Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!
#51
Опубликовано 14 Май 2012 - 05:32
At least that's what I saw whenever I looked at the thread. Good luck with this new one, best wishes to you.
#52
Опубликовано 14 Май 2012 - 05:33
I always thought it was weird how both Anderson and TIM always looked at you during that conversation, even when they're talking to each other. There is just something odd about it. Add it to the overly long list of other surreal oddities in the ending.Ownaholic wrote...
I just realized something very small, but interesting.
This one really does fit the bill of "grasping at straws", but it's interesting nonetheless.
When Anderson says "He's controlling you!", he actually looks at Shepard. Shepard is not shown on-screen, but he is standing behind TIM during this scene, at a closer-to-the-camera angle, which is where Anderson is looking.
37:10
Watch Anderson's eyes. He doesn't look at TIM. He looks at Shepard.If he was looking at TIM, his eyes would be slightly off to the right. But he's looking right over TIM's shoulder.
His eyes connect DIRECTLY with where Shepard is standing.
I just refuse to believe they created something so surreal by accident.
#53
Опубликовано 14 Май 2012 - 05:33
estebanus wrote...
DJBare wrote...
Really?, perhaps because certain folk could not stay on topic?estebanus wrote...
I... I don't understand... Why was it locked down?
Look... I'm truly sorry if it was purely me who did this...
It's ok. The previous thread was reaped after it grew large enough, and now life can spring anew. The cycle MUST continue.
I don't see it as a bad thing. At least now that 2000+ pages are gone we can compile all the evidence into a more manageable space.
Сообщение изменено: Unschuld, 14 Май 2012 - 05:34 .
#54
Опубликовано 14 Май 2012 - 05:34
I feel like I went off topic ALOT and motivated others to do so too, sorry..
Sooo Vent Boy is as creepy as ever with his feetless sightseeing ..
Сообщение изменено: lex0r11, 14 Май 2012 - 05:38 .
#55
Опубликовано 14 Май 2012 - 05:34
Just one of many, I'm guilty also, sometimes it's difficult not to get into an off topic discussion, much like this actually.estebanus wrote...
Look... I'm truly sorry if it was purely me who did this...
*slaps self*
On topic, to repeat, again, why would bioware publicly reveal a major spoiler like IT?(assuming IT)
#56
Опубликовано 14 Май 2012 - 05:34
#57
Опубликовано 14 Май 2012 - 05:34
Just build it up bigger than the original
Keep it up
#58
Опубликовано 14 Май 2012 - 05:35
estebanus wrote...
byne wrote...
estebanus wrote...
DJBare wrote...
Really?, perhaps because certain folk could not stay on topic?estebanus wrote...
I... I don't understand... Why was it locked down?
Look... I'm truly sorry if it was purely me who did this...
Dont worry, it wasnt just you, lots of people went off topic lots of times.
Thanks, Byne... I feel kinda guilty right now...
Some one needs an on-topic hug *hug*
#59
Опубликовано 14 Май 2012 - 05:36
Unschuld wrote...
estebanus wrote...
DJBare wrote...
Really?, perhaps because certain folk could not stay on topic?estebanus wrote...
I... I don't understand... Why was it locked down?
Look... I'm truly sorry if it was purely me who did this...
It's ok. The previous thread was reaped after it grew large enough, and now life can spring anew. The cycle MUST continue.
Maybe Mr. Priestly got sick of us making the same Gamer Poop quotes over and over. Oh well, it's now a whole new thread.
#60
Опубликовано 14 Май 2012 - 05:36
I'd focus on the main aspects of I.T, keeping the intro to this thread fairly basic yet convincing.
Things like.
-The kid and dreams.
-Shepard's state of mind.
-Arrival being a bridge to ME3 (Object Rho).
-Codex entries.
-Harbinger's beam and the 3 choices.
Let the "what if's" play out as they come.
#61
Опубликовано 14 Май 2012 - 05:36
DJBare wrote...
Bought this across also, the obvious weapon switch from Carnifex to Predator
well the predator was the gun used by anderson and it was the gun he gave you at the intro.
TIM used the carnifex, so it might be gameplay coincidence or a bit of symbolism.
carnifex <-> TIM <-> side of shepard being indocrinated
predator <-> anderson <-> resisting side of shepard
#62
Опубликовано 14 Май 2012 - 05:36
Unfortunately I am unable to monitor this thread at all times. If people would be so kind as to PM me whenever we uncover new evidence for inclusion in my guide I would be most grateful. I work very hard to keep it as up to date and comprehensive as possible.
Thanks
#63
Опубликовано 14 Май 2012 - 05:36
#64
Опубликовано 14 Май 2012 - 05:37
Silent Archer wrote...
In-game #1: Shadows opposed. (Left: Anderson, Right: Tim) Anderson’s pointing SW and Tim’s pointing SE
In-game
#2: Shadows facing inward (Left: Tim, Right: Anderson) Tim’s is still
facing SE despite now being on the other side of Anderson
In-game #3: Shadows opposed (Left: Anderson, Right: Tim)
After switching back, Anderson’s is still pointing SW and Tim’s pointing SE
In-game #4: (Tim behind anderson)
Shadows are still opposed even though Tim is now directly behind Anderson.
In-game #5 (Tim down)
After
Tim’s “death” the Shadows now seem to be possibly affected by the
centre console’s light source; with Shep’s and Anderson’s facing south
and Tim’s now facing East.
prettz wrote...
#65
Опубликовано 14 Май 2012 - 05:37
ME has always had a "canon" ending. It's just the way it works in the trilogy:
ME1 - Shepard defeats Sovereign
ME2 - Shepard defeats Collectors
ME3 - Shepard...???
This brings to mind the following questions:
1.) If IT is "real", would this imply "Destroy" is the true ending?
- In ME1/2, you didn't have alternate endings. You simply had alternate sub-plots opened (i.e. dead crew, saved Collector base). Why the sudden change now?
2.) If IT is "real" and "Destroy" is the true ending, where does that leave players that chose the other colors?
- My main concerns is that it seems clear that EA wants to milk the ME franchise for as much as it's worth. This means new games, regardless if it stars Shepard or not. Does this mean other games will assume Destroy is the true ending as well, discarding other players choices? To me, this implies that regardless of our Palette choice, there is still a "true" ending somewhere buried in the ending which isn't very obvious to me.
#66
Опубликовано 14 Май 2012 - 05:37
More importantly, why would they "make us suffer months before revealing IT to be correct" if it actually isn't correct? They'd just be bringing our hopes up until eventually crushing them.Dendio1 wrote...
Why would they make us suffer months before revealing IT to be correct. Why not just come out and admit it. I'll happily await the ending, if they can mercifully end speculations
Сообщение изменено: Sauruz, 14 Май 2012 - 05:39 .
#67
Опубликовано 14 Май 2012 - 05:38
Rosewind wrote...
estebanus wrote...
byne wrote...
estebanus wrote...
DJBare wrote...
Really?, perhaps because certain folk could not stay on topic?estebanus wrote...
I... I don't understand... Why was it locked down?
Look... I'm truly sorry if it was purely me who did this...
Dont worry, it wasnt just you, lots of people went off topic lots of times.
Thanks, Byne... I feel kinda guilty right now...
Some one needs an on-topic hug *hug*
Thanks, Rosewind... *Hugs back*
#68
Опубликовано 14 Май 2012 - 05:38
Unschuld wrote...
estebanus wrote...
DJBare wrote...
Really?, perhaps because certain folk could not stay on topic?estebanus wrote...
I... I don't understand... Why was it locked down?
Look... I'm truly sorry if it was purely me who did this...
It's ok. The previous thread was reaped after it grew large enough, and now life can spring anew. The cycle MUST continue.
I don't see it as a bad thing. At least now that 2000+ pages are gone we can compile all the evidence into a more manageable space.
Bioware is indoctrinating you!
Lol
#69
Опубликовано 14 Май 2012 - 05:39
nightcobra8928 wrote...
DJBare wrote...
Bought this across also, the obvious weapon switch from Carnifex to Predator
well the predator was the gun used by anderson and it was the gun he gave you at the intro.
TIM used the carnifex, so it might be gameplay coincidence or a bit of symbolism.
carnifex <-> TIM <-> side of shepard being indocrinated
predator <-> anderson <-> resisting side of shepard
I think someone just asked this a few posts ago, but I'll ask again anyway: Does anyone know what gun Anmderson had in the "flashsideways" scene where Anderson shoots the Destroy option?
#70
Опубликовано 14 Май 2012 - 05:39
nightcobra8928 wrote...
DJBare wrote...
Bought this across also, the obvious weapon switch from Carnifex to Predator
well the predator was the gun used by anderson and it was the gun he gave you at the intro.
TIM used the carnifex, so it might be gameplay coincidence or a bit of symbolism.
carnifex <-> TIM <-> side of shepard being indocrinated
predator <-> anderson <-> resisting side of shepard
I've never seen TIM using the carnifex...
#71
Опубликовано 14 Май 2012 - 05:39
MaximizedAction wrote...
Regarding shadows during Shep, Anderson, TIM dialogue:
(snip)
The pessimist in me sees just rushed coding...
Not really sure how the images would comfirm IT.
#72
Опубликовано 14 Май 2012 - 05:39
#73
Опубликовано 14 Май 2012 - 05:39
lex0r11 wrote...
I have no pictures because my photobucket account shattered it's traffic limits, but I will motivate again when it gets unlocked on the 20th! Just shout if I can be helpful in any other way..
I feel like I went off topic ALOT and motivated others to do so to, sorry..
Sooo Vent Boy is as creepy as ever with his feetless sightseeing ..
Only at that angle though he does have feet when you look at him from a different angle, but still creepy that he standing there doing the mister burns hands like he watching everything.......
#74
Опубликовано 14 Май 2012 - 05:40
So Shepard wakes up in London and now what....
If I pick Destroy, how do I destroy the Reapers in the real world?
If I pick Control, how do I control the Reapers in the real world?
If I pick Synthesis, do I then have to get up and shoot my squadmates and the allies to save the Reapers? Oh how nice of me to turn traitor at the last second.
Until this has an answer, your Indoctrination Theory falls apart at its core.
Сообщение изменено: The Invisible Commando, 14 Май 2012 - 05:41 .
#75
Опубликовано 14 Май 2012 - 05:40
estebanus wrote...
Rosewind wrote...
estebanus wrote...
byne wrote...
estebanus wrote...
DJBare wrote...
Really?, perhaps because certain folk could not stay on topic?estebanus wrote...
I... I don't understand... Why was it locked down?
Look... I'm truly sorry if it was purely me who did this...
Dont worry, it wasnt just you, lots of people went off topic lots of times.
Thanks, Byne... I feel kinda guilty right now...
Some one needs an on-topic hug *hug*
Thanks, Rosewind... *Hugs back*
Finally! An excuse to use this picture!




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