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[Arian Dynas]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

byne wrote...

I never really cared for Jacob, but I find it kind of weird that BioWare decided to make the black guy the one who runs off, cheats on you, and knocks up another woman. Stereotypes are fun!

Also:

Shep: How long have you known Brynn?
Jacob: About a year now.

Shep was only in lockdown for six months...

But he worked for Cerberus before going of with Shepard against the Collectors. He might have known Brynn from his earlier work within Cerberus.

AUGH! RAIST! What happened to your avatar!? 

[BansheeOwnage]

byne wrote...

I found my old explanation of the ME3 endings!

"I must kill the Reapers!"
"No, Shepard! You ARE the Reapers!"
And then everyone was robots.

And it still fits with the EC!

Hopefully people actually understand the reference...

I've seen it before, but I must confess I don't know where it was from originally.

[Arian Dynas]

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

After the talk people could ask questions, and he started derpherping about how the lack of experimental validation for String theory "risks the intelligence of 7 billion people on Earth" and how the scientist giving the talk was playing "dangerous mathematical games".

Reminded me of the attention seeking trolls that come here once in a while to tell us how crazy we are.

...

Uh... actually most theoretical physicists DON'T use string theory anymore.

We've got 'brane theory now. Instead of strings, the universe is made of rippling membranes, giving rise to the ekonpyretic universe model.

"You're playing dangerous mathematical games!" sounds like the line that would come right before a string  of massive explosions in a trailer for a mathematics based apocalypse movie.

...

...directed by Michael Bay.

[Leonia]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

btw I always wondered why no one commented on some of Harbingers lines, I mean he's throwing them out 24/7 and it's like no one hears him. Especially in the last bit where Harbinger speaks through the Seeker Swarm, I don't think they would be capable to produce that if they don't directly project it into Shepard's mind.

That's a good point, always bothered me in ME2 when Harbinger was taunting away and not one squad-mate said "Hey why does that thing know your name, Shepard?"

[estebanus]

Does anyone want to play some MP with me?

[BansheeOwnage]

estebanus wrote...

Does anyone want to play some MP with me?

I do!

[Ageless Face]

Arian Dynas wrote...
Indoctrination. It's right there in the name.

Indoctrination is NOT mind control, which Control would be, Shepard "surrenders his body" losing everything he has for the delusion of control, just like the Illusive Man. He's a less useful thrall like that.

Synthesis is Shepard aligning himself to THEIR view, becoming "indoctrinated" to their own doctrine. Their philosophy.

Indoctrination isn't insidious because it makes you do things you don't want to do.

It's insidious because it makes you WANT to do them.

Shepard is also less useful to them in low Control. He basically flunked everything, he's worthless to them, he failed to unite the galaxy, gave in to the pressures of others in preserving the Collector base, he's basically worthless as far as they see him. At higher EMS he's a prize to be won, at lower EMS, he's a failure to mercifully end.

He says he's not thrilled about it. But if that's the case, why offer Shepard the choice at all? He does nothing to stop him.

But either way, I advise you read this; 
http://social.biowar...3/2141#11952209 

Thanks for the answer.

Just having one question- the bolded part.

In this case, why does the catalyst offers destroy to Shepard if he doesn't want Shepard to choose it?

[MegumiAzusa]

leonia42 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

btw I always wondered why no one commented on some of Harbingers lines, I mean he's throwing them out 24/7 and it's like no one hears him. Especially in the last bit where Harbinger speaks through the Seeker Swarm, I don't think they would be capable to produce that if they don't directly project it into Shepard's mind.

That's a good point, always bothered me in ME2 when Harbinger was taunting away and not one squad-mate said "Hey why does that thing know your name, Shepard?"

"Ah we're old buddies who texted over the extranet."

[estebanus]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Does anyone want to play some MP with me?

I do!

PC?

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Arian Dynas wrote...

AUGH! RAIST! What happened to your avatar!? 

Needed something new, that old Salarian "are you ****ing kidding me" face (seriously it reminded me of that) was getting old.

So now I dug into an old passion of mine, Dragons. After all Dragons always get the ladies (wether the ladies want to or not) so I am of to kidnap a Princess or three...do you guys think the Reapers have any Princesses?

...

Oh god...

Weird random stuff incomming: I think I figured out the Catalyst true Identity.

It is a princess, a Reaper princess on her quest to create the perfect male. That is why the reapers are harvesting, they are trying to create the perfect man for their Princess and they think they finally found what is needed in Shepard.

That is why the Catalyst wnats Shepard to pick Synthesis so badly...if you know what I mean

...

Who here thinks I should go to bed? Raise your hand

[BansheeOwnage]

HagarIshay wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...
Indoctrination. It's right there in the name.

Indoctrination is NOT mind control, which Control would be, Shepard "surrenders his body" losing everything he has for the delusion of control, just like the Illusive Man. He's a less useful thrall like that.

Synthesis is Shepard aligning himself to THEIR view, becoming "indoctrinated" to their own doctrine. Their philosophy.

Indoctrination isn't insidious because it makes you do things you don't want to do.

It's insidious because it makes you WANT to do them.

Shepard is also less useful to them in low Control. He basically flunked everything, he's worthless to them, he failed to unite the galaxy, gave in to the pressures of others in preserving the Collector base, he's basically worthless as far as they see him. At higher EMS he's a prize to be won, at lower EMS, he's a failure to mercifully end.

He says he's not thrilled about it. But if that's the case, why offer Shepard the choice at all? He does nothing to stop him.

But either way, I advise you read this; 
http://social.biowar...3/2141#11952209 

Thanks for the answer.

Just having one question- the bolded part.

In this case, why does the catalyst offers destroy to Shepard if he doesn't want Shepard to choose it?

Because the "catalyst" doesn't actually exist. It's just a projection of Shepard's subconscious, combined with indoc signals. So it's really Shepard's subconscious that gives her that option.

[estebanus]

HagarIshay wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...
Indoctrination. It's right there in the name.

Indoctrination is NOT mind control, which Control would be, Shepard "surrenders his body" losing everything he has for the delusion of control, just like the Illusive Man. He's a less useful thrall like that.

Synthesis is Shepard aligning himself to THEIR view, becoming "indoctrinated" to their own doctrine. Their philosophy.

Indoctrination isn't insidious because it makes you do things you don't want to do.

It's insidious because it makes you WANT to do them.

Shepard is also less useful to them in low Control. He basically flunked everything, he's worthless to them, he failed to unite the galaxy, gave in to the pressures of others in preserving the Collector base, he's basically worthless as far as they see him. At higher EMS he's a prize to be won, at lower EMS, he's a failure to mercifully end.

He says he's not thrilled about it. But if that's the case, why offer Shepard the choice at all? He does nothing to stop him.

But either way, I advise you read this; 
http://social.biowar...3/2141#11952209 

Thanks for the answer.

Just having one question- the bolded part.

In this case, why does the catalyst offers destroy to Shepard if he doesn't want Shepard to choose it?

It's not the catalyst offering Shepard destroy. Destroy represents the part of Shepard's mind that's still resisting the indoctrination.

[BansheeOwnage]

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Does anyone want to play some MP with me?

I do!

PC?

Unfortunately, although I have the game on PC, I play MP on 360, and am therefore level 1-with-no-anything on PC.

[estebanus]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Does anyone want to play some MP with me?

I do!

PC?

Unfortunately, although I have the game on PC, I play MP on 360, and am therefore level 1-with-no-anything on PC.

Oh, all right then.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

HagarIshay wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...
Indoctrination. It's right there in the name.

Indoctrination is NOT mind control, which Control would be, Shepard "surrenders his body" losing everything he has for the delusion of control, just like the Illusive Man. He's a less useful thrall like that.

Synthesis is Shepard aligning himself to THEIR view, becoming "indoctrinated" to their own doctrine. Their philosophy.

Indoctrination isn't insidious because it makes you do things you don't want to do.

It's insidious because it makes you WANT to do them.

Shepard is also less useful to them in low Control. He basically flunked everything, he's worthless to them, he failed to unite the galaxy, gave in to the pressures of others in preserving the Collector base, he's basically worthless as far as they see him. At higher EMS he's a prize to be won, at lower EMS, he's a failure to mercifully end.

He says he's not thrilled about it. But if that's the case, why offer Shepard the choice at all? He does nothing to stop him.

But either way, I advise you read this; 
http://social.biowar...3/2141#11952209 

Thanks for the answer.

Just having one question- the bolded part.

In this case, why does the catalyst offers destroy to Shepard if he doesn't want Shepard to choose it?

I dont think it is choice if the Reapers want to offer it. Destroy is a manifestation of Shepard the unindoctrinated part of Shepards mind and not something the Indoctrination can block out.

At least that is the way I see it.

[BansheeOwnage]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

AUGH! RAIST! What happened to your avatar!? 

Needed something new, that old Salarian "are you ****ing kidding me" face (seriously it reminded me of that) was getting old.

So now I dug into an old passion of mine, Dragons. After all Dragons always get the ladies (wether the ladies want to or not) so I am of to kidnap a Princess or three...do you guys think the Reapers have any Princesses?

...

Oh god...

Weird random stuff incomming: I think I figured out the Catalyst true Identity.

It is a princess, a Reaper princess on her quest to create the perfect male. That is why the reapers are harvesting, they are trying to create the perfect man for their Princess and they think they finally found what is needed in Shepard.

That is why the Catalyst wnats Shepard to pick Synthesis so badly...if you know what I mean

...

Who here thinks I should go to bed? Raise your hand

So what about Femshep? And yes, you should go to bed.

[BansheeOwnage]

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Does anyone want to play some MP with me?

I do!

PC?

Unfortunately, although I have the game on PC, I play MP on 360, and am therefore level 1-with-no-anything on PC.

Oh, all right then.

Sorry for the mislead but I did answer the question "Does anyone want to play some MP with me?" truthfully.

[Simon_Says]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

AUGH! RAIST! What happened to your avatar!? 

Needed something new, that old Salarian "are you ****ing kidding me" face (seriously it reminded me of that) was getting old.

So now I dug into an old passion of mine, Dragons. After all Dragons always get the ladies (wether the ladies want to or not) so I am of to kidnap a Princess or three...do you guys think the Reapers have any Princesses?

...

Oh god...

Weird random stuff incomming: I think I figured out the Catalyst true Identity.

It is a princess, a Reaper princess on her quest to create the perfect male. That is why the reapers are harvesting, they are trying to create the perfect man for their Princess and they think they finally found what is needed in Shepard.

That is why the Catalyst wnats Shepard to pick Synthesis so badly...if you know what I mean

...

Who here thinks I should go to bed? Raise your hand

I'm pretty sure Golferguy would have loved that.

But on a slightly related topic, why a boy? Why not the girl from the Take Earth Back trailer or something?

[estebanus]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

AUGH! RAIST! What happened to your avatar!? 

Needed something new, that old Salarian "are you ****ing kidding me" face (seriously it reminded me of that) was getting old.

So now I dug into an old passion of mine, Dragons. After all Dragons always get the ladies (wether the ladies want to or not) so I am of to kidnap a Princess or three...do you guys think the Reapers have any Princesses?

...

Oh god...

Weird random stuff incomming: I think I figured out the Catalyst true Identity.

It is a princess, a Reaper princess on her quest to create the perfect male. That is why the reapers are harvesting, they are trying to create the perfect man for their Princess and they think they finally found what is needed in Shepard.

That is why the Catalyst wnats Shepard to pick Synthesis so badly...if you know what I mean

...

Who here thinks I should go to bed? Raise your hand

So what about Femshep? And yes, you should go to bed.

In femshep's case, the catalyst is a lesbian. That also explains why the reapers failed in making the catalyst the right man, and it also explains why they again and again tried to make the perfect man for her!

[BansheeOwnage]

So according to the page numbers, the events of ME1 are starting now. Not long till we finish ME3 . Anyway, I'm gonna go eat, then play some MP. Anyone on 360 is welcome to join me.

[Arian Dynas]

HagarIshay wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...
Indoctrination. It's right there in the name.

Indoctrination is NOT mind control, which Control would be, Shepard "surrenders his body" losing everything he has for the delusion of control, just like the Illusive Man. He's a less useful thrall like that.

Synthesis is Shepard aligning himself to THEIR view, becoming "indoctrinated" to their own doctrine. Their philosophy.

Indoctrination isn't insidious because it makes you do things you don't want to do.

It's insidious because it makes you WANT to do them.

Shepard is also less useful to them in low Control. He basically flunked everything, he's worthless to them, he failed to unite the galaxy, gave in to the pressures of others in preserving the Collector base, he's basically worthless as far as they see him. At higher EMS he's a prize to be won, at lower EMS, he's a failure to mercifully end.

He says he's not thrilled about it. But if that's the case, why offer Shepard the choice at all? He does nothing to stop him.

But either way, I advise you read this; 
http://social.biowar...3/2141#11952209 

Thanks for the answer.

Just having one question- the bolded part.

In this case, why does the catalyst offers destroy to Shepard if he doesn't want Shepard to choose it?

Because of two reasons;

If Shepard DIDN'T have such an option, he would figure something is up, as would we. Destroy is an example of the logical phallacy "poisoning the well" he gives us new consequences to drive us away from Destroy, basically telling us;
"Ok yeah, you could pick that, if you want to, but bad things will happen if you do. I've got some better options, why not try those instead?"

And in the original ending (Pre EC, which is to say, pre-fanservice pandering. ) The "Catalyst" DIDN'T offer Shepard the choice of Destroy. Anderson did, showing Destroy in that funky little flash forward thing, then the Guardian tells you all the reasons that Destroy is bad, to get you away from it.

Besides, one way or another, who would you trust more? Saren? The Illusive Man? Or Anderson?

And seriously, read the link, Salient Archer's explanation is very good. 

[smokingotter1]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Does anyone want to play some MP with me?

I do!

PC?

Unfortunately, although I have the game on PC, I play MP on 360, and am therefore level 1-with-no-anything on PC.

You're better than consoles... "join us and we will find a place for you"

[BansheeOwnage]

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

AUGH! RAIST! What happened to your avatar!? 

Needed something new, that old Salarian "are you ****ing kidding me" face (seriously it reminded me of that) was getting old.

So now I dug into an old passion of mine, Dragons. After all Dragons always get the ladies (wether the ladies want to or not) so I am of to kidnap a Princess or three...do you guys think the Reapers have any Princesses?

...

Oh god...

Weird random stuff incomming: I think I figured out the Catalyst true Identity.

It is a princess, a Reaper princess on her quest to create the perfect male. That is why the reapers are harvesting, they are trying to create the perfect man for their Princess and they think they finally found what is needed in Shepard.

That is why the Catalyst wnats Shepard to pick Synthesis so badly...if you know what I mean

...

Who here thinks I should go to bed? Raise your hand

So what about Femshep? And yes, you should go to bed.

In femshep's case, the catalyst is a lesbian. That also explains why the reapers failed in making the catalyst the right man, and it also explains why they again and again tried to make the perfect man for her!

Also, we managed to talk about lesbians again. LOL

[estebanus]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

So according to the page numbers, the events of ME1 are starting now. Not long till we finish ME3 . Anyway, I'm gonna go eat, then play some MP. Anyone on 360 is welcome to join me.

Food sounds good right about now. I think I'll make some dinner. I'll be back in a while.

[Arian Dynas]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

AUGH! RAIST! What happened to your avatar!? 

Needed something new, that old Salarian "are you ****ing kidding me" face (seriously it reminded me of that) was getting old.

So now I dug into an old passion of mine, Dragons. After all Dragons always get the ladies (wether the ladies want to or not) so I am of to kidnap a Princess or three...do you guys think the Reapers have any Princesses?

...

Oh god...

Weird random stuff incomming: I think I figured out the Catalyst true Identity.

It is a princess, a Reaper princess on her quest to create the perfect male. That is why the reapers are harvesting, they are trying to create the perfect man for their Princess and they think they finally found what is needed in Shepard.

That is why the Catalyst wnats Shepard to pick Synthesis so badly...if you know what I mean

...

Who here thinks I should go to bed? Raise your hand

Go back to the Salarian the dragon makes you think illogically.