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Byne I understand what you say and yes it makes no sense what so ever *snip*

LOL. masster blaster wins the contest for the funniest comment of the day.

No offense, byne.

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masster blaster wrote...

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

I know lots of people have said this but mainly all the fans hate ME3's ending is because of The NORMANDY and the GOD Child.


No, its more because the endings make no damned sense.

If those two things were included in a sensible way, I doubt people would hate it as much.


Byne I understand what you say and yes it makes no sense what so ever but I can not see the Normandy run away from a fight and since Ash, and Garrus family's where on the Citidle the they would have vengance espcially Javik since we would rather die than run from the Reapers again.


'Tis why I said if they handled it in a sensible way.

Like, if they bothered giving some believable explanation for why the Normandy is fleeing.

I wasnt saying the current way the handled the Normandy made any sense at all.

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Oh and I hate that the Citidle got taken over by the Reapers. So Ash, and Garrus's family's are dead not to include Baily the Council, everyone we helped on the citidle, and the Citidle defense for could not even help some people escape, or holed off the Repear forces long enof for the fleets to arrive and save the day. Also why did we listen to that prothien AI talk, or VI. It was hacked by the Illusive man and he could have the real info about the Crucible/catalyst, and given Shepard false info about the Crucible/catalyst.

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byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

I know lots of people have said this but mainly all the fans hate ME3's ending is because of The NORMANDY and the GOD Child.


No, its more because the endings make no damned sense.

If those two things were included in a sensible way, I doubt people would hate it as much.


Byne I understand what you say and yes it makes no sense what so ever but I can not see the Normandy run away from a fight and since Ash, and Garrus family's where on the Citidle the they would have vengance espcially Javik since we would rather die than run from the Reapers again.


'Tis why I said if they handled it in a sensible way.

Like, if they bothered giving some believable explanation for why the Normandy is fleeing.

I wasnt saying the current way the handled the Normandy made any sense at all.


Oh when you put it that way.....

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Oh and I hate that the Citidle got taken over by the Reapers. So Ash, and Garrus's family's are dead not to include Baily the Council, everyone we helped on the citidle, and the Citidle defense for could not even help some people escape, or holed off the Repear forces long enof for the fleets to arrive and save the day. Also why did we listen to that prothien AI talk, or VI. It was hacked by the Illusive man and he could have the real info about the Crucible/catalyst, and given Shepard false info about the Crucible/catalyst.


Where exactly are you getting the idea that Garrus' family is on the Citadel? All I remember is that Garrus' family made it off Palaven, not that they ever went to the Citadel. I could be wrong though.

As for Ash's family, it was only ever her sister on the Citadel. Pretty sure the rest was trapped on Earth.

Plus according to a tweet from someone at Bioware, all the important people on the Citadel apparently survived.

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masster blaster wrote...

Oh and I hate that the Citidle got taken over by the Reapers. So Ash, and Garrus's family's are dead not to include Baily the Council, everyone we helped on the citidle, and the Citidle defense for could not even help some people escape, or holed off the Repear forces long enof for the fleets to arrive and save the day. Also why did we listen to that prothien AI talk, or VI. It was hacked by the Illusive man and he could have the real info about the Crucible/catalyst, and given Shepard false info about the Crucible/catalyst.


I think 150 pages of this thread has been dedicated to the last two lines of this quote.

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byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Oh and I hate that the Citidle got taken over by the Reapers. So Ash, and Garrus's family's are dead not to include Baily the Council, everyone we helped on the citidle, and the Citidle defense for could not even help some people escape, or holed off the Repear forces long enof for the fleets to arrive and save the day. Also why did we listen to that prothien AI talk, or VI. It was hacked by the Illusive man and he could have the real info about the Crucible/catalyst, and given Shepard false info about the Crucible/catalyst.


Where exactly are you getting the idea that Garrus' family is on the Citadel? All I remember is that Garrus' family made it off Palaven, not that they ever went to the Citadel. I could be wrong though.

As for Ash's family, it was only ever her sister on the Citadel. Pretty sure the rest was trapped on Earth.

Plus according to a tweet from someone at Bioware, all the important people on the Citadel apparently survived.


Well if they did survive then great! But WHY did they Not help Shepard I mean F*** they could help Shepard when he was trapped with the Illusive man and Baily could have shot the Illusive man in the head and could have been there for Shepard and save Anderson, which I don't belive he can die from a bullet to the side. ANd mabye they could have had that first Turinen Counciler and he could say to the Child " Ah Yes The  God Child. I Am I Suppost To Belive What You Say Brat."

Modifié par masster blaster, 24 mai 2012 - 01:32 .


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Did he say Citidle?




....brilliant

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masster blaster wrote...

Well if they did survive then great! But WHY did they Not help Shepard I mean F*** they could help Shepard when he was trapped with the Illusive man and Baily could have shot the Illusive man in the head and could have been there for Shepard and save Anderson, which I don't belive he can die from a bullet to the side.


Because its all in Shepard's mind, silly!

Did you forget which thread this was? ;)

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Btw if the soundfiles are named accurately Shep dies in neither ending if you've got enough EMS.
cineanim_end02_epilogue_shepdead only plays with insufficient EMS (when no one leaves the Normandy) with sufficient EMS cineanim_end02_epilogue_intro plays instead.

Thinking of it it could actually explain the difference in the Guardian's behavior:
Why are you here? <- Shep is as good as dead, so why does he still resist.
Wake up. <- You're not dead, so wake up Shep :D

patronizing comments <- Shep dies, as any Reaper told her, dust struggling against cosmic winds.

You have choice/hope. More than you know/think. <- Shep is not dead, only badly wounded.
You don't need hope./You have choice. More than you deserve. <- Shep dies anyway but can still try to struggle.


Btw literal interpretation of the last remark "You have choice. More than you deserve." is impossible as "The path is open. There is only one way ahead."

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masster blaster wrote...

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Oh and I hate that the Citidle got taken over by the Reapers. So Ash, and Garrus's family's are dead not to include Baily the Council, everyone we helped on the citidle, and the Citidle defense for could not even help some people escape, or holed off the Repear forces long enof for the fleets to arrive and save the day. Also why did we listen to that prothien AI talk, or VI. It was hacked by the Illusive man and he could have the real info about the Crucible/catalyst, and given Shepard false info about the Crucible/catalyst.


Where exactly are you getting the idea that Garrus' family is on the Citadel? All I remember is that Garrus' family made it off Palaven, not that they ever went to the Citadel. I could be wrong though.

As for Ash's family, it was only ever her sister on the Citadel. Pretty sure the rest was trapped on Earth.

Plus according to a tweet from someone at Bioware, all the important people on the Citadel apparently survived.


Well if they did survive then great! But WHY did they Not help Shepard I mean F*** they could help Shepard when he was trapped with the Illusive man and Baily could have shot the Illusive man in the head and could have been there for Shepard and save Anderson, which I don't belive he can die from a bullet to the side. ANd mabye they could have had that first Turinen Counciler and he could say to the Child " Ah Yes The  God Child. I Am I Suppost To Belive What You Say Brat."


He is called "ReaperBieber the Starbinger", and he lives on the citidle.

Modifié par dmay7, 24 mai 2012 - 01:33 .


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Mcfly616 wrote...

Did he say Citidle?




....brilliant


Sorry I left the A out and put an I insted of an A

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byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Well if they did survive then great! But WHY did they Not help Shepard I mean F*** they could help Shepard when he was trapped with the Illusive man and Baily could have shot the Illusive man in the head and could have been there for Shepard and save Anderson, which I don't belive he can die from a bullet to the side.


Because its all in Shepard's mind, silly!

Did you forget which thread this was? ;)


Ya but Andersons death just hate it.

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masster blaster, if you could please proofread your posts for spelling and grammar before posting them, we'd appreciate it. This discussion is not only for us but for those who are simply reading/browsing and are curious about the Indoctrination Theory. Posts that are difficult to comprehend are somewhat counterproductive.

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HellishFiend wrote...

masster blaster, if you could please proofread your posts for spelling and grammar before posting them, we'd appreciate it. This discussion is not only for us but for those who are simply reading/browsing and are curious about the Indoctrination Theory. Posts that are difficult to comprehend are somewhat counterproductive.


Sorry I am typeing and laughing at American Pie, but kk.

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HellishFiend wrote...

masster blaster, if you could please proofread your posts for spelling and grammar before posting them, we'd appreciate it. This discussion is not only for us but for those who are simply reading/browsing and are curious about the Indoctrination Theory. Posts that are difficult to comprehend are somewhat counterproductive.


Well, english might not be his first language, to be fair.

I mean, I'm generally a grammar and spelling National Socialist, but I can let it slide if english isnt his first language.

Edit: Forgot the shortform of National Socialist was censored

Modifié par byne, 24 mai 2012 - 01:37 .


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byne wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

masster blaster, if you could please proofread your posts for spelling and grammar before posting them, we'd appreciate it. This discussion is not only for us but for those who are simply reading/browsing and are curious about the Indoctrination Theory. Posts that are difficult to comprehend are somewhat counterproductive.


Well, english might not be his first language, to be fair.

I mean, I'm generally a grammar and spelling National Socialist, but I can let it slide if english isnt his first language.

Edit: Forgot the shortform of National Socialist was censored

Hum English is my first language and yes I have a problem with spelling and grammer but I mean well so sorry. Plus I am watching American Pie Wedding.

Modifié par masster blaster, 24 mai 2012 - 01:41 .


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To clarify what I have been saying I just don't believe everything that has happened at the last ten minutes of the ME3 ending.

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byne wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

masster blaster, if you could please proofread your posts for spelling and grammar before posting them, we'd appreciate it. This discussion is not only for us but for those who are simply reading/browsing and are curious about the Indoctrination Theory. Posts that are difficult to comprehend are somewhat counterproductive.


Well, english might not be his first language, to be fair.

I mean, I'm generally a grammar and spelling National Socialist, but I can let it slide if english isnt his first language.

Edit: Forgot the shortform of National Socialist was censored


Spelling National Socialist? I am SO using this for the rest of my life.

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To clarify what I have been saying I just don't believe everything that has happened at the last ten minutes of the ME3 ending.


None of the regular posters here believe the last 10 minutes really happened. 
:lol:

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byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

I know lots of people have said this but mainly all the fans hate ME3's ending is because of The NORMANDY and the GOD Child.


No, its more because the endings make no damned sense.

If those two things were included in a sensible way, I doubt people would hate it as much.


Byne I understand what you say and yes it makes no sense what so ever but I can not see the Normandy run away from a fight and since Ash, and Garrus family's where on the Citidle the they would have vengance espcially Javik since we would rather die than run from the Reapers again.


'Tis why I said if they handled it in a sensible way.

Like, if they bothered giving some believable explanation for why the Normandy is fleeing.

I wasnt saying the current way the handled the Normandy made any sense at all.

There is no sensible reason for the Normandy to flee without her captain.  That's just retarded.

The only excuse would have to be that the Normandy was not fleeing at all.  It would have to be attacking something.  A very important something.

That, or the whole crew was deep in the throes of the indoctrination process.

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HellishFiend wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

To clarify what I have been saying I just don't believe everything that has happened at the last ten minutes of the ME3 ending.


None of the regular posters here believe the last 10 minutes really happened. 
:lol:

But in Shepards mind right, or no.

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masster blaster wrote...


But in Shepards mind right, or no.


Yes, in Shepard's mind. 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 24 mai 2012 - 01:51 .


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hoodaticus wrote...

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

I know lots of people have said this but mainly all the fans hate ME3's ending is because of The NORMANDY and the GOD Child.


No, its more because the endings make no damned sense.

If those two things were included in a sensible way, I doubt people would hate it as much.


Byne I understand what you say and yes it makes no sense what so ever but I can not see the Normandy run away from a fight and since Ash, and Garrus family's where on the Citidle the they would have vengance espcially Javik since we would rather die than run from the Reapers again.


'Tis why I said if they handled it in a sensible way.

Like, if they bothered giving some believable explanation for why the Normandy is fleeing.

I wasnt saying the current way the handled the Normandy made any sense at all.

There is no sensible reason for the Normandy to flee without her captain.  That's just retarded.

The only excuse would have to be that the Normandy was not fleeing at all.  It would have to be attacking something.  A very important something.


That's like Chewbacca leaving Han Solo behind. Or Spock leaving Kirk. Or Chief leaving Cortana (He came back for her), Normandy would NEVER leave Shepard behind without a good reason...a DAMNED good reason. Hell Joker took his Vrolik Syndrom butt and was kicking Collector butt trying to save Shepard from the Collectors.

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hoodaticus wrote...

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

I know lots of people have said this but mainly all the fans hate ME3's ending is because of The NORMANDY and the GOD Child.


No, its more because the endings make no damned sense.

If those two things were included in a sensible way, I doubt people would hate it as much.



Byne I understand what you say and yes it makes no sense what so ever but I can not see the Normandy run away from a fight and since Ash, and Garrus family's where on the Citidle the they would have vengance espcially Javik since we would rather die than run from the Reapers again.


'Tis why I said if they handled it in a sensible way.

Like, if they bothered giving some believable explanation for why the Normandy is fleeing.

I wasnt saying the current way the handled the Normandy made any sense at all.

There is no sensible reason for the Normandy to flee without her captain.  That's just retarded.

The only excuse would have to be that the Normandy was not fleeing at all.  It would have to be attacking something.  A very important something.

Or they just went to go get Shepard in some Far Far away Planet in some Far way Galaxy Far Far away.

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