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[balance5050]

llbountyhunter wrote...

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

estebanus wrote...

There are a lot of peopleout there who are saying that the IT is dead because the person who came up with it said that people should stop believing it.

Did I miss something here? Did Byne say that the IT is false? I don't seem to recall that...

Sounds like false gossip. Byne wouldn't do that.

I think they're confusing Byne with Tilax rules all...

Plus, I never claim to be the person who came up with it, I just started the thread that gave birth to it.

Any single person claiming to have come up with it is obviously full of ****. It's a group effort, not the brainchild of any one person.

if anybody came up with IT, its bioware. were just figruing it out.

Pretty much this. Bioware laid the puzzle peices out and we just put them together.

[BatmanTurian]

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

estebanus wrote...

There are a lot of peopleout there who are saying that the IT is dead because the person who came up with it said that people should stop believing it.

Did I miss something here? Did Byne say that the IT is false? I don't seem to recall that...

Sounds like false gossip. Byne wouldn't do that.

I think they're confusing Byne with Tilax rules all...

Plus, I never claim to be the person who came up with it, I just started the thread that gave birth to it.

Any single person claiming to have come up with it is obviously full of ****. It's a group effort, not the brainchild of any one person.

Yeah, I didn't think you came up with it. It's always been a group effort. I suspect it's a purposeful disinformation campaign.

[balance5050]

MaximizedAction wrote...

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

estebanus wrote...

There are a lot of peopleout there who are saying that the IT is dead because the person who came up with it said that people should stop believing it.

Did I miss something here? Did Byne say that the IT is false? I don't seem to recall that...

Sounds like false gossip. Byne wouldn't do that.

I think they're confusing Byne with Tilax rules all...

Plus, I never claim to be the person who came up with it, I just started the thread that gave birth to it.

Any single person claiming to have come up with it is obviously full of ****. It's a group effort, not the brainchild of any one person.

Well, it originated from a googledocs document. Might've been BW themselves ...:bandit:

What? what document?

[llbountyhunter]

MaximizedAction wrote...

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

estebanus wrote...

There are a lot of peopleout there who are saying that the IT is dead because the person who came up with it said that people should stop believing it.

Did I miss something here? Did Byne say that the IT is false? I don't seem to recall that...

Sounds like false gossip. Byne wouldn't do that.

I think they're confusing Byne with Tilax rules all...

Plus, I never claim to be the person who came up with it, I just started the thread that gave birth to it.

Any single person claiming to have come up with it is obviously full of ****. It's a group effort, not the brainchild of any one person.

Well, it originated from a googledocs document. Might've been BW themselves ...:bandit:

actually I heard of IT before I even saw those google docs. 

[byne]

MaximizedAction wrote...

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

estebanus wrote...

There are a lot of peopleout there who are saying that the IT is dead because the person who came up with it said that people should stop believing it.

Did I miss something here? Did Byne say that the IT is false? I don't seem to recall that...

Sounds like false gossip. Byne wouldn't do that.

I think they're confusing Byne with Tilax rules all...

Plus, I never claim to be the person who came up with it, I just started the thread that gave birth to it.

Any single person claiming to have come up with it is obviously full of ****. It's a group effort, not the brainchild of any one person.

Well, it originated from a googledocs document. Might've been BW themselves ...:bandit:

Fairly sure the theory started before that googledocs document.

And if not, I know for sure I started the first thread before I'd ever seen that document.

[estebanus]

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

estebanus wrote...

There are a lot of peopleout there who are saying that the IT is dead because the person who came up with it said that people should stop believing it.

Did I miss something here? Did Byne say that the IT is false? I don't seem to recall that...

Sounds like false gossip. Byne wouldn't do that.

I think they're confusing Byne with Tilax rules all...

Plus, I never claim to be the person who came up with it, I just started the thread that gave birth to it.

Any single person claiming to have come up with it is obviously full of ****. It's a group effort, not the brainchild of any one person.

Yup, that's why I think that argument's totally retarded...

No one here could have accomplished what we have done here alone!

[BatmanTurian]

byne wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

estebanus wrote...

There are a lot of peopleout there who are saying that the IT is dead because the person who came up with it said that people should stop believing it.

Did I miss something here? Did Byne say that the IT is false? I don't seem to recall that...

Sounds like false gossip. Byne wouldn't do that.

I think they're confusing Byne with Tilax rules all...

Yeah, I don't know who that is. It could be a trolling, 4chan-like attempt to demolish support for I.T., you know, just to be a**holes.

I vaguely remember seeing some thread where that Tilax dude came out and said the announcement of the Extended Cut somehow demolished any belief he had in IT, and everyone in the thread was acting like he was the dude who came up with the theory, despite me spending all my time in the IT thread and never having heard of him before.

It was weird.

okay, yeah that's wierd. Well we consider you our nominal leader anyway.

[byne]

balance5050 wrote...


What? what document?

This one.

'Tis linked in the OP of this thread

[estebanus]

Spread the word out! The anti-ITers are telling lies about us!

Modifié par estebanus, 24 mai 2012 - 07:40 .

[D.Sharrah]

Assuming IT is true (I and many here obviously do believe so)...what do you want to "see" in the EC?

For me...

1. I don't want them to come right out and say, "Hey, you are indoctrinated" - I still want them to let the player figure it out.

2. War Assets in Action
a. United allies actually having an impact on the battle cutscenes instead of just seeing Alliance soldiers
b. Impact of "upgrading" specific Assets - like the Citadel Defense (aid in taking the Citadel/real Crucible once indoctraintion is broken)

3. Confrontation w/Harbinger - even if it is just verbal

There's more but at least that's what at the top of my head and should help to get the ball rolling...

[balance5050]

byne wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

estebanus wrote...

There are a lot of peopleout there who are saying that the IT is dead because the person who came up with it said that people should stop believing it.

Did I miss something here? Did Byne say that the IT is false? I don't seem to recall that...

Sounds like false gossip. Byne wouldn't do that.

I think they're confusing Byne with Tilax rules all...

Plus, I never claim to be the person who came up with it, I just started the thread that gave birth to it.

Any single person claiming to have come up with it is obviously full of ****. It's a group effort, not the brainchild of any one person.

Well, it originated from a googledocs document. Might've been BW themselves ...:bandit:

Fairly sure the theory started before that googledocs document.

And if not, I know for sure I started the first thread before I'd ever seen that document.

Yeah, this thread was the first I saw of IT except for my own suspisions going through the game. I first got on here the friday after the game was released and the thread was already going at FTL speeds. 

[balance5050]

byne wrote...

balance5050 wrote...


What? what document?

This one.

'Tis linked in the OP of this thread

Yeah, that was written days after you started this thread I believe.

[llbountyhunter]

estebanus wrote...

Spread the word out! The anti-ITers are telling lies about us!

well, its not like this is new or anything....

[EpyonX3]

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

 http://www.youtube.c...mjmQ7dvo#t=238s

heres a video on the gun switch in slo motion.

THIS THIS THIS, totally intentional. The shockwave from the tube explosion seemed to change it.

You guys need to watch this, looking at you Epyon.

*TIM Voice* Damnit Balance! This is what I've been saying was happening on my playthrough. The image you posted had the gun changed to a predator before the explosion.

No those pics are from the video I think.

Well if they are then I'm confused and mistaken. Still I acknowledge the gun switch. Just not the IT implications.

[paxxton]

estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

estebanus wrote...

There are a lot of peopleout there who are saying that the IT is dead because the person who came up with it said that people should stop believing it.

Did I miss something here? Did Byne say that the IT is false? I don't seem to recall that...

Sounds like false gossip. Byne wouldn't do that.

I think they're confusing Byne with Tilax rules all...

Plus, I never claim to be the person who came up with it, I just started the thread that gave birth to it.

Any single person claiming to have come up with it is obviously full of ****. It's a group effort, not the brainchild of any one person.

Yup, that's why I think that argument's totally retarded...

No one here could have accomplished what we have done here alone!

There are many people here who have found some amazing evidence for IT. I wonder if BioWare ever confirms it and, if that was their original vision, tells us how they came up with it.

Modifié par paxxton, 24 mai 2012 - 07:43 .

[BatmanTurian]

byne wrote...

balance5050 wrote...


What? what document?

This one.

'Tis linked in the OP of this thread

letjemari@gmail.com is the author. I wonder if we should find out who this person is.

[balance5050]

estebanus wrote...

Spread the word out! The anti-ITers are telling lies about us!

This is seriously nothing new though. 

Edit:'d

Modifié par balance5050, 24 mai 2012 - 07:44 .

[estebanus]

llbountyhunter wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Spread the word out! The anti-ITers are telling lies about us!

well, its not like this is new or anything....

Quite true, unfortunately...

[Thorn Harvestar]

dreamgazer wrote...

Thorn Harvestar wrote...

Eric is a Gameplay Designer and Corey is a Lead Combat Designer.

I have a feeling this tweet from Mike is related to Multiplayer, as that is what Eric works on from what I can tell.

EDIT: those links don't work because Twitter.com is acting up right now

I know a lot of people are at BioWare's throats right now, but explain to me this: Why would any form of multi-player gameplay be something Gamble considers "the best we've ever put out"?

Maybe it's the best MP content they've made?

IDK, the new Ex-Cerberus Vanguard with BIOTIC WHIPS looks like it could be a lot of fun personally.

I'm just saying, there isn't enough detail in his tweet to say for certain what he is talking about. I'm excited to hear it, regardless of whether it is EC or MP related.

[byne]

balance5050 wrote...

byne wrote...

balance5050 wrote...


What? what document?

This one.

'Tis linked in the OP of this thread

Yeah, that was written days after you started this thread I believe.

There needs to be a way to see the actual dates of posts in the BSN forum. (Or I need to be observant enough to find out how to do it if there is one.)

I've seen people say that the IT thread was started only because of ACAYVOS' video before, which is odd since his original video was made March 15, and I know I started the thread on March 9, but when you show people the thread and all it says is 'Created about 3 months ago' you can't really dissuade them from saying we just stole our ideas from ACAYVOS.

[dreamgazer]

BatmanTurian wrote...

byne wrote...

balance5050 wrote...


What? what document?

This one.

'Tis linked in the OP of this thread

letjemari@gmail.com is the author. I wonder if we should find out who this person is.

Okay, seriously, you need to get out of my head or I'm going to have to file a mental restraining order.  

I had just finished Googling that email address when I read your post.  

[MaximizedAction]

balance5050 wrote...

byne wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

estebanus wrote...

There are a lot of peopleout there who are saying that the IT is dead because the person who came up with it said that people should stop believing it.

Did I miss something here? Did Byne say that the IT is false? I don't seem to recall that...

Sounds like false gossip. Byne wouldn't do that.

I think they're confusing Byne with Tilax rules all...

Plus, I never claim to be the person who came up with it, I just started the thread that gave birth to it.

Any single person claiming to have come up with it is obviously full of ****. It's a group effort, not the brainchild of any one person.

Well, it originated from a googledocs document. Might've been BW themselves ...:bandit:

Fairly sure the theory started before that googledocs document.

And if not, I know for sure I started the first thread before I'd ever seen that document.

Yeah, this thread was the first I saw of IT except for my own suspisions going through the game. I first got on here the friday after the game was released and the thread was already going at FTL speeds. 

See, it took me 2 weeks to finish the game, I'm not the kind of fast player to finish the game within 3 days
So, ok, I found out about the document from the Acavyos video.

So if byne came before all of that, then we don't know who was the first.

IT being a collaborative interpretation is even better.

[estebanus]

Also, I've been talking with a few other ITers who have used evidence we've debunked a long time ago (for example not being able to shoot the keeper or "an end once and for all" meaning anything, not to mention the pile of corpses not laying in front of the beam before harby lasers you) to make the theory sound silly and far-fetched.

I wonder who is the scared one now!

[D.Sharrah]

What I don't get it...is that in game where deception plays such an important role (heck, they even named one of the out of game universe stories it), is that people seem to have a problem with the developer using it against the gamer as well. I mean just looking at some of the choices that I making as Renegade this time around - and I amazed at how easily and well my Shepard is lying/manipulating. Two great examples of this are on Tuchanka (where I fully plan on releasing a fake cure and hope that I have enough rep that I won't have to shoot Mordrin in the back)...both times Eve ask you if there is something wrong...I know that Shepard is lying, and the lines are delivered so well that it is so easy to believe that the lies are the true reasons...Then when first meeting with all the clans, yelling at them "Do you want this cure?" (again knowing full well I plan on letting it be sabotaged) - feels so convincing...overall just reminding how well done Tuchanka is...and then I think of the ending and I do not understand why some think that it is impossible to believe the ReaperBieber the Starbinger couldn't possibly be as good of a liar as Shepard? I just don't get it.

[llbountyhunter]

MaximizedAction wrote...

balance5050 wrote...




Yeah, this thread was the first I saw of IT except for my own suspisions going through the game. I first got on here the friday after the game was released and the thread was already going at FTL speeds. 

See, it took me 2 weeks to finish the game, I'm not the kind of fast player to finish the game within 3 days
So, ok, I found out about the document from the Acavyos video.

So if byne came before all of that, then we don't know who was the first.

IT being a collaborative interpretation is even better.

when many different people working independantly from each other come to the very same conclusion......

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 24 mai 2012 - 07:51 .