy that states he has to use leg braces or crutches to get around? That walking is extremely hard to do.

Weird right? Istant utopia.Posted Image


He was walking all around the Presidium,and going to Puragotry on his own two feet all through ME3, actually, but yes, he should be finding it more difficult, especially as you died having to help him out of the cockpit in the beginning of ME2. However you helping him could have just been you forcing him to leave the ship.


Remember EDI is his "personal assistance mech" during his walks on the Citadel so he had help getting around there. I doubt though his bones would handle the crash of the Normandy on that Utopia planet.

Speaking of that planet, what the hell is it for planet? I know about the comparisions to Zaaed loyalty mission and Overlord planets, but none of those are within FTL jumping distance of Earth (unless they ran from that wave for a very long time). One would think a planet as lush and habitable as that one within easy FTL jump distance of Earth would be a prime candiate for colonization.

Off course it might be colonized and we simply dont see it, but one would think a Grade A planet like that near Earth would be mentioned at some point.

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A post wasn't here... what are you talking about? :innocent:

Modifié par AxStapleton, 27 juillet 2012 - 07:55 .


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Saw something interesting in the Cerberus logs during the Derelict Reaper mission in ME2, something like, "He's inside the dream now." But that's not it...Damn I should've screencapped it. anyone have a clip of when the Cerberus scientist talks about how "a god -- a real god -- is a verb"?

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Saw something interesting in the Cerberus logs during the Derelict Reaper mission in ME2, something like, "He's inside the dream now." But that's not it...Damn I should've screencapped it. anyone have a clip of when the Cerberus scientist talks about how "a god -- a real god -- is a verb"?


"Even a dead god can dream." Im pretty sure thats what the cerberus scientist's say.

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Dam0299 wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Saw something interesting in the Cerberus logs during the Derelict Reaper mission in ME2, something like, "He's inside the dream now." But that's not it...Damn I should've screencapped it. anyone have a clip of when the Cerberus scientist talks about how "a god -- a real god -- is a verb"?


"Even a dead god can dream." Im pretty sure thats what the cerberus scientist's say.


Well yes, I know that, but he says a good size chunk of dialogue along with it. It's the last bits that are interesting, something about how they, the scientists, dream.

Modifié par gunslinger_ruiz, 27 juillet 2012 - 08:18 .


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What if there are only a dozen reapers and thousands of strategically placed mirrors and we're actually winning the war?