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[estebanus]

DJBare wrote...

Fingertrip wrote...


Probably planning something grandeur.

That's what I'm hoping, it never made sense to me that they would let their flagship game just fizzle out.

Indeed, and you don't need more than 3 months to make a few cutscenes...

[MaximizedAction]

StElmo wrote...

OK GUYS HE DEFINITELY SAYS CAN, NOT CAN'T

I USED THE MAGIC OF EDITING TO PROVE THIS. THE WAY HIS FACE MOVES AND THE SLOWED DOWN AUDIO PROVES IT HE IS UNDOUBTEDLY SAYING CAN.

odd that he would say it, but ): It's definitely not "can't"

youtu.be/vqKcg9I2utU

Oh man, you know you're speculating when you're disecting the interview with video editing software to make out what the interviewee really said.

I love it!

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 28 mai 2012 - 12:41 .

[Corik]

MaximizedAction wrote...

StElmo wrote...

OK GUYS HE DEFINITELY SAYS CAN, NOT CAN'T

I USED THE MAGIC OF EDITING TO PROVE THIS. THE WAY HIS FACE MOVES AND THE SLOWED DOWN AUDIO PROVES IT HE IS UNDOUBTEDLY SAYING CAN.

odd that he would say it, but ): It's definitely not "can't"

youtu.be/vqKcg9I2utU

Oh man, you know you're speculating when you're disecting the interview with video editing software to make out what the interviewee really said.

I love it!

xDDDDD And we haven't reached a consensus yet. It's veeeeeeeeery difficult. It could be can and it could be can't. If at least he had used "say" instead of "tell"... it would be easier.

[StElmo]

MaximizedAction wrote...

StElmo wrote...

OK GUYS HE DEFINITELY SAYS CAN, NOT CAN'T

I USED THE MAGIC OF EDITING TO PROVE THIS. THE WAY HIS FACE MOVES AND THE SLOWED DOWN AUDIO PROVES IT HE IS UNDOUBTEDLY SAYING CAN.

odd that he would say it, but ): It's definitely not "can't"

youtu.be/vqKcg9I2utU

Oh man, you know you're speculating when you're disecting the interview with video editing software to make out what the interviewee really said.

I love it!

Happy to do more if people find antything.

[StElmo]

Corik wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

StElmo wrote...

OK GUYS HE DEFINITELY SAYS CAN, NOT CAN'T

I USED THE MAGIC OF EDITING TO PROVE THIS. THE WAY HIS FACE MOVES AND THE SLOWED DOWN AUDIO PROVES IT HE IS UNDOUBTEDLY SAYING CAN.

odd that he would say it, but ): It's definitely not "can't"

youtu.be/vqKcg9I2utU

Oh man, you know you're speculating when you're disecting the interview with video editing software to make out what the interviewee really said.

I love it!

xDDDDD And we haven't reached a consensus yet. It's veeeeeeeeery difficult. It could be can and it could be can't. If at least he had used "say" instead of "tell"... it would be easier.

His eyebrows go up on the "ah" of can, which is a positive feedback reaction. He means CAN not CAN'T if it was can't, he would be less sure in his expression.

[Rosewind]

StElmo wrote...

OK GUYS HE DEFINITELY SAYS CAN, NOT CAN'T

I USED THE MAGIC OF EDITING TO PROVE THIS. THE WAY HIS FACE MOVES AND THE SLOWED DOWN AUDIO PROVES IT HE IS UNDOUBTEDLY SAYING CAN.

odd that he would say it, but ): It's definitely not "can't"

youtu.be/vqKcg9I2utU

And this is why people call us weirdos lol

[MaximizedAction]

StElmo wrote...

Corik wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

StElmo wrote...

OK GUYS HE DEFINITELY SAYS CAN, NOT CAN'T

I USED THE MAGIC OF EDITING TO PROVE THIS. THE WAY HIS FACE MOVES AND THE SLOWED DOWN AUDIO PROVES IT HE IS UNDOUBTEDLY SAYING CAN.

odd that he would say it, but ): It's definitely not "can't"

youtu.be/vqKcg9I2utU

Oh man, you know you're speculating when you're disecting the interview with video editing software to make out what the interviewee really said.

I love it!

xDDDDD And we haven't reached a consensus yet. It's veeeeeeeeery difficult. It could be can and it could be can't. If at least he had used "say" instead of "tell"... it would be easier.

His eyebrows go up on the "ah" of can, which is a positive feedback reaction. He means CAN not CAN'T if it was can't, he would be less sure in his expression.

Well, he suddenly decided to make sure that the interviewer knows about something that he didn't even ask about.

"...yeah, so ME1 was like this, ME2 was more like this and ME3 will be like that so DLC will fit in well. BTW, the ending will be on the disc, but in that context(?) the DLC will make a great sense(?) ...""
W...what?

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 28 mai 2012 - 12:53 .

[Corik]

StElmo wrote...

Corik wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

StElmo wrote...

OK GUYS HE DEFINITELY SAYS CAN, NOT CAN'T

I USED THE MAGIC OF EDITING TO PROVE THIS. THE WAY HIS FACE MOVES AND THE SLOWED DOWN AUDIO PROVES IT HE IS UNDOUBTEDLY SAYING CAN.

odd that he would say it, but ): It's definitely not "can't"

youtu.be/vqKcg9I2utU

Oh man, you know you're speculating when you're disecting the interview with video editing software to make out what the interviewee really said.

I love it!

xDDDDD And we haven't reached a consensus yet. It's veeeeeeeeery difficult. It could be can and it could be can't. If at least he had used "say" instead of "tell"... it would be easier.

His eyebrows go up on the "ah" of can, which is a positive feedback reaction. He means CAN not CAN'T if it was can't, he would be less sure in his expression.

I don't agree about the eyebrows thing. I've used that many times when I was denying something. Edit: In fact, I use that a lot when I'm denying something I'm not resposible of.

Modifié par Corik, 28 mai 2012 - 12:52 .

[StElmo]

Ok, I tweeted and asked him.

[Corik]

StElmo wrote...

Ok, I tweeted and asked him.

LOL 

Edit: Don't get me wrong. You're probably right about him saying "can". I just want to contribute to the debate 

Modifié par Corik, 28 mai 2012 - 12:55 .

[DJBare]

Prepare yourselves for a wild speculation, when completing the game you are loaded back to the time before the attack on chronos station, it's also Shepard's last dream, like I said prepare yourself for some wild speculation, what if Shepard did not wake from that dream, think about this for a moment because there is a possibly everybody might be happy with the outcome.

After making the choice on the citadel you run through the consequences of each, and yes, I'm saying all three have bad consequence, destroy kills geth and edi, control destroys Shepard mind, synthesis makes slaves, all three have crap consequences, but, and here's the wild speculation, as the consequences of the choices play out, Shepard wakes up startled in bed on board the Normandy just before the attack on chronos station, no one has won anything, but no one has lost anything either.

If we all get together as one group, we can agree that all three outcomes have consequences that are "generally" not acceptable, someone that likes synthesis will likely be appalled by the consequence of destroy, someone that likes destroy will likely be appalled at the idea of synthesis and consider control to be too risky, in the end the general consensus is that all outcomes have unacceptable consequences.

Sheesh, I rambled that somewhat, I hope you guys "get it".

[MaximizedAction]

DJBare wrote...

Prepare yourselves for a wild speculation, when completing the game you are loaded back to the time before the attack on chronos station, it's also Shepard's last dream, like I said prepare yourself for some wild speculation, what if Shepard did not wake from that dream, think about this for a moment because there is a possibly everybody might be happy with the outcome.

After making the choice on the citadel you run through the consequences of each, and yes, I'm saying all three have bad consequence, destroy kills geth and edi, control destroys Shepard mind, synthesis makes slaves, all three have crap consequences, but, and here's the wild speculation, as the consequences of the choices play out, Shepard wakes up startled in bed on board the Normandy just before the attack on chronos station, no one has won anything, but no one has lost anything either.

If we all get together as one group, we can agree that all three outcomes have consequences that are "generally" not acceptable, someone that likes synthesis will likely be appalled by the consequence of destroy, someone that likes destroy will likely be appalled at the idea of synthesis and consider control to be too risky, in the end the general consensus is that all outcomes have unacceptable consequences.

Sheesh, I rambled that somewhat, I hope you guys "get it".

I got you. Sounds ok, that's what we're here for, being open minded.

But wasn't the last dream after the love scene? I'm not sure but I remember Shep waking up from a nightmare while lying in bed with the LI.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 28 mai 2012 - 01:05 .

[Corik]

DJBare wrote...

Prepare yourselves for a wild speculation, when completing the game you are loaded back to the time before the attack on chronos station, it's also Shepard's last dream, like I said prepare yourself for some wild speculation, what if Shepard did not wake from that dream, think about this for a moment because there is a possibly everybody might be happy with the outcome.

After making the choice on the citadel you run through the consequences of each, and yes, I'm saying all three have bad consequence, destroy kills geth and edi, control destroys Shepard mind, synthesis makes slaves, all three have crap consequences, but, and here's the wild speculation, as the consequences of the choices play out, Shepard wakes up startled in bed on board the Normandy just before the attack on chronos station, no one has won anything, but no one has lost anything either.

If we all get together as one group, we can agree that all three outcomes have consequences that are "generally" not acceptable, someone that likes synthesis will likely be appalled by the consequence of destroy, someone that likes destroy will likely be appalled at the idea of synthesis and consider control to be too risky, in the end the general consensus is that all outcomes have unacceptable consequences.

Sheesh, I rambled that somewhat, I hope you guys "get it".

I don't know... I think in this case the hallucination/dream would be too big. I mean, the hallucination starting at Harbinger's attack is just a few cutscenes long. No action, no missions. I think it's more simple and I've always believed simple things are easy too be true.

[DJBare]

MaximizedAction wrote...

I got you. Sounds ok, that's what we're here for, being open minded.

But wasn't the last dream after the love scene?

Yes, but I don't believe the love scene will have any bearing on it, Shepard will wake startled again with company or alone, I'm thinking about those dreams you have where you "think" you have woken up only to really wake moments later.

Modifié par DJBare, 28 mai 2012 - 01:08 .

[StElmo]

Little stat for all you IT fans.

Seems like at least 50% of BSNers would be annoyed if the ending was proven to be LITERAL.

With only like 11% saying they would be affected negatively.

If anything this shows how detested literal interpretations of the ending is. I.T. or similar is most definitely preferred:

social.bioware.com/1968682/polls/33503/

Modifié par StElmo, 28 mai 2012 - 01:08 .

[MaximizedAction]

DJBare wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

I got you. Sounds ok, that's what we're here for, being open minded.

But wasn't the last dream after the love scene?

Yes, but I don't believe the love scene will have any bearing on it, Shepard will wake started again with company or alone, I'm thinking about those dreams you have where you "think" you have woken up only to really wake moments later.

Yeah I know what you mean. But aren't these kinds of fake wake ups a bit overused, in that something like that wouldn't seem to impressive to the player?

In that sense, I find the theory of everything being a mixture between realitty and hallucination, with it becoming worse and worse at the end -- aka waking dream -- more unusual for the audience.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 28 mai 2012 - 01:12 .

[Vox Draco]

@Sean Connery :-)

I generally like the idea, especially with all these threads battling over the "right" choice, that all choices are wrong. I am in support for destroy, no matter if literal or ITm but I would love to see us all fooled.

But having the entire Retake-Earth-Mission also a hallucnation? Might be a little...too far fetched.

[MegumiAzusa]

StElmo wrote...

Little stat for all you IT fans.

Seems like at least 50% of BSNers would be annoyed if the ending was proven to be LITERAL.

With only like 11% saying they would be affected negatively.

If anything this shows how detested literal interpretations of the ending is. I.T. or similar is most definitely preferred:

social.bioware.com/1968682/polls/33503/

"Can't Say - I have no facts to base my reaction on, I'm open to anything"
If executed well I have no problem with the ending being literal. I don't think the poll isn't that good anyway because you can say "IT has to be true, everything else is trash" and you can say "the ending is trash in any case" so even the ones who don't see indoctrination as a possibility can vote for negative.
If executed well I take whatever they give.

[DJBare]

MaximizedAction wrote...

DJBare wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

I got you. Sounds ok, that's what we're here for, being open minded.

But wasn't the last dream after the love scene?

Yes, but I don't believe the love scene will have any bearing on it, Shepard will wake started again with company or alone, I'm thinking about those dreams you have where you "think" you have woken up only to really wake moments later.

Yeah I know what you mean. But aren't these kinds of fake wake ups a bit overused, in that something like that wouldn't seem to impressive to the player?

In that sense, I find the theory of everything being a mixture between realitty and hallucination, with it becoming worse and worse at the end -- aka waking dream -- more unusual for the audience.

As I said, it is wild speculation, but the game does load you conveniently back at the point just before the last dream and the attack on chronos station, perhaps I am going overboard, but I still think the EC is going to start there in some form.

[MegumiAzusa]

Vox Draco wrote...

@Sean Connery :-)

I generally like the idea, especially with all these threads battling over the "right" choice, that all choices are wrong. I am in support for destroy, no matter if literal or ITm but I would love to see us all fooled.

But having the entire Retake-Earth-Mission also a hallucnation? Might be a little...too far fetched.

Why? Parts of it have dreamlike features in it like weapon bob that doesn't exist in any other part of the game.

[DJBare]

Vox Draco wrote...

@Sean Connery :-)

I generally like the idea, especially with all these threads battling over the "right" choice, that all choices are wrong. I am in support for destroy, no matter if literal or ITm but I would love to see us all fooled.

But having the entire Retake-Earth-Mission also a hallucnation? Might be a little...too far fetched.

Yeah, like I said, wild speculation, but I have had dreams(thankfully rare) where I've been struggling against the odds fighting a losing battle all the way, then I wake to find the battle still going on, it takes a moment for my conscious mind to kick in and say, yo wake up!

[Corik]

Maybe there's an easier way to fix that "choices" problem. A crewmember could be used to wake up Shepard and free him from the hallucination before anything happens to him by choosing Control, Synthesis or Destroy.

But I think that's highly improblable. The problem is that the only choice which allows Shepard to "breathe" is Destroy. And we must remember that. I don't think Bioware put it that way for nothing.

[McGrzegorz]

Is it Summer yet?
Replaying ME3 again, looking for clues

- It's probably reused assets but during London mission you can see pictures on the wall. The same pictures can be seen during Eden Prime mission (Javik)
- I really don't like that robot can look like organic (Dr Eva Core)... If Cerberus can build machines like that... how do I know that for example Hackett is real organic?

- and something IT unrelated.
I think "Bridge Burners" (Team Zeta are combat engineers who specialize in destroying enemy fortifications in hostile territory - 103rd Marine Division.) are reference to the Bridge Burners form "Malazan Book of the Fallen" series. (Great epic fantasy series written by Canadian Steven Erikson which I reaaaaaly like ).

[MaximizedAction]

DJBare wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

DJBare wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

I got you. Sounds ok, that's what we're here for, being open minded.

But wasn't the last dream after the love scene?

Yes, but I don't believe the love scene will have any bearing on it, Shepard will wake started again with company or alone, I'm thinking about those dreams you have where you "think" you have woken up only to really wake moments later.

Yeah I know what you mean. But aren't these kinds of fake wake ups a bit overused, in that something like that wouldn't seem to impressive to the player?

In that sense, I find the theory of everything being a mixture between realitty and hallucination, with it becoming worse and worse at the end -- aka waking dream -- more unusual for the audience.

As I said, it is wild speculation, but the game does load you conveniently back at the point just before the last dream and the attack on chronos station, perhaps I am going overboard, but I still think the EC is going to start there in some form.

No, you're not going too far. I think I see what you mean:
One might wonder why the last dream is placed within the two last missions, where you already crossed the point of no return when you decide to invade Cronos station.
So thematically the last dream must have some connection to the 'final' missions. Also, the dreams are not mentioned in the last missions anymore.

So your ideas are not that far fetched.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 28 mai 2012 - 01:24 .

[MegumiAzusa]

DJBare wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

DJBare wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

I got you. Sounds ok, that's what we're here for, being open minded.

But wasn't the last dream after the love scene?

Yes, but I don't believe the love scene will have any bearing on it, Shepard will wake started again with company or alone, I'm thinking about those dreams you have where you "think" you have woken up only to really wake moments later.

Yeah I know what you mean. But aren't these kinds of fake wake ups a bit overused, in that something like that wouldn't seem to impressive to the player?

In that sense, I find the theory of everything being a mixture between realitty and hallucination, with it becoming worse and worse at the end -- aka waking dream -- more unusual for the audience.

As I said, it is wild speculation, but the game does load you conveniently back at the point just before the last dream and the attack on chronos station, perhaps I am going overboard, but I still think the EC is going to start there in some form.

You can also see it as just customer service, having Reapers around after destroying them doesn't make any sense, so the game has to end like in ME1. Now in ME1 fans complained in order to get a savegame with DLC you have to replay the whole game, to prevent that they just set you back just prior to start the last mission.