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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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A WITCH! A WITCH! A WITCH!! We have found a witch, may we burn her?


Yes please, it tickles :P anywayback on topic people lol

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dreamgazer wrote...

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http://social.biowar...ndex/10592642/1

I think it's worth taking a look if someone missed it out.


The fact that they've got that much going on in the catalyst's vocal registry really shouldn't be ignored. 


yet...reading all these youtube comments after spending time on this thread...problematic.

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dmay7 wrote...

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I don't fully understand the second reply from Jessica. Could any of you rewrite it with other words?



Interesting, the way I read it is:

There will be parts of the expansion that can be considered as post ending. i.e. The EC will include events after the choices.

However, the stargazer scene could be considered POST ending so it could just be an expansion of that.


I don't know who I hate more, Stargazer or Rieperbieber...

:crying:


What kills me the most about Stargazer is that he says "many of the details got lost in time". Like WHICH details? Does that mean we are missing something (an ending?), or is the Mass Effect series just one of those games you played in first grade where you tell the student behind you a phrase and you get to the end and the last phrase is no where close to the original phrase.


See my thread for my opinion on the Stargazer scene. 

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HellishFiend wrote...

dmay7 wrote...

Corik wrote...

bigstig wrote...

Corik wrote...

I don't fully understand the second reply from Jessica. Could any of you rewrite it with other words?



Interesting, the way I read it is:

There will be parts of the expansion that can be considered as post ending. i.e. The EC will include events after the choices.

However, the stargazer scene could be considered POST ending so it could just be an expansion of that.


I don't know who I hate more, Stargazer or Rieperbieber...

:crying:


What kills me the most about Stargazer is that he says "many of the details got lost in time". Like WHICH details? Does that mean we are missing something (an ending?), or is the Mass Effect series just one of those games you played in first grade where you tell the student behind you a phrase and you get to the end and the last phrase is no where close to the original phrase.


See my thread for my opinion on the Stargazer scene. 

your theory that the kid represents us is supported even more by the fact that the kid actually has shepard's body I like it a lot

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I've created a font table, if someone wants to check if there are other meaningful writings:
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The game uses zero as capital o, so there is no real capital o in neither the default nor the alien font.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 30 mai 2012 - 05:34 .


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plfranke wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...


See my thread for my opinion on the Stargazer scene. 

your theory that the kid represents us is supported even more by the fact that the kid actually has shepard's body I like it a lot


He does?? Did not know that...

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MaximizedAction wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Lat2oo5 wrote...

http://social.biowar...ndex/10592642/1

I think it's worth taking a look if someone missed it out.


The fact that they've got that much going on in the catalyst's vocal registry really shouldn't be ignored. 


yet...reading all these youtube comments after spending time on this thread...problematic.


Clearly sounds like Harby. Crystal clear. It even sound in both channels.

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HellishFiend wrote...

plfranke wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...


See my thread for my opinion on the Stargazer scene. 

your theory that the kid represents us is supported even more by the fact that the kid actually has shepard's body I like it a lot


He does?? Did not know that...

yeah it is normally one of the things that people use to say bioware is lazy, but it always seemed odd to me as if they were really trying to reuse materials they could have gone with anybody, why shepard instead of for instance the child from the game himself? I think you've really got something there

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plfranke wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

plfranke wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...


See my thread for my opinion on the Stargazer scene. 

your theory that the kid represents us is supported even more by the fact that the kid actually has shepard's body I like it a lot


He does?? Did not know that...

yeah it is normally one of the things that people use to say bioware is lazy, but it always seemed odd to me as if they were really trying to reuse materials they could have gone with anybody, why shepard instead of for instance the child from the game himself? I think you've really got something there


Ok, call me stupid, but can one see that it's Shepard's body?

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

I've created a font table, if someone wants to check if there are other meaningful writings:
Posted Image
The game uses zero as capital o, so there is no real capital o in neither the default nor the alien font.

Nothing. Posted Image

Modifié par paxxton, 30 mai 2012 - 05:56 .


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Paxxton, learn to read, it says that zero is the O

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balance5050 wrote...

Paxxton, learn to read, it says that zero is the O

Yup. Just didn't read underneath the pic.

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MaximizedAction wrote...

plfranke wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

plfranke wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...


See my thread for my opinion on the Stargazer scene. 

your theory that the kid represents us is supported even more by the fact that the kid actually has shepard's body I like it a lot


He does?? Did not know that...

yeah it is normally one of the things that people use to say bioware is lazy, but it always seemed odd to me as if they were really trying to reuse materials they could have gone with anybody, why shepard instead of for instance the child from the game himself? I think you've really got something there


Ok, call me stupid, but can one see that it's Shepard's body?

Oh right, at least it's the body of an adult, the head is way too small for a child.

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Heh, I've almost always played as colonist Shepard, so when I played as Spacer and Hackett mentioned her mother, it was almost as if I was dropped in a different universe O_O

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plfranke wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

plfranke wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...


See my thread for my opinion on the Stargazer scene. 

your theory that the kid represents us is supported even more by the fact that the kid actually has shepard's body I like it a lot


He does?? Did not know that...

yeah it is normally one of the things that people use to say bioware is lazy, but it always seemed odd to me as if they were really trying to reuse materials they could have gone with anybody, why shepard instead of for instance the child from the game himself? I think you've really got something there


Me too, and thanks! Post in the thread if you have anything to add. 

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Heh, I've almost always played as colonist Shepard, so when I played as Spacer and Hackett mentioned her mother, it was almost as if I was dropped in a different universe O_O

Look at the power they wield. Look at what they can do. Resurrect Shepard's mom. Posted Image

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

plfranke wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

plfranke wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...


See my thread for my opinion on the Stargazer scene. 

your theory that the kid represents us is supported even more by the fact that the kid actually has shepard's body I like it a lot


He does?? Did not know that...

yeah it is normally one of the things that people use to say bioware is lazy, but it always seemed odd to me as if they were really trying to reuse materials they could have gone with anybody, why shepard instead of for instance the child from the game himself? I think you've really got something there


Ok, call me stupid, but can one see that it's Shepard's body?

Oh right, at least it's the body of an adult, the head is way too small for a child.


:blink:<_<
Man, I was blind. Watched it on youtube and noticed that it actually looks like a giant standing next to a normal person.

Yeah, could be Shepard.

This game is an example how to hide things without hiding them.

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Another point in the talk with the child:
"The created will always rebel against their creators. But we found a way to stop that from happening. A way to restore order for the next cycle."
Didn't every Reaper you've met say something like "You are chaos, we represent order." which has nothing to do with anything being wiped out?

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Another point in the talk with the child:
"The created will always rebel against their creators. But we found a way to stop that from happening. A way to restore order for the next cycle."
Didn't every Reaper you've met say something like "You are chaos, we represent order." which has nothing to do with anything being wiped out?

It's logical. At the beginning there's order (or infinitesimal chaos). Then through the principle of enthropy chaos appears and grows. Then Reapers come, restore order and everything starts again.

Modifié par paxxton, 30 mai 2012 - 06:12 .


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Omg didn't notice that child's body in the stargazer scene. It definitely looks like a giant standing besides a normal human :o I think there's definitely a message being given. Those who deny it are indoctrinated!!

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What the hell... It's true, that "child" has got an adult body and the other one is a giant... But what can this mean? The voice is completely a child voice and, well, it can not be for being lazy because they could use the catalyst body...

Creepy.

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paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Another point in the talk with the child:
"The created will always rebel against their creators. But we found a way to stop that from happening. A way to restore order for the next cycle."
Didn't every Reaper you've met say something like "You are chaos, we represent order." which has nothing to do with anything being wiped out?

It's logical. At the beginning there's order (or infinitesimal chaos). Then through the principle of enthropy chaos appears and grows.


:o
By your analogy the Reapers reduce entropy, thus violating the second law of thermodynamics (assuming it's indeed a principle of nature and not a postulate). Hence, crime against nature (in the literal sense).

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MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Another point in the talk with the child:
"The created will always rebel against their creators. But we found a way to stop that from happening. A way to restore order for the next cycle."
Didn't every Reaper you've met say something like "You are chaos, we represent order." which has nothing to do with anything being wiped out?

It's logical. At the beginning there's order (or infinitesimal chaos). Then through the principle of enthropy chaos appears and grows.


:o
By your analogy the Reapers reduce entropy, thus violating the second law of thermodynamics (assuming it's indeed a principle of nature and not a postulate). Hence, crime against nature (in the literal sense).

I was talking figuratively. Posted Image

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paxxton wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Another point in the talk with the child:
"The created will always rebel against their creators. But we found a way to stop that from happening. A way to restore order for the next cycle."
Didn't every Reaper you've met say something like "You are chaos, we represent order." which has nothing to do with anything being wiped out?

It's logical. At the beginning there's order (or infinitesimal chaos). Then through the principle of enthropy chaos appears and grows.


:o
By your analogy the Reapers reduce entropy, thus violating the second law of thermodynamics (assuming it's indeed a principle of nature and not a postulate). Hence, crime against nature (in the literal sense).

I was talking figuratively.


't was a joke, too. :P

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paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Another point in the talk with the child:
"The created will always rebel against their creators. But we found a way to stop that from happening. A way to restore order for the next cycle."
Didn't every Reaper you've met say something like "You are chaos, we represent order." which has nothing to do with anything being wiped out?

It's logical. At the beginning there's order (or infinitesimal chaos). Then through the principle of enthropy chaos appears and grows. Then Reapers come, restore order and everything starts again.

I'm not saying anything against the logic behind it but how it's worded. It sounds like the ones that created the Reapers also created organics, then organics always at some point rebel against them so they created the Reapers to hold organics in check while not completely destroying organics.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 30 mai 2012 - 06:26 .