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Bill Casey wrote...

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What do you make of the planet? By that, I mean, where do you think they are?

They are here...

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nice top comments...

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Lyrics to the Wintersun album...

1. Beyond The Dark Sun

... For years I have traveled in coldness,
But my heart is warm as the darkened sun above me...
Nothing can never take away
What I've seen with these tired eyes

Face of the weeping night
And the shade of the fading light

The dawn will never rise again for my eyes
And I will never sleep again
I've lost my hope time after time
Cause the light has erased from the sky

Now when the darkness has become part of me
I got to let my shadows free
Cause I never looked behind, I never tried to find
Something that could have made me one
Now when the sorrow has taken control of me
I got to let my shadows free
Cause I never looked behind, I never tried to find
Something that could have made me one
Something that I could reach the Sun


2. Winter Madness

Divine creations now destroyed to uncover the haunted atmosphere
Strange visions of the ancient spirits, travesty of man appears
Coldness and the storming winds lurking for prey
The forces of the Winter reign in dreadful way, there's no escape

I'm following the mistress of night
Through the gates of snow we'll fly
We'll fly

Winter - The realm of eternal ice
Snowfall and darkness descends upon the vales of time
Distant caress of the sun's fading light
The lands were painted white with the Winter's might

My hands are frozen, my mind is at the edge of madness
Oh how many nights and days, I've been lost in this land of sadness

From the primitive thoughts, under the glimmering snow
And burning stones - they'll rise -
The artful spirit: "You don't have to die,
You can rule in afterlife, just concede your soul to me,
(your life is cheap) - no price -"


3. Sleeping Stars

Oh sleeping stars, why are you so sad tonight
Oh sleeping stars, will you shine for me tonight
Oh sleeping stars

Can you see them float in the night sky
Can you hear those echoes of their sweet cries, creating a tune
Can you see them shine so bright
Can you feel their loneliness through their cold light, touching you

My eyes feel so heavy when the stars are calling me
- Join with us eternally -
I'm falling in deep trance and my powers are weakening
I'm falling in a world between dreams and reality

I am now alone in the silent light
And there's nothing but darkness around me
Deeper into unknown the strange light is guiding me
Wake me until it's too late

Suddenly I feel a warmth go through my body
But I feel that a part of me has died, I sense the change in me
I must have been away so long
So please stay with me for a while


4. Battle Against Time

... I'm sailing away to undiscovered seas...

I see a golden light shining far away
I can't tell if I'll make it there someday
I reach my hands but there's no one on my path
I can't sleep 'cause my body is burning
Cold sweat, cannot breath, I'm loosing my mind
Reflection in the mirror shows a different man at night
And as hours and seconds pass by
I feel my every feeling wither and die
Do I really feel this pain
'cause sometimes I can't tell if I'm awake

Watching to the night, the hope is gone
Carrying so much burden in my heart
Watching to the night with tired eyes
Waiting for nothing all my life

Battle against time
I... battle against time

I am covered with cold ice, I am flying in the black skies
Fighting everyday, but it feels like, it's just the same
Oh time... you cut my heart and soul
You carve my will and passion of life
'cause the days of emptiness are piercing through me like arrows

I feel nothing, but hate and love
So much fire inside, so much left undone
Hate&Love

... I'm sailing away and nothing will ever be the same...


5. Death And The Healing

A windstorm dropped a bird from the sky
It fell to the ground and it's wings broke and died
But when the time got by, back to sky it flied
'cause the wings healed in time and the bird was I

Time is the death and the healing
Take your last breath, 'cause death is deceiving
Time is the past, now and tomorrow
Days fly so fast and it leaves me so hollow

A snowstorm blew inside a wolf's eyes
And the frozen tears covered all the mountainsides
But then the time got by and the wolf died
And someday that wolf would be I


6. Starchild

[Part I (Wanderer of Time)]

So mysterious is your world,
Concealed beyond the stars
Far away from the earth,
It flows one with time and dark as the night
Million shapes and colours
Are storming inside your mind
Creating endless dimensions
Forming universes without walls

Let go! of the stars, the stars that fell into the sea
Let go! of your thoughts and dreams,
What can you see now

You cannot save them anymore
- Wanderer of time -
It's too late now
- Creator of Dimensions -
Destroy the walls of time
Hands of the blind are holding your fate
Tides of life will take you away, will take you away

Starchild!
Visions are born from the unknown force
It dominates the way of time
The dream only ends, when the worlds come to an end
Starchild!
You cannot escape to the dark streams of the sea,
To suppress your dreams
Nothing can keep you away from the need to create
'cause your path is free...

[Part II (Burning Star)]

I've hold the fire within myself
Years I've walked in the coldest winds
Through the deserts of sand and snow
The time is passing and I know;
That I'm wasting my life, destroying my dreams
I'm diving into the bottomless sea
From sorrow and pain I find my strength
The more pain I feel, the more I see
Now I'm watching my life flowing in the dark
Like streams of fear running through my heart
And it's wearing me down until I'm gone
Soon I'll join the endless whirls of stars
And I fall (something is dying, yet something is born)
deeper into the unknown voids
And I fall (when will I find my silent dawn)
into infinity like a burning star
I fall like a burning star!

[Part III (The Creation)]

The curtains of mist are fading
And the veils of star clouds are revealed
Storms of new energy
Flows in the depths of my mind
New constellations are born
In total harmony of perfection
And the dissonant unbalance was broken
As the colours fell straight from the light

[Part IV (The Sea of Stars)]

I'm floating in the sea of stars,
I'm drifting away from the shore
I will be lost in the dream when the dark days come
But I will make the time run backwards and
I'll make the stars shine again
I will light up the sky to a bright crimson nights
... And they'll shine together forever
With brilliant silver colours they'll shine forever

[Part V (Finale)]

The whirls of stars takes you now far away
Away from the cold nightmare
Let go of you thoughts and dreams
And you will feel the warmth once again
Starchild! in the Sea of Stars you fall
You fall like a burning star!
Starchild! in the Sea of Stars you fall
... But there is no end to creation


7. Beautiful Death

My face turned pale before the cold eyes of death
My body was frozen by the stare from the dark
I don't want to think of anything, but there's storm of thoughts in my head
I wasn't prepared for this, 'cause I'm not ready to die
Nothing could have prepared me for this
["Only way out is through window of dreams" backwards]

Nothing but blood so red and deceased
Nothing but pain, I fall on my knees
Tormenting demons, I suffer and bleed
Only way out is through window of dreams

The rain whips the lonely and crushed soul
The dark clouds are closing fast, the wind is blowing the colours of life away
The growing shadow will darken my dreams, and with the fire inside me it feeds
I'll be screaming in the stars when it's over
Storms are raging on the path to home, once so silent and calm
The desperate glare of the dark light is cast on the fallen one
And when the illusions sigh no more, the journey to new dream will carry on
'cause life is just a beautiful death

Life turns a new and strange page
They will try to take everything away from me
You'll never know the future
Save me from the rain
Tell me what matters in life, if anything
I'm struggling with sickness
They will try to take everything away from me
Are you trying to hide from the end
Save me from the rain
Save me from the end

`Cause life will always be withering away from us
I want to be alone with you
And I'll give my heart to you, before I go
'cause life is just a beautiful, beautiful death


8. Sadness And Hate

Sad night, the weeper of starwind sky
Take me where the shimmering lights are fading out
Through the shadows of hate and through the fires of grace
I followed the voice in the night, beautiful as black sky,
But nothing I found

My thoughts are captured by the magical chants
Of the spirits, but I cannot see them with these dead eyes
Lost I am in these dismal streams
Lost I am forever in my life

The snow is falling on the withering leaves, I am left in the cold
The shadows are crying in the moonlight
Is this night the last of my life

Have we arrived from our journey, I must ask you now
At last I can cry, 'cause these sad words are calling me tonight
My eyes bleed for you my star, my pride and the love of my heart
But why did you had to fly so far, I raged and it tore me apart
I promise to you with sadness and hate
Wherever I might go, you will know...

I give my life to the withering leaves
To the bleeding moonlight
To the crying shadows
I GIVE MY LIFE TO YOU


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Bill Casey wrote...

NotforProfit wrote...

What do you make of the planet? By that, I mean, where do you think they are?

They are here...

www.youtube.com/watch


LOL... just... lol

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llbountyhunter wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

NotforProfit wrote...

What do you make of the planet? By that, I mean, where do you think they are?

They are here...

www.youtube.com/watch


nice top comments...


Today I'm a a bit ashamed of having been caught up in that mob in the first three weeks, being initially disappointed. Then I found IT, so I tried to find answers.

But still lingering with THAT kind of attitude...that's just the internet, right there.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 30 mai 2012 - 08:09 .


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Why Bioware copied that? Obviously, there's more to the Stargrazer scene than we think. Now I'm 99% sure it's not related with the story in any way. It's just impossible.

Edit: And the name of the song... Starchild. LOL

Modifié par Corik, 30 mai 2012 - 08:11 .


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Bill Casey wrote...

NotforProfit wrote...

What do you make of the planet? By that, I mean, where do you think they are?

They are here...

www.youtube.com/watch


Hm. I found that image, too, when I was looking for pictures of the Stargazer to post on my blog. That image is from 2006, by a Finnish (I'm guessing, based on his name) concept artist, I think. I had thought it looked a lot like the same location. 

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Corik wrote...

Why Bioware copied that? Obviously, there's more to the Stargrazer scene than we think. Now I'm 99% sure it's not related with the story in any way. It's just impossible.

Edit: And the name of the song... Starchild. LOL

It's called artistic inspiration. Posted Image

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NotforProfit wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

NotforProfit wrote...

What do you make of the planet? By that, I mean, where do you think they are?

They are here...

www.youtube.com/watch


Hm. I found that image, too, when I was looking for pictures of the Stargazer to post on my blog. That image is from 2006, by a Finnish (I'm guessing, based on his name) concept artist, I think. I had thought it looked a lot like the same location. 

Now I understand why I had a feeling I saw it somewhere when I first saw the Stargazer ending.

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The picture is some random wallpaper. It's not actually related to the band at all.

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Rosewind wrote...

Have to admit does look like a really tiny Shepard lol.


Well, it IS a male human with a short hairstyle. Might be Sheploo.


Mmmm sheploo....

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Didn't we come to a consensuses that the stargazer thing had nothing to do with start child song

Edit: The wintersun picture and the stargazer scene are similar but the stargazer scene is rendered differently the trees aren't the same there are bushes and things as well.

Modifié par Rosewind, 30 mai 2012 - 08:34 .


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Rosewind wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Have to admit does look like a really tiny Shepard lol.


Well, it IS a male human with a short hairstyle. Might be Sheploo.


Mmmm sheploo....


I wonder if the character model is different if you play as femshep?

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NotforProfit wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Have to admit does look like a really tiny Shepard lol.


Well, it IS a male human with a short hairstyle. Might be Sheploo.


Mmmm sheploo....


I wonder if the character model is different if you play as femshep?

Doesn't seem to be but wow do they walk weird.

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Random question: Off-topic I know but has anyone else noticed that some times when playing Cerberus in MP a random banshee comes in wave 8 or 9. Happen to me three times already but not always though,

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Rosewind wrote...

Random question: Off-topic I know but has anyone else noticed that some times when playing Cerberus in MP a random banshee comes in wave 8 or 9. Happen to me three times already but not always though,


Banshees will be appearing in games against cererus and geth for a while now because we failed last weeks challengeto kill lots of 'em. 

Modifié par Windninja47, 30 mai 2012 - 08:56 .


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Windninja47 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Random question: Off-topic I know but has anyone else noticed that some times when playing Cerberus in MP a random banshee comes in wave 8 or 9. Happen to me three times already but not always though,


Banshees will be appearing in games against cererus and geth for a while now because we failed last weeks challengeto kill lots of 'em. 


Well that blows cause they tend to wipe us ><

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Rosewind wrote...

Random question: Off-topic I know but has anyone else noticed that some times when playing Cerberus in MP a random banshee comes in wave 8 or 9. Happen to me three times already but not always though,


Yes, just happened to me.

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Windninja47 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Random question: Off-topic I know but has anyone else noticed that some times when playing Cerberus in MP a random banshee comes in wave 8 or 9. Happen to me three times already but not always though,


Banshees will be appearing in games against cererus and geth for a while now because we failed last weeks challengeto kill lots of 'em. 


I thought that it was just for the weekend, I like it personally, we get punished for slacking off.

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balance5050 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Random question: Off-topic I know but has anyone else noticed that some times when playing Cerberus in MP a random banshee comes in wave 8 or 9. Happen to me three times already but not always though,


Yes, just happened to me.


In other news I just got my Commendation and Victory pack, managed to get an N7 Valiant, so good times. Looks like we all kicked some ass in the Operation.

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anyone here on ps3?

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Random question: Off-topic I know but has anyone else noticed that some times when playing Cerberus in MP a random banshee comes in wave 8 or 9. Happen to me three times already but not always though,


Yes, just happened to me.


In other news I just got my Commendation and Victory pack, managed to get an N7 Valiant, so good times. Looks like we all kicked some ass in the Operation.

Yeah I got my victory pack and no clue how I did lol

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I've repeated this numerous times over how many threads I don't know.

That scene is. Too. Messed. Up. To. Be. Real.

I really don't understand taking it at face value, I wish I could understand, but I don't.

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IronSabbath88 wrote...

I've repeated this numerous times over how many threads I don't know.

That scene is. Too. Messed. Up. To. Be. Real.

I really don't understand taking it at face value, I wish I could understand, but I don't.


Stargazer, I take it.  It's ... uh, unusual. I honestly still don't know what to do with it, or how to interpret it. 

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Any speculation about the crystal Eva (the Krogan female) gives you? Just played that again... but didn't find a use or mention to the crystal in the game. It's also a one time conversation.

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dreamgazer wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

I've repeated this numerous times over how many threads I don't know.

That scene is. Too. Messed. Up. To. Be. Real.

I really don't understand taking it at face value, I wish I could understand, but I don't.


Stargazer, I take it.  It's ... uh, unusual. I honestly still don't know what to do with it, or how to interpret it. 


The only thing I take from it is "One More Story" which should speak for itself.