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paxxton wrote...
I didn't hear any noise (maybe I should turn the music down). But the kid could have just summoned Shepard with his voice.
DJBare wrote...
I still think the kid was there as a clue and not for emotional reason's, yeah some might be affected but that's just coincidental to the real reason Bioware introduced him.
My take has always been this, the first time Shepard sees the kid he is real, then the attack comes, out of camera view the kid is either killed or taken by the reapers, the next time Shepard sees the kid is only a glimpse and can be easily missed before he runs in through a "securely locked" door, that building is way across from where Shepard first sees the kid, there is no way his little legs would have gotten him that far and up on that level in such a short time.
The building is then blasted by the beam, here it reinforces for me the kid could not have been real, an explosion like that would have ripped through the air ducts, there is no where in that building the kid would have been safe.
Anyway, as I stated, the kid was placed for a clue not emotional aspects, Bioware would have known the emotional aspect would have a few fans cringing.
Modifié par MaximizedAction, 29 mai 2012 - 07:26 .
I think I heard it.dreamgazer wrote...
paxxton wrote...
I didn't hear any noise (maybe I should turn the music down). But the kid could have just summoned Shepard with his voice.
Noise is there. (Can't find a good video of it, outside of a capture of the demo).
More importantly, you hear the kid banging around while he's backing up into the vent.
What for? It's perfectly normal and widely accepted around the Galaxy.DJBare wrote...
Oh, and to add, Anderson never once acknowledges the kids presence or the reason Shepard is talking to an empty air vent.
Modifié par paxxton, 29 mai 2012 - 07:30 .
DJBare wrote...
Anyway, as I stated, the kid was placed for a clue not emotional aspects, Bioware would have known the emotional aspect would have a few fans cringing.
paxxton wrote...
What for? It's perfectly normal and widely accepted around the Galaxy.DJBare wrote...
Oh, and to add, Anderson never once acknowledges the kids presence or the reason Shepard is talking to an empty air vent.
Hah! But seriously, from Anderson's perspective it looked like Shepard was looking for something. He appeared when Shepard silently stretched his hand into the vent.Corik wrote...
paxxton wrote...
What for? It's perfectly normal and widely accepted around the Galaxy.DJBare wrote...
Oh, and to add, Anderson never once acknowledges the kids presence or the reason Shepard is talking to an empty air vent.
He's commander Shepard and that's his favourite ventilation shaft on Earth.
Modifié par paxxton, 29 mai 2012 - 07:32 .
Agreed, the kid would represent the destruction of humanity, it's symbolism, but as we have seen on these forum's the emotional aspect definitely takes a back seat, and I'm pretty sure the writers would have viewed it in the same way.dreamgazer wrote...
DJBare wrote...
Anyway, as I stated, the kid was placed for a clue not emotional aspects, Bioware would have known the emotional aspect would have a few fans cringing.
I think it was both---not as an emotional bond to the child himself, but as a bond to the people getting obliterated on earth without a way of defending themselves. And as a clue, a device to be used later.
paxxton wrote...
Hah! But seriously, from Anderson's perspective it looked like Shepard was looking for something. He appeared when Shepard silently stretched his hand into the vent.Corik wrote...
paxxton wrote...
What for? It's perfectly normal and widely accepted around the Galaxy.DJBare wrote...
Oh, and to add, Anderson never once acknowledges the kids presence or the reason Shepard is talking to an empty air vent.
He's commander Shepard and that's his favourite ventilation shaft on Earth.
I don't think Anderson would be aware that he's a character in a video game.legaldinho wrote...
paxxton wrote...
Hah! But seriously, from Anderson's perspective it looked like Shepard was looking for something. He appeared when Shepard silently stretched his hand into the vent.Corik wrote...
paxxton wrote...
What for? It's perfectly normal and widely accepted around the Galaxy.DJBare wrote...
Oh, and to add, Anderson never once acknowledges the kids presence or the reason Shepard is talking to an empty air vent.
He's commander Shepard and that's his favourite ventilation shaft on Earth.
Anderson thought it was asset reuse.
Modifié par paxxton, 29 mai 2012 - 07:39 .
And humans are definitely a curious bunch, why would Anderson not be curious and try to see what Shepard was looking at, more to the point, why in the hell did Shepard not say anything, "oh, it's only a kid running around in the air ducts, no need to mention it"; did Shepard doubt what s/he saw?paxxton wrote...
Hah! But seriously, from Anderson's perspective it looked like Shepard was looking for something. He appeared when Shepard silently stretched his hand into the vent.
Angmir wrote...
I just repleyed the part of the game with Shepard linking into the Geth consensus - Geth Fighter Squadrons. Remember what Joker says after the mission ??
How would you know if you realy got out - and all you expeiense now is just simulation ...
Maybe the crappy endings are just a part of that simulation and Shepards Mind is just trapped inside the Consensus forever ^ ^. This is osme alternative to Indoctrination theory isnt it ;p
Definately when the whole Galaxy depends on Shepard's escaping Earth. Anderson has more important things to do at that time than asking Shepard about a vent. They are both running for their lives. Besides, the child's gone - case closed.DJBare wrote...
And humans are definitely a curious bunch, why would Anderson not be curious and try to see what Shepard was looking at, more to the point, why in the hell did Shepard not say anything, "oh, it's only a kid running around in the air ducts, no need to mention it"; did Shepard doubt what s/he saw?paxxton wrote...
Hah! But seriously, from Anderson's perspective it looked like Shepard was looking for something. He appeared when Shepard silently stretched his hand into the vent.
Modifié par paxxton, 29 mai 2012 - 07:49 .
paxxton wrote...
Definately when the whole Galaxy depends on Shepard's escaping Earth. Anderson has more important things to do at that time than asking Shepard about a vent. They are both running for their lives. Besides, the child's gone - case closed.DJBare wrote...
And humans are definitely a curious bunch, why would Anderson not be curious and try to see what Shepard was looking at, more to the point, why in the hell did Shepard not say anything, "oh, it's only a kid running around in the air ducts, no need to mention it"; did Shepard doubt what s/he saw?paxxton wrote...
Hah! But seriously, from Anderson's perspective it looked like Shepard was looking for something. He appeared when Shepard silently stretched his hand into the vent.
I think they were moving through the rubble while talking.Ytook wrote...
paxxton wrote...
Definately when the whole Galaxy depends on Shepard's escaping Earth. Anderson has more important things to do at that time than asking Shepard about a vent. They are both running for their lives. Besides, the child's gone - case closed.DJBare wrote...
And humans are definitely a curious bunch, why would Anderson not be curious and try to see what Shepard was looking at, more to the point, why in the hell did Shepard not say anything, "oh, it's only a kid running around in the air ducts, no need to mention it"; did Shepard doubt what s/he saw?paxxton wrote...
Hah! But seriously, from Anderson's perspective it looked like Shepard was looking for something. He appeared when Shepard silently stretched his hand into the vent.
He has time to stop and have a chat about your history and the council, but not to quickly ask Shep why she has her arm in an empty vent for no reason when they are trying to get out the building?
paxxton wrote...
I don't think Anderson would be aware that he's a character in a video game.legaldinho wrote...
paxxton wrote...
Hah! But seriously, from Anderson's perspective it looked like Shepard was looking for something. He appeared when Shepard silently stretched his hand into the vent.Corik wrote...
paxxton wrote...
What for? It's perfectly normal and widely accepted around the Galaxy.DJBare wrote...
Oh, and to add, Anderson never once acknowledges the kids presence or the reason Shepard is talking to an empty air vent.
He's commander Shepard and that's his favourite ventilation shaft on Earth.
Anderson thought it was asset reuse.
paxxton wrote...
Definately when the whole Galaxy depends on Shepard's escaping Earth. Anderson has more important things to do at that time than asking Shepard about a vent. They are both running for their lives.DJBare wrote...
And humans are definitely a curious bunch, why would Anderson not be curious and try to see what Shepard was looking at, more to the point, why in the hell did Shepard not say anything, "oh, it's only a kid running around in the air ducts, no need to mention it"; did Shepard doubt what s/he saw?paxxton wrote...
Hah! But seriously, from Anderson's perspective it looked like Shepard was looking for something. He appeared when Shepard silently stretched his hand into the vent.
And Anderson paused his efforts at least once during the conversation, so they were not that desperate, Shepard definitely paused, just stood there and responded to Anderson about the council.paxxton wrote...
I think they were moving through the rubble while talking.Ytook wrote...
paxxton wrote...
Definately when the whole Galaxy depends on Shepard's escaping Earth. Anderson has more important things to do at that time than asking Shepard about a vent. They are both running for their lives. Besides, the child's gone - case closed.DJBare wrote...
And humans are definitely a curious bunch, why would Anderson not be curious and try to see what Shepard was looking at, more to the point, why in the hell did Shepard not say anything, "oh, it's only a kid running around in the air ducts, no need to mention it"; did Shepard doubt what s/he saw?paxxton wrote...
Hah! But seriously, from Anderson's perspective it looked like Shepard was looking for something. He appeared when Shepard silently stretched his hand into the vent.
He has time to stop and have a chat about your history and the council, but not to quickly ask Shep why she has her arm in an empty vent for no reason when they are trying to get out the building?
Angmir wrote...
I just repleyed the part of the game with Shepard linking into the Geth consensus - Geth Fighter Squadrons. Remember what Joker says after the mission ??
How would you know if you realy got out - and all you expeiense now is just simulation ...
Maybe the crappy endings are just a part of that simulation and Shepards Mind is just trapped inside the Consensus forever ^ ^. This is osme alternative to Indoctrination theory isnt it ;p
If I was that kid and that Shepard told me it was okay, I think I'd soon gain a small puddle o' pee beneath me.dreamgazer wrote...
paxxton wrote...
I didn't hear any noise (maybe I should turn the music down). But the kid could have just summoned Shepard with his voice.
Noise is there. (Can't find a good video of it, outside of a capture of the demo).
More importantly, you hear the kid banging around while he's backing up into the vent.
paxxton wrote...
The vent on Mars is in the air not in a wall. When Liara moves the vibrations ripple through the air. The wall amortizes vibrations when the kid disappears. At least that's how it would look like in RL, I think.HellishFiend wrote...
Corik wrote...
Yeah, I said the same yesterday. There's also something else very weeeeird in that scene. I would ask everybody to remember when Liara appeared at Mars Research Facility, she was crawling through the vent and she made a lot of noise in his way (Like the cerberus soldiers). The only noise the kid makes is too draw Shepard's attention. When he disappears, no noise is made. Another evidence suggesting that he's an illusion (another more... XD)
Woah, mind blown.
Now it makes sense why they have Liara being chased through a vent instead of something more standard.
Modifié par estebanus, 29 mai 2012 - 08:34 .
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