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#8426
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they basically took the gameplay mechanics from Gears of War 3, the ending "decisions" from Dues Ex Human Revolution, and the general theme of the multiplayer from Halo Reach "firefight". Now don't get me wrong here, I love the Mass Effect franchise, I want more games, new adventures, stories and characters to interact with...

I'm sure that has been mentioned before, BUT until the fans have their satisfaction we cannot allow people to forget...

and in any command structure, the leader is generally held responsible for those under his or her command,...(hint hint)

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Sero303 wrote...

they basically took the gameplay mechanics from Gears of War 3, the ending "decisions" from Dues Ex Human Revolution, and the general theme of the multiplayer from Halo Reach "firefight". Now don't get me wrong here, I love the Mass Effect franchise, I want more games, new adventures, stories and characters to interact with...

I'm sure that has been mentioned before, BUT until the fans have their satisfaction we cannot allow people to forget...

and in any command structure, the leader is generally held responsible for those under his or her command,...(hint hint)


Are you saying that we should court martial Casey Hudson?:P

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BleedingUranium wrote...

blooregard wrote...

Destructorlio wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Wish I could put that much effort into Mass Effect again like I did with Diablo.
Playtime has ~100 hours after two weeks.

:unsure:
*shame*


Oh, Diablo. clickclickclickclickclick.

TJBartlemus wrote...

Has anyone noticed that there are only two times that you walk slowly in Mass Effect 3? During the dream sequence and at the end after getting hit by the laser? Also whats up with the infinite ammo? The only time you need to fire really is before going up to the Citadel and if you choose destroy.

 

Welcome to IT, my friend. Yes, these are all clues that the ending is not real. Check out this blog for more:

http://masseffectind...logspot.com.au/ 





We have a blog too?


LOL it's Parabolee's


I've never noticed the tree reflection on the crucible before. 

Now I know it's true! :wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard:

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dmay7 wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

blooregard wrote...

Destructorlio wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Wish I could put that much effort into Mass Effect again like I did with Diablo.
Playtime has ~100 hours after two weeks.

:unsure:
*shame*


Oh, Diablo. clickclickclickclickclick.

TJBartlemus wrote...

Has anyone noticed that there are only two times that you walk slowly in Mass Effect 3? During the dream sequence and at the end after getting hit by the laser? Also whats up with the infinite ammo? The only time you need to fire really is before going up to the Citadel and if you choose destroy.

 

Welcome to IT, my friend. Yes, these are all clues that the ending is not real. Check out this blog for more:

http://masseffectind...logspot.com.au/ 





We have a blog too?


LOL it's Parabolee's


I've never noticed the tree reflection on the crucible before. 

Now I know it's true! :wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard:


Neither did I, until it was pointed out here Posted Image

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 29 mai 2012 - 02:15 .


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So I just finished the Grissom Academy mission, talked with Vega and got the lovely "hum" comment.
It's interesting that is the last comment in the sequence (usually you get 2-3 different comments and the last one is repeated indefinitely till next mission/event).

But more interesting is that this also the time when Javik is "exploring" the ship. AFAIK that's the only one time that you can meet him NOT in his room but in old Jack's "quarters.

I never paid attention to that but... maybe his "exploring" is somehow connected with the hum that Vega starts to hear.
Anyway something to think about...

EDIT: Spelling

Modifié par McGrzegorz, 29 mai 2012 - 02:32 .


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BleedingUranium

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McGrzegorz wrote...

So I just finished the Grissom Academy mission, talked with Vega and got the lovely "hum" comment.
It's interesting that is the last comment in the sequence (usually you get 2-3 different comments and the last one is repeated indefinitely till next mission/event).

But more interesting is that this also the time when Javik is "exploring" the ship. AFAIK that is the only one time that you can meet him NOT in his room but in old Jack's "quarters.

I never paid attention to that but...


Javik goes into Jack's room? I didn't think I missed anything Posted Image

#8432
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BleedingUranium wrote...

McGrzegorz wrote...

So I just finished the Grissom Academy mission, talked with Vega and got the lovely "hum" comment.
It's interesting that is the last comment in the sequence (usually you get 2-3 different comments and the last one is repeated indefinitely till next mission/event).

But more interesting is that this also the time when Javik is "exploring" the ship. AFAIK that is the only one time that you can meet him NOT in his room but in old Jack's "quarters.

I never paid attention to that but...


Javik goes into Jack's room? I didn't think I missed anything Posted Image


Heh, now I revisit every Normady's room after each mission...

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Big Bad wrote...

Sero303 wrote...

they basically took the gameplay mechanics from Gears of War 3, the ending "decisions" from Dues Ex Human Revolution, and the general theme of the multiplayer from Halo Reach "firefight". Now don't get me wrong here, I love the Mass Effect franchise, I want more games, new adventures, stories and characters to interact with...

I'm sure that has been mentioned before, BUT until the fans have their satisfaction we cannot allow people to forget...

and in any command structure, the leader is generally held responsible for those under his or her command,...(hint hint)


Are you saying that we should court martial Casey Hudson?:P


No,...but there is something to be said about a firing squad ... ( note I am not suggesting nor thereby coercing any person(s) to commit any illegal acts, criminal violations, or acts of extreme violence against any person(s) who may, or may not be responsible for possibly the worst insult to a franchise's fanbase and therefore cannot be held liable for any actions taken against said person, who would so justly deserve it, and much more ) [ they created hell for a reason ]

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McGrzegorz wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

McGrzegorz wrote...

So I just finished the Grissom Academy mission, talked with Vega and got the lovely "hum" comment.
It's interesting that is the last comment in the sequence (usually you get 2-3 different comments and the last one is repeated indefinitely till next mission/event).

But more interesting is that this also the time when Javik is "exploring" the ship. AFAIK that is the only one time that you can meet him NOT in his room but in old Jack's "quarters.

I never paid attention to that but...


Javik goes into Jack's room? I didn't think I missed anything Posted Image


Heh, now I revisit every Normady's room after each mission...


Wait, do N7 missions count?

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BleedingUranium wrote...

McGrzegorz wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

McGrzegorz wrote...

So I just finished the Grissom Academy mission, talked with Vega and got the lovely "hum" comment.
It's interesting that is the last comment in the sequence (usually you get 2-3 different comments and the last one is repeated indefinitely till next mission/event).

But more interesting is that this also the time when Javik is "exploring" the ship. AFAIK that is the only one time that you can meet him NOT in his room but in old Jack's "quarters.

I never paid attention to that but...


Javik goes into Jack's room? I didn't think I missed anything Posted Image


Heh, now I revisit every Normady's room after each mission...


Wait, do N7 missions count?


I cover my ass and do them after them too. Ya never know. Hell, I even enjoy the little 15 second banter thay may give you.

#8436
McGrzegorz

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dmay7 wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

McGrzegorz wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

McGrzegorz wrote...

So I just finished the Grissom Academy mission, talked with Vega and got the lovely "hum" comment.
It's interesting that is the last comment in the sequence (usually you get 2-3 different comments and the last one is repeated indefinitely till next mission/event).

But more interesting is that this also the time when Javik is "exploring" the ship. AFAIK that is the only one time that you can meet him NOT in his room but in old Jack's "quarters.

I never paid attention to that but...


Javik goes into Jack's room? I didn't think I missed anything Posted Image


Heh, now I revisit every Normady's room after each mission...


Wait, do N7 missions count?


I cover my ass and do them after them too. Ya never know. Hell, I even enjoy the little 15 second banter thay may give you.


Yeap same here :-p

#8437
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dmay7 wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

McGrzegorz wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

McGrzegorz wrote...

So I just finished the Grissom Academy mission, talked with Vega and got the lovely "hum" comment.
It's interesting that is the last comment in the sequence (usually you get 2-3 different comments and the last one is repeated indefinitely till next mission/event).

But more interesting is that this also the time when Javik is "exploring" the ship. AFAIK that is the only one time that you can meet him NOT in his room but in old Jack's "quarters.

I never paid attention to that but...


Javik goes into Jack's room? I didn't think I missed anything Posted Image


Heh, now I revisit every Normady's room after each mission...


Wait, do N7 missions count?


I cover my ass and do them after them too. Ya never know. Hell, I even enjoy the little 15 second banter thay may give you.


I like the banter, I guess I just missed after the N7 missions. Oh well, and excuse for another playthrough, and the one War Asset I missed, for supporting Tali over Xen Posted Image

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 29 mai 2012 - 02:50 .


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McGrzegorz wrote...

dmay7 wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

McGrzegorz wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

McGrzegorz wrote...

So I just finished the Grissom Academy mission, talked with Vega and got the lovely "hum" comment.
It's interesting that is the last comment in the sequence (usually you get 2-3 different comments and the last one is repeated indefinitely till next mission/event).

But more interesting is that this also the time when Javik is "exploring" the ship. AFAIK that is the only one time that you can meet him NOT in his room but in old Jack's "quarters.

I never paid attention to that but...


Javik goes into Jack's room? I didn't think I missed anything Posted Image


Heh, now I revisit every Normady's room after each mission...


Wait, do N7 missions count?


I cover my ass and do them after them too. Ya never know. Hell, I even enjoy the little 15 second banter thay may give you.


Yeap same here :-p

One of the many things I enjoyed from ME3 was listening in to some of the conversations your squad was having with each other in between missions (Ashley and Tali wanting to talk to Liara after Thessia, Liara asking if Garrus was ok sleeping in the Battery, Liara and Wrex bantering, Liara and Javik bantering (a lot of Liara ones lol), Garrus and Joker going over their favorite jokes, etc). It really added a sense of realism that your guy is not the only person anyone can talk to.

#8439
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dmay7 wrote...

McGrzegorz wrote...

dmay7 wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

McGrzegorz wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

McGrzegorz wrote...

So I just finished the Grissom Academy mission, talked with Vega and got the lovely "hum" comment.
It's interesting that is the last comment in the sequence (usually you get 2-3 different comments and the last one is repeated indefinitely till next mission/event).

But more interesting is that this also the time when Javik is "exploring" the ship. AFAIK that is the only one time that you can meet him NOT in his room but in old Jack's "quarters.

I never paid attention to that but...


Javik goes into Jack's room? I didn't think I missed anything Posted Image


Heh, now I revisit every Normady's room after each mission...


Wait, do N7 missions count?


I cover my ass and do them after them too. Ya never know. Hell, I even enjoy the little 15 second banter thay may give you.


Yeap same here :-p

One of the many things I enjoyed from ME3 was listening in to some of the conversations your squad was having with each other in between missions (Ashley and Tali wanting to talk to Liara after Thessia, Liara asking if Garrus was ok sleeping in the Battery, Liara and Wrex bantering, Liara and Javik bantering (a lot of Liara ones lol), Garrus and Joker going over their favorite jokes, etc). It really added a sense of realism that your guy is not the only person anyone can talk to.


Same, those were cool Posted Image

Wrex bugging Garrus after the bomb mission, and Joker bugging Liara about her hair-tenticles are my favourites

Before we get too off topic, and banter you guys can thing of that could relate to IT?

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 29 mai 2012 - 03:00 .


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I'm currently wondering why there is apparently atmosphere on a side of the Citadel where absolutley no one would ever go visit, yet Shepard just breathes in normally as if walking on Earth.

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dmay7 wrote...

I'm currently wondering why there is apparently atmosphere on a side of the Citadel where absolutley no one would ever go visit, yet Shepard just breathes in normally as if walking on Earth.


And in ME1 they made a point to talk about that fact, and put on their helmets Posted Image

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I've got a question, if IT is true and the Catalist is NOT the true Catalist, then what (or who) is the Catalist? I think it would be too easy to say that Shepard is the Catalist but who knows.

Modifié par OneWithTheAssassins, 29 mai 2012 - 03:29 .


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The wall is...impressive.

For any that are looking for squad mates in different locations after each mission, if you pull up the map, you can scroll through all the areas of the Normandy to see if someone is not in their "room". Checking after each mission is great way to hear some of the squad banter...

Same thing with going to the citadel...each area seems to have several convos you can listen in on, some lead to small fetch quests - others just provide some background. All are cool in my opinion...one that always try to listen to is the amputee in the back of Huerta - the guy knows he has to lose his leg, and still wants to get back out there a.s.a.p. so he doesn't let his squad down...its little things like that that I like to believe keep my Shep going.

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I would love to stay on...but I think that I am going to retire to bed now.

Modifié par D.Sharrah, 29 mai 2012 - 03:29 .


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Arian Dynas wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

For the people bothered by it, you WILL be on this list, everyone will. But if it makes you feel better I'M not even on the list yet. And I won't be.


Huh. Why? 

(You'd probably consider me a cynic, by the way).


This is a Cynic in the traditional philosophical sense, bringing others back to reason and keeping them grounded.


Actually, yeah, you should throw me on there as a Cynic too. I believe in IT but I also want us to stay grounded and not go too out there with it. Use reason and all that.

EDIT: Also, Dreamgazer and I think a lot alike, so I usually agree with whatever he says or muses, not because I'm a yes man but because our brains are connected through QEC apparently.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 29 mai 2012 - 03:36 .


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OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

I've got a question, if IT is true and the Catalist is NOT the true Catalist, then what (or who) is the Catalist? I think it would be too easy to say that Shepard is the Catalist but who knows.


If it's not the Citadel, which everyone thinks it is, then it's probably Shepard.

What's interesting is that there is no Catalyst in the literal ending; catalysts can't be changed or altered.

-Starbinger can't be the Catalyst because he says the Crucible changed him. (Also proves beyond a doubt he lies)

-The Citadel can't be because it explodes

-Shepard can't be because Shep's altered in some way no matter what you pick

Literal = no Catalyst

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 29 mai 2012 - 03:39 .


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It's all or nothing for me, full on indoctrinationist.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

dmay7 wrote...

I'm currently wondering why there is apparently atmosphere on a side of the Citadel where absolutley no one would ever go visit, yet Shepard just breathes in normally as if walking on Earth.


And in ME1 they made a point to talk about that fact, and put on their helmets Posted Image

I also don't get it. In ME1 Shepard walked on the interior of the Citadel arm. Where did the atmosphere go? In ME3 he's on the exterior part and I don't think the Mass Effect Field covers that (what for would it?). I think during PAX they answered it with a Mass Effect Field coverage but it seems strange.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

byne wrote...

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I still found new dialogue I'd never heard on my 10th playthrough. Theres tons of crap you can easily miss.


Wish I could put that much effort into Mass Effect again like I did with Diablo.
Playtime has ~100 hours after two weeks.

:unsure:
*shame*




Skyrim. 300 hours of play total. Haven't touched it in weeks because of touchy mods.


Meh, 300 hours is nothing.

Talk to me when you've wasted as much time on anything as I've wasted on WoW:

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I know this convo was hours ago but I cant let an opportunity to prove I have less of a life than anyone else go by like that! ;)