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[BleedingUranium]

byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...


With ultralight materials the SMG weighs basically nothing though, thats why I always have one on my vanguard.

Because I can.

Though the Geth SMG is just a Spitfire with a different model, so in terms of gameplay it's a minigun, not an SMG.

Heat Sink V + Capacity V = 261 rounds

That also means more time firing at max rate

I used it on a human soldier once as a backup for when my Mattock ran out of ammo. Adrenaline Rush automatically reloads without you stopping. Was pretty awesome to fire nonstop through two full clips.

Wow  I used it with Marksman, but didn't think of Adrenaline

[byne]

Ok, so, the results of spending all my credits:

Vorcha Sentinel
Male Quarian Engineer
Cerberus Adept
Krysae Sniper Rifle III
Harrier Assault Rifle I

Thats not including all the older stuff I also unlocked.

Time to go get something to drink and then play some multiplayer!

[byne]

I promoted sentinel, soldier, and adept over the weekend as part of Shieldwall.

I didnt play them at all after promoting them, leaving them at level 1.

After spending all my credits, both adept and sentinel have somehow attained level 16 from all the cards I got while buying stuff. Thats fun.

[paxxton]

It's relatively quiet today, like no other day.

[Cucobr]

Im here too!

together.

HOLD THE LINE.

[MaximizedAction]

Cucobr wrote...

Im here too!

together.

HOLD THE LINE.

Welcome!

[Corik]

Heh, check this out: http://i1118.photobu...Weirdreaper.png

When doing the first optional mission, I found that weird Reaper design. I don't know what is it... never saw it before. First thing that came to my mind was "Presidium tower!" but that's impossible

[Ravereth]

byne wrote...

I promoted sentinel, soldier, and adept over the weekend as part of Shieldwall.

I didnt play them at all after promoting them, leaving them at level 1.

After spending all my credits, both adept and sentinel have somehow attained level 16 from all the cards I got while buying stuff. Thats fun.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1348/vang20.jpg

I played only with my infiltrator but I got so many exp from cards that I could promote my vanguard class even without creating a character  

Hey, hey wait... that's off topic again and.. I'm part of it 

BTW I promoted 10 characters during Shieldwall but I'm afraid that  4 of these promotions I made a little to late 

Modifié par Ravereth, 29 mai 2012 - 06:41 .

[MaximizedAction]

Corik wrote...

Heh, check this out: http://i1118.photobu...Weirdreaper.png

When doing the first optional mission, I found that weird Reaper design. I don't know what is it... never saw it before. First thing that came to my mind was "Presidium tower!" but that's impossible

I certainly haven't seen that design in ME3. Maybe it's somewhere hidden in the ME2 end shot.

[Shallyah]

I've missed much of this thread, but since the kid is the hot topic today, there's something that unsettles me about him the first time Shepard encounters him and offers him help. The kid doesn't only run away through the vents after refusing Shepard's aid. He says "You can't help me".

It sounds like a message, perhaps an omen. How old can that child possibly be? Seven, maybe 9? What kind of kid of that age would say "You can't help me". Really, a kid would either be too scared to talk or if refusing aid he would just scream "No!" or "Leave me alone!" or an array of things much more instinctive than "You can't help me".

"You can't help me" in that context sounds way too mature for a kid of that age. It shows a total absence of doubt unappropriate for a child. It also sounds like he knows better than Shepard.

Modifié par Shallyah, 29 mai 2012 - 06:46 .

[HellishFiend]

Shallyah wrote...

I've missed much of this thread, but since the kid is the hot topic today, there's something that unsettles me about him the first time Shepard encounters him and offers him help. The kid doesn't only run away through the vents after refusing Shepard's aid. He says "You can't help me".

It sounds like a message, perhaps an omen. How old can that child possibly be? Seven, maybe 9? What kind of kid of that age would say "You can't help me". Really, a kid would either be too scared to talk or if refusing aid he would just scream "No!" or "Leave me alone!" or an array of things much more instinctive than "You can't help me".

"You can't help me" in that context sounds way too mature for a kid of that age. It shows a total absence of doubt unappropriate for a child.

Agreed. I think it's the Reapers trying to set him up to lose his morale so he'll be easier to indoctrinate. 

The very first kid we ever see in a Mass Effect game, and he's telling Shepard he can't help him?

Gonna have to repaste one my favorite posts from byne:

byne wrote... 

Wrex - 1000+ year old super badass krogan: Needs Shepard's help

Rachni Queen - Giant freakin bug that can produce thousands of mindless workers: Needs Shepard's help

Quarian Migrant Fleet - 50,000 ships, housing 17 million quarians: Needs Shepard's help
 
Geth Consensus - countless millions of geth, including extremely durable combat platforms and tons of ships: Needs Shepard's help

Turian Hierarchy - Strongest military in the galaxy: Needs Shepard's help

Catalyst - LEADER OF THE FREAKIN REAPERS - Needs Shepard's help

8 year old boy - 8 year old boy: Doesnt need Shepard's help

 lolwut

 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 29 mai 2012 - 06:49 .

[Corik]

Shallyah wrote...

I've missed much of this thread, but since the kid is the hot topic today, there's something that unsettles me about him the first time Shepard encounters him and offers him help. The kid doesn't only run away through the vents after refusing Shepard's aid. He says "You can't help me".

It sounds like a message, perhaps an omen. How old can that child possibly be? Seven, maybe 9? What kind of kid of that age would say "You can't help me". Really, a kid would either be too scared to talk or if refusing aid he would just scream "No!" or "Leave me alone!" or an array of things much more instinctive than "You can't help me".

"You can't help me" in that context sounds way too mature for a kid of that age. It shows a total absence of doubt unappropriate for a child. It also sounds like he knows better than Shepard.

Yeah, I said the same yesterday. There's also something else very weeeeird in that scene. I would ask everybody to remember when Liara appeared at Mars Research Facility, she was crawling through the vent and she made a lot of noise in his way (Like the cerberus soldiers). The only noise the kid makes is too draw Shepard's attention. When he disappears, no noise is made. Another evidence suggesting that he's an illusion (another more... XD)

[dreamgazer]

Shallyah wrote...

I've missed much of this thread, but since the kid is the hot topic today, there's something that unsettles me about him the first time Shepard encounters him and offers him help. The kid doesn't only run away through the vents after refusing Shepard's aid. He says "You can't help me".

It sounds like a message, perhaps an omen. How old is possibly taht child, 7? maybe 9? What kind of kid of that age would say "You can't help me". Really, a kid would either be too scared to talk or if refusing aid he would just scream "No!" or "Leave me alone!" or even "Where is my mom?".

"You can't help me" in that context sounds way too mature for a kid of that age. Shows a total absence of fear or doubt unappropriate for a child and even most adults.

There was a non-IT discussion thread a few days about the writing surrounding the child. Many chalk it up to bad writing of a child in trauma.  Most dismiss it as general bad writing.

I, on the other hand, feel that you'd have to deliberately write lines of dialogue like that for a child, instead of just defaulting to a tear-factory huddled in the corner of a vent. There are many other blunt-headed ways of writing the child if BioWare just wanted to make them a symbol of needless suffering on Earth: have him cry and squirm in terror, have Shepard "save" him from the vent, then see him die anyway in the crash after leading him to relative safety.  

This, to me, feels deliberate.  Add in the fact that he just vanishes and Shepard looks confused afterwards, and ... well, given the thread we're in, I don't think I have to go any further.

Modifié par dreamgazer, 29 mai 2012 - 06:50 .

[HellishFiend]

Corik wrote...

Yeah, I said the same yesterday. There's also something else very weeeeird in that scene. I would ask everybody to remember when Liara appeared at Mars Research Facility, she was crawling through the vent and she made a lot of noise in his way (Like the cerberus soldiers). The only noise the kid makes is too draw Shepard's attention. When he disappears, no noise is made. Another evidence suggesting that he's an illusion (another more... XD)

Woah, mind blown. 

Now it makes sense why they have Liara being chased through a vent instead of something more standard. 

[Corik]

In fact, I think we should name the boy....... The Illusive Boy!

[llbountyhunter]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Corik wrote...

Heh, check this out: http://i1118.photobu...Weirdreaper.png

When doing the first optional mission, I found that weird Reaper design. I don't know what is it... never saw it before. First thing that came to my mind was "Presidium tower!" but that's impossible

I certainly haven't seen that design in ME3. Maybe it's somewhere hidden in the ME2 end shot.

it reminds me of that blue-lighted reaper we see next to harbinger in the arrival video.

[paxxton]

HellishFiend wrote...

Corik wrote...

Yeah, I said the same yesterday. There's also something else very weeeeird in that scene. I would ask everybody to remember when Liara appeared at Mars Research Facility, she was crawling through the vent and she made a lot of noise in his way (Like the cerberus soldiers). The only noise the kid makes is too draw Shepard's attention. When he disappears, no noise is made. Another evidence suggesting that he's an illusion (another more... XD)

Woah, mind blown. 

Now it makes sense why they have Liara being chased through a vent instead of something more standard. 

The vent on Mars is in the air not in a wall. When Liara moves the vibrations ripple through the air. The wall amortizes vibrations when the kid disappears. At least that's how it would look like in RL, I think.

[dreamgazer]

Corik wrote...

Yeah, I said the same yesterday. There's also something else very weeeeird in that scene. I would ask everybody to remember when Liara appeared at Mars Research Facility, she was crawling through the vent and she made a lot of noise in his way (Like the cerberus soldiers). The only noise the kid makes is too draw Shepard's attention. When he disappears, no noise is made. Another evidence suggesting that he's an illusion (another more... XD)

... I think I learn something new about the game every time I peek my head in the thread.  Good thinking.

"Hey, the boy doesn't make any noise when disappearing from the vent.  Want proof? Liara makes a crap-ton of noise scrambling through the vent in the game's next location/scene. One makes noise, the other doesn't. Why?"

[EpyonX3]

Corik wrote...

In fact, I think we should name the boy....... The Illusive Boy!

Haha TIB?

What if he's actually the forgot son of TIM?

WHAT A TWIST!

[Corik]

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Corik wrote...

Yeah, I said the same yesterday. There's also something else very weeeeird in that scene. I would ask everybody to remember when Liara appeared at Mars Research Facility, she was crawling through the vent and she made a lot of noise in his way (Like the cerberus soldiers). The only noise the kid makes is too draw Shepard's attention. When he disappears, no noise is made. Another evidence suggesting that he's an illusion (another more... XD)

Woah, mind blown. 

Now it makes sense why they have Liara being chased through a vent instead of something more standard. 

The vent on Mars is in the air not in a wall. When Liara moves the vibrations ripple through the air. The wall amortizes vibrations when the kid disappears. At least that's how it would look like in RL, I think.

I would agreee IF the vent on Earth didn't make any noise before Shepard went to see what was in there. But all of us heard the noise after Anderson crossed the door. That's why we went to check the vent. If the boy made noise then, he should make noise when he disappeared.

In fact, If we heard the noise at the door, we should hear it more clearly when standing just next to the vent!

Modifié par Corik, 29 mai 2012 - 07:04 .

[Shallyah]

The Illusive Boy or maybe the Illusive Kid. I like it. TIB or TIK?

Either way I like it. Hereby this mysterious boy has been baptismed.

[paxxton]

Corik wrote...

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Corik wrote...

Yeah, I said the same yesterday. There's also something else very weeeeird in that scene. I would ask everybody to remember when Liara appeared at Mars Research Facility, she was crawling through the vent and she made a lot of noise in his way (Like the cerberus soldiers). The only noise the kid makes is too draw Shepard's attention. When he disappears, no noise is made. Another evidence suggesting that he's an illusion (another more... XD)

Woah, mind blown. 

Now it makes sense why they have Liara being chased through a vent instead of something more standard. 

The vent on Mars is in the air not in a wall. When Liara moves the vibrations ripple through the air. The wall amortizes vibrations when the kid disappears. At least that's how it would look like in RL, I think.

I would agreee IF the vent on Earth didn't make any noise before Shepard went to see what was in there. But all of us heard the noise after Anderson crossed the door. That's why we went to check the vent. If the boy made noise then, he should make noise when he disappeared.

In fact, If we heard the noise at the door, we should hear it more clearly when standing just next to the vent!

I didn't hear any noise (maybe I should turn the music down). But the kid could have just summoned Shepard with his voice.

[DJBare]

I still think the kid was there as a clue and not for emotional reason's, yeah some might be affected but that's just coincidental to the real reason Bioware introduced him.

My take has always been this, the first time Shepard sees the kid he is real, then the attack comes, out of camera view the kid is either killed or taken by the reapers, the next time Shepard sees the kid is only a glimpse and can be easily missed before he runs in through a "securely locked" door, that building is way across from where Shepard first sees the kid, there is no way his little legs would have gotten him that far and up on that level in such a short time.

The building is then blasted by the beam, here it reinforces for me the kid could not have been real, an explosion like that would have ripped through the air ducts, there is no where in that building the kid would have been safe.

Anyway, as I stated, the kid was placed for a clue not emotional aspects, Bioware would have known the emotional aspect would have a few fans cringing.

[Corik]

paxxton wrote...

Corik wrote...

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Corik wrote...

Yeah, I said the same yesterday. There's also something else very weeeeird in that scene. I would ask everybody to remember when Liara appeared at Mars Research Facility, she was crawling through the vent and she made a lot of noise in his way (Like the cerberus soldiers). The only noise the kid makes is too draw Shepard's attention. When he disappears, no noise is made. Another evidence suggesting that he's an illusion (another more... XD)

Woah, mind blown. 

Now it makes sense why they have Liara being chased through a vent instead of something more standard. 

The vent on Mars is in the air not in a wall. When Liara moves the vibrations ripple through the air. The wall amortizes vibrations when the kid disappears. At least that's how it would look like in RL, I think.

I would agreee IF the vent on Earth didn't make any noise before Shepard went to see what was in there. But all of us heard the noise after Anderson crossed the door. That's why we went to check the vent. If the boy made noise then, he should make noise when he disappeared.

In fact, If we heard the noise at the door, we should hear it more clearly when standing just next to the vent!

I didn't hear any noise (maybe I should turn the music down). But the kid could have just summoned Shepard with his voice.

I assure you the noise is very clear. As clear as the absence of noise when he disappears. Try it again when you are bored

[byne]

HellishFiend wrote...

Agreed. I think it's the Reapers trying to set him up to lose his morale so he'll be easier to indoctrinate. 

The very first kid we ever see in a Mass Effect game, and he's telling Shepard he can't help him?

Gonna have to repaste one my favorite posts from byne:

byne wrote... 

Wrex - 1000+ year old super badass krogan: Needs Shepard's help

Rachni Queen - Giant freakin bug that can produce thousands of mindless workers: Needs Shepard's help

Quarian Migrant Fleet - 50,000 ships, housing 17 million quarians: Needs Shepard's help
 
Geth Consensus - countless millions of geth, including extremely durable combat platforms and tons of ships: Needs Shepard's help

Turian Hierarchy - Strongest military in the galaxy: Needs Shepard's help

Catalyst - LEADER OF THE FREAKIN REAPERS - Needs Shepard's help

8 year old boy - 8 year old boy: Doesnt need Shepard's help

 lolwut

 

Hah. I'd totally forgotten about writing that!

Anyhow, I was playing multiplayer on my vorcha sentinel.

A geth pyro started shooting fire at my face, so I shot fire right back at its face, and my regen let me live while the pyro died.

Vorcha are pretty awesome