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MegumiAzusa wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Where did everyone go?

It's the weekend, we've not got things to pretend to be doing :P
Also there's a multiplayer event on, so I'm about to start improving my N7 score (currently 18, go me!)

Arian Dynas wrote...

Actually, Destroy is not an option
ever given by The Guardian at all. It's an option given to you by
Anderson. THEN he comments about how he "Knows you've thought about
destroying us." 

This is a very very important point.
If you watch closely, the catalyst doesn't really say that in order to destroy them, all synthetic life will be destroyed, or even give you the option. It says that you could try to wipe out all synthetic life, and lets you tie yourself in knots over something it's never actually said.

It is a very clever piece of dialogue.

It actually says:
"You can wipe out all synthetic life if you want."
there is nothing about trying.

Low EMS stuff:
"The Crucible changed me. Created new... possibilities. But I can't make them happen.
And I won't."
"Make what happen?"
"What you came here to do.
You want to destroy us./You want to control us.
Now you could interpret the "And I won't." as that it will stop you if you try (hence sheparddead plays in the Normandy scene and no one steps out).

He says "And I won't" when EMS is slightly higher and still people come out of the Normandy. So it means that he doesn't want to do anything rather than try to stop you. He leaves the choice up to you.

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boeloe wrote...

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I hope I am not the only one here who remembered that the Normandy has a piece of Reaper tech constantly on board in the form of the IFF? Just saying. :P


Is it somewhere stated that it is still there? It could (should?) have been removed during the refitting of the normandy. It's only purpose was to able to pass through the omega-4 relay, so why would the alliance leave it on board?


EDI mentions it's still installed and she's "evolving the cyberwarfare suite around" it during conversation (paraphrasing). I believe it's become part of the Normandy's stealth systems in terms of avoiding direct Reaper contact outside of scanning.

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

I think it was all the way back in the first IT thread we were talking about Husk brains and how intact they would be after "huskification"? Anyway, managed to snag a close up after a sniper round:
*snip*
Didn't think there'd be cables inside the brain, but interesting nonetheless. Anyway, back to Shieldwall *salute*



Good luck! I've already completed Shieldwall, so I guess I won't be joining you! *salutes*

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estebanus wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

I think it was all the way back in the first IT thread we were talking about Husk brains and how intact they would be after "huskification"? Anyway, managed to snag a close up after a sniper round:
*snip*
Didn't think there'd be cables inside the brain, but interesting nonetheless. Anyway, back to Shieldwall *salute*



Good luck! I've already completed Shieldwall, so I guess I won't be joining you! *salutes*


Already promoted 5 of the classes (had 2 20s and 3 17-18 before I heard about the op) now I'm just working on getting Engineer going :). Figure if I do double the squad goal I'll make up for not killing enough Banshee's last op. I don't like playing as an eng though, with the drones making that... sound. But oh well I'll just pack on the big guns and hope for the best.

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

estebanus wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

I think it was all the way back in the first IT thread we were talking about Husk brains and how intact they would be after "huskification"? Anyway, managed to snag a close up after a sniper round:
*snip*
Didn't think there'd be cables inside the brain, but interesting nonetheless. Anyway, back to Shieldwall *salute*



Good luck! I've already completed Shieldwall, so I guess I won't be joining you! *salutes*


Already promoted 5 of the classes (had 2 20s and 3 17-18 before I heard about the op) now I'm just working on getting Engineer going :). Figure if I do double the squad goal I'll make up for not killing enough Banshee's last op. I don't like playing as an eng though, with the drones making that... sound. But oh well I'll just pack on the big guns and hope for the best.



I promoted all 6 classes today, and I'm currently focusing on finding more evidence for the IT!

I agree though, I'm not a huge fan of engineers... My favourite class is the vanguard, then comes the infiltrator, then sentinel.

Come to think of it, I've never really been a fan of a class that only specializes in 1 thing...

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

boeloe wrote...

CARL_DF90 wrote...

I hope I am not the only one here who remembered that the Normandy has a piece of Reaper tech constantly on board in the form of the IFF? Just saying. :P


Is it somewhere stated that it is still there? It could (should?) have been removed during the refitting of the normandy. It's only purpose was to able to pass through the omega-4 relay, so why would the alliance leave it on board?


EDI mentions it's still installed and she's "evolving the cyberwarfare suite around" it during conversation (paraphrasing). I believe it's become part of the Normandy's stealth systems in terms of avoiding direct Reaper contact outside of scanning.



And you would be correct. I'm just surprised more people have not caught on earlier. Posted Image

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estebanus wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

I think it was all the way back in the first IT thread we were talking about Husk brains and how intact they would be after "huskification"? Anyway, managed to snag a close up after a sniper round:
*snip*
Didn't think there'd be cables inside the brain, but interesting nonetheless. Anyway, back to Shieldwall *salute*



Good luck! I've already completed Shieldwall, so I guess I won't be joining you! *salutes*


yeah shieldwall was freakin' easy

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

boeloe wrote...

CARL_DF90 wrote...

I hope I am not the only one here who remembered that the Normandy has a piece of Reaper tech constantly on board in the form of the IFF? Just saying. :P


Is it somewhere stated that it is still there? It could (should?) have been removed during the refitting of the normandy. It's only purpose was to able to pass through the omega-4 relay, so why would the alliance leave it on board?


EDI mentions it's still installed and she's "evolving the cyberwarfare suite around" it during conversation (paraphrasing). I believe it's become part of the Normandy's stealth systems in terms of avoiding direct Reaper contact outside of scanning.


:lol: Ok, I guess there a good grounds then to state that the normandy crew have begun their descent into indoctrination.

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You know, the poll in the HTL forums give me hope...

Hope, that in the end, all of those insults and belittling we've endured, will finally pay off, and that we will be the people in the right...

I can't stop comparing the IT to Shepard trying to warn the council about the reapers...

currently, 81% have voted "yes." I hope that this will actually mean something for the EC...

Modifié par estebanus, 27 mai 2012 - 01:07 .


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estebanus wrote...

You know, the poll in the HTL forums give me hope...

Hope, that in the end, all of those insults and belittling we've endured, will finally pay off, and that we will be the people in the right...

I can't stop comparing the IT to Shepard trying to warn the council about the reapers...

currently, 81% have voted "yes." I hope that this will actually mean something for the EC...

You mean 21.12.2012. Posted Image

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estebanus wrote...

You know, the poll in the HTL forums give me hope...

Hope, that in the end, all of those insults and belittling we've endured, will finally pay off, and that we will be the people in the right...

I can't stop comparing the IT to Shepard trying to warn the council about the reapers...

currently, 81% have voted "yes." I hope that this will actually mean something for the EC...


Honestly, the moment I saw that poll, I was convinced Bioware was taking it seriously.

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paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

You know, the poll in the HTL forums give me hope...

Hope, that in the end, all of those insults and belittling we've endured, will finally pay off, and that we will be the people in the right...

I can't stop comparing the IT to Shepard trying to warn the council about the reapers...

currently, 81% have voted "yes." I hope that this will actually mean something for the EC...

You mean 21.12.2012. Posted Image


I really hope there won't be mass suicides. Then again, winning the Darwin award is good for our species at-large I guess.

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BatmanTurian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

You know, the poll in the HTL forums give me hope...

Hope, that in the end, all of those insults and belittling we've endured, will finally pay off, and that we will be the people in the right...

I can't stop comparing the IT to Shepard trying to warn the council about the reapers...

currently, 81% have voted "yes." I hope that this will actually mean something for the EC...

You mean 21.12.2012. Posted Image


I really hope there won't be mass suicides. Then again, winning the Darwin award is good for our species at-large I guess.



The Darwin awards are hilarious. I've got 3 books about them.

Save our genepool!

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I geuss since I don't play MP I just expect there to be some activity here...like I said ealier coming here is helping me avoid playing my ultimate renegon playthrough...and if there is no activity I might have to go be a jerk.

Edit: Does anyone else still feel a little strange when they see a post of theirs in the middle of a giant quote tree?

Modifié par D.Sharrah, 27 mai 2012 - 01:17 .


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paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

You know, the poll in the HTL forums give me hope...

Hope, that in the end, all of those insults and belittling we've endured, will finally pay off, and that we will be the people in the right...

I can't stop comparing the IT to Shepard trying to warn the council about the reapers...

currently, 81% have voted "yes." I hope that this will actually mean something for the EC...

You mean 21.12.2012. Posted Image



It would be pretty weird if the EC would be released on that day...
What if the fans' reaction to the EC will be so negative that the energy released from their butthurt bellyaching will be so heavy, that it produces infinite numbers of dark energy that suddenly destroys the sun?

FORESHADOWING.

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BatmanTurian wrote...

estebanus wrote...

You know, the poll in the HTL forums give me hope...

Hope, that in the end, all of those insults and belittling we've endured, will finally pay off, and that we will be the people in the right...

I can't stop comparing the IT to Shepard trying to warn the council about the reapers...

currently, 81% have voted "yes." I hope that this will actually mean something for the EC...


Honestly, the moment I saw that poll, I was convinced Bioware was taking it seriously.



Me, too. At least we now know that Bioware have considered us, at the least!

Maybe the poll was trying to find out what the fans' reaction to the inclusion/exlusion of the IT would be...

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D.Sharrah wrote...

I geuss since I don't play MP I just expect there to be some activity here...like I said ealier coming here is helping me avoid playing my ultimate renegon playthrough...and if there is no activity I might have to go be a jerk.

Edit: Does anyone else still feel a little strange when they see a post of theirs in the middle of a giant quote tree?

Why?

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estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

You know, the poll in the HTL forums give me hope...

Hope, that in the end, all of those insults and belittling we've endured, will finally pay off, and that we will be the people in the right...

I can't stop comparing the IT to Shepard trying to warn the council about the reapers...

currently, 81% have voted "yes." I hope that this will actually mean something for the EC...

You mean 21.12.2012. Posted Image



It would be pretty weird if the EC would be released on that day...
What if the fans' reaction to the EC will be so negative that the energy released from their butthurt bellyaching will be so heavy, that it produces infinite numbers of dark energy that suddenly destroys the sun?

FORESHADOWING.

I suppose we'd have another Haestrom on Earth. And Tali would come here to investigate! Posted Image And the geth! Posted Image

Modifié par paxxton, 27 mai 2012 - 01:27 .


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BatmanTurian wrote...

estebanus wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

I think it was all the way back in the first IT thread we were talking about Husk brains and how intact they would be after "huskification"? Anyway, managed to snag a close up after a sniper round:
*snip*
Didn't think there'd be cables inside the brain, but interesting nonetheless. Anyway, back to Shieldwall *salute*



Good luck! I've already completed Shieldwall, so I guess I won't be joining you! *salutes*


yeah shieldwall was freakin' easy


(Shhhh don't say that too loud they'll make it a million promotions next time.)
Yeah, that Operation this weekend sure is tough, I managed to just barely get time in to level all my guys.... <_<

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

estebanus wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

I think it was all the way back in the first IT thread we were talking about Husk brains and how intact they would be after "huskification"? Anyway, managed to snag a close up after a sniper round:
*snip*
Didn't think there'd be cables inside the brain, but interesting nonetheless. Anyway, back to Shieldwall *salute*



Good luck! I've already completed Shieldwall, so I guess I won't be joining you! *salutes*


yeah shieldwall was freakin' easy


(Shhhh don't say that too loud they'll make it a million promotions next time.)
Yeah, that Operation this weekend sure is tough, I managed to just barely get time in to level all my guys.... <_<


Yeah, I certainly havent already had every class sitting at 20, just anticipating another promotion weekend for the last few months.

Not at all.

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paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

You know, the poll in the HTL forums give me hope...

Hope, that in the end, all of those insults and belittling we've endured, will finally pay off, and that we will be the people in the right...

I can't stop comparing the IT to Shepard trying to warn the council about the reapers...

currently, 81% have voted "yes." I hope that this will actually mean something for the EC...

You mean 21.12.2012. Posted Image



It would be pretty weird if the EC would be released on that day...
What if the fans' reaction to the EC will be so negative that the energy released from their butthurt bellyaching will be so heavy, that it produces infinite numbers of dark energy that suddenly destroys the sun?

FORESHADOWING.

I suppose we'd have another Haestrom on Earth. And Tali would come here to investigate! Posted Image And the geth! Posted Image



Uhmm... Did you misunderstand what I wrote?

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estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

You know, the poll in the HTL forums give me hope...

Hope, that in the end, all of those insults and belittling we've endured, will finally pay off, and that we will be the people in the right...

I can't stop comparing the IT to Shepard trying to warn the council about the reapers...

currently, 81% have voted "yes." I hope that this will actually mean something for the EC...

You mean 21.12.2012. Posted Image



It would be pretty weird if the EC would be released on that day...
What if the fans' reaction to the EC will be so negative that the energy released from their butthurt bellyaching will be so heavy, that it produces infinite numbers of dark energy that suddenly destroys the sun?

FORESHADOWING.

I suppose we'd have another Haestrom on Earth. And Tali would come here to investigate! Posted Image And the geth! Posted Image



Uhmm... Did you misunderstand what I wrote?

Maybe. What did you mean?

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estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

You know, the poll in the HTL forums give me hope...

Hope, that in the end, all of those insults and belittling we've endured, will finally pay off, and that we will be the people in the right...

I can't stop comparing the IT to Shepard trying to warn the council about the reapers...

currently, 81% have voted "yes." I hope that this will actually mean something for the EC...

You mean 21.12.2012. Posted Image



It would be pretty weird if the EC would be released on that day...
What if the fans' reaction to the EC will be so negative that the energy released from their butthurt bellyaching will be so heavy, that it produces infinite numbers of dark energy that suddenly destroys the sun?

FORESHADOWING.

I suppose we'd have another Haestrom on Earth. And Tali would come here to investigate! Posted Image And the geth! Posted Image



Uhmm... Did you misunderstand what I wrote?


Dark energy was destroying the sun on Haestrom too.

Did you understand what he wrote? ;)

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estebanus wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

You know, the poll in the HTL forums give me hope...

Hope, that in the end, all of those insults and belittling we've endured, will finally pay off, and that we will be the people in the right...

I can't stop comparing the IT to Shepard trying to warn the council about the reapers...

currently, 81% have voted "yes." I hope that this will actually mean something for the EC...

You mean 21.12.2012. Posted Image


I really hope there won't be mass suicides. Then again, winning the Darwin award is good for our species at-large I guess.



The Darwin awards are hilarious. I've got 3 books about them.

Save our genepool!


Apparently, they have a website. Who knew?

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 27 mai 2012 - 01:35 .


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paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

You know, the poll in the HTL forums give me hope...

Hope, that in the end, all of those insults and belittling we've endured, will finally pay off, and that we will be the people in the right...

I can't stop comparing the IT to Shepard trying to warn the council about the reapers...

currently, 81% have voted "yes." I hope that this will actually mean something for the EC...

You mean 21.12.2012. Posted Image



It would be pretty weird if the EC would be released on that day...
What if the fans' reaction to the EC will be so negative that the energy released from their butthurt bellyaching will be so heavy, that it produces infinite numbers of dark energy that suddenly destroys the sun?

FORESHADOWING.

I suppose we'd have another Haestrom on Earth. And Tali would come here to investigate! Posted Image And the geth! Posted Image



Uhmm... Did you misunderstand what I wrote?

Maybe. What did you mean?



Forget what I just wrote, I just understood what you meant.