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[EpyonX3]

llbountyhunter wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

blooregard wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

OK guys and gals here it is.

http://i49.tinypic.com/dousck.png


What is this object sticking out of the Crucible before it dock? Notice that it's round like a pillar and doesn't look like the prongs we see right as it is connecting. It's possible that this ejects into the citadel just as it docks.

Check this out. If Shepard was on the Citadel, then where are all of the features of the decision room?
http://i48.tinypic.com/ncfrq0.png


They're not there because it's not part of the Citadel. I'll produce an image later but the energy that comes from the crucible flows down a cylindrical structure similar to that of the first image.

And look at this!
http://i50.tinypic.com/29kt0ux.png

The prongs seem so expand but that cylinder is still visible. Shepard is standing on the cylinder. If this is true, this will explain how:

1) Shepard is breathing after he picks destory, the crucible has its own life support
2) How there are items from the normandy on the platform
3) And how Shepard is breathing before picking an option (Point 1)

You get an A for effort.

Yeah, I'll give him that much.

shortly after this Epyon will make a SOCT (shepard on crucible theory) thread, that he will shamelesly advertise but will be largely ingnored. 

Good Idea lol. But nah I'm not into making theories.

[RavenEyry]

Dwailing wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I think Epyon is saying the 'choice chamber' opens from the front of the crucible and connects to the flat tower base. In this case looking up would show the rest of the crucible, would show stars to the side and could even have a life support field. It actually makes a lot of sense.

That's.... surprisingly possible.  That doesn't fix the obvious problems with the designs for actually ACTIVATING it, though....

Well yeah, modifying an existing citadel structure makes more sense than actively designing the crucible to require pipe shooting to work.

[llbountyhunter]

EpyonX3 wrote...

The decision chamber is more visible in this picture. Come really think about it.

intersting...interesting...

[MegumiAzusa]

Dwailing wrote...

blooregard wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

OK guys and gals here it is.

http://i49.tinypic.com/dousck.png


What is this object sticking out of the Crucible before it dock? Notice that it's round like a pillar and doesn't look like the prongs we see right as it is connecting. It's possible that this ejects into the citadel just as it docks.

Check this out. If Shepard was on the Citadel, then where are all of the features of the decision room?
http://i48.tinypic.com/ncfrq0.png


They're not there because it's not part of the Citadel. I'll produce an image later but the energy that comes from the crucible flows down a cylindrical structure similar to that of the first image.

And look at this!
http://i50.tinypic.com/29kt0ux.png

The prongs seem so expand but that cylinder is still visible. Shepard is standing on the cylinder. If this is true, this will explain how:

1) Shepard is breathing after he picks destory, the crucible has its own life support
2) How there are items from the normandy on the platform
3) And how Shepard is breathing before picking an option (Point 1)

You get an A for effort.

Yeah, I'll give him that much.

So you are saying that part pierced the bottom of the Citadel Tower?

[Big Bad]

Are there any vertical support beams connecting the decision platform to the crucible?

[MegumiAzusa]

RavenEyry wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I think Epyon is saying the 'choice chamber' opens from the front of the crucible and connects to the flat tower base. In this case looking up would show the rest of the crucible, would show stars to the side and could even have a life support field. It actually makes a lot of sense.

That's.... surprisingly possible.  That doesn't fix the obvious problems with the designs for actually ACTIVATING it, though....

Well yeah, modifying an existing citadel structure makes more sense than actively designing the crucible to require pipe shooting to work.

The problem here is that they aren't connected later on which doesn't make much sense.

[llbountyhunter]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

blooregard wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

OK guys and gals here it is.

http://i49.tinypic.com/dousck.png


What is this object sticking out of the Crucible before it dock? Notice that it's round like a pillar and doesn't look like the prongs we see right as it is connecting. It's possible that this ejects into the citadel just as it docks.

Check this out. If Shepard was on the Citadel, then where are all of the features of the decision room?
http://i48.tinypic.com/ncfrq0.png


They're not there because it's not part of the Citadel. I'll produce an image later but the energy that comes from the crucible flows down a cylindrical structure similar to that of the first image.

And look at this!
http://i50.tinypic.com/29kt0ux.png

The prongs seem so expand but that cylinder is still visible. Shepard is standing on the cylinder. If this is true, this will explain how:

1) Shepard is breathing after he picks destory, the crucible has its own life support
2) How there are items from the normandy on the platform
3) And how Shepard is breathing before picking an option (Point 1)

You get an A for effort.

Yeah, I'll give him that much.

So you are saying that part pierced the bottom of the Citadel Tower?

nice picture! is that a flycam? 


sorry epyon...

[RavenEyry]

By the way, Epyon's theory means the crucible was also designed by the same people as the citadel and reapers, or why else would the citadel have a lift up to the crucible.

EDIT: I've just noticed the flycam pic shows there's nothing connecting the platform to the crucible, so it probably is on the citadel.

Modifié par RavenEyry, 24 mai 2012 - 04:47 .

[UrgedDuke]

EpyonX3 wrote...

The decision chamber is more visible in this picture. Come really think about it.

what are you talking about, this pic is blurry as s**t

[EpyonX3]

llbountyhunter wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

blooregard wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

OK guys and gals here it is.

http://i49.tinypic.com/dousck.png


What is this object sticking out of the Crucible before it dock? Notice that it's round like a pillar and doesn't look like the prongs we see right as it is connecting. It's possible that this ejects into the citadel just as it docks.

Check this out. If Shepard was on the Citadel, then where are all of the features of the decision room?
http://i48.tinypic.com/ncfrq0.png


They're not there because it's not part of the Citadel. I'll produce an image later but the energy that comes from the crucible flows down a cylindrical structure similar to that of the first image.

And look at this!
http://i50.tinypic.com/29kt0ux.png

The prongs seem so expand but that cylinder is still visible. Shepard is standing on the cylinder. If this is true, this will explain how:

1) Shepard is breathing after he picks destory, the crucible has its own life support
2) How there are items from the normandy on the platform
3) And how Shepard is breathing before picking an option (Point 1)

You get an A for effort.

Yeah, I'll give him that much.

So you are saying that part pierced the bottom of the Citadel Tower?

nice picture! is that a flycam? 


sorry epyon...

That's actually my flycam. I was looking for a way to take a pic of it but he beat me to it.

This image is the crucible, not the citadel tower. If you look at the citadel tower's base, it's much larger than this. The crucible is either sitting on top of the base and transfers energy that way or it piecred the tower onto the base and then connected to the platform.

[HellishFiend]

UrgedDuke wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

The decision chamber is more visible in this picture. Come really think about it.

*abstract blur snip*

what are you talking about, this pic is blurry as s**t

It's starting to reach the borderline of trolling, at this point. 

[HellishFiend]

HellishFiend wrote...

Firstly, if you want to take the pictures so seriously, then take a picture of the Citadel as it's blowing up after the Crucible activates. The Crucible is GONE. Not there. Vanished. Explain that?

Moreover, explain why the "catalyst" tells Shepard he's on the Citadel when he asks where he is. 

Additionally, I just feel your rationalization as to why Shepard is on the Crucible is highly implausible, given the visual evidence we have to the contrary. 

Do you have any intention of trying to answer my two questions?

[EpyonX3]

UrgedDuke wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

The decision chamber is more visible in this picture. Come really think about it.

what are you talking about, this pic is blurry as s**t

It's the best I can do. This it a pic of the crucible as it is docking with the citadel. The pointed structure at the end of it is what I believe to be the decision room.

[MegumiAzusa]

EpyonX3 wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

blooregard wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

OK guys and gals here it is.

http://i49.tinypic.com/dousck.png


What is this object sticking out of the Crucible before it dock? Notice that it's round like a pillar and doesn't look like the prongs we see right as it is connecting. It's possible that this ejects into the citadel just as it docks.

Check this out. If Shepard was on the Citadel, then where are all of the features of the decision room?
http://i48.tinypic.com/ncfrq0.png


They're not there because it's not part of the Citadel. I'll produce an image later but the energy that comes from the crucible flows down a cylindrical structure similar to that of the first image.

And look at this!
http://i50.tinypic.com/29kt0ux.png

The prongs seem so expand but that cylinder is still visible. Shepard is standing on the cylinder. If this is true, this will explain how:

1) Shepard is breathing after he picks destory, the crucible has its own life support
2) How there are items from the normandy on the platform
3) And how Shepard is breathing before picking an option (Point 1)

You get an A for effort.

Yeah, I'll give him that much.

So you are saying that part pierced the bottom of the Citadel Tower?

nice picture! is that a flycam? 


sorry epyon...

That's actually my flycam. I was looking for a way to take a pic of it but he beat me to it.

This image is the crucible, not the citadel tower. If you look at the citadel tower's base, it's much larger than this. The crucible is either sitting on top of the base and transfers energy that way or it piecred the tower onto the base and then connected to the platform.

"If you look at the citadel tower's base, it's much larger than this."
If you look at the pin from your screens, it's much smaller than this.

[Parabolee77]

EpyonX3 wrote...

The decision chamber is more visible in this picture. Come really think about it.

I understand what you are trying to say, but again look at this image -



This is a moment before it makes final contact on the left and then the view from the "decision chamber" on the right.

You can see clear as day on the right that the prongs have nothing under them that is part of the crucible, you can see these prongs above you in the "decision chamber" in the image on the right.

So the surface you are stood on is CLEARLY the underside of the platform that the Citadel Tower sits on...

So you are clearly on the Citadel. There can be no mistake about this.

Modifié par Parabolee77, 24 mai 2012 - 04:53 .

[EpyonX3]

HellishFiend wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Firstly, if you want to take the pictures so seriously, then take a picture of the Citadel as it's blowing up after the Crucible activates. The Crucible is GONE. Not there. Vanished. Explain that?

Moreover, explain why the "catalyst" tells Shepard he's on the Citadel when he asks where he is. 

Additionally, I just feel your rationalization as to why Shepard is on the Crucible is highly implausible, given the visual evidence we have to the contrary. 

Do you have any intention of trying to answer my two questions?

I missed your post sorry.

I have to look at it again. I just found these out so I don't have a well thought out explanation to all of it. However, the based on the last pic I posted, it shows the decision chamber before it hits the citadel. No matter where Shep is, the decision room is of Crucible origin.

Technically he's on both the Citadel and the Crucible since the crucible is physically connected to the citadel.

[HellishFiend]

Parabolee77 wrote...

This is a moment before it makes final contact on the left and then the view from the "decision chamber" .

You can see clear as day that the prongs have nothing under them that is part of the crucible, you can see these prongs above you in the "decision chamber". So the surface you are stood on is CLEARLY the underside of the platform that the Citadel Tower sits on...

So you are clearly on the Citadel. There can be no mistake about this.

Agreed. This is getting ridiculous. We're wasting pages debating something that isnt even debatable. 

[llbountyhunter]

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Modifié par llbountyhunter, 24 mai 2012 - 04:53 .

[D.Sharrah]

[quote]HellishFiend wrote...

 [quote]D.Sharrah wrote...
*snip*
.... at the very least Shepard's indoctrination began with the events on Arrival (canon be damned).
[/quote]

You do know Arrival is canon, right? It's absolutely fair game for speculation. 


[quote]

Agreed...more a point to those that don't think Arrival is canon - don't care if you think that Arrival isn't canon, it is.  Could have been more clear there.

[EpyonX3]

Parabolee77 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

The decision chamber is more visible in this picture. Come really think about it.

I understand what you are trying to say, but again look at this image -



This is a moment before it makes final contact on the left and then the view from the "decision chamber" .

You can see clear as day that the prongs have nothing under them that is part of the crucible, you can see these prongs above you in the "decision chamber". So the surface you are stood on is CLEARLY the underside of the platform that the Citadel Tower sits on...

So you are clearly on the Citadel. There can be no mistake about this.

Like I mentioned in the first post, the decision chamber may have released and connected to the citadel during the last phase of docking. Look at the third picture and compare it to the first. The prongs are mor visible on the third picture as it gets closer to the citadel. The base under the prongs(to the right) is further away from the crucible.

[Parabolee77]

HellishFiend wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Firstly, if you want to take the pictures so seriously, then take a picture of the Citadel as it's blowing up after the Crucible activates. The Crucible is GONE. Not there. Vanished. Explain that?

Moreover, explain why the "catalyst" tells Shepard he's on the Citadel when he asks where he is. 

Additionally, I just feel your rationalization as to why Shepard is on the Crucible is highly implausible, given the visual evidence we have to the contrary. 

Do you have any intention of trying to answer my two questions?

The Crucible is not gone, it is behind the Citadel. The Crucible docked from the rear (which is why it meets the underside of the Citadel tower) and we are seeing the Citadel from the front.

[EpyonX3]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

blooregard wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

OK guys and gals here it is.

http://i49.tinypic.com/dousck.png


What is this object sticking out of the Crucible before it dock? Notice that it's round like a pillar and doesn't look like the prongs we see right as it is connecting. It's possible that this ejects into the citadel just as it docks.

Check this out. If Shepard was on the Citadel, then where are all of the features of the decision room?
http://i48.tinypic.com/ncfrq0.png


They're not there because it's not part of the Citadel. I'll produce an image later but the energy that comes from the crucible flows down a cylindrical structure similar to that of the first image.

And look at this!
http://i50.tinypic.com/29kt0ux.png

The prongs seem so expand but that cylinder is still visible. Shepard is standing on the cylinder. If this is true, this will explain how:

1) Shepard is breathing after he picks destory, the crucible has its own life support
2) How there are items from the normandy on the platform
3) And how Shepard is breathing before picking an option (Point 1)

You get an A for effort.

Yeah, I'll give him that much.

So you are saying that part pierced the bottom of the Citadel Tower?

nice picture! is that a flycam? 


sorry epyon...

That's actually my flycam. I was looking for a way to take a pic of it but he beat me to it.

This image is the crucible, not the citadel tower. If you look at the citadel tower's base, it's much larger than this. The crucible is either sitting on top of the base and transfers energy that way or it piecred the tower onto the base and then connected to the platform.

"If you look at the citadel tower's base, it's much larger than this."
If you look at the pin from your screens, it's much smaller than this.

I don't follow u.

[HellishFiend]

EpyonX3 wrote...

I missed your post sorry.

I have to look at it again. I just found these out so I don't have a well thought out explanation to all of it. However, the based on the last pic I posted, it shows the decision chamber before it hits the citadel. No matter where Shep is, the decision room is of Crucible origin.

Technically he's on both the Citadel and the Crucible since the crucible is physically connected to the citadel.

This is the last thing I'm going to say about it, because I feel bad for the people who try to keep up with this thread and are going to have to sift through this nonsense. Take a look at the two pictures in Parabolee77's post. One of them you cant see a thing, the other you can clearly, without a doubt, cross reference Shepard's location as being on the Citadel. If you're not convinced, then fine, we'll just agree to disagree.

[HellishFiend]

Parabolee77 wrote...


The Crucible is not gone, it is behind the Citadel. The Crucible docked from the rear (which is why it meets the underside of the Citadel tower) and we are seeing the Citadel from the front.

No, it's gone. The crucible is so large that you would be able to see it in the empty space within the Presidium ring.  It's not there. 

[Big Bad]

if the entire platform is on the crucible, and shepards arrives from an elevator from lower in the citadel, but when he arrives the crucible is above, i don't see how that makes any sense...especially since there does not appear to be anything connecting the platform to the crucible.