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#9001
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Oh, remember Javik's debate with EDI in the AI core?
"And what if your upgrade endangers others? All machines eventually see organics as a threat."
Does sound familiar, doesn't it?

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D.Sharrah wrote...

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prettz wrote...

ok hears somthing to speculate.
as we know we see the kid playing at the beginning of ME3. hear is picture from Shepard room
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now after the reapers arrive an you gain control of Shepard for the first time you can see the same place but the garden no longer exists, it's just gone
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hears me looking at it in normal game play
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and flycam back where Shepard room was looking down.
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really now, how did I miss this all this time?
now I need some sleep so have fun speculating .



Great find, prettz! [throws it onto the 'evidence' pile]

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I think there's a geth plasma weapon in SP. Fires with increasing frequency.

 

I love that damned gun. It's pretty much the only weapon I ever used once I found it in SP. Never runs out of ammo, and if you can track something full blast with it, it usually takes it down.

But yes I agree all MP weapons should port to SP. Would make the dlc packs much more attractive to SPers. I've started a separate thread about how all the MP maps should also appear in SP as N7 missions.


This is an awesome find...definetly find it hard to believe that the kid was able to get form there to the "locked door" before Shep...can't believe I never noticed that - will pay more attention the next time I start a game.  Anyway that we can get a close up of the tree that is in the upper left corner of the garden...its hard to tell from so far away, but the first thing I thought when looking at it, was that it looks like the cube map in decision chamber...


It's interesting. If you play through the beginning again, watch the balcony where you fight the first group of husks. You'll first notice that the balcony is inaccessible because parts of the building have been destroyed or are on fire. If you keep watching the balcony, you'll actually see the kid spawn right by the railing, then run through the door that you find locked after fighting the husks.

What to make of all that? 

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masster blaster wrote...

So who thinks Wrex should save Shepard or Shepard's love interest should save Shepard after the Destroy ending, or Joker comes back crying Shepard about his stupied choice of leaving Shepard to die.


Except according to IT Joker never did that.

You really seem angry at Joker for something IT claims he never did in the first place.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Oh, remember Javik's debate with EDI in the AI core?
"And what if your upgrade endangers others? All machines eventually see organics as a threat."
Does sound familiar, doesn't it?


Yes it does though I wish I had Javik and EDI, or Ash with Shepard on the citadle so that they can tell off the God child about is so called solution while Shepard and Anderson look for the main control room and boom kill the Reapers once and for all.

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D.Sharrah wrote...

Destructorlio wrote...

prettz wrote...

ok hears somthing to speculate.
as we know we see the kid playing at the beginning of ME3. hear is picture from Shepard room
Posted Image

now after the reapers arrive an you gain control of Shepard for the first time you can see the same place but the garden no longer exists, it's just gone
Posted Image

hears me looking at it in normal game play
Posted Image

and flycam back where Shepard room was looking down.
Posted Image

really now, how did I miss this all this time?
now I need some sleep so have fun speculating .



Great find, prettz! [throws it onto the 'evidence' pile]

paxxton wrote...

I think there's a geth plasma weapon in SP. Fires with increasing frequency.

 

I love that damned gun. It's pretty much the only weapon I ever used once I found it in SP. Never runs out of ammo, and if you can track something full blast with it, it usually takes it down.

But yes I agree all MP weapons should port to SP. Would make the dlc packs much more attractive to SPers. I've started a separate thread about how all the MP maps should also appear in SP as N7 missions.


This is an awesome find...definetly find it hard to believe that the kid was able to get form there to the "locked door" before Shep...can't believe I never noticed that - will pay more attention the next time I start a game.  Anyway that we can get a close up of the tree that is in the upper left corner of the garden...its hard to tell from so far away, but the first thing I thought when looking at it, was that it looks like the cube map in decision chamber...


The "god-child's" space magic is strong, ... stronger than your pitiful attempts at speculation, all glory to the hypno-toad

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Oh, remember Javik's debate with EDI in the AI core?
"And what if your upgrade endangers others? All machines eventually see organics as a threat."
Does sound familiar, doesn't it?


Yeah, I guess that was more than just Javik showing that he can be, "A certain feminine hygene product one might use on a midsummer's day," to quote Howard Wolowitz on the Big Bang Theory.  OK, honestly, I don't hate Javik like some others.  In fact, I kind of found him to be a tragic figure once you learn about what happened to him.  

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byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

So who thinks Wrex should save Shepard or Shepard's love interest should save Shepard after the Destroy ending, or Joker comes back crying Shepard about his stupied choice of leaving Shepard to die.


Except according to IT Joker never did that.

You really seem angry at Joker for something IT claims he never did in the first place.


Well yes but I hate it that Bioware had to put in Joker fleeing the battle field, and if you chose destroy either your love intreset comes out with him or Edi which makes no sense since Edi should be dead but so should Shepard.
It also is a slap to the face since Joker was with you to the death and so was everyone but then he just left with everyon Shepard cared about. except Anderson

Modifié par masster blaster, 30 mai 2012 - 03:27 .


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masster blaster wrote...

So who thinks Wrex should save Shepard or Shepard's love interest should save Shepard after the Destroy ending, or Joker comes back crying Shepard about his stupied choice of leaving Shepard to die.

Joker will not be coming back crying because Joker never left in the first place, if you accept I.T the Nornandy out running a wave and crash landing was all in Shepard's mind, none of the last few minutes really happened.

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No wonder Bioware wanted 6 months, seeing some of the latest post, people are only just catching up on things that were put forward weeks ago.

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DJBare wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

So who thinks Wrex should save Shepard or Shepard's love interest should save Shepard after the Destroy ending, or Joker comes back crying Shepard about his stupied choice of leaving Shepard to die.

Joker will not be coming back crying because Joker never left in the first place, if you accept I.T the Nornandy out running a wave and crash landing was all in Shepard's mind, none of the last few minutes really happened.


I am just angry at fake joker okay I hate it that the Reapers did that espacially when your love intreset comes out with him so there.

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My question is once Shepard wakes up who will save him, or her for the Reaper forces, and if any of Shepard's squad/ former squad then I hope Shepard can kill Harby, and Tim Slowly until there is nothing left of there body's.

Also get in the mako and go on a rampage.

Modifié par masster blaster, 30 mai 2012 - 03:36 .


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DJBare wrote...

No wonder Bioware wanted 6 months, seeing some of the latest post, people are only just catching up on things that were put forward weeks ago.


Yeah, that's one of the problems.  There's so much speculating (And other, more OT things.) going on on this thread that it can be a little rough to keep up at times.  Also, in other news, my dad just finished ME3, and even HE thought the endings sucked.  Additionally, he agrees that something is up with everything.  Whether or not it's indoctrination, he agrees that the endings were probably a dream/vision/hallucination of some sort.

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Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen,

Tonight, I have two words for you; two very important words:

Vorcha Soldier.

Yes, you heard me right, Vorcha Soldier.

This guy is absolutely hilarious to listen to, all his unique animations are awesome, and he is super fun to play as. I highly recommend giving it a try (if you're into MP of course)!

Also, if anybody ever wants to play some PC MP, my Origin username is someotherguy86.

Having said that, how are you all tonight?

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Big Bad wrote...

Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen,

Tonight, I have two words for you; two very important words:

Vorcha Soldier.

Yes, you heard me right, Vorcha Soldier.

This guy is absolutely hilarious to listen to, all his unique animations are awesome, and he is super fun to play as. I highly recommend giving it a try (if you're into MP of course)!

 


I'm pretty sure I heard my vorcha scream 'Big monster!' when a brute showed up once.

Vorcha are awesome

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Dwailing wrote...

DJBare wrote...

No wonder Bioware wanted 6 months, seeing some of the latest post, people are only just catching up on things that were put forward weeks ago.


Yeah, that's one of the problems.  There's so much speculating (And other, more OT things.) going on on this thread that it can be a little rough to keep up at times.  Also, in other news, my dad just finished ME3, and even HE thought the endings sucked.  Additionally, he agrees that something is up with everything.  Whether or not it's indoctrination, he agrees that the endings were probably a dream/vision/hallucination of some sort.


We can only hope though if bioware messes up again Wrex will apper right infont of EA headquaters and let's just say it's not going to be pretty. And while Wrex goes to EA Garrus goes to Bioware and takes the stick up his *** then ask " Who need's there *** kicking now"
 :)

Just playing Bioware no need to hate.

Modifié par masster blaster, 30 mai 2012 - 03:41 .


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byne wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen,

Tonight, I have two words for you; two very important words:

Vorcha Soldier.

Yes, you heard me right, Vorcha Soldier.

This guy is absolutely hilarious to listen to, all his unique animations are awesome, and he is super fun to play as. I highly recommend giving it a try (if you're into MP of course)!

 


I'm pretty sure I heard my vorcha scream 'Big monster!' when a brute showed up once.

Vorcha are awesome


And I'm guessing they're STILL all voiced by Mark Meer.  Bow down to the almighty voice of BroShep!  Bow down I say! jk, jk

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Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen,

Tonight, I have two words for you; two very important words:

Vorcha Soldier.

Yes, you heard me right, Vorcha Soldier.

This guy is absolutely hilarious to listen to, all his unique animations are awesome, and he is super fun to play as. I highly recommend giving it a try (if you're into MP of course)!

 


I'm pretty sure I heard my vorcha scream 'Big monster!' when a brute showed up once.

Vorcha are awesome


And I'm guessing they're STILL all voiced by Mark Meer.  Bow down to the almighty voice of BroShep!  Bow down I say! jk, jk


I bowed, I'm in the minority that says broshep has a better voice actor as well.

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balance5050 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen,

Tonight, I have two words for you; two very important words:

Vorcha Soldier.

Yes, you heard me right, Vorcha Soldier.

This guy is absolutely hilarious to listen to, all his unique animations are awesome, and he is super fun to play as. I highly recommend giving it a try (if you're into MP of course)!

 


I'm pretty sure I heard my vorcha scream 'Big monster!' when a brute showed up once.

Vorcha are awesome


And I'm guessing they're STILL all voiced by Mark Meer.  Bow down to the almighty voice of BroShep!  Bow down I say! jk, jk


I bowed, I'm in the minority that says broshep has a better voice actor as well.


Well, luckily for you, you have the right to be wrong.

:D

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byne wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen,

Tonight, I have two words for you; two very important words:

Vorcha Soldier.

Yes, you heard me right, Vorcha Soldier.

This guy is absolutely hilarious to listen to, all his unique animations are awesome, and he is super fun to play as. I highly recommend giving it a try (if you're into MP of course)!

 


I'm pretty sure I heard my vorcha scream 'Big monster!' when a brute showed up once.

Vorcha are awesome


Once, when I was revived by somebody he yelled, "Me alliiive!!"  I nearly fell out of my chair.  :D

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balance5050 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen,

Tonight, I have two words for you; two very important words:

Vorcha Soldier.

Yes, you heard me right, Vorcha Soldier.

This guy is absolutely hilarious to listen to, all his unique animations are awesome, and he is super fun to play as. I highly recommend giving it a try (if you're into MP of course)!

 


I'm pretty sure I heard my vorcha scream 'Big monster!' when a brute showed up once.

Vorcha are awesome


And I'm guessing they're STILL all voiced by Mark Meer.  Bow down to the almighty voice of BroShep!  Bow down I say! jk, jk


I bowed, I'm in the minority that says broshep has a better voice actor as well.


Full disclosure, I still have yet to complete a playthrough with FemShep, but I really do like Mark Meer's voice acting.

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Big Bad wrote...

byne wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen,

Tonight, I have two words for you; two very important words:

Vorcha Soldier.

Yes, you heard me right, Vorcha Soldier.

This guy is absolutely hilarious to listen to, all his unique animations are awesome, and he is super fun to play as. I highly recommend giving it a try (if you're into MP of course)!

 


I'm pretty sure I heard my vorcha scream 'Big monster!' when a brute showed up once.

Vorcha are awesome


Once, when I was revived by somebody he yelled, "Me alliiive!!"  I nearly fell out of my chair.  :D


For some reason it really amuses me to use my flamethrower on my teammates between rounds.

I like to think my vorcha is just confused, and trying to help.

He doesnt know any better!

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I have to say Destroy is the way to go because in every day life War destroys everything in it's path but in the end it's the people who fight in War are the once who change the way it comes out. What I am trying to say is that even though War can be very bad it can also have a positive side affect after the aftermath which leads to peace some times for a while, and it because of the brave men and women who die trying to end war that give there children and people a future to look towards.

Modifié par masster blaster, 30 mai 2012 - 03:48 .


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byne wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen,

Tonight, I have two words for you; two very important words:

Vorcha Soldier.

Yes, you heard me right, Vorcha Soldier.

This guy is absolutely hilarious to listen to, all his unique animations are awesome, and he is super fun to play as. I highly recommend giving it a try (if you're into MP of course)!

 


I'm pretty sure I heard my vorcha scream 'Big monster!' when a brute showed up once.

Vorcha are awesome


And I'm guessing they're STILL all voiced by Mark Meer.  Bow down to the almighty voice of BroShep!  Bow down I say! jk, jk


I bowed, I'm in the minority that says broshep has a better voice actor as well.


Well, luckily for you, you have the right to be wrong.

:D


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So sorry. :innocent:


Not taking any sides here! I like both!

*shields his head from incoming punches*

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Dwailing wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen,

Tonight, I have two words for you; two very important words:

Vorcha Soldier.

Yes, you heard me right, Vorcha Soldier.

This guy is absolutely hilarious to listen to, all his unique animations are awesome, and he is super fun to play as. I highly recommend giving it a try (if you're into MP of course)!

 


I'm pretty sure I heard my vorcha scream 'Big monster!' when a brute showed up once.

Vorcha are awesome


And I'm guessing they're STILL all voiced by Mark Meer.  Bow down to the almighty voice of BroShep!  Bow down I say! jk, jk


I bowed, I'm in the minority that says broshep has a better voice actor as well.


Full disclosure, I still have yet to complete a playthrough with FemShep, but I really do like Mark Meer's voice acting.


I cant stand Meer's acting as Shepard. He doesnt feel right for the part.

Meer plays Shepard, but Hale is Shepard.

With Meer I can always tell it is someone playing a part, and no matter how well he plays it, he cant really salvage it from there.

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byne wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

byne wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen,

Tonight, I have two words for you; two very important words:

Vorcha Soldier.

Yes, you heard me right, Vorcha Soldier.

This guy is absolutely hilarious to listen to, all his unique animations are awesome, and he is super fun to play as. I highly recommend giving it a try (if you're into MP of course)!

 


I'm pretty sure I heard my vorcha scream 'Big monster!' when a brute showed up once.

Vorcha are awesome


Once, when I was revived by somebody he yelled, "Me alliiive!!"  I nearly fell out of my chair.  :D


For some reason it really amuses me to use my flamethrower on my teammates between rounds.

I like to think my vorcha is just confused, and trying to help.

He doesnt know any better!


You know, if it's a Batarian he's shooting at, he could be doing it for a reason.  There was a rumor going around that they used thermally charged kinetic barriers....