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[Ageless Face]

DJBare wrote...
I don't trust destroy either, let's take the reapers interest in Shepard, particularly their option to take Shepard alive, it's not a priority but it is something they wanted, what if destroy actually destroys Shepard's mind, basically Shepard becomes a husk, now if we consider that a living Shepard merged with the reapers would be more useful to them, then destroy would annoy them.
Keep in mind I'm looking at this from the perspective that everything that takes place in the decision chamber is in Shepard's own mind, the reapers are in there too trying to take control of Shepard without damaging his/her brain.

I admit, I rather like this version of IT 

BansheeOwnage wrote...
I said just because Shepard broke the indoc attempt doesn't mean he/she has to wake up immediately...

Right, but why? Why wouldn't Shepard wake up immidietly if s/he resisted?

Modifié par HagarIshay, 28 juillet 2012 - 06:35 .

[JasonSic]

smokingotter1 wrote...

Time to grasp at some straws....
When you see the kid at the beginning of ME3 he has a kind of dream halo outline like thing around him in some of the scenes:

-snip-

So, the outline disapears as soon as the kid isn't in the shot?
If so, that's compelling.

[TheConstantOne]

Rosewind wrote...

TheConstantOne wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Not everyone can see what is front of them they choose to look away and ignore what lies in front of them.

Edit: Hehehe sorry in a bit of a crazy philosophical mood tonight.

Haha no need to apologize. Those are the moods when you figure out something truly grandiose

only thing running around in my head at the moment is "Trolololololooo" song

Well...not every thought has to be groundbreaking

[BansheeOwnage]

HagarIshay wrote...

DJBare wrote...
I don't trust destroy either, let's take the reapers interest in Shepard, particularly their option to take Shepard alive, it's not a priority but it is something they wanted, what if destroy actually destroys Shepard's mind, basically Shepard becomes a husk, now if we consider that a living Shepard merged with the reapers would be more useful to them, then destroy would annoy them.
Keep in mind I'm looking at this from the perspective that everything that takes place in the decision chamber is in Shepard's own mind, the reapers are in there too trying to take control of Shepard without damaging his/her brain.

I admit, I rather like this version of IT 

BansheeOwnage wrote...
I said just because Shepard broke the indoc attempt doesn't mean he/she has to wake up immediately...

Right, but why?

Probably because indoctrination doesn't make people go unconscious, and likewise doesn't wake them up. Shepard would most likely be knocked out by an external factor (APC crash, Harbinger's beam) as in the breath scene Shep's armour is a little worse for wear. When Shep wakes up, she will either be indoctrinated (as I see no reason for indoc killing her) or not indoctrinated. Queue appropriate consequences.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 28 juillet 2012 - 06:37 .

[MegumiAzusa]

smokingotter1 wrote...

Time to grasp at some straws....
When you see the kid at the beginning of ME3 he has a kind of dream halo outline like thing around him in some of the scenes:



Edit: Omg it really becomes obvious in this scene.... how have I missed this for so long?!

Can't see anything oO

[smokingotter1]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Wow we really do talk about everything at the same time as discussing IT. From politics to religion to philosophy to lesbians, it's all here.

Just means we are getting closer to the truth...  all good theories eventually reach critical mass called the lesbian sigularity.

Trust me I'm an otter.

[BansheeOwnage]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

Time to grasp at some straws....
When you see the kid at the beginning of ME3 he has a kind of dream halo outline like thing around him in some of the scenes:



Edit: Omg it really becomes obvious in this scene.... how have I missed this for so long?!

Can't see anything oO

I can't either...

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

HagarIshay wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...
Things to note:

-The catalyst disappears as soon as you shoot the tube (in the other two endings it lingers).
-As you continue shooting the tube, the sound gets more and more reverb and you get a bass "rushing" kind of effect, much like you have when coming around from dream sequences in movies and such.
-If you have enough EMS, you DO wake up. Destroy is the only ending that you can survive, even if we take the endings at face value (and I don't).

Then there's the whole thing with those two random soldiers seeming to have more fight in them in the destroy ending than in the others which is as-yet unexplained but surely means something as it's an entire new FMV that it doesn't make sense to have made...

But if Shepard went of and blowed the reapers up, it means that they don't have their hold on Shepard. All the Normandy's cutscenes, the soldiers on Earth, Hackett's monologue shouldn't exist. It should right away go to Shepard waking up. If Shepard resisted the reapers, why is the hallucination they planted still going on?

Meta reason: Because skipping straight to the breath scene following picking destroy and then credits without showing the epilogue would be just about the same as confirming Indoctrination.

Not so meta reason: It has been wondered that the hallucination that follows is build more by Shepard than the Reapers, that he is imagining a good outcome for his crew in his weakened state. This off course is heavily disputed by Reject having nothing of the kind. 

But another possibility is that the Reapers are still trying to break Shepard. Even if he escapes once, he is not out of the danger zone with indoctrination, he just needs more time. Showing him a vision of him winning before he snaps back to reality could be a way of breaking his spirit.

Also something that is always interesting to note is that the Breath Scene happens after the entire Epilogue and "Paradise Planet" scenes.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 28 juillet 2012 - 06:41 .

[smokingotter1]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

Time to grasp at some straws....
When you see the kid at the beginning of ME3 he has a kind of dream halo outline like thing around him in some of the scenes:



Edit: Omg it really becomes obvious in this scene.... how have I missed this for so long?!

Can't see anything oO

If you watch the beginning with this clip I saw it....but like I said might be straw clutching.

[estebanus]

HagarIshay wrote...

DJBare wrote...
I don't trust destroy either, let's take the reapers interest in Shepard, particularly their option to take Shepard alive, it's not a priority but it is something they wanted, what if destroy actually destroys Shepard's mind, basically Shepard becomes a husk, now if we consider that a living Shepard merged with the reapers would be more useful to them, then destroy would annoy them.
Keep in mind I'm looking at this from the perspective that everything that takes place in the decision chamber is in Shepard's own mind, the reapers are in there too trying to take control of Shepard without damaging his/her brain.

I admit, I rather like this version of IT 

BansheeOwnage wrote...
I said just because Shepard broke the indoc attempt doesn't mean he/she has to wake up immediately...

Right, but why? Why wouldn't Shepard wake up immidietly if s/he resisted?

Maybe because Shepard was just laz0red by a beam with the power to destroy a cruiser with one hit?

[BansheeOwnage]

smokingotter1 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Wow we really do talk about everything at the same time as discussing IT. From politics to religion to philosophy to lesbians, it's all here.

Just means we are getting closer to the truth...  all good theories eventually reach critical mass called the lesbian sigularity.

Trust me I'm an otter.

So basically, because of lesbians, IT will soon be revealed!  (Trust me I'm a Banshee.)

[estebanus]

smokingotter1 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

Time to grasp at some straws....
When you see the kid at the beginning of ME3 he has a kind of dream halo outline like thing around him in some of the scenes:



Edit: Omg it really becomes obvious in this scene.... how have I missed this for so long?!

Can't see anything oO

If you watch the beginning with this clip I saw it....but like I said might be straw clutching.

Wat dafuq

[MaximizedAction]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Wow we really do talk about everything at the same time as discussing IT. From politics to religion to philosophy to lesbians, it's all here.

This thread is like an outsourced 4chan thread.

[Arashi08]

jgibson14352 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

JasonSic wrote...

XanderLav wrote...

Hey, so..... this timer up top. it ends on Tuesday if my calculations are right. It would be very cool is BW releases something on Tuesday. PSN updates on Tuesdays. Anybody knows if previous dlc for ME3 were released on Tuesday or not? It's pretty late ad I'm about to fall asleep. Just thought of it and decided to share with you.

Extended Cut - June 26 - Tuesday
Earth - July 17 - Tuesday
Rebellion - May 29 - Tuesday
Resurgence - April 10 - Tuesday
From Ashes - March 6 - Tuesday

EDIT: The timer ends on Monday morning like all the other OPs.

march 6, ME3 release, tuesday

its not a deal at all though, ALL videogame media and most other forms of media release on tuesdays.
ill bet nobody here can find an official video game release date that isnt on a tuesday. dont look too much into that.

Wow Doc, this is heavy...

Command & Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars, March 28, 2007 (Wednesday)
First try.
Command & Conquer 3: Kane's Wrath, March 24, 2008 (Monday)
Second try.

do you live in europe? naturally the release dates would be different there. if not, then i overgeneralized, but still, thatd be 2 against who knows how many

More recently, Skyrim came out on friday

[GethPrimeMKII]

smokingotter1 wrote...

Time to grasp at some straws....
When you see the kid at the beginning of ME3 he has a kind of dream halo outline like thing around him in some of the scenes:



Edit: Omg it really becomes obvious in this scene.... how have I missed this for so long?!

Hadn't it already been confirmed that there are several cutscenes in ME3 with those borders?

[estebanus]

Great guys, just keep on with your (lesbian) perversions. I'm literally falling off my chair laughing here.

Modifié par estebanus, 28 juillet 2012 - 06:43 .

[TheConstantOne]

DJBare wrote...
I don't trust destroy either, let's take the reapers interest in Shepard, particularly their option to take Shepard alive, it's not a priority but it is something they wanted, what if destroy actually destroys Shepard's mind, basically Shepard becomes a husk, now if we consider that a living Shepard merged with the reapers would be more useful to them, then destroy would annoy them.
Keep in mind I'm looking at this from the perspective that everything that takes place in the decision chamber is in Shepard's own mind, the reapers are in there too trying to take control of Shepard without damaging his/her brain.

Very interesting take on destroy. Back when the endings were first revealed to the world, I played with the idea of destroy causing Shep's synthetic components to die but organic parts to live in order to justify the significance of the synthesis choice.

With all the time that has passed since these initial speculations, I'm in the camp that destroy is breaking free of indoc.  I'd say that the new refusal ending plays a role similar to what you're describing:  if this is in Shepard's mind, then choosing not to act at all on what is before him/her, especially since one of those options is a way out created by his/her mind, then Shepard is basically giving up the fight and faces the death of the mind and, quite possibly, of the body as well

[BansheeOwnage]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
Also something that is always interesting to note is that the Breath Scene happens after the entire Epilogue and "Paradise Planet" scenes.

That, and the fact that (correct me if I'm wrong) the breath scene requires more EMS than synthesis. So EC lowered the required EMS to get the "best" ending from 6200 to 3100, than Destroy is the "best" ending.

[MaximizedAction]

smokingotter1 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

Time to grasp at some straws....
When you see the kid at the beginning of ME3 he has a kind of dream halo outline like thing around him in some of the scenes:



Edit: Omg it really becomes obvious in this scene.... how have I missed this for so long?!

Can't see anything oO

If you watch the beginning with this clip I saw it....but like I said might be straw clutching.

I only see the dust. But no halo...hm

EDIT:
Oh, those red lines are supposed to point outwards...arrows would've been more helpful.
Yeah, we already discussed those, and they are present in every cutscene and cinematic. Sometimes maybe more, but I didn't notice any patterns.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 28 juillet 2012 - 06:46 .

[Chriz Tah Fah]

smokingotter1 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

Time to grasp at some straws....
When you see the kid at the beginning of ME3 he has a kind of dream halo outline like thing around him in some of the scenes:



Edit: Omg it really becomes obvious in this scene.... how have I missed this for so long?!

Can't see anything oO

If you watch the beginning with this clip I saw it....but like I said might be straw clutching.

OIC. The four corners of the screen are pulsing "oily shadows."

[Ageless Face]

BansheeOwnage wrote...
Probably because indoctrination doesn't make people go unconscious, and likewise doesn't wake them up. Shepard would most likely be knocked out by an external factor (APC crash, Harbinger's beam) as in the breath scene Shep's armour is a little worse for wear. When Shep wakes up, she will either be indoctrinated (as I see no reason for indoc killing her) or not indoctrinated. Queue appropriate consequences.

I'm maybe not following, but doesn't this means the hallucination wasn't planted by the reapers anyway?

[Rosewind]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

Time to grasp at some straws....
When you see the kid at the beginning of ME3 he has a kind of dream halo outline like thing around him in some of the scenes:



Edit: Omg it really becomes obvious in this scene.... how have I missed this for so long?!

Hadn't it already been confirmed that there are several cutscenes in ME3 with those borders?

OHHHH Now I see what he talking about, it's a slight vignetting of the border lol *facepalm* halo lol

[BansheeOwnage]

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

Time to grasp at some straws....
When you see the kid at the beginning of ME3 he has a kind of dream halo outline like thing around him in some of the scenes:



Edit: Omg it really becomes obvious in this scene.... how have I missed this for so long?!

Can't see anything oO

If you watch the beginning with this clip I saw it....but like I said might be straw clutching.

OIC. The four corners of the screen are pulsing "oily shadows."

Jesus I didn't see that and there are arrows pointing to them. Not one of my finer moments.

Edit: I don't think it means much, if anything though.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 28 juillet 2012 - 06:47 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

TheConstantOne wrote...

DJBare wrote...
I don't trust destroy either, let's take the reapers interest in Shepard, particularly their option to take Shepard alive, it's not a priority but it is something they wanted, what if destroy actually destroys Shepard's mind, basically Shepard becomes a husk, now if we consider that a living Shepard merged with the reapers would be more useful to them, then destroy would annoy them.
Keep in mind I'm looking at this from the perspective that everything that takes place in the decision chamber is in Shepard's own mind, the reapers are in there too trying to take control of Shepard without damaging his/her brain.

Very interesting take on destroy. Back when the endings were first revealed to the world, I played with the idea of destroy causing Shep's synthetic components to die but organic parts to live in order to justify the significance of the synthesis choice.

With all the time that has passed since these initial speculations, I'm in the camp that destroy is breaking free of indoc.  I'd say that the new refusal ending plays a role similar to what you're describing:  if this is in Shepard's mind, then choosing not to act at all on what is before him/her, especially since one of those options is a way out created by his/her mind, then Shepard is basically giving up the fight and faces the death of the mind and, quite possibly, of the body as well

An interesting think to note on the reject ending if we take it as Shepards mind breaking under the pressure, then the Crucible shutting down and the light disappearing from the area where Shepard is could very well be a representation of Shepards mind going dark, dying.

Just a though to add.

[estebanus]

HagarIshay wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
Probably because indoctrination doesn't make people go unconscious, and likewise doesn't wake them up. Shepard would most likely be knocked out by an external factor (APC crash, Harbinger's beam) as in the breath scene Shep's armour is a little worse for wear. When Shep wakes up, she will either be indoctrinated (as I see no reason for indoc killing her) or not indoctrinated. Queue appropriate consequences.

I'm maybe not following, but doesn't this means the hallucination wasn't planted by the reapers anyway?

No, it means that the reapers used Shepard's unconscious state and now weakened mind to implant the hallucination.