Aller au contenu

Photo

Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


55528 réponses à ce sujet

#5501
balance5050

balance5050
  • Members
  • 5 245 messages

Makrys wrote...

*cough* back to IT discussion so thread doesn't get locked again *cough*

Anything new? Just droppin' in as I do occasionally.


I just dropped in to, I find it interesting that the high pitched tone synced with the crucible beam then suddenly it dissapeared from my save, I think Bioware intentionally triggers noises to occur at certain points and other times it won't trigger during those same points.

I think DJBare posted a vid that had Shep hearing footsteps in his cabin.

And I still say I heard the tone at the beginning of the game right before we see the kid the first time.

#5502
HiddenKING

HiddenKING
  • Members
  • 2 135 messages

Arian Dynas wrote...

HiddenKING wrote...

bigstig wrote...

Dammit, 2000 pages in a stupid troll spoils the fun - Can we get him banned?


I'ma make this my new forum signature. :happy:


And yeah I was banned for a bit ^_^


I am saying only one thing to you, and no more.

The thread was closed, according to Priestly himself, because it was too long. Not by anything from your effort.

Now, I am done with you. Begone.


Stay delusional if you want, but errbody knows it was all me. 

But don't worry, I no longer have an interest in y'all Indoctrination Idealists, or your little hypothesis. I got a bigger target to troll now. :devil:

#5503
D.Sharrah

D.Sharrah
  • Members
  • 1 579 messages

blooregard wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Go away for the most of a day and you lose 30 pages...so can anyone give me the Cliff notes of what has gone on today?


Umm nothing new I think. 



That's...just a little disappointing...in that case, here are a couple fo points that I made yesterday that I never saw discussed much as the thread was swept way in the tide of the current discussion...

1. Symbolism of color
2.  Ending sequence from Fight Club
3.  Conduit as the trap (rather than the Crucible)

And go...

#5504
balance5050

balance5050
  • Members
  • 5 245 messages
Stay focused guys, please.

You only see that final frame of the Normandy in the destroy ending?

#5505
Unschuld

Unschuld
  • Members
  • 3 468 messages

ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...
In all of my playthroughs i ALWAYS have Javik step out the Normandy..
Why is that? I tried not using him once throughout the entire game, and he still shows up at the end


GAH! Glad I'm not the only one with this problem!

Maybe it's a sign? lol.

#5506
paxxton

paxxton
  • Members
  • 8 445 messages

blooregard wrote...

paxxton wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Well at least Udine was right about one thing " Do the words political S***storm mean anything to you?" And I miss spelled his name on purpose because I don't give a dame for him after he almost made me kill Ashly my LI.


ashley is your LI?  


I dont like her. I think bioware purposely made the two most physically attractive women in the game to have horrible personalities on purpose. was probably supposed to be some kind of lesson....

Miranda has a good personality if you get to know her.



I never understood the hatred towards Ash. I almost always choose her as a LI and she's always my VS. 

Hell if I ever get around to doing that femshep run I've been meaning to do I'll likely pick Ash as my VS since Kaiden in my opinion is leutenent Blandy McBoring

Ashley is a speciest. She was my LI in ME1 and haunted me till ME3. Fortunately, Miranda was around in ME2 and ME3. :P
 I went back to ME1, romanced Liara and left her on Virmire. Posted Image Though it's a bit strange after all those playthroughs to not have her around. Posted Image She was ok in ME3.

Modifié par paxxton, 24 mai 2012 - 04:21 .


#5507
D.Sharrah

D.Sharrah
  • Members
  • 1 579 messages

Arian Dynas wrote...

Anywho, hello folks. Working on my script again, almost have it ready for yet more of your enjoyment, but I find myself blocked, when it comes to the Crucible, the scenes I seem to keep writing for them just continually drag, and yet every single one is necessary to understand the whole thing. This is proving difficult.



Have you considered using the waking nightmare Theory in conjuction with the Conduit as the trap and that we never actually got to the "real" Citadel or Crucible...and that we will need to have the Citadel Defense War Asset pass a check when we "wake up" in order to get those two things...

#5508
gunslinger_ruiz

gunslinger_ruiz
  • Members
  • 1 650 messages

balance5050 wrote...

Stay focused guys, please.

You only see that final frame of the Normandy in the destroy ending?


Somone mentioned you can see it in the Synthesis ending...or maybe it was Control, definitely one of them.

You mean this screen right?
Posted Image

May just be cut cinematic to fit with the music, like the Control ending does compared to the other 2. Or maybe it's another piece of the puzzle.

#5509
gunslinger_ruiz

gunslinger_ruiz
  • Members
  • 1 650 messages

Unschuld wrote...

ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...
In all of my playthroughs i ALWAYS have Javik step out the Normandy..
Why is that? I tried not using him once throughout the entire game, and he still shows up at the end


GAH! Glad I'm not the only one with this problem!

Maybe it's a sign? lol.


Same with ALL of my playthroughs, thought it might be a DLC kind of a bug. The game sees you have Javik so it gives you Javik. Or, since I kept talking to the guy, it shows him because he's had the highest approval rating for my Shepards. But I'm curious why it wouldn't show the Virmire Survivor or Garrus or Tali, they've been with my Shepard's the longest and I always manage to save them throughout the trilogy/help them out/BS around on the Normandy or Citadel.

#5510
D.Sharrah

D.Sharrah
  • Members
  • 1 579 messages
Just a thought...we were told pre-launch that losing to the Reapers was going to be a possible outcome to the game...and I think that most here would agree that "giving in" to indoctrination could be the simplest case of this...but are there other "losing scenarios" that you would find acceptable? For example, needing specific War Assets to pass a check in order to trigger an event that leads to a better outcome - not high enough (and not enough of your assets pass checks, you lose)?

#5511
balance5050

balance5050
  • Members
  • 5 245 messages

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Stay focused guys, please.

You only see that final frame of the Normandy in the destroy ending?


Somone mentioned you can see it in the Synthesis ending...or maybe it was Control, definitely one of them.

You mean this screen right?
snip

May just be cut cinematic to fit with the music, like the Control ending does compared to the other 2. Or maybe it's another piece of the puzzle.


Yeah that's it, it pretty much looks like it fell apart while travelling at FTL speeds, at least 12x the speed of light. And they manage to safely land on a habitable planet in the very next frame?

The odds of this happening is unfathomable, and I refuse to accept even a "clarified" version of it.

#5512
gunslinger_ruiz

gunslinger_ruiz
  • Members
  • 1 650 messages

balance5050 wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Stay focused guys, please.

You only see that final frame of the Normandy in the destroy ending?


Somone mentioned you can see it in the Synthesis ending...or maybe it was Control, definitely one of them.

You mean this screen right?
snip

May just be cut cinematic to fit with the music, like the Control ending does compared to the other 2. Or maybe it's another piece of the puzzle.


Yeah that's it, it pretty much looks like it fell apart while travelling at FTL speeds, at least 12x the speed of light. And they manage to safely land on a habitable planet in the very next frame?

The odds of this happening is unfathomable, and I refuse to accept even a "clarified" version of it.


On top of that you can actually see the body of the Normandy twisting almost compeltely around, and tearing away from it's engines. Then it looks mostly in one piece on the jungle planet, with at least some squad/crew surviving without injury (you'd need some serious motion dampeners to avoid being a stain on the wall of the Normandy during that twisting, especially Joker), so that's another odd thing.

#5513
Guest_ll PAYASO323 ll_*

Guest_ll PAYASO323 ll_*
  • Guests

Unschuld wrote...

ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...
In all of my playthroughs i ALWAYS have Javik step out the Normandy..
Why is that? I tried not using him once throughout the entire game, and he still shows up at the end


GAH! Glad I'm not the only one with this problem!

Maybe it's a sign? lol.

lol "Javik: The Last Trollthean"
this guy just loves trolling the final cinematic!

#5514
D.Sharrah

D.Sharrah
  • Members
  • 1 579 messages
My time here is never long enough, but today (tonight where I am) it is extraordinarily short - I was up early for work and must now go to bed...that way I can fall behind again to try to catch up tomorrow.

#5515
paxxton

paxxton
  • Members
  • 8 445 messages

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Stay focused guys, please.

You only see that final frame of the Normandy in the destroy ending?


Somone mentioned you can see it in the Synthesis ending...or maybe it was Control, definitely one of them.

You mean this screen right?
Posted Image

May just be cut cinematic to fit with the music, like the Control ending does compared to the other 2. Or maybe it's another piece of the puzzle.

It's in Destroy with low EMS (vaporization).

#5516
StElmo

StElmo
  • Members
  • 4 997 messages
Has anyone been able to analyze the model of starchild to see if he really does smile when shepard choses control?

#5517
dmay7

dmay7
  • Members
  • 368 messages

StElmo wrote...

Has anyone been able to analyze the model of starchild to see if he really does smile when shepard choses control?


ReaperBieber the Starbinger is too 'beamy' to tell. But I thought it curious why they would want you to see his reaction to the Control choice, whereas Destroy he 'flucuates' and synthesis you dont even see him.

#5518
Rifneno

Rifneno
  • Members
  • 12 076 messages
Somebody do a count, I bet we have three times as many "omg omg omg omg, get back on topic QUICK BEFORE THE MODS COME" posts than we have posts that are actually off topic.

#5519
dmay7

dmay7
  • Members
  • 368 messages

Rifneno wrote...

Somebody do a count, I bet we have three times as many "omg omg omg omg, get back on topic QUICK BEFORE THE MODS COME" posts than we have posts that are actually off topic.


http://i32.tinypic.com/2ldzo13.jpg 

can't post pics yet...

#5520
Guest_ll PAYASO323 ll_*

Guest_ll PAYASO323 ll_*
  • Guests

dmay7 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Somebody do a count, I bet we have three times as many "omg omg omg omg, get back on topic QUICK BEFORE THE MODS COME" posts than we have posts that are actually off topic.


http://i32.tinypic.com/2ldzo13.jpg 

can't post pics yet...

Posted Image

I GOT YOU, HOMIE

#5521
dmay7

dmay7
  • Members
  • 368 messages

ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

dmay7 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Somebody do a count, I bet we have three times as many "omg omg omg omg, get back on topic QUICK BEFORE THE MODS COME" posts than we have posts that are actually off topic.


http://i32.tinypic.com/2ldzo13.jpg 

can't post pics yet...

Posted Image

I GOT YOU, HOMIE

Cheers mate!

Modifié par dmay7, 24 mai 2012 - 04:36 .


#5522
Rifneno

Rifneno
  • Members
  • 12 076 messages

ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

dmay7 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Somebody do a count, I bet we have three times as many "omg omg omg omg, get back on topic QUICK BEFORE THE MODS COME" posts than we have posts that are actually off topic.


http://i32.tinypic.com/2ldzo13.jpg 

can't post pics yet...

Posted Image

I GOT YOU, HOMIE


Boring.

Posted Image

#5523
TheConstantOne

TheConstantOne
  • Members
  • 463 messages

reap28 wrote...

 Hi first time poster in the fourms long time lurker idk if this was pointed out before but...

I want to go back to that thorian indoc thing I think it has a bigger role to play.
This is extreme straw grasping so just bear with me here

This is in part from that viral marketing thing they did a while back with the pics/codes and stuff but one was 55.485, the atomic weight of iron. Now the thorian is located on feros (now the straws come out) ferro which the latian root is ferr which means iron ferro is close to fero so yeah.
Now all thats left is the S at the end and assuming we are dealing with science and chem S is the symbol for sulfur ,now iron plus sulfur then leads to iron-sulfur protein/word theroy. Those two things are set proposals on the origin or life and possibly the thorian in the start of sentient life or something. I really dont know what this has to do with anything or I am thinking way to much into it.  (sorry for poor grammar and spelling and being way off topic ) 

Links: http://en.wikipedia....ur_world_theory
http://dictionary.re...owse/ferro?s=ts

http://en.wikipedia....-sulfur_protein


I think it is grasping for straws but hey, still an interesting idea. The best part about this thread is that it makes people question EVERYTHING haha

That's why I haven't commented in a while. Most of my ideas are spent; I'm just a news commentator now haha

#5524
Rifneno

Rifneno
  • Members
  • 12 076 messages

TheConstantOne wrote...

I think it is grasping for straws but hey, still an interesting idea. The best part about this thread is that it makes people question EVERYTHING haha

That's why I haven't commented in a while. Most of my ideas are spent; I'm just a news commentator now haha


I've got one that's kind of... out there.  I haven't mentioned it because I figure I'll get lots of "lulz grasping @ straws no mergency inducktion ports!!!!!!!1111111" posts (seriously, I hate memes).  But what the hell.  Forewarning people, I am NOT saying that this IS the case, just a random thought I'm throwing out there.

Quoteth the greatest gestalt intelligence ever:

Legion said...

"Nazara. That was what the programs within the Reaper called themselves. "Sovereign" was a title given by Saren Arterius. Saren and the heretics believed Nazara to be a surpreme ruler. A sovereign."


One of the symptoms of indoctrination is viewing the Reapers with "superstitious awe."  Sounds like it had a hand in Saren's giving him that dubious title.  What if it's the same way Harbinger got his "name"?  Think about it.  We just hear Harbinger's voice in our, Shepard's, mind.  There's no evidence that anyone else ever heard that voice.  The only time someone besides Shepard mentions it in ME2 is one of TIM's synopsises of a mission.  He probably read it in Shepard's report and even if not, TIM is mildly indoctrinated himself at that point.

Harbinger, like Sovereign, is a word with a meaning.  A foreboding one.  Nazara means nothing (at least in English, and all kinds of meaningless stuff translates to something in other languages).  If Nazara was Sovereign's actual name, why would Harbinger's really be "Harbinger"?  Doesn't make sense.  Unless it was Shepard's awed subconscious from the early stages of indoctrination simply trying to interpret things.

#5525
Arian Dynas

Arian Dynas
  • Members
  • 3 799 messages

Rifneno wrote...

TheConstantOne wrote...

I think it is grasping for straws but hey, still an interesting idea. The best part about this thread is that it makes people question EVERYTHING haha

That's why I haven't commented in a while. Most of my ideas are spent; I'm just a news commentator now haha


I've got one that's kind of... out there.  I haven't mentioned it because I figure I'll get lots of "lulz grasping @ straws no mergency inducktion ports!!!!!!!1111111" posts (seriously, I hate memes).  But what the hell.  Forewarning people, I am NOT saying that this IS the case, just a random thought I'm throwing out there.

Quoteth the greatest gestalt intelligence ever:

Legion said...

"Nazara. That was what the programs within the Reaper called themselves. "Sovereign" was a title given by Saren Arterius. Saren and the heretics believed Nazara to be a surpreme ruler. A sovereign."


One of the symptoms of indoctrination is viewing the Reapers with "superstitious awe."  Sounds like it had a hand in Saren's giving him that dubious title.  What if it's the same way Harbinger got his "name"?  Think about it.  We just hear Harbinger's voice in our, Shepard's, mind.  There's no evidence that anyone else ever heard that voice.  The only time someone besides Shepard mentions it in ME2 is one of TIM's synopsises of a mission.  He probably read it in Shepard's report and even if not, TIM is mildly indoctrinated himself at that point.

Harbinger, like Sovereign, is a word with a meaning.  A foreboding one.  Nazara means nothing (at least in English, and all kinds of meaningless stuff translates to something in other languages).  If Nazara was Sovereign's actual name, why would Harbinger's really be "Harbinger"?  Doesn't make sense.  Unless it was Shepard's awed subconscious from the early stages of indoctrination simply trying to interpret things.


Actually, according to the codex, several colonists have heard it refer to itself with the name Harbinger. Check the codex for Collector General, Mass Effect 2.

And Nazara actually does translate to something (Hindi I beleive it is, I could be wrong.) Translating out as "perfection"

More than likely, Harbinger is a title that Harbinger itself adopted, so that it's prey would know what to call it. 

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 24 mai 2012 - 05:02 .