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[MaximizedAction]

RavenEyry wrote...

comrade gando wrote...
the people who actually use their brains and realize what's going on

There are plenty of people who don't agree with us who are perfectly intelligent. They just get drowned out by the stupid sometimes.

Like me for example between March and April.

(Though I'm neither intelligent, nor are individual anti IT stupid, it's more of a group stupidity)

[TSA_383]

RavenEyry wrote...

Th biggest indicator to me is the explosions starting in the wrong place.

That's the biggest indicator?

Not the complete abandonment of Mass Effect's message, nor all the "THIS ISN'T REAL SHERLOCK" stuff in the end sequences?

Honestly the explosion thing could be an innocent mistake - certainly nobody's really called them on it in a very public manner...

[JasonSic]

TSA_383 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Th biggest indicator to me is the explosions starting in the wrong place.

That's the biggest indicator?

Not the complete abandonment of Mass Effect's message, nor all the "THIS ISN'T REAL SHERLOCK" stuff in the end sequences?

Honestly the explosion thing could be an innocent mistake - certainly nobody's really called them on it in a very public manner...

Yes, but if it was a mistake they would have fixed it with EC.

[comrade gando]

when I first saw this thread (the original) and saw all the videos and analysis stuff, I was like "hollyyy smack, bioware you clever devils" and waited for EC to "clarify". sadly it didn't really, and I was disappoint. then I realized EC wasn't planned, and there's no way it took them over 3 months to do just that. there has to be more to this.

[RavenEyry]

TSA_383 wrote...

That's the biggest indicator?

Just the biggest to me. The sheer amount of things and how much sense it makes is the reason I'm on your side, not a single thing. I was just noting the point where it goes from "This is wierd" to "You gotta be ***tting me!"

[Rosewind]

RavenEyry wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

That's the biggest indicator?

Just the biggest to me. The sheer amount of things and how much sense it makes is the reason I'm on your side, not a single thing. I was just noting the point where it goes from "This is wierd" to "You gotta be ***tting me!"

The biggest thing for me is (okay mayeb not the biggest thing lol but a wtf moment)

"We were created to stop sythenics killing organics"
"What happened to your creators?"
"We killed them and made them into one of us"
"Okay......."

[Turbo_J]

comrade gando wrote...

elegolas1 wrote...

Do you guys still think that a "real ending" DLC will come out to reveal IT?
What is the future of the IT?

I am leaning more in the direction of the IT being an ambiguous interpretation. Intentional, but never meant to be expanded upon. Would you be satisfied with something like that?

that's what I fear most out of this situation. they leave the ending ambiguous and just... never expand on it. just leave the ending on a cliff hanger forever and just not care. that imo is the cruelest thing they could do regarding mass effect. have a game where the story progresses based on your choices, then give you a no-choice at the end, with a ton of hints and references that something isn't right then just never explain it.

about IT reveal, how would they market that? "real ending" sounds suspiciously like what capcom did and that didn't go over well with the fans.

This is not a possible scenario. They have to reveal something at some point because they cannot move forward with the series with the type of divergence that currently exists with an ambiguous ending.

One way or another, there will be a conon path moving forward.

[MaximizedAction]

Turbo_J wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

elegolas1 wrote...

Do you guys still think that a "real ending" DLC will come out to reveal IT?
What is the future of the IT?

I am leaning more in the direction of the IT being an ambiguous interpretation. Intentional, but never meant to be expanded upon. Would you be satisfied with something like that?

that's what I fear most out of this situation. they leave the ending ambiguous and just... never expand on it. just leave the ending on a cliff hanger forever and just not care. that imo is the cruelest thing they could do regarding mass effect. have a game where the story progresses based on your choices, then give you a no-choice at the end, with a ton of hints and references that something isn't right then just never explain it.

about IT reveal, how would they market that? "real ending" sounds suspiciously like what capcom did and that didn't go over well with the fans.

This is not a possible scenario. They have to reveal something at some point because they cannot move forward with the series with the type of divergence that currently exists with an ambiguous ending.

One way or another, there will be a conon path moving forward.

Or they really do leave the future at that (like what Star Wars Episode 6 and Star Trek 10 did), and only look at timelines before that...

[Turbo_J]

30 year window in the ME Universe all leading up to crap... I won't buy anything that comes before the end of ME3 unless it's a DLC that progresses the story.

Besides, it will be pretty stupid having thermal clips and advanced human biotic powers at a time when there aren't supposed to be either. I'm not sure going backwards is a good idea for a lot of reasons.

Modifié par Turbo_J, 30 juillet 2012 - 03:56 .

[Rosewind]

Turbo_J wrote...

30 year window in the ME Universe all leading up to crap... I won't buy anything that comes before the end of ME3 unless it's a DLC that progresses the story.

Besides, it will be pretty stupid having thermal clips and advanced human biotic powers at a time when there aren't supposed to be either. I'm not sure going backwards is a good idea for a lot of reasons.

Agreed, it will just be one those genric human v alien space shooters/

[MaximizedAction]

Rosewind wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

30 year window in the ME Universe all leading up to crap... I won't buy anything that comes before the end of ME3 unless it's a DLC that progresses the story.

Besides, it will be pretty stupid having thermal clips and advanced human biotic powers at a time when there aren't supposed to be either. I'm not sure going backwards is a good idea for a lot of reasons.

Agreed, it will just be one those genric human v alien space shooters/

If IT is true (i.e. if more is coming), then I will stay with ME games that are produced by Casey's team. If not....well, then there's hardly any content-wise quality-assurance going on. *nothingtodohere.jpg*

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 30 juillet 2012 - 04:09 .

[masster blaster]

Rosewind wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

30 year window in the ME Universe all leading up to crap... I won't buy anything that comes before the end of ME3 unless it's a DLC that progresses the story.

Besides, it will be pretty stupid having thermal clips and advanced human biotic powers at a time when there aren't supposed to be either. I'm not sure going backwards is a good idea for a lot of reasons.

Agreed, it will just be one those genric human v alien space shooters/

Ya unless they are going to pull a reven on us. God damn it I hate that they just got rif of Reven like that. And I hope that's not going to happen like Shepard. " oh Shepard went into dark space, and-" Bull****.

[Arian Dynas]

Bushido Effect wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Bushido Effect wrote...

Oh, so this a multiplayer thread now? Lets dance!!

IT is on life support anyway.

IT is intact and awesome, but after >4300 pages we've really discussed pretty much everything there is in the game...
Really we're just waiting for the Leviathan DLC to get announced, which should be imminent.

4300?!?  My screen shows the pages are in the 2000's.  You can change the page settings on this?  Couldn't find it...

WE ARE INFINITE BEYOND YOUR UNDERSTANDING.

YOU CANNOT RESIST.

WE KNOW THIS HURTS YOU.

[Arian Dynas]

comrade gando wrote...

elegolas1 wrote...

Do you guys still think that a "real ending" DLC will come out to reveal IT?
What is the future of the IT?

I am leaning more in the direction of the IT being an ambiguous interpretation. Intentional, but never meant to be expanded upon. Would you be satisfied with something like that?

that's what I fear most out of this situation. they leave the ending ambiguous and just... never expand on it. just leave the ending on a cliff hanger forever and just not care. that imo is the cruelest thing they could do regarding mass effect. have a game where the story progresses based on your choices, then give you a no-choice at the end, with a ton of hints and references that something isn't right then just never explain it.

about IT reveal, how would they market that? "real ending" sounds suspiciously like what capcom did and that didn't go over well with the fans.

Sigh.

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There's one possibility. See it can be done. Either way, knock it off, I am really REALLY getting sick of this ****ing and moaning coming out of you.

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 30 juillet 2012 - 04:33 .

[Schachmatt123]

Rosewind wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

That's the biggest indicator?

Just the biggest to me. The sheer amount of things and how much sense it makes is the reason I'm on your side, not a single thing. I was just noting the point where it goes from "This is wierd" to "You gotta be ***tting me!"

The biggest thing for me is (okay mayeb not the biggest thing lol but a wtf moment)

"We were created to stop sythenics killing organics"
"What happened to your creators?"
"We killed them and made them into one of us"
"Okay......."

When you get to destroy, it's even better: 'But be warned, you might kill those other poor synthetics. You know the evil ones who will inevitable destroy you ...'

And people who take the catalyst literally and believe him refuse to pick destroy ... you know, you might kill a few 'evil synthetics' ...

[Arian Dynas]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

30 year window in the ME Universe all leading up to crap... I won't buy anything that comes before the end of ME3 unless it's a DLC that progresses the story.

Besides, it will be pretty stupid having thermal clips and advanced human biotic powers at a time when there aren't supposed to be either. I'm not sure going backwards is a good idea for a lot of reasons.

Agreed, it will just be one those genric human v alien space shooters/

If IT is true (i.e. if more is coming), then I will stay with ME games that are produced by Casey's team. If not....well, then there's hardly any content-wise quality-assurance going on. *nothingtodohere.jpg*

Even if they are, I will still look into them.

Out there is just as much **** as those could be, and if nothing else, Bioware STILL makes better characters than everyone else.

I might as well get stuck with suck from people I like than from people I don't.

[MaximizedAction]

Arian Dynas wrote...

There's one possibility. See it can be done. Either way, knock it off, I am really REALLY getting sick of this ****ing and moaning coming out of you.

Man, cool it down. Someone messed with your Zen?
If we were fine with everything then we wouldn't be discussing it...and from time to time, every faith needs to be restored. Nothing bad about that.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 30 juillet 2012 - 04:42 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Schachmatt wrote...

When you get to destroy, it's even better: 'But be warned, you might kill those other poor synthetics. You know the evil ones who will inevitable destroy you ...'

And people who take the catalyst literally and believe him refuse to pick destroy ... you know, you might kill a few 'evil synthetics' ...

Lol

Chosing Control or Synthesis means trusting the Catalyst word and you probably picked one of them to save the Geth...but if you trust the catalyst the Geth will turn upon you at some time...

I dident actually realize that part of the Catalyst stupidity 

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 30 juillet 2012 - 04:55 .

[masster blaster]

Oh Turbo are you done with the videos yet, and Hellish too? I know I keep asking but there is nothing to speculate on, and I am going back through some old pages to see if there is anything we missed.

[paxxton]

I'm extremely pleased to announce that my Galaxy Map is at 100% Readiness in all regions.

Modifié par paxxton, 30 juillet 2012 - 05:06 .

[Arian Dynas]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

There's one possibility. See it can be done. Either way, knock it off, I am really REALLY getting sick of this ****ing and moaning coming out of you.

Man, cool it down. Someone messed with your Zen?
If we were fine with everything then we wouldn't be discussing it...and from time to time, every faith needs to be restored. Nothing bad about that.

I know, and I agree. But Gando has been in here complaining since the EC.

We KEEP giving him things to feel better with, and information to think about, but every time he still comes in to whine. And I am getting REAL sick and tired of it.

[Jere85]

Your comment to me being new is a LIE Rosewind , been here since the beginning... just not as active anymore, doesnt mean i dont care, so be nice.

[Humakt83]

Turbo_J wrote...

30 year window in the ME Universe all leading up to crap... I won't buy anything that comes before the end of ME3 unless it's a DLC that progresses the story.

Besides, it will be pretty stupid having thermal clips and advanced human biotic powers at a time when there aren't supposed to be either. I'm not sure going backwards is a good idea for a lot of reasons.

You are not going back far enough. Rachni Wars and Krogan Rebellions could make a nice trilogy if the main character is Asari or Krogan.

Of course, there wouldn't be any humans.

Modifié par Humakt83, 30 juillet 2012 - 05:08 .

[Eryri]

MaximizedAction wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

elegolas1 wrote...

Do you guys still think that a "real ending" DLC will come out to reveal IT?
What is the future of the IT?

I am leaning more in the direction of the IT being an ambiguous interpretation. Intentional, but never meant to be expanded upon. Would you be satisfied with something like that?

that's what I fear most out of this situation. they leave the ending ambiguous and just... never expand on it. just leave the ending on a cliff hanger forever and just not care. that imo is the cruelest thing they could do regarding mass effect. have a game where the story progresses based on your choices, then give you a no-choice at the end, with a ton of hints and references that something isn't right then just never explain it.

about IT reveal, how would they market that? "real ending" sounds suspiciously like what capcom did and that didn't go over well with the fans.

People would just need to look up the definition of DLC.
In theory, an expansion on the ending isn't really a 'real ending to ME3'. The game has an ending, it's the one that nearly no gaming magazine cared to go into detail or critisize during the initial reviews, but the fans did.

However, the war with the Reapers could be still going on.

It all comes down to whether or not you choose to distinguish the Reaper war story from the game on the disc.

In my opinion, such a huge galactic war is such a great opportunity to use DLC to the full capacity of the principle, and not really ending the war with the core game also helps keeping up this ARG they kept doing with the ANN. It's like a hybrid between classic SP game with MP part and an online RPG -- keep adding material/chapters/seasons over time.

Maybe this is how Bioware is testing the capability of ME as a franchise for an online RPG...or are even looking into a new hybrid genre.

That's a very interesting take on it. Although personally I hope they don't go full-on MMO. I've never actually played one, but they seem a little bit too much like time and money sinks, especially for a slightly obsessive personality like mine.

Another alternative would be to package it with content for the pre Chronos Station portion of the game - such as the expected Leviathan or Omega DLCs. That way the new ending content would seem like a sweetener to a significant content pack that we would probably buy anyway - rather than a small but crucial piece of content that had been deliberately held back.

Modifié par Eryri, 30 juillet 2012 - 05:21 .

[legaldinho]

Arian Dynas wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

30 year window in the ME Universe all leading up to crap... I won't buy anything that comes before the end of ME3 unless it's a DLC that progresses the story.

Besides, it will be pretty stupid having thermal clips and advanced human biotic powers at a time when there aren't supposed to be either. I'm not sure going backwards is a good idea for a lot of reasons.

Agreed, it will just be one those genric human v alien space shooters/

If IT is true (i.e. if more is coming), then I will stay with ME games that are produced by Casey's team. If not....well, then there's hardly any content-wise quality-assurance going on. *nothingtodohere.jpg*

Even if they are, I will still look into them.

Out there is just as much **** as those could be, and if nothing else, Bioware STILL makes better characters than everyone else.

I might as well get stuck with suck from people I like than from people I don't.

I actually think, regardless of the ending, ME3 (and the ME series as a whole) is miles ahead of any other sci fi games out there. So personally I don't think I'm going to ignore their future output.

I am, however, going to watch closely how EA's mastery of the purse strings affects that output. I would have liked a good ending, with an alternative interpretation which blows your mind. I still don't think a "reveal" DLC or add-on or even sequel is on the cards. If it turns out they made an ambiguous ending just to keep me spending... Well, today I dumped a large pouch of tobacco in the bin. Yesterday, I was its slave. I know I won't like it, but I'm not touching any more cigs. And that's a physical addiction. EA beware. Don't push it.

I hope y'all are right and we do get a reveal. But I don't think we will. I still think that leaves IT the preferrable reading of the game's events at the end. And by that I don't mean "headcanon".