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paxxton wrote...
The evidence is in-game so you have to assume that BioWare planned it. Unless the evidence is misinterpreted.Corik wrote...
byne wrote...
Wait wait wait! You guys, the **** does any of this have to do with IT?
We should probly get back on topic sometime.
Do people really think/hope IT could be what Bioware was planing since launch? I mean, It's awesome... but should we have hope for it?
I'm quite hopeless right now... and depressed.
BatmanTurian wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
byne wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
byne wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
Wait I don't think that was a Kinetic Barrier since Shepard walked right threw it. Wasn't that a Mass Effect Field?
What do you think kinetic barriers are?
Pardon my confusion. yes you're right they are mass effect fields.
I found this though:
"The shielding afforded by kinetic barriers does not protect against extremes of temperature, toxins, or radiation.
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Radiation poisining is one thing not considered when Shepard falls from space. We know he suit can't protect against radiation either. The Fuel Reactors mission is evidence of that. How did Cerberus cure him of radiation while rebuilding his body?
Does reentry cause radiation? Like I said, I dont exactly know much about the dynamics of reentry.
vaccum is full of radiation from stars and the cosmic background, hitting you everywhere. Only the electro-magnetic shield created by the movement of liquid metal in the Earth's core shields the Earth from deadly radiation, such as what exists on Mars. Mars has no electromagnetic radiation.
Sh*t, this means they wouldn't have been protected on Mars. Maybe the suits are lined with lead. I don't know.
Then that reactor mission would be a contradiction.
ME writers got some radiation 'splainin ta' do.
Unschuld wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
Also known as Challenger Deep at the deepest point.
No, this one.
BatmanTurian wrote...
Unschuld wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
MissOuJ wrote...
excelon wrote...
I didn't intend for you guys to analyze my statement to closely I mean from a Physics standpoint Shepard should have disintegrated, but it's a video game. They're allowed to bend the truth to a certain extent.
Bending the truth to a certain extent is one thing - claiming the Destroy --> get the Breathe ending is supposed to be taken as valid because Shepard survived (or, as it is, didn't) reentry once, because he learned so much the first time he can survive it again with messed up armor and without. a. helmet. is a bit more than a strech - it's not even a plot hole, that's a full-blown ravine.
more like the Mariana Trench
Valles Marineris, if you want to stay with the space theme.
Also known as Challenger Deep at the deepest point.
Unschuld wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
ugh. You are stating Shepard never fell to the planet when everything indicates Shepard did. That statement is false.
I never made that statement. I said I don't think Shepard fell planetside, and there's no dialogue directly indicating so. This is all hinging around a few seconds of video that pan out away from the character who's emitting radiation/light which could also be attributed to the star on the horizon (Shepard goes dim once the star passes the horizon). I wouldn't say that's "everything" indicating re-entry, because there is literally nothing else besides a helmet (weak). A few minutes in vacuum followed by re-entry and landing on a planet with .83 earth atmos is not "prolonged exposure to vacuum" as described by the Lazerus project team.
Honestly, you're getting way too worked up over this, and your resort to accusations is disappointing. This was meant as fun conjecture.
I'm not the only one who's thought of this either.
http://www.bungie.ne...stRepeater1-p=2
A few posts down, someone (Reptilian Rob, I'm assuming the same from this forum) says that the insufficient mass would cause him to bounce back into orbit due to insufficient velocity. Not exactly proof, but I'm looking into it to see if he's right.
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balance5050 wrote...
I'm pretty sure it's explained that the suit can take radiation in limited quantities. Space suits are designed like that.
excelon wrote...
With alot of help from Wolfram Mathematica I've calculated that shepard will actually not burn up! The 0.83 Atmospheric pressures of Alchera is thin enough that the time he reaches the planets surface all that would effect him is the impact (This is assuming Shepards suit is made of a hardened material like steel which has a melting point of 2000 C). I determined impact velocity to be about 400 m/s using Newtonian Mechanics. This would be enough to Blow him apart on impact. This must have been real work for Bioware because all of the math is adding up!
Good work!excelon wrote...
With alot of help from Wolfram Mathematica I've calculated that shepard will actually not burn up! The 0.83 Atmospheric pressures of Alchera is thin enough that the time he reaches the planets surface all that would effect him is the impact (This is assuming Shepards suit is made of a hardened material like steel which has a melting point of 2000 C). I determined impact velocity to be about 400 m/s using Newtonian Mechanics. This would be enough to Blow him apart on impact. This must have been real work for Bioware because all of the math is adding up!
excelon wrote...
With alot of help from Wolfram Mathematica I've calculated that shepard will actually not burn up! The 0.83 Atmospheric pressures of Alchera is thin enough that the time he reaches the planets surface all that would effect him is the impact (This is assuming Shepards suit is made of a hardened material like steel which has a melting point of 2000 C). I determined impact velocity to be about 400 m/s using Newtonian Mechanics. This would be enough to Blow him apart on impact. This must have been real work for Bioware because all of the math is adding up!
They described the impact in ME2?BatmanTurian wrote...
excelon wrote...
With alot of help from Wolfram Mathematica I've calculated that shepard will actually not burn up! The 0.83 Atmospheric pressures of Alchera is thin enough that the time he reaches the planets surface all that would effect him is the impact (This is assuming Shepards suit is made of a hardened material like steel which has a melting point of 2000 C). I determined impact velocity to be about 400 m/s using Newtonian Mechanics. This would be enough to Blow him apart on impact. This must have been real work for Bioware because all of the math is adding up!
And that's what it says in the game. Shepard is blow into peices with his head still intact within the helmet (though, why did they leave it behind? whatever) I think like some limbs, the torso, and the head survived but not everything.
Miranda does in the vids left behind on the Cerberus base, I believe. I could be wrong, but that's what I remember.paxxton wrote...
They described the impact in ME2?BatmanTurian wrote...
excelon wrote...
With alot of help from Wolfram Mathematica I've calculated that shepard will actually not burn up! The 0.83 Atmospheric pressures of Alchera is thin enough that the time he reaches the planets surface all that would effect him is the impact (This is assuming Shepards suit is made of a hardened material like steel which has a melting point of 2000 C). I determined impact velocity to be about 400 m/s using Newtonian Mechanics. This would be enough to Blow him apart on impact. This must have been real work for Bioware because all of the math is adding up!
And that's what it says in the game. Shepard is blow into peices with his head still intact within the helmet (though, why did they leave it behind? whatever) I think like some limbs, the torso, and the head survived but not everything.
EpyonX3 wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
I'm pretty sure it's explained that the suit can take radiation in limited quantities. Space suits are designed like that.
It's possible. I'm looking for that description.
LOL. Merely improbable.BatmanTurian wrote...
paxxton wrote...
The evidence is in-game so you have to assume that BioWare planned it. Unless the evidence is misinterpreted.Corik wrote...
byne wrote...
Wait wait wait! You guys, the **** does any of this have to do with IT?
We should probly get back on topic sometime.
Do people really think/hope IT could be what Bioware was planing since launch? I mean, It's awesome... but should we have hope for it?
I'm quite hopeless right now... and depressed.
Or Bioware is trolling us.
excelon wrote...
With alot of help from Wolfram Mathematica I've calculated that shepard will actually not burn up! The 0.83 Atmospheric pressures of Alchera is thin enough that the time he reaches the planets surface all that would effect him is the impact (This is assuming Shepards suit is made of a hardened material like steel which has a melting point of 2000 C). I determined impact velocity to be about 400 m/s using Newtonian Mechanics. This would be enough to Blow him apart on impact. This must have been real work for Bioware because all of the math is adding up!
excelon wrote...
With alot of help from Wolfram Mathematica I've calculated that shepard will actually not burn up! The 0.83 Atmospheric pressures of Alchera is thin enough that the time he reaches the planets surface all that would effect him is the impact (This is assuming Shepards suit is made of a hardened material like steel which has a melting point of 2000 C). I determined impact velocity to be about 400 m/s using Newtonian Mechanics. This would be enough to Blow him apart on impact. This must have been real work for Bioware because all of the math is adding up!
MissOuJ wrote...
Wow, that's actually pretty awesome. Altho they only mentioned Shepard was brain dead and that there was a body to take back to. The way you describe it Shepard was little more than mince
MissOuJ wrote...
excelon wrote...
With alot of help from Wolfram Mathematica I've calculated that shepard will actually not burn up! The 0.83 Atmospheric pressures of Alchera is thin enough that the time he reaches the planets surface all that would effect him is the impact (This is assuming Shepards suit is made of a hardened material like steel which has a melting point of 2000 C). I determined impact velocity to be about 400 m/s using Newtonian Mechanics. This would be enough to Blow him apart on impact. This must have been real work for Bioware because all of the math is adding up!
Wow, that's actually pretty awesome. Altho they only mentioned Shepard was brain dead and that there was a body to take back to. The way you describe it Shepard was little more than mince
No me gusta.
(Still wound't survive reentry to Earth without a helmet and with a badly damaged armor though)
Modifié par BatmanTurian, 25 mai 2012 - 09:28 .
balance5050 wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
I'm pretty sure it's explained that the suit can take radiation in limited quantities. Space suits are designed like that.
It's possible. I'm looking for that description.
Modern space suits do this.... It can't withstand insane amounts, but low levels.
EpyonX3 wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
I'm pretty sure it's explained that the suit can take radiation in limited quantities. Space suits are designed like that.
It's possible. I'm looking for that description.
Modern space suits do this.... It can't withstand insane amounts, but low levels.
How many of them are used for combat? I know technology advances to insane levels but fighting radiation is something you can't get around by simply improving technology.
excelon wrote...
With alot of help from Wolfram Mathematica I've calculated that shepard will actually not burn up! The 0.83 Atmospheric pressures of Alchera is thin enough that the time he reaches the planets surface all that would effect him is the impact (This is assuming Shepards suit is made of a hardened material like steel which has a melting point of 2000 C). I determined impact velocity to be about 400 m/s using Newtonian Mechanics. This would be enough to Blow him apart on impact. This must have been real work for Bioware because all of the math is adding up!
EpyonX3 wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
I'm pretty sure it's explained that the suit can take radiation in limited quantities. Space suits are designed like that.
It's possible. I'm looking for that description.
Modern space suits do this.... It can't withstand insane amounts, but low levels.
How many of them are used for combat? I know technology advances to insane levels but fighting radiation is something you can't get around by simply improving technology.
Modifié par BatmanTurian, 25 mai 2012 - 09:34 .
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