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[Dwailing]

llbountyhunter wrote...

blooregard wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...



a PC isnt THAT expensive.... almost everone has a regular pc, thats like 300.... a console is another 300....

you could get a decent gaming PC for $600-700.... and PC games tend to be $10 cheaper- and you get realy sweet offers on steam. (complete assassins creed series for $50)

600-700 bucks can buy me an xbox, one year XBL subscription, the entire Assassin's Creed series, the entire Mass effect series and I'll still probably have money to spare.

but then you wont get a regular PC which almost everyone need these days. Im just pointing out that the difference isnt that high if you take into acoount that most people have a regular computer anyways.

just get a high-end computer instead of that regular computer and you have no nead for a console.

Pretty much the only reason I own a Xbox 360 and pay for Gold is because of Halo and Gears of War.  Ditto for the PS3 in terms of exclusives.  Everything else, I prefer on the PC.

[D.Sharrah]

llbountyhunter wrote...

blooregard wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

byne wrote...

blooregard wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

the argument I get tired of hearing the most is...

"...but of IT is true then that means bioware sold us a incomplete game!!!!"

This should only be a valid argument if they were charging for the EC...they're not. Yes they sold us an incomplete game but they aren't exactly capatalizing on it

Well, the main complaint about that I've seen is that some console players dont have the internet connection for xbox live, but cmon guys, if you cant get internet where you live, I'd suggest moving.

Its 2012. Even Mt Everest has full 3G coverage, I'm sure somewhere close to you has broadband.

In this modern age, a gamer with no internet connection knows what theyre missing out on.

You know Diablo 3 is the fastest selling PC game. Yeah, you need a constant net connection to play that

Diablo III is a PC game...I'm too poor to afford a good computer nor do I want to shell out the several hundred dollars needed to upgrade it every few years. Console gaming is nice and cheap for me.

a PC isnt THAT expensive.... almost everone has a regular pc, thats like 300.... a console is another 300....

you could get a decent gaming PC for $600-700.... and PC games tend to be $10 cheaper- and you get realy sweet offers on steam. (complete assassins creed series for $50)

I don't think the arguement has anything to do with the upfront cost...as a gamer I am willing to pay - but for me its more about the lifecycle of the product.  A console (and a 360 is the only console I have/play on) has a much longer lifecycle...in fact I know that I have missed out on what I understand are some great games, because I don't want to invest in a computer that I have to updgrade every time a new game comes out.  Now maybe this perception is wrong, but I think that is the crux of the arguement.

[EpyonX3]

BatmanTurian wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

the argument I get tired of hearing the most is...

"...but of IT is true then that means bioware sold us a incomplete game!!!!"

To which I reply, MMO's and any games that you have to buy DLC for are already incomplete games so we've been sold incomplete games for at least a decade or more now.

I think the incomplete game thing is in relation to the ending. Each ME game before three had an ending and DLC was either before the events of the end of the game or bridges to the next game. But each story concluded. If ME3 is the final game of the series or at least the last of Shepard's story and the game didn't "end" because of IT then the story is incomplete.

Which people see as the game being incomplete.

And before people come after me, I don't side with this unless Bioware releases a Pro-IT EC and admit that it was planned and still manage to leave a lot of questions.

Blizzard never told you until later that they were going to do explansions to World of Warcraft that you would have to plunk down another 60 dollars for. So World of Warcraft was technically incomplete. They're not selling you a new game, just expansions which are glorified, extensive DLC.

An expansion is different. Expansion qualify as an entirely different game sometimes. Look at Age of Mythology, A game I played religiously and ran a clan of 20-30 people. They came out with an expansion called the Titans, which instead of adding additional chapters to the existing story, branched off into a new story about the Atlantians. It also introduced new unit types and game mechanics.

What we see with ME is an expansion not of the game but of the ending. It will not introduce new mechanics, new campaigns or even new chapters.

Some good points. Maybe we should just say this entire situation is a new precedent. We as gamers want companies to be creative and when they finally do, we don't like it. We seem to be a fickle bunch.

That I agree with. That's why I like IT and it would be cool if true, but the have to do it right.

[blooregard]

Dwailing wrote...

blooregard wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

blooregard wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

byne wrote...

blooregard wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

the argument I get tired of hearing the most is...

"...but of IT is true then that means bioware sold us a incomplete game!!!!"

This should only be a valid argument if they were charging for the EC...they're not. Yes they sold us an incomplete game but they aren't exactly capatalizing on it

Well, the main complaint about that I've seen is that some console players dont have the internet connection for xbox live, but cmon guys, if you cant get internet where you live, I'd suggest moving.

Its 2012. Even Mt Everest has full 3G coverage, I'm sure somewhere close to you has broadband.

In this modern age, a gamer with no internet connection knows what theyre missing out on.

You know Diablo 3 is the fastest selling PC game. Yeah, you need a constant net connection to play that

Diablo III is a PC game...I'm too poor to afford a good computer nor do I want to shell out the several hundred dollars needed to upgrade it every few years. Console gaming is nice and cheap for me.

a PC isnt THAT expensive.... almost everone has a regular pc, thats like 300.... a console is another 300....

you could get a decent gaming PC for $600-700.... and PC games tend to be $10 cheaper- and you get realy sweet offers on steam. (complete assassins creed series for $50)

600-700 bucks can buy me an xbox, one year XBL subscription, the entire Assassin's Creed series, the entire Mass effect series and I'll still probably have money to spare.

Yes, but on the PC you get: superior graphics, superior controls (especially for shooters), a versatile system that can do pretty much anything, and Steam, which allows you to save enough money to compensate for the investment.

Edit: Oh yeah, I also forgot that for almost all games you don't have to worry about having a subscription service to play multiplayer.

I grew up on consoles I'm not going to change to PCs now.

Plus the "superior controls" I feel screw consoles over most in some cases as I swear DICE takes all their "this gun is OP" complaints from PC gamers then my beloved LMGs get nerfed to hell and back.

Also 600-700 can buy me one xbox and one netbook. Enough for my gaming and internet needs.

[Dwailing]

D.Sharrah wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

blooregard wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

byne wrote...

blooregard wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

the argument I get tired of hearing the most is...

"...but of IT is true then that means bioware sold us a incomplete game!!!!"

This should only be a valid argument if they were charging for the EC...they're not. Yes they sold us an incomplete game but they aren't exactly capatalizing on it

Well, the main complaint about that I've seen is that some console players dont have the internet connection for xbox live, but cmon guys, if you cant get internet where you live, I'd suggest moving.

Its 2012. Even Mt Everest has full 3G coverage, I'm sure somewhere close to you has broadband.

In this modern age, a gamer with no internet connection knows what theyre missing out on.

You know Diablo 3 is the fastest selling PC game. Yeah, you need a constant net connection to play that

Diablo III is a PC game...I'm too poor to afford a good computer nor do I want to shell out the several hundred dollars needed to upgrade it every few years. Console gaming is nice and cheap for me.

a PC isnt THAT expensive.... almost everone has a regular pc, thats like 300.... a console is another 300....

you could get a decent gaming PC for $600-700.... and PC games tend to be $10 cheaper- and you get realy sweet offers on steam. (complete assassins creed series for $50)

I don't think the arguement has anything to do with the upfront cost...as a gamer I am willing to pay - but for me its more about the lifecycle of the product.  A console (and a 360 is the only console I have/play on) has a much longer lifecycle...in fact I know that I have missed out on what I understand are some great games, because I don't want to invest in a computer that I have to updgrade every time a new game comes out.  Now maybe this perception is wrong, but I think that is the crux of the arguement.

If you make a serious investment, you don't have to worry about upgrading for a good one or two years.  Also, I should point out that, as long as the current gen of consoles is still popular, PC gaming is going to be held back by devs that don't specifically develope for the PC.

[byne]

Dwailing wrote...


Yes, but on the PC you get: superior graphics, superior controls (especially for shooters), a versatile system that can do pretty much anything, and Steam, which allows you to save enough money to compensate for the investment.

Edit: Oh yeah, I also forgot that for almost all games you don't have to worry about having a subscription service to play multiplayer.

But on console I get to sit in my comfy chair and play on my 52" TV with surround sound. I have to sit in my far less comfy computer chair at my desk to play computer games.

As for the xbox live subscription, I dont really have much to complain about there. The money keeps the system working.

'Tis why PSN is free and has had multiple week long outages.

Also, Dwailing, you're one of the people here that likes RvB, right?

If you are, look at what I found!

[warlock22]

llbountyhunter wrote...

blooregard wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

the argument I get tired of hearing the most is...

"...but of IT is true then that means bioware sold us a incomplete game!!!!"

This should only be a valid argument if they were charging for the EC...they're not. Yes they sold us an incomplete game but they aren't exactly capatalizing on it

even IF they were charging for EC it still wouldnt be a valid argument.  

selling games without their endings is know the industry standard. (thanks balanc for the links)

Want The Real Ending To Asura's Wrath? Cough Up $6.99
Prince of Persia: Epilogue DLC Impressions - GameSpot.com
Final Fantasy 13-2 "to be continued" ending explained • News • Eurogamer.net

I agree, but my thing is that if they charged us money for this, then that means that they put more time a effort into it. They feel that it is good enough to charge money for it. The fact that the EC is free tells me that they will put as little time and work into it as possible because they arn't making a profit of it.

I would be particulary happy about it costing money but atleast i would know that a lot of work was put into it.

[llbountyhunter]

D.Sharrah wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

blooregard wrote...



Diablo III is a PC game...I'm too poor to afford a good computer nor do I want to shell out the several hundred dollars needed to upgrade it every few years. Console gaming is nice and cheap for me.

a PC isnt THAT expensive.... almost everone has a regular pc, thats like 300.... a console is another 300....

you could get a decent gaming PC for $600-700.... and PC games tend to be $10 cheaper- and you get realy sweet offers on steam. (complete assassins creed series for $50)

I don't think the arguement has anything to do with the upfront cost...as a gamer I am willing to pay - but for me its more about the lifecycle of the product.  A console (and a 360 is the only console I have/play on) has a much longer lifecycle...in fact I know that I have missed out on what I understand are some great games, because I don't want to invest in a computer that I have to updgrade every time a new game comes out.  Now maybe this perception is wrong, but I think that is the crux of the arguement.

you only REALLY have to upgrade every 2-3 years if you want to play everything on high/ very high..... you can go longer if your willing to play on low-med. 4-5.

plus the money you save on games will be more than enough to pay for the new graphic card.

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 24 mai 2012 - 08:43 .

[paxxton]

Dwailing wrote...

blooregard wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

blooregard wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

byne wrote...

blooregard wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

the argument I get tired of hearing the most is...

"...but of IT is true then that means bioware sold us a incomplete game!!!!"

This should only be a valid argument if they were charging for the EC...they're not. Yes they sold us an incomplete game but they aren't exactly capatalizing on it

Well, the main complaint about that I've seen is that some console players dont have the internet connection for xbox live, but cmon guys, if you cant get internet where you live, I'd suggest moving.

Its 2012. Even Mt Everest has full 3G coverage, I'm sure somewhere close to you has broadband.

In this modern age, a gamer with no internet connection knows what theyre missing out on.

You know Diablo 3 is the fastest selling PC game. Yeah, you need a constant net connection to play that

Diablo III is a PC game...I'm too poor to afford a good computer nor do I want to shell out the several hundred dollars needed to upgrade it every few years. Console gaming is nice and cheap for me.

a PC isnt THAT expensive.... almost everone has a regular pc, thats like 300.... a console is another 300....

you could get a decent gaming PC for $600-700.... and PC games tend to be $10 cheaper- and you get realy sweet offers on steam. (complete assassins creed series for $50)

600-700 bucks can buy me an xbox, one year XBL subscription, the entire Assassin's Creed series, the entire Mass effect series and I'll still probably have money to spare.

Yes, but on the PC you get: superior graphics, superior controls (especially for shooters), a versatile system that can do pretty much anything, and Steam, which allows you to save enough money to compensate for the investment.

Edit: Oh yeah, I also forgot that for almost all games you don't have to worry about having a subscription service to play multiplayer.

I disagree with those who claim that BioWare sold us an incomplete game. The ending as it is now is vague but it's still an ending of sorts. It just takes more imagination than usually to appreciate it. You're given a Swiss cheese and have to fill all the holes in your mind. But still the cheese is fresh and tasty.

Modifié par paxxton, 24 mai 2012 - 08:44 .

[Munsterlander]

D.Sharrah wrote...

Assuming IT is true (I and many here obviously do believe so)...what do you want to "see" in the EC?

For me...

1. I don't want them to come right out and say, "Hey, you are indoctrinated" - I still want them to let the player figure it out.

Sorry, I read that and this image popped into my head.

Modifié par Munsterlander, 24 mai 2012 - 08:44 .

[Tirian Thorn]

byne wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...


Ummm.... I'm not going to go nuts here...  But I live about 2 miles away from broadband access.  My internet use is at work and then at home I can tether my droid to my computer (but the speeds aren't great.)   It's actually good enough for Guild Wars and I can play ME3 MP on weeknights.  (Not weekends.) 

File sizes a GB or more take a while to DL though. 

There are no plans for broadband or DSL to expand to where I live. 

And sure, I could move, but I also love my house and it's a great place for me to raise my kids.  We have a big back yard - with trampoline, plus a full finished basement that is full of their toys. 

So I'm ok as far as internet goes - but not everyone is.  And it's pretty sad actually.  As you say, it's 2012, why doesn't everyone have high speed internet access. 

In rural areas there is satelite internet (HughnesNet for example)  Their service sucks because they know they've got you by the balls.  It's $70 a month and isn't even as fast as 3G.  Plus they limit how much information you can transmitt & DL in a rolling 30 day period.  Last I knew it was 16GB in any 30 day period.  BS!!! 

*EDIT*  Actually, here in the US, because of lobbying and all that BS - municiaplities are actually not allowed to establish their own highspeed internet services - even if the big companies do not want to service a particular area. 

There are some exceptions I believe, but generally that is the case.  (When I lived in Wyoming the county did have their own phone & internet company)  (I live near Buffalo, NY now.)  

Well, yeah, but honestly it's not BioWare's fault the state of internet access sucks so hard in America. They shouldnt really have to appease everyone who doesnt have broadband.

Hell, years ago I lived in Turkey, and all we had on the Air Force base was crappy dial-up, but I never blamed video game developers for releasing DLC that took me forever to download. They cant be expected to not release DLC just because I cant download it in Turkey.

I'm not mad at Bioware.  I'm mad at the US and how business is done.  In this day and age, we should all have access to high speed internet.  And the cable company said they would run the cable to my house for $2,500.00.  Isn't that nice of them!? 

I just dislike the widespread belief that everyone has access to reliable broadband internet. 

My phone is pretty fast though, so i can still do a lot more than on dial-up... 

[estebanus]

Dear god, this jules_vern18 guy is really pissing me off. The man's a total hypocrite.

If anyone wants to see, then visit this thread: http://social.biowar...5635/4#12222558

[blooregard]

byne wrote...

Dwailing wrote...


Yes, but on the PC you get: superior graphics, superior controls (especially for shooters), a versatile system that can do pretty much anything, and Steam, which allows you to save enough money to compensate for the investment.

Edit: Oh yeah, I also forgot that for almost all games you don't have to worry about having a subscription service to play multiplayer.

But on console I get to sit in my comfy chair and play on my 52" TV with surround sound. I have to sit in my far less comfy computer chair at my desk to play computer games.

As for the xbox live subscription, I dont really have much to complain about there. The money keeps the system working.

'Tis why PSN is free and has had multiple week long outages.

Also, Dwailing, you're one of the people here that likes RvB, right?

If you are, look at what I found!

Not that I don't think the new RvBs are awesome but what ever happened to the good old days? Where they put a guy on a tank barrel and lifted him up and that acted as their rising camera.

[llbountyhunter]

byne wrote...

Dwailing wrote...


Yes, but on the PC you get: superior graphics, superior controls (especially for shooters), a versatile system that can do pretty much anything, and Steam, which allows you to save enough money to compensate for the investment.

Edit: Oh yeah, I also forgot that for almost all games you don't have to worry about having a subscription service to play multiplayer.

But on console I get to sit in my comfy chair and play on my 52" TV with surround sound. I have to sit in my far less comfy computer chair at my desk to play computer games.

As for the xbox live subscription, I dont really have much to complain about there. The money keeps the system working.

'Tis why PSN is free and has had multiple week long outages.

Also, Dwailing, you're one of the people here that likes RvB, right?

If you are, look at what I found!

you can do that with a pc.......

[D.Sharrah]

Dwailing wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

blooregard wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

byne wrote...

blooregard wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

the argument I get tired of hearing the most is...

"...but of IT is true then that means bioware sold us a incomplete game!!!!"

This should only be a valid argument if they were charging for the EC...they're not. Yes they sold us an incomplete game but they aren't exactly capatalizing on it

Well, the main complaint about that I've seen is that some console players dont have the internet connection for xbox live, but cmon guys, if you cant get internet where you live, I'd suggest moving.

Its 2012. Even Mt Everest has full 3G coverage, I'm sure somewhere close to you has broadband.

In this modern age, a gamer with no internet connection knows what theyre missing out on.

You know Diablo 3 is the fastest selling PC game. Yeah, you need a constant net connection to play that

Diablo III is a PC game...I'm too poor to afford a good computer nor do I want to shell out the several hundred dollars needed to upgrade it every few years. Console gaming is nice and cheap for me.

a PC isnt THAT expensive.... almost everone has a regular pc, thats like 300.... a console is another 300....

you could get a decent gaming PC for $600-700.... and PC games tend to be $10 cheaper- and you get realy sweet offers on steam. (complete assassins creed series for $50)

I don't think the arguement has anything to do with the upfront cost...as a gamer I am willing to pay - but for me its more about the lifecycle of the product.  A console (and a 360 is the only console I have/play on) has a much longer lifecycle...in fact I know that I have missed out on what I understand are some great games, because I don't want to invest in a computer that I have to updgrade every time a new game comes out.  Now maybe this perception is wrong, but I think that is the crux of the arguement.

If you make a serious investment, you don't have to worry about upgrading for a good one or two years.  Also, I should point out that, as long as the current gen of consoles is still popular, PC gaming is going to be held back by devs that don't specifically develope for the PC.

This is exactly my point though...if you have a good console (360 or PS3), when was the last time you really had to upgrade?  The consoles lifecycle is simply longer and it is planned that way.  And if you want to talk about graphics improvements look at the improvements that they have made on ME (all using the exact same hardware).  I don't think developers are being held back at all - if anything the consoles have gotten better with age, just like a fine wine.

[Dwailing]

byne wrote...

Dwailing wrote...


Yes, but on the PC you get: superior graphics, superior controls (especially for shooters), a versatile system that can do pretty much anything, and Steam, which allows you to save enough money to compensate for the investment.

Edit: Oh yeah, I also forgot that for almost all games you don't have to worry about having a subscription service to play multiplayer.

But on console I get to sit in my comfy chair and play on my 52" TV with surround sound. I have to sit in my far less comfy computer chair at my desk to play computer games.

As for the xbox live subscription, I dont really have much to complain about there. The money keeps the system working.

'Tis why PSN is free and has had multiple week long outages.

Also, Dwailing, you're one of the people here that likes RvB, right?

If you are, look at what I found!

Frakking.  Epic.  I love the, "Ever, of all time," near the end.  I LOLd when I saw that.

[D.Sharrah]

Munsterlander wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Assuming IT is true (I and many here obviously do believe so)...what do you want to "see" in the EC?

For me...

1. I don't want them to come right out and say, "Hey, you are indoctrinated" - I still want them to let the player figure it out.

Sorry, I read that and this image popped into my head.

Too damn funny...

[MegumiAzusa]

D.Sharrah wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

blooregard wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

byne wrote...

blooregard wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

the argument I get tired of hearing the most is...

"...but of IT is true then that means bioware sold us a incomplete game!!!!"

This should only be a valid argument if they were charging for the EC...they're not. Yes they sold us an incomplete game but they aren't exactly capatalizing on it

Well, the main complaint about that I've seen is that some console players dont have the internet connection for xbox live, but cmon guys, if you cant get internet where you live, I'd suggest moving.

Its 2012. Even Mt Everest has full 3G coverage, I'm sure somewhere close to you has broadband.

In this modern age, a gamer with no internet connection knows what theyre missing out on.

You know Diablo 3 is the fastest selling PC game. Yeah, you need a constant net connection to play that

Diablo III is a PC game...I'm too poor to afford a good computer nor do I want to shell out the several hundred dollars needed to upgrade it every few years. Console gaming is nice and cheap for me.

a PC isnt THAT expensive.... almost everone has a regular pc, thats like 300.... a console is another 300....

you could get a decent gaming PC for $600-700.... and PC games tend to be $10 cheaper- and you get realy sweet offers on steam. (complete assassins creed series for $50)

I don't think the arguement has anything to do with the upfront cost...as a gamer I am willing to pay - but for me its more about the lifecycle of the product.  A console (and a 360 is the only console I have/play on) has a much longer lifecycle...in fact I know that I have missed out on what I understand are some great games, because I don't want to invest in a computer that I have to updgrade every time a new game comes out.  Now maybe this perception is wrong, but I think that is the crux of the arguement.

Yes it's wrong. If you turn down the graphics to about the level of console games it's no real difference.
Also you have better equipment, mouse+keyboard is just better for some genres and gamepads for others. Seriously when I first heard about it thought people were trolling when complaining about Dr. Eva, the three Husketeers, and Marauder Shields being hard. Racing games or stuff like Dungeon Defenders are better with a GamePad imo, but that's why I got an XBox 360 controller for my PC, works just as well.

And the arguments PCs creating problems... seriously with newer Windows versions like Windows 7 there are about 0 problems at all. And I can just plug everything in via USB and it downloads the driver without me having to do something. If it has a specific driver it comes with a CD and I have to click on 'Next' for about 3-5 times and I'm also done.

[byne]

blooregard wrote...

byne wrote...

Dwailing wrote...


Yes, but on the PC you get: superior graphics, superior controls (especially for shooters), a versatile system that can do pretty much anything, and Steam, which allows you to save enough money to compensate for the investment.

Edit: Oh yeah, I also forgot that for almost all games you don't have to worry about having a subscription service to play multiplayer.

But on console I get to sit in my comfy chair and play on my 52" TV with surround sound. I have to sit in my far less comfy computer chair at my desk to play computer games.

As for the xbox live subscription, I dont really have much to complain about there. The money keeps the system working.

'Tis why PSN is free and has had multiple week long outages.

Also, Dwailing, you're one of the people here that likes RvB, right?

If you are, look at what I found!

Not that I don't think the new RvBs are awesome but what ever happened to the good old days? Where they put a guy on a tank barrel and lifted him up and that acted as their rising camera.

Well, theater mode in Halo 3 and Reach allows them to get way better camera shots.

While I loved the charm that standing on the barrel of a tank to get a rising shot had, I'm not gonna lie and say I preferred it to using theater mode

[llbountyhunter]

llbountyhunter wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

blooregard wrote...



Diablo III is a PC game...I'm too poor to afford a good computer nor do I want to shell out the several hundred dollars needed to upgrade it every few years. Console gaming is nice and cheap for me.

a PC isnt THAT expensive.... almost everone has a regular pc, thats like 300.... a console is another 300....

you could get a decent gaming PC for $600-700.... and PC games tend to be $10 cheaper- and you get realy sweet offers on steam. (complete assassins creed series for $50)

I don't think the arguement has anything to do with the upfront cost...as a gamer I am willing to pay - but for me its more about the lifecycle of the product.  A console (and a 360 is the only console I have/play on) has a much longer lifecycle...in fact I know that I have missed out on what I understand are some great games, because I don't want to invest in a computer that I have to updgrade every time a new game comes out.  Now maybe this perception is wrong, but I think that is the crux of the arguement.

you only REALLY have to upgrade every 2-3 years if you want to play everything on high/ very high..... you can go longer if your willing to play on low-med. 5-6. (console quality)

plus the money you save on games will be more than enough to pay for the new graphic card.

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 24 mai 2012 - 08:49 .

[balance5050]

EpyonX3 wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

blooregard wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

the argument I get tired of hearing the most is...

"...but of IT is true then that means bioware sold us a incomplete game!!!!"

This should only be a valid argument if they were charging for the EC...they're not. Yes they sold us an incomplete game but they aren't exactly capatalizing on it

even IF they were charging for EC it still wouldnt be a valid argument.  

selling games without their endings is know the industry standard. (thanks balanc for the links)

Want The Real Ending To Asura's Wrath? Cough Up $6.99
Prince of Persia: Epilogue DLC Impressions - GameSpot.com
Final Fantasy 13-2 "to be continued" ending explained • News • Eurogamer.net

The thing is that people know it's not in the game or that they need to wait for DLC for the rest.

Bioware has confirmed neither.

No, Asura's wrath was left vague and and never had a "to be continued", capcom didn't sa anything until like two weeks later.

None of these games were advertised to not have an ending or a proper epilogue.

[byne]

So, while I'm probly far too late in saying this, we should probly stop before the thread becomes a Console vs PC warzone.

[Ytook]

Just thought I'd pop in and say that on Chris Priestly's poll on HTL IT is winning 77.4% to 22.6% if you havn't seen it recently.

(And on the off topic pc console thing, I think I'm the only person in the world who much prefers console controllers to mouse and keyboard, I play both pc and console games and I get the mouse and keyboard is more precise and versatile, but I find using them hugely immersion breaking, the controller feels natural to me)

Edit: 77.5% to 22.5% in the time I wrote this.

Modifié par Ytook, 24 mai 2012 - 08:52 .

[MegumiAzusa]

byne wrote...

Dwailing wrote...


Yes, but on the PC you get: superior graphics, superior controls (especially for shooters), a versatile system that can do pretty much anything, and Steam, which allows you to save enough money to compensate for the investment.

Edit: Oh yeah, I also forgot that for almost all games you don't have to worry about having a subscription service to play multiplayer.

But on console I get to sit in my comfy chair and play on my 52" TV with surround sound. I have to sit in my far less comfy computer chair at my desk to play computer games.

As for the xbox live subscription, I dont really have much to complain about there. The money keeps the system working.

'Tis why PSN is free and has had multiple week long outages.

Also, Dwailing, you're one of the people here that likes RvB, right?

If you are, look at what I found!

This is also a misconception. Nothing, really nothing is stopping you from either getting a keyboard+mouse that are wireless/long enough wires, or a gamepad (if the game supports it, which more and more games do again)

[D.Sharrah]

All of my console loving aside...if money was no object, I would love to have a gaming pc. In fact one of the things that I loved about playing Kotor and TSL on the PC, were all of the incedible mods made by the community. I miss that. But when you have kids...all the spare money goes to diapers and formula and toys they never play with...