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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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masster blaster wrote...

byne wrote...

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My question is why does it take you back at the end of ME3 to the Cerberus headquarters instead of continuation like ME3 only you play like nothing happened/ see Shepard's name on the wall.


Cause before the assailt on TIM's base is the last point at which you can complete side quests.

well I felt Bioware should not have done that since for one Normandy is gone. 2 you can't tell or try to kill joker/ tell the crew what the f*** and 3 It is like a stab in the back since we have just played the ending and hate it.


It takes you back to before you did that mission. I dont see why thats confusing to you. The Normandy isnt damaged yet at that point. Its a simple concept.

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D.Sharrah wrote...

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A couple of things that I noticed today when I was playing...

1. Anderson - is referred to as Admiral during one of the comm chances on the Normandy, I believe its Traynor that says, "Admiral Anderson is available on the Vid-Com, Sir."

2. Javik - actually makes quite a few apperances throughout the ship. In Jack's old "room", in the lounge talking to Garrus and a soldier, in the Mess Hall taking to James, and in the AI core arguing with EDI...may be more but that's what I saw today (and during this current playthrough).

Damn, I missed that, do you have the dialogue or perhaps a youtube of the argument?


Here it is...



I think it usually comes up after one of the mission on Rannoch...

Edit:  ninja'd by Byne...should have known that I was going to be too slow.  Posted Image


I didnt link it. You werent ninja'd by me.

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byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

My question is why does it take you back at the end of ME3 to the Cerberus headquarters instead of continuation like ME3 only you play like nothing happened/ see Shepard's name on the wall.


Cause before the assailt on TIM's base is the last point at which you can complete side quests.

well I felt Bioware should not have done that since for one Normandy is gone. 2 you can't tell or try to kill joker/ tell the crew what the f*** and 3 It is like a stab in the back since we have just played the ending and hate it.


It takes you back to before you did that mission. I dont see why thats confusing to you. The Normandy isnt damaged yet at that point. Its a simple concept.


@masster blaster, just look at it this way. The game is simply loading an autosave for you, that happens to be right before the attack on TIM's base. Just pretend that it kicked you to the main menu and that you loaded the save yourself. It's no different. 

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I like to point out that when Shepard wakes up after Harby leaves Shepard could have told Colts

don't ....retreat..st..stand ...a.a.and fight.

Then the rest of hammer comes and enters the beam and the end, not.

God child/Harby:F***.

Modifié par masster blaster, 30 mai 2012 - 01:32 .


#8905
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HellishFiend wrote...

Arian, didnt you just post that wall of text a few pages ago?


And apparently some people didn't bother reading it <_<

byne wrote...

Arian, since I'm going to assume you didnt type that all up just now on the fly, how exactly do you avoid the forum doing that crazy formatting when you copy/paste something?

 

Quote.

Copy post.

Paste. 

Voila.

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HellishFiend wrote...

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

My question is why does it take you back at the end of ME3 to the Cerberus headquarters instead of continuation like ME3 only you play like nothing happened/ see Shepard's name on the wall.


Cause before the assailt on TIM's base is the last point at which you can complete side quests.

well I felt Bioware should not have done that since for one Normandy is gone. 2 you can't tell or try to kill joker/ tell the crew what the f*** and 3 It is like a stab in the back since we have just played the ending and hate it.


It takes you back to before you did that mission. I dont see why thats confusing to you. The Normandy isnt damaged yet at that point. Its a simple concept.


@masster blaster, just look at it this way. The game is simply loading an autosave for you, that happens to be right before the attack on TIM's base. Just pretend that it kicked you to the main menu and that you loaded the save yourself. It's no different. 


Ya it's just ME2's ending and after the ending back on the Normandy was mindblowing and awsome.

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masster blaster wrote...

I like to point out that when Shepard wakes up after Harby leaves Shepard could have told Colts

don't ....retreat..st..stand ...a.a.and fight.

Then the rest of hammer comes and enters the beam and the end, not.


Yes, but we cant use that as evidence for IT, because even if it was real, Shepard would have been too focused on trying to limp to the beam, just like we see, rather than having the presence of mind to call out on the radio. 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 30 mai 2012 - 01:34 .


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masster blaster wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

@masster blaster, just look at it this way. The game is simply loading an autosave for you, that happens to be right before the attack on TIM's base. Just pretend that it kicked you to the main menu and that you loaded the save yourself. It's no different. 


Ya it's just ME2's ending and after the ending back on the Normandy was mindblowing and awsome.


I agree, but you cant draw a comparison between ME2's ending and ME3's, because ME3 is the final game of the trilogy, and it is not feasible (at this point, at least), to allow you to continue to play chronologically after the ending. 

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byne wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

Javik vs. EDI


My right to self defense endangers no one.

One of my favorite EDI lines. Dont know why.


Because it's a great line, one that really starts to show her fire.

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HellishFiend wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

I like to point out that when Shepard wakes up after Harby leaves Shepard could have told Colts

don't ....retreat..st..stand ...a.a.and fight.

Then the rest of hammer comes and enters the beam and the end, not.


Yes, but we cant use that as evidence for IT, because if it was real, Shepard would have been too focused on trying to limp to the beam, just like we see, rather than having the presence of mind to call out on the radio. 


 I just wanted to let Bioware know that really he/ she could have called for back up/ order a air strik on Harby's *** and enter the conduit. but yes it would not help supoort IT.

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HellishFiend wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

@masster blaster, just look at it this way. The game is simply loading an autosave for you, that happens to be right before the attack on TIM's base. Just pretend that it kicked you to the main menu and that you loaded the save yourself. It's no different. 


Ya it's just ME2's ending and after the ending back on the Normandy was mindblowing and awsome.


I agree, but you cant draw a comparison between ME2's ending and ME3's, because ME3 is the final game of the trilogy, and it is not feasible (at this point, at least), to allow you to continue to play chronologically after the ending. 


True.

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I do like it how some people think Bioware disproved IT but if they did then why is this form still up ( I don't mean you byne.) and why is it that they would have tolled the fans that believe IT there are wrong.

Modifié par masster blaster, 30 mai 2012 - 01:42 .


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Sorry...just tried to post pics and didn't work. Try again later.

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 30 mai 2012 - 01:43 .


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It would be nice if some people finally figure out this forum software is a POS and does not always allow the convenience of copy/paste.

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TJBartlemus wrote...

Sorry...just tried to post pics and didn't work. Try again later.


Oh I was like what.

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acidic-ph0 wrote...

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but I just saw this thread and thought it was relevent to the IT theory.

http://social.biowar.../index/12241848

Apparently there is a section of dialogue in Mass Effect Retribution that sounds suspiciously similar to the catalyst's lines in the ending. Well, I thought this was pretty interesting!

Sounds like a mix of Nazara and Saren quotes :P
but yeah, her reaction is about the reaction Shep has.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 30 mai 2012 - 01:48 .


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TJBartlemus wrote...

Sorry...just tried to post pics and didn't work. Try again later.

Don't attempt to drag the image onto this forum, it will only form a local url(your own on your computer), the best way is to upload the image to something like imageshack and copy their url.

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byne wrote...

Arian, since I'm going to assume you didnt type that all up just now on the fly, how exactly do you avoid the forum doing that crazy formatting when you copy/paste something?

Use the BBCode editor, not the WYSIWYG editor.

DJBare wrote...

It would be nice if some people finally figure out this forum software is a POS and does not always allow the convenience of copy/paste.

but it does.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 30 mai 2012 - 01:48 .


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My computer just doesn't seem to like posting pics. It's alright I'll fix it later.

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 30 mai 2012 - 01:54 .


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MegumiAzusa wrote...

byne wrote...

Arian, since I'm going to assume you didnt type that all up just now on the fly, how exactly do you avoid the forum doing that crazy formatting when you copy/paste something?

Use the BBCode editor, not the WYSIWYG editor.

DJBare wrote...

It would be nice if some people finally figure out this forum software is a POS and does not always allow the convenience of copy/paste.

but it does.

Then I stand corrected, anything I've attempted to drag from my folders onto this forum has always failed 100%

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estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

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@ TSA.

I think maybe two at most, I am starting to get into the multiplayer a bit more just because it seems like it will have a great impact on the single player aspect of the game.

 
Maybe the N7 characters we have promoted will help rescue Shepard in the Red ending when Shepard wakes up and depending of how much we have promoted Shepard can be fixed up and resume his/her mission to destroy the Reapers. 



There are going to be a lot of pissed off people if Bioware decides it's necessary to play multiplayer in order to finish the endings...




PO'd yup, but I still refuse to do ANYTHING MP, so I'll just use the 'mod' instead.Posted Image

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DJBare wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

byne wrote...

Arian, since I'm going to assume you didnt type that all up just now on the fly, how exactly do you avoid the forum doing that crazy formatting when you copy/paste something?

Use the BBCode editor, not the WYSIWYG editor.

DJBare wrote...

It would be nice if some people finally figure out this forum software is a POS and does not always allow the convenience of copy/paste.

but it does.

Then I stand corrected, anything I've attempted to drag from my folders onto this forum has always failed 100%

Oh you mean just copy/pasting an image? I wouldn't do that anyway.

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They really should make a computer that just knew what you wanted to do and did it.

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 30 mai 2012 - 02:10 .


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I just watch the God Child and Shepard conversation and I was like okay same thing but then I pad close attention to the dialog and the brat said" but we found a solution" should it have been I found a solution to bring order to the cycle.

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ohupthis wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

delldo wrote...

@ TSA.

I think maybe two at most, I am starting to get into the multiplayer a bit more just because it seems like it will have a great impact on the single player aspect of the game.

 
Maybe the N7 characters we have promoted will help rescue Shepard in the Red ending when Shepard wakes up and depending of how much we have promoted Shepard can be fixed up and resume his/her mission to destroy the Reapers. 



There are going to be a lot of pissed off people if Bioware decides it's necessary to play multiplayer in order to finish the endings...




PO'd yup, but I still refuse to do ANYTHING MP, so I'll just use the 'mod' instead.Posted Image


Why do you refuse to do MP? Its pretty damned fun