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BatmanTurian wrote...
guys... i think i just had a lightbulb moment. What if the Crucible's design is based on the mass accelerator that struck Klendagon?
byne wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
byne wrote...
You know what, I just remembered something.
Legion recovered the piece of your armor he wears from the Normandy wreckage.
Yknow, the wreckage on the planet.
Unless you're going to grasp at straws and be like 'Nah man, that was Shepard's formal armor, she only wore that for special occasions, she was wearing different armor at the time of the crash,' I believe I have won this argument.
I absolutely LOVE this scene. This is the moment Legion became my favorite character in ME2.
The question is. Why is the armor still ripped up? It does very little to close the gapping hole in legion's chest. I never bought his story, I was hoping that ME3 would clarify this. He was obviously holding information when he said no data available.
Hmm, I can think of one thing that would either completely confirm or debunk my hypothesis that the armor Legion recovered from Alchera was in fact the same armor Shepard was wearing during the crash.
Liara had the armor Shep was wearing when she recovered her body in a glass case in her apartment on Illium.
If anyone has a ME2 save close to that point, load it up, and get us a screenshot of the armor from Liara's apartment. See if it is missing the chunk Legion is wearing
BatmanTurian wrote...
guys... i think i just had a lightbulb moment. What if the Crucible's design is based on the mass accelerator that struck Klendagon?
BatmanTurian wrote...
guys... i think i just had a lightbulb moment. What if the Crucible's design is based on the mass accelerator that struck Klendagon?
Modifié par D.Sharrah, 25 mai 2012 - 10:00 .
MissOuJ wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
Terminal velocity is the maximal velocity an object can reach when accelerating in a non-vacuum medium, for example atmosphere or fluid.
Ahh! Learn something new every day!
... Shepard('s body) can't really travel towards Alchera's atmosphere at that speed after that explosion, though - or can it? What'd be the terminal velocity of Shepard?
Modifié par BatmanTurian, 25 mai 2012 - 09:58 .
BatmanTurian wrote...
So, it's the maximum velocity achieved by the pull of gravity and buffered by atmospheric friction, amirite?
Modifié par byne, 25 mai 2012 - 10:00 .
byne wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
byne wrote...
You know what, I just remembered something.
Legion recovered the piece of your armor he wears from the Normandy wreckage.
Yknow, the wreckage on the planet.
Unless you're going to grasp at straws and be like 'Nah man, that was Shepard's formal armor, she only wore that for special occasions, she was wearing different armor at the time of the crash,' I believe I have won this argument.
I absolutely LOVE this scene. This is the moment Legion became my favorite character in ME2.
The question is. Why is the armor still ripped up? It does very little to close the gapping hole in legion's chest. I never bought his story, I was hoping that ME3 would clarify this. He was obviously holding information when he said no data available.
Hmm, I can think of one thing that would either completely confirm or debunk my hypothesis that the armor Legion recovered from Alchera was in fact the same armor Shepard was wearing during the crash.
Liara had the armor Shep was wearing when she recovered her body in a glass case in her apartment on Illium.
If anyone has a ME2 save close to that point, load it up, and get us a screenshot of the armor from Liara's apartment. See if it is missing the chunk Legion is wearing
read the codex i posted. The round was shot 37 million years ago. the crucible has been added to by many races over many cycles. It seems plausible that it could be this mass accelerator weapon. The reapers that exist now may not have existed then because they lose some in every cycle. So its existence could have been forgotten by the Reapers, lost, and rediscovered by organics.EpyonX3 wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
guys... i think i just had a lightbulb moment. What if the Crucible's design is based on the mass accelerator that struck Klendagon?
That would imply that it was used. And then the reapers would have known about it and its intentions. No way the plans would have survived then.
It could be a civilization's last stand and in an act of desperation, nuked the entire planet in an attempt to kill the reapers.
Modifié par BatmanTurian, 25 mai 2012 - 10:03 .
BatmanTurian wrote...
MissOuJ wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
Terminal velocity is the maximal velocity an object can reach when accelerating in a non-vacuum medium, for example atmosphere or fluid.
Ahh! Learn something new every day!
... Shepard('s body) can't really travel towards Alchera's atmosphere at that speed after that explosion, though - or can it? What'd be the terminal velocity of Shepard?
Encyclopedia Britannica
terminal velocity
steady speed achieved by an object freely falling through a gas or liquid. A typical terminal velocity for a parachutist who delays opening the chute is about 150 miles (240 kilometres) per hour. Raindrops fall at a much lower terminal velocity, and a mist of tiny oil droplets settles at an exceedingly small terminal velocity. An object dropped from rest will increase its speed until it reaches terminal velocity; an object forced to move faster than its terminal velocity will, upon release, slow down to this constant velocity.
So, it's the maximum velocity achieved by the pull of gravity and buffered by atmospheric friction, amirite?
EpyonX3 wrote...
Found it but can't screen shot it. it's in this video. It looks like the center chest plate is mostly in tact, just missing the arms. Legion used a goo portion of that chest plate.
BatmanTurian wrote...
read the codex i posted. The round was shot 37 million years ago. the crucible has been added to by many races over many cycles. It seems plausible that it could be this mass accelerator weapon. The reapers that exist now may not have existed then because they lose some in every cycle. So its existence could have been forgotten by the Reapers, lost, and rediscovered by organics.EpyonX3 wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
guys... i think i just had a lightbulb moment. What if the Crucible's design is based on the mass accelerator that struck Klendagon?
That would imply that it was used. And then the reapers would have known about it and its intentions. No way the plans would have survived then.
It could be a civilization's last stand and in an act of desperation, nuked the entire planet in an attempt to kill the reapers.
byne wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
Found it but can't screen shot it. it's in this video. It looks like the center chest plate is mostly in tact, just missing the arms. Legion used a goo portion of that chest plate.
No, Legion only seemed to really use the top right part of the chestplate, and the right shoulder part of the armor.
BatmanTurian wrote...
read the codex i posted. The round was shot 37 million years ago. the crucible has been added to by many races over many cycles. It seems plausible that it could be this mass accelerator weapon. The reapers that exist now may not have existed then because they lose some in every cycle. So its existence could have been forgotten by the Reapers, lost, and rediscovered by organics.EpyonX3 wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
guys... i think i just had a lightbulb moment. What if the Crucible's design is based on the mass accelerator that struck Klendagon?
That would imply that it was used. And then the reapers would have known about it and its intentions. No way the plans would have survived then.
It could be a civilization's last stand and in an act of desperation, nuked the entire planet in an attempt to kill the reapers.
MissOuJ wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
MissOuJ wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
Terminal velocity is the maximal velocity an object can reach when accelerating in a non-vacuum medium, for example atmosphere or fluid.
Ahh! Learn something new every day!
... Shepard('s body) can't really travel towards Alchera's atmosphere at that speed after that explosion, though - or can it? What'd be the terminal velocity of Shepard?
Encyclopedia Britannica
terminal velocity
steady speed achieved by an object freely falling through a gas or liquid. A typical terminal velocity for a parachutist who delays opening the chute is about 150 miles (240 kilometres) per hour. Raindrops fall at a much lower terminal velocity, and a mist of tiny oil droplets settles at an exceedingly small terminal velocity. An object dropped from rest will increase its speed until it reaches terminal velocity; an object forced to move faster than its terminal velocity will, upon release, slow down to this constant velocity.
So, it's the maximum velocity achieved by the pull of gravity and buffered by atmospheric friction, amirite?
Well, yeah, but my original question was whether or not Shepard's speed was high enough to hit Alchera's atmosthere with enough force for Shepard's body to actually enter the atmosphere and not just enter Alchera's gavitation pull and hang out in the outher atmosphere like the Bungie poster claimed it would.
EpyonX3 wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
read the codex i posted. The round was shot 37 million years ago. the crucible has been added to by many races over many cycles. It seems plausible that it could be this mass accelerator weapon. The reapers that exist now may not have existed then because they lose some in every cycle. So its existence could have been forgotten by the Reapers, lost, and rediscovered by organics.EpyonX3 wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
guys... i think i just had a lightbulb moment. What if the Crucible's design is based on the mass accelerator that struck Klendagon?
That would imply that it was used. And then the reapers would have known about it and its intentions. No way the plans would have survived then.
It could be a civilization's last stand and in an act of desperation, nuked the entire planet in an attempt to kill the reapers.
Whoops thought you meant mars for some reason. Still though I'm sure those plans would not have passed down after that since the reapers clearly won.
Also, although the reapers may not last every cycle, they're collective knowledege does.
D.Sharrah wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
read the codex i posted. The round was shot 37 million years ago. the crucible has been added to by many races over many cycles. It seems plausible that it could be this mass accelerator weapon. The reapers that exist now may not have existed then because they lose some in every cycle. So its existence could have been forgotten by the Reapers, lost, and rediscovered by organics.EpyonX3 wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
guys... i think i just had a lightbulb moment. What if the Crucible's design is based on the mass accelerator that struck Klendagon?
That would imply that it was used. And then the reapers would have known about it and its intentions. No way the plans would have survived then.
It could be a civilization's last stand and in an act of desperation, nuked the entire planet in an attempt to kill the reapers.
Again, I think that is plausible...and would explain TIM's apparent knowledge of the Crucible and where do go look for the data he would need to get it working again...
D.Sharrah wrote...
byne wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
Found it but can't screen shot it. it's in this video. It looks like the center chest plate is mostly in tact, just missing the arms. Legion used a goo portion of that chest plate.
No, Legion only seemed to really use the top right part of the chestplate, and the right shoulder part of the armor.
Exactly. I think that the piece Liara has is the back...which doesn't really answer the question of if it is the armor Shepard was wearing...
I'm not sure but TIM tells Shepard in ME2 about the weapon before or after the mission.byne wrote...
D.Sharrah wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
read the codex i posted. The round was shot 37 million years ago. the crucible has been added to by many races over many cycles. It seems plausible that it could be this mass accelerator weapon. The reapers that exist now may not have existed then because they lose some in every cycle. So its existence could have been forgotten by the Reapers, lost, and rediscovered by organics.EpyonX3 wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
guys... i think i just had a lightbulb moment. What if the Crucible's design is based on the mass accelerator that struck Klendagon?
That would imply that it was used. And then the reapers would have known about it and its intentions. No way the plans would have survived then.
It could be a civilization's last stand and in an act of desperation, nuked the entire planet in an attempt to kill the reapers.
Again, I think that is plausible...and would explain TIM's apparent knowledge of the Crucible and where do go look for the data he would need to get it working again...
I always found it odd that in ME2 TIM was all "We've been able to track down what they were firing at when they created the Great Rift" but he never says anything about the weapon they were using.
Logically he should be able to track that down too, right?
Maybe he tracked that too, and it led him to the Citadel?
Would explain his motives for the coup.
Udina's motives are explained, but never TIM's.
EpyonX3 wrote...
D.Sharrah wrote...
byne wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
Found it but can't screen shot it. it's in this video. It looks like the center chest plate is mostly in tact, just missing the arms. Legion used a goo portion of that chest plate.
No, Legion only seemed to really use the top right part of the chestplate, and the right shoulder part of the armor.
Exactly. I think that the piece Liara has is the back...which doesn't really answer the question of if it is the armor Shepard was wearing...
Ahh it's the back, damn I wish I still had my copy of ME2 around. I'd fly cam the crap out of that level.
BatmanTurian wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
read the codex i posted. The round was shot 37 million years ago. the crucible has been added to by many races over many cycles. It seems plausible that it could be this mass accelerator weapon. The reapers that exist now may not have existed then because they lose some in every cycle. So its existence could have been forgotten by the Reapers, lost, and rediscovered by organics.EpyonX3 wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
guys... i think i just had a lightbulb moment. What if the Crucible's design is based on the mass accelerator that struck Klendagon?
That would imply that it was used. And then the reapers would have known about it and its intentions. No way the plans would have survived then.
It could be a civilization's last stand and in an act of desperation, nuked the entire planet in an attempt to kill the reapers.
Whoops thought you meant mars for some reason. Still though I'm sure those plans would not have passed down after that since the reapers clearly won.
Also, although the reapers may not last every cycle, they're collective knowledege does.
Plans could have been lost and then found a cycle or two later. The Reapers don't scour everything clean or there would be nothing left of the Prothean civilization.
Modifié par paxxton, 25 mai 2012 - 10:13 .
EpyonX3 wrote...
True. But then the reapers have to see something as valuable before the take or destroy it. That and protheans were really good at hiding things, I mean we found one 50K years after.
Modifié par byne, 25 mai 2012 - 10:14 .
BatmanTurian wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
read the codex i posted. The round was shot 37 million years ago. the crucible has been added to by many races over many cycles. It seems plausible that it could be this mass accelerator weapon. The reapers that exist now may not have existed then because they lose some in every cycle. So its existence could have been forgotten by the Reapers, lost, and rediscovered by organics.EpyonX3 wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
guys... i think i just had a lightbulb moment. What if the Crucible's design is based on the mass accelerator that struck Klendagon?
That would imply that it was used. And then the reapers would have known about it and its intentions. No way the plans would have survived then.
It could be a civilization's last stand and in an act of desperation, nuked the entire planet in an attempt to kill the reapers.
Whoops thought you meant mars for some reason. Still though I'm sure those plans would not have passed down after that since the reapers clearly won.
Also, although the reapers may not last every cycle, they're collective knowledege does.
Plans could have been lost and then found a cycle or two later. The Reapers don't scour everything clean or there would be nothing left of the Prothean civilization.
byne wrote...
D.Sharrah wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
read the codex i posted. The round was shot 37 million years ago. the crucible has been added to by many races over many cycles. It seems plausible that it could be this mass accelerator weapon. The reapers that exist now may not have existed then because they lose some in every cycle. So its existence could have been forgotten by the Reapers, lost, and rediscovered by organics.EpyonX3 wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
guys... i think i just had a lightbulb moment. What if the Crucible's design is based on the mass accelerator that struck Klendagon?
That would imply that it was used. And then the reapers would have known about it and its intentions. No way the plans would have survived then.
It could be a civilization's last stand and in an act of desperation, nuked the entire planet in an attempt to kill the reapers.
Again, I think that is plausible...and would explain TIM's apparent knowledge of the Crucible and where do go look for the data he would need to get it working again...
I always found it odd that in ME2 TIM was all "We've been able to track down what they were firing at when they created the Great Rift" but he never says anything about the weapon they were using.
Logically he should be able to track that down too, right?
Maybe he tracked that too, and it led him to the Citadel?
Would explain his motives for the coup.
Udina's motives are explained, but never TIM's.
Modifié par D.Sharrah, 25 mai 2012 - 10:17 .
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