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[RavenEyry]

The 'crucible has been destroyed' thing never bothered me because the battle is still going on in space while Shep lies around all unconscious.

[DJBare]

paxxton wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Shepard has had the ability to indoctrinate people throughout the series.

What!?

What do you think those paragon and renegade choices are?, indoctrination is a means of convincing people to see things your way, cult leaders for example use indoctrination, the method can be friendly or forcefull, but the result is the same, getting people to follow your way of thinking.

[OneWithTheAssassins]

You know, every day I come by the forums in the hope that Bioware will say something, about the EC release date, that IT is true, anything really to satify my need to know if things will turn out ok. I know I have to wait untill sometime this summer for EC and its not that far away, but it just keeps getting harder and harder each day for some reason. Its a little exhausting actually.

[jojon2se]

Hmmm, fail the indoctrination attempt and be treated a scene of masses of people "walking towards the light"... :9

[DJBare]

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

You know, every day I come by the forums in the hope that Bioware will say something, about the EC release date, that IT is true, anything really to satify my need to know if things will turn out ok. I know I have to wait untill sometime this summer for EC and its not that far away, but it just keeps getting harder and harder each day for some reason. Its a little exhausting actually.

I only expect one announcement from them, the release date, they will not say if it contain's I.T as that will defeat the whole purpose if true.

[OneWithTheAssassins]

DJBare wrote...

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

You know, every day I come by the forums in the hope that Bioware will say something, about the EC release date, that IT is true, anything really to satify my need to know if things will turn out ok. I know I have to wait untill sometime this summer for EC and its not that far away, but it just keeps getting harder and harder each day for some reason. Its a little exhausting actually.

I only expect one announcement from them, the release date, they will not say if it contain's I.T as that will defeat the whole purpose if true.

I know, I'm just hoping for anything at this point really.

[Munsterlander]

DJBare wrote...

paxxton wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Shepard has had the ability to indoctrinate people throughout the series.

What!?

What do you think those paragon and renegade choices are?, indoctrination is a means of convincing people to see things your way, cult leaders for example use indoctrination, the method can be friendly or forcefull, but the result is the same, getting people to follow your way of thinking.

Right... But I wouldn't say he's indocrinating people. Although you are correct, when it comes to Mass Effect that word gets a whole other meaning. I've always just said he can be very convincing.

[paxxton]

DJBare wrote...

paxxton wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Shepard has had the ability to indoctrinate people throughout the series.

What!?

What do you think those paragon and renegade choices are?, indoctrination is a means of convincing people to see things your way, cult leaders for example use indoctrination, the method can be friendly or forcefull, but the result is the same, getting people to follow your way of thinking.

You're using a very broad definition of indoctrination. I'm not even sure if it can be still considered as such (http://en.wikipedia....iki/Inculcation). The talks in ME are more like chit-chats than long-term targeted conditioning.

EDIT: Paragon/Renegade actions have their desired effects because the people you talk to have some prior "education" as to how they should behave in a social environment. Shepard merely utilizes this. He does not indoctrinate them.

Modifié par paxxton, 26 mai 2012 - 10:46 .

[DirtyPhoenix]

Bioware better announce the release date of EC or this unit would lose its soul.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

pirate1802 wrote...

Bioware better announce the release date of EC or this unit would lose its soul.

They'll probably announce it at E3, unless it comes out that day. I'm hoping it comes out early June that way they can announce what's next beyond EC. Or maybe they'll do both, who knows.

[Munsterlander]

D.Sharrah wrote...

Haven't played any MP...but just thought of a question for those that do...are the matches exclusive to the platform you are on?  I mean can 360 players only play w/360 players, PC players w/PC players, etc. or can you play with anyone online?  Just morbid curiosity more than anything else.

I know you said this a while ago, but I just felt I should mention you seem to have the definition a morbid curiosity wrong. Morbid curiosity is when one is curios about death. 

[LelianaHawke]

Dammit Byne, IT sucks.

(Knows Byne irl)

[paxxton]

Munsterlander wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Haven't played any MP...but just thought of a question for those that do...are the matches exclusive to the platform you are on?  I mean can 360 players only play w/360 players, PC players w/PC players, etc. or can you play with anyone online?  Just morbid curiosity more than anything else.

I know you said this a while ago, but I just felt I should mention you seem to have the definition a morbid curiosity wrong. Morbid curiosity is when one is curios about death. 

http://www.urbandict...orbid curiosity

Modifié par paxxton, 26 mai 2012 - 11:11 .

[Rosewind]

LelianaHawke wrote...

Dammit Byne, IT sucks.

(Knows Byne irl)

Oooo don't rag on our master .... i mean leader...

[LelianaHawke]

Was kindof surprised when I found out.

Personally, I think there's some elements of indoctrination there, but I don't believe indoc is strong enough to cause a full blown hallucination.

Shepard is confused due to being so close to reaper tech, but still experiencing reality on some level.

Modifié par LelianaHawke, 26 mai 2012 - 11:19 .

[DirtyPhoenix]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Bioware better announce the release date of EC or this unit would lose its soul.

They'll probably announce it at E3, unless it comes out that day. I'm hoping it comes out early June that way they can announce what's next beyond EC. Or maybe they'll do both, who knows.

I'm not impatient but this is getting on my nerves. To much time just make a few cutscenes don't yopu think?

[Arian Dynas]

LelianaHawke wrote...

Was kindof surprised when I found out.

Personally, I think there's some elements of indoctrination there, but I don't believe indoc is strong enough to cause a full blown hallucination.

Shepard is confused due to being so close to reaper tech, but still experiencing reality on some level.

Which is....?

(hint, rhymes with "allucination")

We've seen people full on hallucinating with indoctrination too, the Cerberus scientists, feelings of being watched, auditory hallucinations, like the whispers, ect.

[Icinix]

I've decided to come to the bat crap crazy conclusion that the conduit isn't a conduit at all - but is a giant indoctrination device that sucks everyone into thinking they need to get towards it some how.

How the hell does anyone possibly know that it sends people up to the citadel? There is no way of knowing it does anything of the sort.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

pirate1802 wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Bioware better announce the release date of EC or this unit would lose its soul.

They'll probably announce it at E3, unless it comes out that day. I'm hoping it comes out early June that way they can announce what's next beyond EC. Or maybe they'll do both, who knows.

I'm not impatient but this is getting on my nerves. To much time just make a few cutscenes don't yopu think?

I would  think that about a few cutscenes, but perhaps it's more than a few . Or, they're few but Bioware is spending extra time crafting them so most of us are left satisfied.

Arian Dynas wrote...

Which is....?

(hint, rhymes with "allucination")

We've
seen people full on hallucinating with indoctrination too, the Cerberus
scientists, feelings of being watched, auditory hallucinations, like
the whispers, ect.

Don't forget the nightmares of Arrival. Speaking of, did I mention a Banshee found it's way into one of my dreams? I didn't think I could take off flying in a dream so fast till I hear the shriek and saw it running at me. Now that I've scared the ****** out of myself remembering, I'm off to bed. Night all.

[Arian Dynas]

My dreams rarely frighten me because deep down, I ascribe to the predator school of thought. "If it bleeds, I can kill it."

[Rosewind]

Arian Dynas wrote...

LelianaHawke wrote...

Was kindof surprised when I found out.

Personally, I think there's some elements of indoctrination there, but I don't believe indoc is strong enough to cause a full blown hallucination.

Shepard is confused due to being so close to reaper tech, but still experiencing reality on some level.

Which is....?

(hint, rhymes with "allucination")

*snip*

Hahaha had to really think about that one, man I must stop drinking lol

[estebanus]

Arian Dynas wrote...

My dreams rarely frighten me because deep down, I ascribe to the predator school of thought. "If it bleeds, I can kill it."

But... what if it doesn't bleed? What if it's a huge immortal machine who's only purpose in life is to kill you?

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Arian Dynas wrote...

My dreams rarely frighten me because deep down, I ascribe to the predator school of thought. "If it bleeds, I can kill it."

It's the shock value of something unexpected happening in my dream that usually scares me awake. Most of the time I figure out I'm in a dream and start changing things (usually give myself superpowers, flight more often than not and not always successfully). If it's a story-like dream I can even change the plot, so when a Banshee pops in out of nowhere in a quiet setting screaming and running at me, it can be shocking as hell if it wasn't planned.

But now I'm getting off topic again, and seriously going to bed now.

[LelianaHawke]

Confusion is not the same as complete hallucination.

IT states that the endings didn't happen at all. I don't believe indoc is powerful enough to cause that complete state of hallucination, where you are transported to a completely different environment.

It is enough to believe you to act differently to what is already happening, but it can't insert a complete new reality. You can exprience things like phantasms and whispers in the background, but your environment essentially stays the same.

Indoc is more a strong suggesiton, as government leaders while indoctrinated still need to function in reality. They don't get transported to a land of unicorns and ponies.

Modifié par LelianaHawke, 26 mai 2012 - 11:54 .

[paxxton]

There's a new poll on BSN. Go and vote. Should ME4 continue Shepard's story?
http://social.biowar...66/polls/34384/

Modifié par paxxton, 26 mai 2012 - 11:54 .