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Simon_Says wrote...

WE HAVE ARRIVED

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Countdown to thread closure begins now! P-minus One hundred!



The end is near, everybody...PANIC!

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estebanus wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

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SIDEBOOB SCANNER ACTIVATED.

SCANNING...

SCANNING...

SCANNING...

DONE. SIDEBOOB HAS BEEN CONFIRMED. UPLOADING PICTURE TO THE "PICTURES" SETTING OF THE COMPUTER.

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smokingotter1 wrote...

The end is near, everybody...PANIC!

The reapers are here?!?
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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

Time to grasp at some straws....
When you see the kid at the beginning of ME3 he has a kind of dream halo outline like thing around him in some of the scenes:

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Edit: Omg it really becomes obvious in this scene.... how have I missed this for so long?!

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Hadn't it already been confirmed that there are several cutscenes in ME3 with those borders?


Yeah, this is a cutscene effect. It's even in ME2... as is, the white flash effect- in the Normady crash planet recollection cutscenes. That's not to say the white flash effect isn't given a whole new use in ME3.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I never deny there being reused assets, however that excuse does not cut it in many situations. Like people saying the blue eyes in synthesis is just reusing assets. If that were the case they'd have used the glowy green eyes asset used everywhere else in that scene.


Someone seriously claims that the blue eyes are reused asset? He or she must be shown that part of Evolution where TIM gets his...

But I guess their opinion won't be very much altered by that.

The strangeness of humans knows no bounds. Like one guy on a public talk about String theory that was held today in Munich. After the talk people could ask questions, and he started derpherping about how the lack of experimental validation for String theory "risks the intelligence of 7 billion people on Earth" and how the scientist giving the talk was playing "dangerous mathematical games".

Reminded me of the attention seeking trolls that come here once in a while to tell us how crazy we are.


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Uh... actually most theoretical physicists DON'T use string theory anymore.

We've got 'brane theory now. Instead of strings, the universe is made of rippling membranes, giving rise to the ekonpyretic universe model.

Uhm isn't the M Theory a subsegment of the String Theories?


Technically?

It's more an expansion upon string theory.


To my understanding, the membranes are considered part of string theory.  They came into being with the math somewhere along the line.

I haven't followed string theory in while though.  I'm more of a loop quantum gravity person

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smokingotter1 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

Don't worry guys at the next Comiccon I'll make sure I ask Casey Hudson three important questions:

1. How can I get a job at Bioware?
2. What is your opinion in regards to the lesbian singularity?
3. Where was David Anderson born?

This is a great plan!Posted Image [/Caboose]

Uhm, I may be missing something here, but who is Caboose?

Red vs. Blue. Halarious character. Reminds me a bit of massterblasster.


Noe tihs remminds me off masster blasster

I use mye phone 2 make postss so spellring is harrd.

Not nice.


I joke, Massters blasster is pretty great, but man I'd hate to post on this forum from my phone, he is dedicated.

uuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhh.......

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legaldinho wrote...
 as is, the white flash effect- in the Normady crash planet recollection cutscenes. That's not to say the white flash effect isn't given a whole new use in ME3.

Not really. It was symbolizing that what follows isn't real in 2 as well.

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TheConstantOne wrote...

To my understanding, the membranes are considered part of string theory.  They came into being with the math somewhere along the line.

I haven't followed string theory in while though.  I'm more of a loop quantum gravity person


String theory popped up in the 60s when scientists tried to look more deeper into the strong interaction, when suddenly, le wild quatum gravity popped up, 10 dimensions and other stuff. It's similar to how Calculus popped up during Newton's research, it was a residual of his studies.

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jgibson14352 wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

Don't worry guys at the next Comiccon I'll make sure I ask Casey Hudson three important questions:

1. How can I get a job at Bioware?
2. What is your opinion in regards to the lesbian singularity?
3. Where was David Anderson born?

This is a great plan!Posted Image [/Caboose]

Uhm, I may be missing something here, but who is Caboose?

Red vs. Blue. Halarious character. Reminds me a bit of massterblasster.


Noe tihs remminds me off masster blasster

I use mye phone 2 make postss so spellring is harrd.

Not nice.


I joke, Massters blasster is pretty great, but man I'd hate to post on this forum from my phone, he is dedicated.

uuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhh.......


I don't remember that... although to be fair I'm usually the first part of my username... if that makes sense. That and whiskey.

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RavenEyry wrote...

legaldinho wrote...
 as is, the white flash effect- in the Normady crash planet recollection cutscenes. That's not to say the white flash effect isn't given a whole new use in ME3.

Not really. It was symbolizing that what follows isn't real in 2 as well.


It's real- memories, historical recollection. But I can see that it's based on shepard's recollection- and thus his mind, and that's a common link with the geth consensus (which is real time, but all virtual, in Shep's mind), and the post beam scenes.

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legaldinho wrote...

It's real- memories, historical recollection. But I can see that it's based on shepard's recollection- and thus his mind, and that's a common link with the geth consensus (which is real time, but all virtual, in Shep's mind), and the post beam scenes.

What I meant was the flash wasn't a transition from something real and now to something else real and now. In fact the only time it is in the franchise is in the non-IT version of the ending.

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All right, time for me to go. See you in the morning. Goodnight!

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The year was 2186, the place was Babylon 5 IT thread.

Any who, just read the new Homeworlds comic, nothing new to report for IT though the writer hinted that there would be more after the ending of ME3 in a vague, sort of wishful thinking sort of way (as in there would be more comics).

Modifié par leonia42, 28 juillet 2012 - 09:42 .


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I just "found" something odd:

here we have the End03_D_FutureEarth:
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I always wondered about the architecture, and I just remembered this:
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and another angle:
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which in return reminds me of End03_S_FutureCity:
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It is also noteworthy that most of the pictures in the vision that is not cleared up are actually of the Citadel or that City, which do not occur in the cleared up version.


Also the scene where the two soldiers getting overwhelmed by Husks until the wave arrives is in Rio from the filename, seems Rio will get some occurrence in a DLC.

Also why does Tali have Geth armor on her arm?
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Wow, this thread really is dying isn't it.

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HagarIshay wrote...

Thanks for the answer.

Just having one question- the bolded part.

In this case, why does the catalyst offers destroy to Shepard if he doesn't want Shepard to choose it?

Someones probably already answered this, but I'll give my opinion, the catalyst is not offering it, Shepards mind is, albeit in a twisted way due to reaper influence, Shepard's mind is looking for a way out, there are four doors(three before EC), these doors are not the catalyst creation, they are Shepard's creation, his mind trying to find it's way back to reality, remember, at no point does the catalyst claim those doors to be his, he just says the crucible created new possibilities, well I think it's Shepard's mind that created them.

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Nice, Megumi. I noticed the similarities but I didn't know they were that alike. And I agree, I think Rio may be part of some future DLC. I mean, they've already built a map for it for MP, wouldn't be hard to do so for SP. Unless it's already done for part of the Leviathan DLC and the MP DLC was just based off of it...Anyway. Anything else interesting in the last few days I might've missed?

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Holy ****! I just made a VERY interesting discovery about the Carnipredifexator. When the gun changed, it didn't just change into a Carnipredifexator, it turned into a Carnipredifexator with UPGRADES ATTACHED! I'm guessing those are the same upgrades I had on my gun IN REAL LIFE (So to speak.). And I don't remember this EVER happening pre-EC. Yet ANOTHER clue that this scene isn't real, and yet ANOTHER clue that BW added with the EC.

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Dwailing wrote...

Holy ****! I just made a VERY interesting discovery about the Carnipredifexator. When the gun changed, it didn't just change into a Carnipredifexator, it turned into a Carnipredifexator with UPGRADES ATTACHED! I'm guessing those are the same upgrades I had on my gun IN REAL LIFE (So to speak.). And I don't remember this EVER happening pre-EC. Yet ANOTHER clue that this scene isn't real, and yet ANOTHER clue that BW added with the EC.


Took screens of it happening pre and post-EC and didn't notice any updrades. What updrades did you see? Scope, barrel, stun attachement?

Try not to get too excited, could still be interpretted as a "bug" of sorts. It's the fact the change in guns is there at all that's such a compelling clue.

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Holy ****! I just made a VERY interesting discovery about the Carnipredifexator. When the gun changed, it didn't just change into a Carnipredifexator, it turned into a Carnipredifexator with UPGRADES ATTACHED! I'm guessing those are the same upgrades I had on my gun IN REAL LIFE (So to speak.). And I don't remember this EVER happening pre-EC. Yet ANOTHER clue that this scene isn't real, and yet ANOTHER clue that BW added with the EC.


Took screens of it happening pre and post-EC and didn't notice any updrades. What updrades did you see? Scope, barrel, stun attachement?

Try not to get too excited, could still be interpretted as a "bug" of sorts. It's the fact the change in guns is there at all that's such a compelling clue.


Hey, remember the default gun selection during the cutscenes? Having upgrades during the cutscene means extra work!

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Holy ****! I just made a VERY interesting discovery about the Carnipredifexator. When the gun changed, it didn't just change into a Carnipredifexator, it turned into a Carnipredifexator with UPGRADES ATTACHED! I'm guessing those are the same upgrades I had on my gun IN REAL LIFE (So to speak.). And I don't remember this EVER happening pre-EC. Yet ANOTHER clue that this scene isn't real, and yet ANOTHER clue that BW added with the EC.


Took screens of it happening pre and post-EC and didn't notice any updrades. What updrades did you see? Scope, barrel, stun attachement?

Try not to get too excited, could still be interpretted as a "bug" of sorts. It's the fact the change in guns is there at all that's such a compelling clue.


I'm not sure if it's what he's talking about, but if you have the extended clip, for example, it'll change the colour of the gun. This carries over to change the colour of the Predator part of it during this..."glitch" if you have it equipped, regardless of whether you were using the Predator prior to being hit by Harbinger and being forced to use the Carnifex.

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MaximizedAction wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Holy ****! I just made a VERY interesting discovery about the Carnipredifexator. When the gun changed, it didn't just change into a Carnipredifexator, it turned into a Carnipredifexator with UPGRADES ATTACHED! I'm guessing those are the same upgrades I had on my gun IN REAL LIFE (So to speak.). And I don't remember this EVER happening pre-EC. Yet ANOTHER clue that this scene isn't real, and yet ANOTHER clue that BW added with the EC.


Took screens of it happening pre and post-EC and didn't notice any updrades. What updrades did you see? Scope, barrel, stun attachement?

Try not to get too excited, could still be interpretted as a "bug" of sorts. It's the fact the change in guns is there at all that's such a compelling clue.


Hey, remember the default gun selection during the cutscenes? Having upgrades during the cutscene means extra work!


In all the scenes where it defaults your gun to a Predator or Avenger, if you currently have that weapon equipped, it will show your mods in the scene. Thats why I always carry a predator with ammo and extended barrel mods attached. That way it looks like I have a black silenced Predator during cutscenes, which is way cooler.

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byne wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Holy ****! I just made a VERY interesting discovery about the Carnipredifexator. When the gun changed, it didn't just change into a Carnipredifexator, it turned into a Carnipredifexator with UPGRADES ATTACHED! I'm guessing those are the same upgrades I had on my gun IN REAL LIFE (So to speak.). And I don't remember this EVER happening pre-EC. Yet ANOTHER clue that this scene isn't real, and yet ANOTHER clue that BW added with the EC.


Took screens of it happening pre and post-EC and didn't notice any updrades. What updrades did you see? Scope, barrel, stun attachement?

Try not to get too excited, could still be interpretted as a "bug" of sorts. It's the fact the change in guns is there at all that's such a compelling clue.


Hey, remember the default gun selection during the cutscenes? Having upgrades during the cutscene means extra work!


In all the scenes where it defaults your gun to a Predator or Avenger, if you currently have that weapon equipped, it will show your mods in the scene. Thats why I always carry a predator with ammo and extended barrel mods attached. That way it looks like I have a black silenced Predator during cutscenes, which is way cooler.


Oh, now that you mention it, I MIGHT have been using the Predator during regular gameplay...  Give me a minute to check.  Darn, and here I thought I found something awesome.  Although... did anyone ever bring an upgraded Predator to that scene pre-EC and see the upgrades on it?

Edit: OK, as of the quick save I made 30 minutes before the Restart Mission save for Citadel: The Return, I had a Carnifex equiped with the capacity and stunner mods attached.  The mod I saw on the Carnipredifexator in Destroy was the barrel mod.  Maybe that's what I have attached to the Predator currently even though I don't have it equiped...

Modifié par Dwailing, 28 juillet 2012 - 11:10 .


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Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Holy ****! I just made a VERY interesting discovery about the Carnipredifexator. When the gun changed, it didn't just change into a Carnipredifexator, it turned into a Carnipredifexator with UPGRADES ATTACHED! I'm guessing those are the same upgrades I had on my gun IN REAL LIFE (So to speak.). And I don't remember this EVER happening pre-EC. Yet ANOTHER clue that this scene isn't real, and yet ANOTHER clue that BW added with the EC.


Took screens of it happening pre and post-EC and didn't notice any updrades. What updrades did you see? Scope, barrel, stun attachement?

Try not to get too excited, could still be interpretted as a "bug" of sorts. It's the fact the change in guns is there at all that's such a compelling clue.


Hey, remember the default gun selection during the cutscenes? Having upgrades during the cutscene means extra work!


In all the scenes where it defaults your gun to a Predator or Avenger, if you currently have that weapon equipped, it will show your mods in the scene. Thats why I always carry a predator with ammo and extended barrel mods attached. That way it looks like I have a black silenced Predator during cutscenes, which is way cooler.


Oh, now that you mention it, I MIGHT have been using the Predator during regular gameplay...  Give me a minute to check.  Darn, and here I thought I found something awesome.  Although... did anyone ever bring an upgraded Predator to that scene pre-EC and see the upgrades on it?


Like I said, I ALWAYS carry a modified Predator. I never noticed it, but I never really looked for it, either.

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Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Holy ****! I just made a VERY interesting discovery about the Carnipredifexator. When the gun changed, it didn't just change into a Carnipredifexator, it turned into a Carnipredifexator with UPGRADES ATTACHED! I'm guessing those are the same upgrades I had on my gun IN REAL LIFE (So to speak.). And I don't remember this EVER happening pre-EC. Yet ANOTHER clue that this scene isn't real, and yet ANOTHER clue that BW added with the EC.


Took screens of it happening pre and post-EC and didn't notice any updrades. What updrades did you see? Scope, barrel, stun attachement?

Try not to get too excited, could still be interpretted as a "bug" of sorts. It's the fact the change in guns is there at all that's such a compelling clue.


Hey, remember the default gun selection during the cutscenes? Having upgrades during the cutscene means extra work!


In all the scenes where it defaults your gun to a Predator or Avenger, if you currently have that weapon equipped, it will show your mods in the scene. Thats why I always carry a predator with ammo and extended barrel mods attached. That way it looks like I have a black silenced Predator during cutscenes, which is way cooler.


Oh, now that you mention it, I MIGHT have been using the Predator during regular gameplay...  Give me a minute to check.  Darn, and here I thought I found something awesome.  Although... did anyone ever bring an upgraded Predator to that scene pre-EC and see the upgrades on it?

Edit: OK, as of the quick save I made 30 minutes before the Restart Mission save for Citadel: The Return, I had a Carnifex equiped with the capacity and stunner mods attached.  The mod I saw on the Carnipredifexator in Destroy was the barrel mod.  Maybe that's what I have attached to the Predator currently even though I don't have it equiped...


Bumping so people will see the fruits of my research.

Edit: Well, as far as I can remember, there's no point at which I can change my weapons between the battle for the missiles and the endings, so something really IS up.  I'm thinking that it's reflecting the upgrades I have on the Predator even though I don't have the Predator equiped.  Why would it do that?  Hum, let's all think about that for a minute now, shall we? Posted Image

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