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#54701
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Dwailing wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

Dwailing, you're right. It'd have to be intentional to deviate from how the system is already set up. Still not sure what it means, either, though.

estebanus wrote...
Ok, so it went like this: Otter asked me if I was single, and I said I have a girlfriend. Then Simon proceeded to provide us with a link to tvtropes.org about lesbians. Because I apparently am one. Or maybe not. Maybe yes. I'm undecided.

Oh, and then we talked about AIs. Lesbian AIs.


Not to be off topic, but...Lesbian AIs?
...Now all I can think of is EDI hooking up with Traynor instead of Joker...

And just out of curiousity, how many of us here are lesbians? :huh:


Seems like the number may be disappointingly high. May have something to do with the blue babe, but my canon Shep actually isn't technically a lesbian. She's a mono-gender lover... I think. :blink:;)


"Disappointingly high?"  Wait, what?  I mean, that might need some clarification so it won't be misinterpreted.


Disproportionately... spellcheck fail.

I'm not single, so it's not like I'm hunting... for now.

#54702
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Auralius Carolus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Ok, so it went like this: Otter asked me if I was single, and I said I have a girlfriend. Then Simon proceeded to provide us with a link to tvtropes.org about lesbians. Because I apparently am one. Or maybe not. Maybe yes. I'm undecided.

Oh, and then we talked about AIs. Lesbian AIs.


Not to be off topic, but...Lesbian AIs?
...Now all I can think of is EDI hooking up with Traynor instead of Joker...


"We're there any oils or lubricants involved?  Was there any moaning?" Posted Image  Also, I thought estabanus was a guy...  Estebanus, did you have an *Clears throat* operation and didn't tell us?


Why was an otter hitting on you? I mean, I AM Lord of the Chinchillas and all that Jazz, but my rodent involvement is purely professional; trying to take over the world and such.

And EDI... as much fun as EDI is, every ounce of "her" femanine detail is artificial. Just imagine the wake up call when "she" decided to randomly change her voice to that of a big burly man to prank Joker! "You got a purdy mouth..."




But that's why she's so fun! Sounds like something she'd do, too. "That was a joke."

#54703
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Turbo_J wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

Dwailing, you're right. It'd have to be intentional to deviate from how the system is already set up. Still not sure what it means, either, though.

estebanus wrote...
Ok, so it went like this: Otter asked me if I was single, and I said I have a girlfriend. Then Simon proceeded to provide us with a link to tvtropes.org about lesbians. Because I apparently am one. Or maybe not. Maybe yes. I'm undecided.

Oh, and then we talked about AIs. Lesbian AIs.


Not to be off topic, but...Lesbian AIs?
...Now all I can think of is EDI hooking up with Traynor instead of Joker...

And just out of curiousity, how many of us here are lesbians? :huh:


Seems like the number may be disappointingly high. May have something to do with the blue babe, but my canon Shep actually isn't technically a lesbian. She's a mono-gender lover... I think. :blink:;)


"Disappointingly high?"  Wait, what?  I mean, that might need some clarification so it won't be misinterpreted.


Disproportionately... spellcheck fail.

I'm not single, so it's not like I'm hunting... for now.

1/1? Dunno if someone else is female here, don't care much about that :P

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So, am I the only one who thinks that Coats is indoctrinated by Cerberus, and not the Reapers?

I mean, he could just be one of the many moles we know Cerberus has embedded within the Alliance, and plus theres that weird part with him being on that shuttle with the Cerberus logo.

Plus it fits my old theory that Harby actually said Cerberus, not serve us or save us. He recognizes an indoctrinated agent that isnt one of his, and realizes TIM is up to something again, which would explain why he flew off after lasering Shep. He wants to go put TIM in his place.

Plus, Coats is dead in that hallway you wake up in. Remember the concept art of that hallway?

Posted Image

Full of nothin but Cerberus.

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No one got the joke.

Modifié par paxxton, 29 juillet 2012 - 01:19 .


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DrTsoni wrote...

But that's why she's so fun! Sounds like something she'd do, too. "That was a joke."

EDI's collection of explicit images is bigger than Joker's.

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OK, I'm going to continue my line of thought about the Carnipredifexator. Right when the run to the beam changes to the cutscene with Shep's squadmates getting injured/dead, all of Shep's weapons disappear, like in some of the dreams, and he is shown carrying a Predator. Now, if it was just the Predator, I would say it's just the usual giving him a generic cutscene pistol. But since his guns disappear (Which they don't in ALL the other cutscenes besides this one.), and he's left with only a Predator (Not a modified one, but still.), I wonder if they're trying to tell us something...

Also, the Predator disappears at LEAST after the Mako flips and Shep's squad gets injured.  Why?  Who knows.  But I know that at this point, I'm starting to wonder if the hallucination kicks in after the cutscene kicks in.

Modifié par Dwailing, 29 juillet 2012 - 12:31 .


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Dwailing wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Ok, so it went like this: Otter asked me if I was single, and I said I have a girlfriend. Then Simon proceeded to provide us with a link to tvtropes.org about lesbians. Because I apparently am one. Or maybe not. Maybe yes. I'm undecided.

Oh, and then we talked about AIs. Lesbian AIs.


Not to be off topic, but...Lesbian AIs?
...Now all I can think of is EDI hooking up with Traynor instead of Joker...


"We're there any oils or lubricants involved?  Was there any moaning?" Posted Image  Also, I thought estabanus was a guy...  Estebanus, did you have an *Clears throat* operation and didn't tell us?

Lol. No. I never said I wasn't a guy. I never said I wasn't a woman. It's up to you to decide.

What gender do I seem more like?

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Auralius Carolus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Ok, so it went like this: Otter asked me if I was single, and I said I have a girlfriend. Then Simon proceeded to provide us with a link to tvtropes.org about lesbians. Because I apparently am one. Or maybe not. Maybe yes. I'm undecided.

Oh, and then we talked about AIs. Lesbian AIs.


Not to be off topic, but...Lesbian AIs?
...Now all I can think of is EDI hooking up with Traynor instead of Joker...


"We're there any oils or lubricants involved?  Was there any moaning?" Posted Image  Also, I thought estabanus was a guy...  Estebanus, did you have an *Clears throat* operation and didn't tell us?


Why was an otter hitting on you? I mean, I AM Lord of the Chinchillas and all that Jazz, but my rodent involvement is purely professional; trying to take over the world and such.

And EDI... as much fun as EDI is, every ounce of "her" femanine detail is artificial. Just imagine the wake up call when "she" decided to randomly change her voice to that of a big burly man to prank Joker! "You got a purdy mouth..."



Otter was hitting on me because I'm rich. That's it.

#54710
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estebanus wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Ok, so it went like this: Otter asked me if I was single, and I said I have a girlfriend. Then Simon proceeded to provide us with a link to tvtropes.org about lesbians. Because I apparently am one. Or maybe not. Maybe yes. I'm undecided.

Oh, and then we talked about AIs. Lesbian AIs.


Not to be off topic, but...Lesbian AIs?
...Now all I can think of is EDI hooking up with Traynor instead of Joker...


"We're there any oils or lubricants involved?  Was there any moaning?" Posted Image  Also, I thought estabanus was a guy...  Estebanus, did you have an *Clears throat* operation and didn't tell us?


Why was an otter hitting on you? I mean, I AM Lord of the Chinchillas and all that Jazz, but my rodent involvement is purely professional; trying to take over the world and such.

And EDI... as much fun as EDI is, every ounce of "her" femanine detail is artificial. Just imagine the wake up call when "she" decided to randomly change her voice to that of a big burly man to prank Joker! "You got a purdy mouth..."



Otter was hitting on me because I'm rich. That's it.

Can I borrow some gold? I'm poor.

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byne wrote...

So, am I the only one who thinks that Coats is indoctrinated by Cerberus, and not the Reapers?

I mean, he could just be one of the many moles we know Cerberus has embedded within the Alliance, and plus theres that weird part with him being on that shuttle with the Cerberus logo.

Plus it fits my old theory that Harby actually said Cerberus, not serve us or save us. He recognizes an indoctrinated agent that isnt one of his, and realizes TIM is up to something again, which would explain why he flew off after lasering Shep. He wants to go put TIM in his place.

Plus, Coats is dead in that hallway you wake up in. Remember the concept art of that hallway?

Posted Image

Full of nothin but Cerberus.


A refresher: in the "Hidden" ME2: Arrival Ending, there are Reapers shown on the Citadel, (apparently fighting one another), while TIM is present.

That aside, that concept art is a copy-paste job: note the presence of, basically, three seperate humanoid models for all the corpses. Generalization, not detail, was most likely to be the goal and Cerberus art was most available.

#54712
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estebanus wrote...
Otter was hitting on me because I'm rich. That's it.


Filthy mooching otters! There is no joy in wealth, lest it is properly earned. But while we're on the subject...

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Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Otter was hitting on me because I'm rich. That's it.


Filthy mooching otters! There is no joy in wealth, lest it is properly earned. But while we're on the subject...


Also, by rich, I think Estebanus means he said he had like $50.

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byne wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Otter was hitting on me because I'm rich. That's it.


Filthy mooching otters! There is no joy in wealth, lest it is properly earned. But while we're on the subject...


Also, by rich, I think Estebanus means he said he had like $50.

More like €753.000...

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estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Otter was hitting on me because I'm rich. That's it.


Filthy mooching otters! There is no joy in wealth, lest it is properly earned. But while we're on the subject...


Also, by rich, I think Estebanus means he said he had like $50.

More like €753.000...


Oh, did you? I must have just been skimming because I remember something being said about 700 pesos, not euros.

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estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Otter was hitting on me because I'm rich. That's it.


Filthy mooching otters! There is no joy in wealth, lest it is properly earned. But while we're on the subject...


Also, by rich, I think Estebanus means he said he had like $50.

More like €753.000...

LOL. Just remember not to disclose your credit card number here.

Modifié par paxxton, 29 juillet 2012 - 12:42 .


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estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Otter was hitting on me because I'm rich. That's it.


Filthy mooching otters! There is no joy in wealth, lest it is properly earned. But while we're on the subject...


Also, by rich, I think Estebanus means he said he had like $50.

More like €753.000...


That's like, $820 or something. I haz moar tahn tat!

#54718
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byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Otter was hitting on me because I'm rich. That's it.


Filthy mooching otters! There is no joy in wealth, lest it is properly earned. But while we're on the subject...


Also, by rich, I think Estebanus means he said he had like $50.

More like €753.000...


Oh, did you? I must have just been skimming because I remember something being said about 700 pesos, not euros.

Yeah, Otter said Pesos, I said euros.

#54719
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Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Otter was hitting on me because I'm rich. That's it.


Filthy mooching otters! There is no joy in wealth, lest it is properly earned. But while we're on the subject...


Also, by rich, I think Estebanus means he said he had like $50.

More like €753.000...


That's like, $820 or something. I haz moar tahn tat!



*facepalm*

you know that's almost 1.000.000, right?

#54720
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estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Otter was hitting on me because I'm rich. That's it.


Filthy mooching otters! There is no joy in wealth, lest it is properly earned. But while we're on the subject...


Also, by rich, I think Estebanus means he said he had like $50.

More like €753.000...


Oh, did you? I must have just been skimming because I remember something being said about 700 pesos, not euros.

Yeah, Otter said Pesos, I said euros.


Euros are lame. I liked marks. One of the coins had a neat bird on it.

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estebanus wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Otter was hitting on me because I'm rich. That's it.


Filthy mooching otters! There is no joy in wealth, lest it is properly earned. But while we're on the subject...


Also, by rich, I think Estebanus means he said he had like $50.

More like €753.000...


That's like, $820 or something. I haz moar tahn tat!



*facepalm*

you know that's almost 1.000.000, right?

Commas and decimal points... misleading.

Modifié par paxxton, 29 juillet 2012 - 12:46 .


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Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Otter was hitting on me because I'm rich. That's it.


Filthy mooching otters! There is no joy in wealth, lest it is properly earned. But while we're on the subject...


Also, by rich, I think Estebanus means he said he had like $50.

More like €753.000...


That's like, $820 or something. I haz moar tahn tat!


820 000 (?)

#54723
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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

Dwailing, you're right. It'd have to be intentional to deviate from how the system is already set up. Still not sure what it means, either, though.

estebanus wrote...
Ok, so it went like this: Otter asked me if I was single, and I said I have a girlfriend. Then Simon proceeded to provide us with a link to tvtropes.org about lesbians. Because I apparently am one. Or maybe not. Maybe yes. I'm undecided.

Oh, and then we talked about AIs. Lesbian AIs.


Not to be off topic, but...Lesbian AIs?
...Now all I can think of is EDI hooking up with Traynor instead of Joker...

And just out of curiousity, how many of us here are lesbians? :huh:


Seems like the number may be disappointingly high. May have something to do with the blue babe, but my canon Shep actually isn't technically a lesbian. She's a mono-gender lover... I think. :blink:;)


"Disappointingly high?"  Wait, what?  I mean, that might need some clarification so it won't be misinterpreted.


Disproportionately... spellcheck fail.

I'm not single, so it's not like I'm hunting... for now.

1/1? Dunno if someone else is female here, don't care much about that :P


Aw, hey, now I just feel left out :P

byne wrote...

So, am I the only one who thinks that Coats is indoctrinated by Cerberus, and not the Reapers?

I
mean, he could just be one of the many moles we know Cerberus has
embedded within the Alliance, and plus theres that weird part with him
being on that shuttle with the Cerberus logo.

Plus it fits my old
theory that Harby actually said Cerberus, not serve us or save us. He
recognizes an indoctrinated agent that isnt one of his, and realizes TIM
is up to something again, which would explain why he flew off after
lasering Shep. He wants to go put TIM in his place.

Plus, Coats is dead in that hallway you wake up in. Remember the concept art of that hallway?

*Cerby snip*

Full of nothin but Cerberus.


That's a good point and definitely possible. But why would he fly off if the beam was the only way up to the Citadel and TIM was on the Citadel? Or are we still considering that a hallucination?

Auralius Carolus wrote...

A refresher: in the "Hidden"
ME2: Arrival Ending, there are Reapers shown on the Citadel, (apparently
fighting one another), while TIM is present.

That aside, that
concept art is a copy-paste job: note the presence of, basically, three
seperate humanoid models for all the corpses. Generalization, not
detail, was most likely to be the goal and Cerberus art was most
available.


I actually didn't know that about Arrival...

#54724
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estebanus wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Otter was hitting on me because I'm rich. That's it.


Filthy mooching otters! There is no joy in wealth, lest it is properly earned. But while we're on the subject...


Also, by rich, I think Estebanus means he said he had like $50.

More like €753.000...


That's like, $820 or something. I haz moar tahn tat!



*facepalm*

you know that's almost 1.000.000, right?

The joke was about the fact that you used European decimals instead of US commas to designate thousands.

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DrTsoni wrote...


That's a good point and definitely possible. But why would he fly off if the beam was the only way up to the Citadel and TIM was on the Citadel? Or are we still considering that a hallucination?


Well, arent Sovereign-class Reapers like Harby like 2km tall? Maybe he's too big to use the beam.