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Rosewind wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

Just had a crazy thought... what if one of you is actually Casey Hudson or Mac Walters..... what if one of us is a pen name spreading speculation and keeping the ME3 mystery alive? Obviously I'm not Mac or Casey... but maybe [you] are....


I'm not even a real chicken.

So, who's going to be doing Overwatch this evening? I'd quite like to get in there early and kick its ass :lol:


I am going to start MP in like 15 minutes ... but I am pc and I have no mic (Cause I am to cheap to go buy one lol).


I would love to join you, again u/n origin smokingotter....but to summarize what simon says told me and how I played.... I kind of suck.

Keyboard....mouse...otter paws= suckage.

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Rosewind wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

Just had a crazy thought... what if one of you is actually Casey Hudson or Mac Walters..... what if one of us is a pen name spreading speculation and keeping the ME3 mystery alive? Obviously I'm not Mac or Casey... but maybe [you] are....


I'm not even a real chicken.

So, who's going to be doing Overwatch this evening? I'd quite like to get in there early and kick its ass :lol:


I am going to start MP in like 15 minutes ... but I am pc and I have no mic (Cause I am to cheap to go buy one lol).


Just pick up a cheap headset. Then you'll have the gear to listen to all the subtle audio and you can chat while being hunted by Cerberus and Reapers.

I don't think I have you in my list on Origin. I'm going to start just before the countdown hits 00:00:00. so 23 minutes.

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TSA_383 wrote...
So, who's going to be doing Overwatch this evening? I'd quite like to get in there early and kick its ass :lol:


The magic 8 ball says: The thread will move at sub-FTL speed today...

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smokingotter1 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

Just had a crazy thought... what if one of you is actually Casey Hudson or Mac Walters..... what if one of us is a pen name spreading speculation and keeping the ME3 mystery alive? Obviously I'm not Mac or Casey... but maybe [you] are....


I'm not even a real chicken.

So, who's going to be doing Overwatch this evening? I'd quite like to get in there early and kick its ass :lol:


I am going to start MP in like 15 minutes ... but I am pc and I have no mic (Cause I am to cheap to go buy one lol).


I would love to join you, again u/n origin smokingotter....but to summarize what simon says told me and how I played.... I kind of suck.

Keyboard....mouse...otter paws= suckage.


Remap your keys so they fit real time power useage better. I picked up a 5 button mouse just for ME3. I now have the entire series mapped the same way so almost never use the HUD even in single player.

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Any indoctrinationists on 360 wanna wade into MP / need an earth character (demolisher), send me a FR request, GT legaldinho.

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Well, since we're scheduling MP a little bit, I'll just put my Origin username out here so Rose and Turbo can friend me. My username on Origin is threerocks. Hopefully I'll see you two later.

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Smoking I have you on my list turbo i dont think so depends on your ID

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smokingotter1 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

Just had a crazy thought... what if one of you is actually Casey Hudson or Mac Walters..... what if one of us is a pen name spreading speculation and keeping the ME3 mystery alive? Obviously I'm not Mac or Casey... but maybe [you] are....


I'm not even a real chicken.

So, who's going to be doing Overwatch this evening? I'd quite like to get in there early and kick its ass :lol:


I am going to start MP in like 15 minutes ... but I am pc and I have no mic (Cause I am to cheap to go buy one lol).


I would love to join you, again u/n origin smokingotter....but to summarize what simon says told me and how I played.... I kind of suck.

Keyboard....mouse...otter paws= suckage.


I only play silver and I suck also, just ask Azusa ....man that sounded wrong....

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TSA_383 wrote...

So, who's going to be doing Overwatch this evening? I'd quite like to get in there early and kick its ass :lol:


I'll be online :D

Hopefully we won't get killed too much tonight.

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Rosewind wrote...

Smoking I have you on my list turbo i dont think so depends on your ID


Turbo_J67

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Turbo_J wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Smoking I have you on my list turbo i dont think so depends on your ID


Turbo_J67


and sent

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0! We have 67 hours to complete the mission! Go go go! All units kick butt! Take off every zigg! Launch fighters! Torpedoes away! All right you apes, you wanna live forever?! Destroy all monsters! Unleash hell! Go for the glory! Win it for the Gipper!

.....ok, I'm bored. But you get the idea.


On topic, though, I've been mulling over it and I can't help but feel like we've missed something in ME3.  If I kneww what, I'd've already posted it.  It feels like there's some missing link hiding just out of obvious sight.

Modifié par ZerebusPrime, 27 juillet 2012 - 05:08 .


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Hey guys I'm back after getting a ban for spamming (thanks rose ;) ) which was supposed to be lifted after 24 hours but was not so i had to message a mod, who didn't reply so i messaged another, who, after 48 hours replied to say he has told the forum heads that there was a mistake. 48 hours after that, I'm allowed back and....

And....

Wait, why does Paxx have a control sig?

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Right. Logging in now. Originid: SighmanSays

smokingotter1 wrote...

Just wait and see. Being on this forum, 100% serious there are people who are massively smarter than me period-people like Arian and Simon, byne, lexxor, and paxxton, raven, magumi, rose, and others... they believe IT for a reason...

I... I have to confess. I don't actually believe Bioware intended IT, and I don't believe they will ever confirm it. I'm not joking here. I'm here not because I expect IT to be made canon, but because you guys helped me come to terms with the disappointment I had with the ending, pre- and post-EC. Basically I'm here because Bioware failed to provide the ending I wanted. But the fans have and are continuing to build a better one, and I want to be a part of that.

Also, what a nice argumentum ad verecundiam you have there. :P

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hehe Everyone to busy playing MP to talk!!!

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Well i'm trying but i've been ignored :P

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Simon_Says wrote...

Right. Logging in now. Originid: SighmanSays

smokingotter1 wrote...

Just wait and see. Being on this forum, 100% serious there are people who are massively smarter than me period-people like Arian and Simon, byne, lexxor, and paxxton, raven, magumi, rose, and others... they believe IT for a reason...

I... I have to confess. I don't actually believe Bioware intended IT, and I don't believe they will ever confirm it. I'm not joking here. I'm here not because I expect IT to be made canon, but because you guys helped me come to terms with the disappointment I had with the ending, pre- and post-EC. Basically I'm here because Bioware failed to provide the ending I wanted. But the fans have and are continuing to build a better one, and I want to be a part of that.

Also, what a nice argumentum ad verecundiam you have there. :P

This is essentially my stance as well.

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ZerebusPrime wrote...

0! We have 67 hours to complete the mission! Go go go! All units kick butt! Take off every zigg! Launch fighters! Torpedoes away! All right you apes, you wanna live forever?! Destroy all monsters! Unleash hell! Go for the glory! Win it for the Gipper!

.....ok, I'm bored. But you get the idea.


On topic, though, I've been mulling over it and I can't help but feel like we've missed something in ME3.  If I kneww what, I'd've already posted it.  It feels like there's some missing link hiding just out of obvious sight.


I really think that we've missed lots of clues and such, especially since we only figured out a few days ago that the QEC operator was the quartermaster from ME1. We haven't figured everything out, not by a long shot. We still have to figure out exactly when the dream begins. There's a lot of evidence that points toward it being the MAKO crash before the beam run, but there's also just enough to make me doubt that....

But yes, I know what you mean. It feels like we're missing significant parts of the entire picture, and I don't just mean what would come in DLCs and such.

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Just wanted to jump in for a sec to give my opinion on the useless sound dissections. Its well know that sounds effect artist goes to use object or even scenary that arent really related to get a feeling they like to their sound tracks.

Just because the sound of a rail road are used to make an effect does not give it any meaning, because thats how sound effect works you have to use real sound then transform them into something you are looking for. Thats the art of sound effects.

This work can be attributed to any video game and movie actually ever made. We can have many more exemple in mass effect alone. The reaper sound we grow to love so much is actually just a highly modified sound of a giant garbage container door closing.

The sound for the T-rex we all learn to recognise as the beast itself even outside of jurrasik park is a combination of multiple animal and machinery combined and modified togheter.

If anything we can conclude that this train track percution beat was actually one of the good sound the artist used to make the ending sound epic. I always though it sounded pretty spot on, which is what the sound artist was most likely going for. If only the ending writing was as solid as the sound artist work.

Short: dissection of sound effects wont give IT any clue, because sound effect itself is already a more complex work, some of the effects can include many sound at the same time coming from totally unrelated object, scenary, person, etc. It cannot be dissected like the visual asset or the story itself, because those have to be completly related to the story itself, unlike the sound effects used. With sound effects only the end result matter.

Modifié par Smeffects, 27 juillet 2012 - 05:54 .


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Hey Rose, if you're still here, what's your Origin ID?

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Dwailing wrote...

Hey Rose, if you're still here, what's your Origin ID?


HOld on i will add you don't like to plaster mine about

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Simon_Says wrote...

Right. Logging in now. Originid: SighmanSays

smokingotter1 wrote...

Just wait and see. Being on this forum, 100% serious there are people who are massively smarter than me period-people like Arian and Simon, byne, lexxor, and paxxton, raven, magumi, rose, and others... they believe IT for a reason...

I... I have to confess. I don't actually believe Bioware intended IT, and I don't believe they will ever confirm it. I'm not joking here. I'm here not because I expect IT to be made canon, but because you guys helped me come to terms with the disappointment I had with the ending, pre- and post-EC. Basically I'm here because Bioware failed to provide the ending I wanted. But the fans have and are continuing to build a better one, and I want to be a part of that.

Also, what a nice argumentum ad verecundiam you have there. :P


See Simon sounds nice and intellectual right now, but if you play MP with him there is a dark sith side... here is audio I recorded from our last game, Simon was a jedi master:

Simon_says: Smoking if you could stop sucking so much that would be greeeaat.

Smokingotter: Sorry I'm ....well I'm the first part of my user name.

Simon_says: Do or do not, there is no try. Let's go to platinum.

Smokingotter: I'm...scared

Simon_says: (eyes narrow) you will be.... you will be.

(smokingotter dies in first second, simon gets highest score, extracted)

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Big_Boss9 wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

Right. Logging in now. Originid: SighmanSays

smokingotter1 wrote...

Just wait and see. Being on this forum, 100% serious there are people who are massively smarter than me period-people like Arian and Simon, byne, lexxor, and paxxton, raven, magumi, rose, and others... they believe IT for a reason...

I... I have to confess. I don't actually believe Bioware intended IT, and I don't believe they will ever confirm it. I'm not joking here. I'm here not because I expect IT to be made canon, but because you guys helped me come to terms with the disappointment I had with the ending, pre- and post-EC. Basically I'm here because Bioware failed to provide the ending I wanted. But the fans have and are continuing to build a better one, and I want to be a part of that.

Also, what a nice argumentum ad verecundiam you have there. :P

This is essentially my stance as well.


I'm personally of the opinion that they DID intend IT.  There are far too many clues that suggest it, and for all the oddities they removed in the EC, they added others that seem to hint that there's something else going on.  And besides, if anyone could pull this off, it would be BioWare.  Or Bungie.  Wait, what would happen if those two devs did a collaborative effort? Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image  The world might not survive the pure awesome.  Anyway, I say Bungie because of all the little seven references they fit into their games.  And books.  Seriously, if any of you have played a Bungie game or read a book based on a Bungie game (Both of these would presumably Halo, but Marathon counts too if you're an old school gamer.) you'll know just how complex some of the references to seven are.  And I KNOW that most of those are real.  So, the point of my comment is this.  If Bungie can pull this off, BioWare can, too.  I KNOW that the BW devs have probably played Halo, and I'm betting that they'd be familiar with the seven references.

Edit: Also, I'm just going to paraphrase Kasumi here on this topic.  The Bungie devs could pull something like this off in their sleep.  And Bioware's better.

Modifié par Dwailing, 27 juillet 2012 - 06:05 .


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Rosewind wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Hey Rose, if you're still here, what's your Origin ID?


HOld on i will add you don't like to plaster mine about


OK, I've confirmed it.

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smokingotter1 wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

Right. Logging in now. Originid: SighmanSays

smokingotter1 wrote...

Just wait and see. Being on this forum, 100% serious there are people who are massively smarter than me period-people like Arian and Simon, byne, lexxor, and paxxton, raven, magumi, rose, and others... they believe IT for a reason...

I... I have to confess. I don't actually believe Bioware intended IT, and I don't believe they will ever confirm it. I'm not joking here. I'm here not because I expect IT to be made canon, but because you guys helped me come to terms with the disappointment I had with the ending, pre- and post-EC. Basically I'm here because Bioware failed to provide the ending I wanted. But the fans have and are continuing to build a better one, and I want to be a part of that.

Also, what a nice argumentum ad verecundiam you have there. :P


See Simon sounds nice and intellectual right now, but if you play MP with him there is a dark sith side... here is audio I recorded from our last game, Simon was a jedi master:

Simon_says: Smoking if you could stop sucking so much that would be greeeaat.

Smokingotter: Sorry I'm ....well I'm the first part of my user name.

Simon_says: Do or do not, there is no try. Let's go to platinum.

Smokingotter: I'm...scared

Simon_says: (eyes narrow) you will be.... you will be.

(smokingotter dies in first second, simon gets highest score, extracted)




People actually beat platinum....