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D.Sharrah

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paxxton wrote...

So have we reached any conclusion on what Jesse Houston said?


What's this about?  I really do need the notes to catch up...

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paxxton

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UrgedDuke wrote...

what did she say

HE said "I can tell" or "I can't tell". There was indecision among us here.

Modifié par paxxton, 28 mai 2012 - 05:08 .


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D.Sharrah

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paxxton wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

what did she say

HE said "I can tell" or "I can't tell". There was indecision among us here.


Is this a recent interview...old...have a link?

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Still discussing that? That is such a big nothing.

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Those starbrat(nice name BTW) pictures are interesting, Why have him just standing watching in the open?

I could understand watching in horror etc but in the open in a fragile edge? Also there is something off about that stare, it's not uncanny valley but something isn't right. It's also more than just a default face as there I definitely expression there

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Ignoring the facial expression for a moment, it's the fact that they took the time to put him in a pose look how he is standing why would they do that if was just a place holder for when the animation was to start of him running into the building.


You're not going to like my answer, Rosewind. (laughs)

From a distance, it looks like BioWare went for the "nervous child" pose, where they retract their hands towards their body in fear.  You can argue that it might be a visible cue that BioWare offers to digital sleuthers.  But that's what I see with a clear, practical eye interpreting the data on a story level. 

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D.Sharrah wrote...

paxxton wrote...

So have we reached any conclusion on what Jesse Houston said?


What's this about?  I really do need the notes to catch up...

There was an interview with him at Comic Con 2011. The background noises made it hard to hear what he exactly said. I think he said "I can't tell you that the end of the game will be on the disc."

http://www.youtube.c...g5xltLkk#t=291s

Modifié par paxxton, 28 mai 2012 - 04:57 .


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paxxton wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

what did she say

HE said "I can tell" or "I can't tell". There was indecision among us here.


Damn you why did you have to quote me before I fixed it

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dreamgazer wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Ignoring the facial expression for a moment, it's the fact that they took the time to put him in a pose look how he is standing why would they do that if was just a place holder for when the animation was to start of him running into the building.


You're not going to like my answer, Rosewind. (laughs)

From a distance, it looks like BioWare went for the "nervous child" pose, where they retract their hands towards their body in fear.  You can argue that it might be a visible cue that BioWare offers to digital sleuthers.  But that's what I see with a clear, practical eye interpreting the data on a story level. 


When I first saw him I thought he had his hands up on the glass and I do agree with you on the type of pose, it's just the fact that they went to the trouble of doing it when you only see him there for barely a second if you are even looking. Hell I didn't even notice him till my third play through.

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UrgedDuke wrote...

paxxton wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

what did she say

HE said "I can tell" or "I can't tell". There was indecision among us here.


Damn you why did you have to quote me before I fixed it

Sorry. I'm too fast. Posted Image Should I fix it for you?

Modifié par paxxton, 28 mai 2012 - 04:58 .


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UrgedDuke

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paxxton wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

paxxton wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

what did she say

HE said "I can tell" or "I can't tell". There was indecision among us here.


Damn you why did you have to quote me before I fixed it

Sorry. I'm too fast. Posted Image Should I fix it for you?


can't someone ask him on twitter or something what he actually said

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paxxton wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

paxxton wrote...

So have we reached any conclusion on what Jesse Houston said?


What's this about?  I really do need the notes to catch up...

There was an interview with him at Comic Con 2011. The background noises made it hard to hear what he exactly said. I think he said "I can't tell you that the end of the game will be on the disc."

http://www.youtube.c...g5xltLkk#t=291s


Whether he said "can" or "can't" he's still talking about the "ending being on the disc" before the game is even done, before it's even relevant. It's highly suspicious either way.

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paxxton wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

what did she say

HE said "I can tell" or "I can't tell". There was indecision among us here.


When you listen to the context and listen carefully, because that video is crap, he says I can tell you.

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UrgedDuke wrote...

paxxton wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

paxxton wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

what did she say

HE said "I can tell" or "I can't tell". There was indecision among us here.


Damn you why did you have to quote me before I fixed it

Sorry. I'm too fast. Posted Image Should I fix it for you?


can't someone ask him on twitter or something what he actually said



No

*Giggle*

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paxxton

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UrgedDuke wrote...

paxxton wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

paxxton wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

what did she say

HE said "I can tell" or "I can't tell". There was indecision among us here.


Damn you why did you have to quote me before I fixed it

Sorry. I'm too fast. Posted Image Should I fix it for you?


can't someone ask him on twitter or something what he actually said


That might settle the argument.

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paxxton

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EpyonX3 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

what did she say

HE said "I can tell" or "I can't tell". There was indecision among us here.


When you listen to the context and listen carefully, because that video is crap, he says I can tell you.

I'm not so sure. In that case he uses "but" with 2 positive sentences. Is this how you usually speak?

EDIT: I don't know. Maybe.

Modifié par paxxton, 28 mai 2012 - 05:06 .


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Sigh ..... thought we got over that topic even though I kinda started it L(

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well look at it this way, why would you tell someone that the ending is on the disc, (that should be a given) you would only tell them that the ending isn't on the disc because of the unusual situation. so i may be leaning toward "can't" instead of"can"

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UrgedDuke wrote...

well look at it this way, why would you tell someone that the ending is on the disc, (that should be a given) you would only tell them that the ending isn't on the disc because of the unusual situation. so i may be leaning toward "can't" instead of"can"


That's the way I see it.

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UrgedDuke

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i put headphones on to listen to it again and it sounds like can tho

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balance5050 wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

well look at it this way, why would you tell someone that the ending is on the disc, (that should be a given) you would only tell them that the ending isn't on the disc because of the unusual situation. so i may be leaning toward "can't" instead of"can"


That's the way I see it.


I also think so.

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UrgedDuke wrote...

i put headphones on to listen to it again and it sounds like can tho

It's because there is t after n. But you can hear a very short 't.

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Eh, I don't think we will ever decide on what he said anless he tells us him self.

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Rosewind wrote...

Eh, I don't think we will ever decide on what he said anless he tells us him self.

He could post in here and clarify that.

Modifié par paxxton, 28 mai 2012 - 05:19 .


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 I'm new to the thread, but I wanted to add my two cents, in the form of an 8k word essay, way too long to post here. You can find it at the link below. Keep up the good work!icameherejusttosaythis.com/2012/05/06/indoctrination-and-its-discontents-part-one-revised/2012/05/06/indoctrination-and-its-discontents-part-one-revised/