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[Stigweird85]

[quote]balance5050 wrote...


http://www.youtube.c...g5xltLkk#t=291s[/quote]

Whether he said "can" or "can't" he's still talking about the "ending being on the disc" before the game is even done, before it's even relevant. It's highly suspicious either way.

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It must be can. There is no logical reason why someone would say I can't tell you the ending is on the disk 6months before release. It would be unprecedented and at the time would have been a PR nightmare. 

I can just see the headlines now, Bioware dev "can't say endings on disk"  Which would lead to a fan backlash - they have sold an incomplete game, typical cash grab from EA making you pay more for what you have already purchased. 

But that would never happen, :Dhe said can....

[UrgedDuke]

I had a quick question: how do you guys set the video time that it starts at in your links to youtube

[balance5050]

UrgedDuke wrote...

I had a quick question: how do you guys set the video time that it starts at in your links to youtube

Right click on the time line and select "copy video url at current time"

[dreamgazer]

UrgedDuke wrote...

I had a quick question: how do you guys set the video time that it starts at in your links to youtube

When you click on the "Share" button, you'll see the field with the link and an "Options" text underneath. Click it, and you'll be able to select the start time.  Set the time, then copy the link to post on the forum.

[MegumiAzusa]

Rosewind wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Ignoring the facial expression for a moment, it's the fact that they took the time to put him in a pose look how he is standing why would they do that if was just a place holder for when the animation was to start of him running into the building.

You're not going to like my answer, Rosewind. (laughs)

From a distance, it looks like BioWare went for the "nervous child" pose, where they retract their hands towards their body in fear.  You can argue that it might be a visible cue that BioWare offers to digital sleuthers.  But that's what I see with a clear, practical eye interpreting the data on a story level.

When I first saw him I thought he had his hands up on the glass and I do agree with you on the type of pose, it's just the fact that they went to the trouble of doing it when you only see him there for barely a second if you are even looking. Hell I didn't even notice him till my third play through.

You know he is looking right at the Reaper in the background?

[paxxton]

balance5050 wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

I had a quick question: how do you guys set the video time that it starts at in your links to youtube

Right click on the time line and select "copy video url at current time"

You need to add the following string at the end of the url &t= and then number of seconds followed by s.

Modifié par paxxton, 28 mai 2012 - 05:28 .

[D.Sharrah]

Anyone have any idea who the interviewer was? Maybe we could ask them. But it is really hard to distinguish what he says w/all the backround noise.

[balance5050]

bigstig wrote...

It must be can. There is no logical reason why someone would say I can't tell you the ending is on the disk 6months before release. It would be unprecedented and at the time would have been a PR nightmare. 

I can just see the headlines now, Bioware dev "can't say endings on disk"  Which would lead to a fan backlash - they have sold an incomplete game, typical cash grab from EA making you pay more for what you have already purchased. 

But that would never happen, :Dhe said can....

I once heard that you don't really mean anything you say before the word "but".

"I can tell you that the end of the story will be on the disc... "But" within that context, given the terms there's a bit of a different.. the way that we're structuring the story is pretty different.. So it will make a good sense why the dlc plugs in to where it does." 

Modifié par balance5050, 28 mai 2012 - 05:29 .

[UrgedDuke]

balance5050 wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

I had a quick question: how do you guys set the video time that it starts at in your links to youtube

Right click on the time line and select "copy video url at current time"

thx for helping the noob

[MegumiAzusa]

dreamgazer wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

I had a quick question: how do you guys set the video time that it starts at in your links to youtube

When you click on the "Share" button, you'll see the field with the link and an "Options" text underneath. Click it, and you'll be able to select the start time.  Set the time, then copy the link to post on the forum.

Or you can play the video and then right click and the second option is:
"Copy video URL at current time"
or you can just add a "#t=xs" where x is the time in seconds, for example to be 30 sec into a video you add "#t=30s"

[tyrvas]

My son says this theory is a no no...

...reason...

Mass Effect - ILLOS - Vigil - says Shepard and Co. are not indoctrinated like the others that passed (Vigil talking about Saren and Geth).

Mass Effect 3 - THESSIA - Prothean VI - Is activated by Shepard.
No problem until Kai Leng shows up and Prothean VI says indoctrinated forces have arrived, activating security protocol & shuts down.

Mass Effect 3 - CRONOS STATION - Prothean VI - says to Shepard & Co. You have rescued me from indoctrinated forces.

[balance5050]

tyrvas wrote...

My son says this theory is a no no...

...reason...

Mass Effect - ILLOS - Vigil - says Shepard and Co. are not indoctrinated like the others that passed (Vigil talking about Saren and Geth).

Mass Effect 3 - THESSIA - Prothean VI - Is activated by Shepard.
No problem until Kai Leng shows up and Prothean VI says indoctrinated forces have arrived, activating security protocol & shuts down.

Mass Effect 3 - CRONOS STATION - Prothean VI - says to Shepard & Co. You have rescued me from indoctrinated forces.

Your son is misunderstanding the theory, Shepard is never actually indoctrinated during any of the times you listed. He only becomes indoctrinated when he loses the will to destroy the reapers, like at the end if you don't choose destroy.

Modifié par balance5050, 28 mai 2012 - 05:32 .

[byne]

tyrvas wrote...

My son says this theory is a no no...

...reason...

Mass Effect - ILLOS - Vigil - says Shepard and Co. are not indoctrinated like the others that passed (Vigil talking about Saren and Geth).

Mass Effect 3 - THESSIA - Prothean VI - Is activated by Shepard.
No problem until Kai Leng shows up and Prothean VI says indoctrinated forces have arrived, activating security protocol & shuts down.

Mass Effect 3 - CRONOS STATION - Prothean VI - says to Shepard & Co. You have rescued me from indoctrinated forces.

Because we all know that the prothean indoctrination detection was foolproof, and that they were never betrayed from within by indoctrinated agen- ohwaitaminute

Plus, I really doubt anyone is arguing that Shepard was indoctrinated in ME1.

[Rosewind]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Ignoring the facial expression for a moment, it's the fact that they took the time to put him in a pose look how he is standing why would they do that if was just a place holder for when the animation was to start of him running into the building.

You're not going to like my answer, Rosewind. (laughs)

From a distance, it looks like BioWare went for the "nervous child" pose, where they retract their hands towards their body in fear.  You can argue that it might be a visible cue that BioWare offers to digital sleuthers.  But that's what I see with a clear, practical eye interpreting the data on a story level.

When I first saw him I thought he had his hands up on the glass and I do agree with you on the type of pose, it's just the fact that they went to the trouble of doing it when you only see him there for barely a second if you are even looking. Hell I didn't even notice him till my third play through.

You know he is looking right at the Reaper in the background?

Quite possibly, but then again like the other person said they may not have bothered with the facial expression.

[MegumiAzusa]

tyrvas wrote...

My son says this theory is a no no...

...reason...

Mass Effect - ILLOS - Vigil - says Shepard and Co. are not indoctrinated like the others that passed (Vigil talking about Saren and Geth).

Mass Effect 3 - THESSIA - Prothean VI - Is activated by Shepard.
No problem until Kai Leng shows up and Prothean VI says indoctrinated forces have arrived, activating security protocol & shuts down.

Mass Effect 3 - CRONOS STATION - Prothean VI - says to Shepard & Co. You have rescued me from indoctrinated forces.

Your son is wrong, there is more than enough evidence to say Shepard is indoctrinated in ME2 and ME3. Also there is evidence pointing towards the Prothean VI is planted by the Reapers as there are Reaper sounds when Shepard suddenly get the ability to sense Prothean technology.

[MegumiAzusa]

Rosewind wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Ignoring the facial expression for a moment, it's the fact that they took the time to put him in a pose look how he is standing why would they do that if was just a place holder for when the animation was to start of him running into the building.

You're not going to like my answer, Rosewind. (laughs)

From a distance, it looks like BioWare went for the "nervous child" pose, where they retract their hands towards their body in fear.  You can argue that it might be a visible cue that BioWare offers to digital sleuthers.  But that's what I see with a clear, practical eye interpreting the data on a story level.

When I first saw him I thought he had his hands up on the glass and I do agree with you on the type of pose, it's just the fact that they went to the trouble of doing it when you only see him there for barely a second if you are even looking. Hell I didn't even notice him till my third play through.

You know he is looking right at the Reaper in the background?

Quite possibly, but then again like the other person said they may not have bothered with the facial expression.

Doesn't change the fact that he is facing the Reaper.

[dreamgazer]

balance5050 wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

I had a quick question: how do you guys set the video time that it starts at in your links to youtube

Right click on the time line and select "copy video url at current time"

MegumiAzusa wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

I had a quick question: how do you guys set the video time that it starts at in your links to youtube

When you click on the "Share" button, you'll see the field with the link and an "Options" text underneath. Click it, and you'll be able to select the start time.  Set the time, then copy the link to post on the forum.

Or you can play the video and then right click and the second option is:
"Copy video URL at current time"
or you can just add a "#t=xs" where x is the time in seconds, for example to be 30 sec into a video you add "#t=30s"

 

[byne]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

tyrvas wrote...

My son says this theory is a no no...

...reason...

Mass Effect - ILLOS - Vigil - says Shepard and Co. are not indoctrinated like the others that passed (Vigil talking about Saren and Geth).

Mass Effect 3 - THESSIA - Prothean VI - Is activated by Shepard.
No problem until Kai Leng shows up and Prothean VI says indoctrinated forces have arrived, activating security protocol & shuts down.

Mass Effect 3 - CRONOS STATION - Prothean VI - says to Shepard & Co. You have rescued me from indoctrinated forces.

Your son is wrong, there is more than enough evidence to say Shepard is indoctrinated in ME2 and ME3. Also there is evidence pointing towards the Prothean VI is planted by the Reapers as there are Reaper sounds when Shepard suddenly get the ability to sense Prothean technology.

People also conveniently overlook the fact that the VI was ready to help you on Thessia until Kai Leng appeared, but when you talk to it on Cronos Station it says 'Security protocols overwritten. I will comply.'

Theres literally no reason for him to say that if his security protocols werent telling him not to give Shepard the information for some reason.

[Stigweird85]

@balance5050

I want it to be can't, I thought it was can't originally, however it maks no sense to even hint at a non ending on the disk 6months prior to release. At this stage they were still discussing and recording TIM dialogue, if this was essentially a confession that they were working on DLC before the game was even complete. It would bethe Javik contraversy all over again

[byne]

dreamgazer wrote...

Now all I can think of is that fake PSA from Scrubs.

[Rosewind]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Ignoring the facial expression for a moment, it's the fact that they took the time to put him in a pose look how he is standing why would they do that if was just a place holder for when the animation was to start of him running into the building.

You're not going to like my answer, Rosewind. (laughs)

From a distance, it looks like BioWare went for the "nervous child" pose, where they retract their hands towards their body in fear.  You can argue that it might be a visible cue that BioWare offers to digital sleuthers.  But that's what I see with a clear, practical eye interpreting the data on a story level.

When I first saw him I thought he had his hands up on the glass and I do agree with you on the type of pose, it's just the fact that they went to the trouble of doing it when you only see him there for barely a second if you are even looking. Hell I didn't even notice him till my third play through.

You know he is looking right at the Reaper in the background?

Quite possibly, but then again like the other person said they may not have bothered with the facial expression.

Doesn't change the fact that he is facing the Reaper.

Lol mind you kinda hard not to face them

[paxxton]

D.Sharrah wrote...

Anyone have any idea who the interviewer was? Maybe we could ask them. But it is really hard to distinguish what he says w/all the backround noise.

I found this article but I'm not sure if its author is the interviewer.
http://www.gamefront...on-girl-action/

[estebanus]

NotforProfit wrote...

 I'm new to the thread, but I wanted to add my two cents, in the form of an 8k word essay, way too long to post here. You can find it at the link below. Keep up the good work!icameherejusttosaythis.com/2012/05/06/indoctrination-and-its-discontents-part-one-revised/2012/05/06/indoctrination-and-its-discontents-part-one-revised/

o-O

Welcome to the club, I guess.

[UrgedDuke]

I just wanted to digress for a moment and point out something that I noticed recently:
During the conversation with spacebieber he acknowledges the term "Reapers" which I found odd because the name "Reapers" was given to them by organics. Both Harby and Sovereign did not acknowledge the term "Reapers" because it is obviously not what they are actually called Reapers. It just seems odd that the stupid starbrat would acknowledge a name given to them by primitives. what do you guys think

[dreamgazer]

UrgedDuke wrote...

I just wanted to digress for a moment and point out something that I noticed recently:
During the conversation with spacebieber he acknowledges the term "Reapers" which I found odd because the name "Reapers" was given to them by organics. Both Harby and Sovereign did not acknowledge the term "Reapers" because it is obviously not what they are actually called Reapers. It just seems odd that the stupid starbrat would acknowledge a name given to them by primitives. what do you guys think

Indeed, odd.  

I'd argue that the catalyst talking on Shepard's familiar terms is a way of manipulating the tone of the conversation to his devices, but an equal (and pretty strong) argument could be made to the opposite: that using common terminology is a way of making the conversation appear ... "benign", and on a comprehendable level with the organic in front of him/it.