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[gunslinger_ruiz]

UrgedDuke wrote...

kind of off topic but a banshee just spawned twice when fighting Cerberus

OT: Kill it with fire!!

[Arian Dynas]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Oh never mind, this forum software is crap for quoting on the iPad.

I don't think it's the forum 

Sorry had to say it lol couldn't resist.....

Non believer! Stone him!

I know alot of Apple users who get stoned.

Boradam wrote...

bigstig wrote...

Are you all PC players? No love for the 360?

This one is not so sure that any ITer's would be willing to play with it if it had the game on PC anyways.


[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/unsure.png[/smilie]

*hug* aww.... I'd play with ya, but I'm working on my novel.

[dmay7]

Ok I was playing SP today and noticed two things, first one is probably nothing, number two raised my suspicions.

Number One: When Garrus tells Shepard to get some sleep, Shepard says "I'll sleep when I'm dead". Now, I know a lot of people say that, but I think it might be foreshadowing that while we think Shepard is dead, he is actually asleep.

Number Two: During the second dream sequence, the first with the oily shadows, I noticed that if you wait a little bit when you approach the kid, the shadows appear to converge on the kid, as if the kid is the source of the shadows.

Thoughts?

[estebanus]

dmay7 wrote...

Ok I was playing SP today and noticed two things, first one is probably nothing, number two raised my suspicions.

Number One: When Garrus tells Shepard to get some sleep, Shepard says "I'll sleep when I'm dead". Now, I know a lot of people say that, but I think it might be foreshadowing that while we think Shepard is dead, he is actually asleep.

Number Two: During the second dream sequence, the first with the oily shadows, I noticed that if you wait a little bit when you approach the kid, the shadows appear to converge on the kid, as if the kid is the source of the shadows.

Thoughts?

Nr.1: Probably nothing.

Nr.2: Interesting, although I think this has already been discussed in length in the old thread, but I'm not entirely sure!

[dmay7]

estebanus wrote...

dmay7 wrote...

Ok I was playing SP today and noticed two things, first one is probably nothing, number two raised my suspicions.

Number One: When Garrus tells Shepard to get some sleep, Shepard says "I'll sleep when I'm dead". Now, I know a lot of people say that, but I think it might be foreshadowing that while we think Shepard is dead, he is actually asleep.

Number Two: During the second dream sequence, the first with the oily shadows, I noticed that if you wait a little bit when you approach the kid, the shadows appear to converge on the kid, as if the kid is the source of the shadows.

Thoughts?

Nr.1: Probably nothing.

Nr.2: Interesting, although I think this has already been discussed in length in the old thread, but I'm not entirely sure!

And I will admit, I was desperatley looking for anything 'yellow' in the dream haha.

[D.Sharrah]

I too was just playing SP...but I have somethign different to dsicuss then dmay7...during the third meeting with Miranda (where she asks for the alliance intel), you have a conversation about control. Miranda starts of with telling Shepard that she wanted to put a control chip in him (not the first time she tells Shep this - which I find interesting in it itself) - but more to the point, she tells Shep why it has been bothering. She goes onto explain that is exactly what her father wanted - to control every aspect of her life and she hated him for it (and ultimately rebelled against him - wink, wink, nod, nod, hint, hint). She goes on to say that when she was given the power, she would have chose control - and now it is the single tihng that she regrets the most...I know that I am doing alot of paraphrasing, but hopefully you get the gist. This in itself I thought struck a huge red flag warning...practically screaming at me, DON'T CHOOSE CONTROL!

Another weird thing about the conversation is that Miranda again informs you that it was TIM that stopped her from putting the control chip in...his reason isn't as important as the fact that he did not want Shepard controlled. Is it odd at all that the character that emodies the choice of control in the ending, wanted nothing to do with it in the previous game? Could there be any clearer indication that TIM is indoctrinated in ME 3?

Modifié par D.Sharrah, 31 mai 2012 - 12:08 .

[masster blaster]

estebanus wrote...

dmay7 wrote...

Ok I was playing SP today and noticed two things, first one is probably nothing, number two raised my suspicions.

Number One: When Garrus tells Shepard to get some sleep, Shepard says "I'll sleep when I'm dead". Now, I know a lot of people say that, but I think it might be foreshadowing that while we think Shepard is dead, he is actually asleep.

Number Two: During the second dream sequence, the first with the oily shadows, I noticed that if you wait a little bit when you approach the kid, the shadows appear to converge on the kid, as if the kid is the source of the shadows.

Thoughts?

Nr.1: Probably nothing.

Nr.2: Interesting, although I think this has already been discussed in length in the old thread, but I'm not entirely sure!

I am not suprise the reapers alternitive is to use the persons memories and turn them against the person being controld and why we can her the fallen talk to Shepard in his/her sleep.

[estebanus]

dmay7 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

dmay7 wrote...

Ok I was playing SP today and noticed two things, first one is probably nothing, number two raised my suspicions.

Number One: When Garrus tells Shepard to get some sleep, Shepard says "I'll sleep when I'm dead". Now, I know a lot of people say that, but I think it might be foreshadowing that while we think Shepard is dead, he is actually asleep.

Number Two: During the second dream sequence, the first with the oily shadows, I noticed that if you wait a little bit when you approach the kid, the shadows appear to converge on the kid, as if the kid is the source of the shadows.

Thoughts?

Nr.1: Probably nothing.

Nr.2: Interesting, although I think this has already been discussed in length in the old thread, but I'm not entirely sure!

And I will admit, I was desperatley looking for anything 'yellow' in the dream haha.

"Sings of oily shadows." Isn't that how the rachni queen described indoctrination? Oh, and of course "the tones of a sour, yellow note."

The first one we've got definite evidence of. That last one... not so much.

[estebanus]

D.Sharrah wrote...

I too was just playing SP...but I have somethign different to dsicuss then dmay7...during the third meeting with Miranda (where she asks for the alliance intel), you have a conversation about control. Miranda starts of with telling Shepard that she wanted to put a control chip in him (not the first time she tells Shep this - which I find interesting in it itself) - but more to the point, she tells Shep why it has been bothering. She goes onto explain that is exactly what her father wanted - to control every aspect of her life and she hated him for it (and ultimately rebelled against him - wink, wink, nod, nod, hint, hint). She goes on to say that when she was given the power, she would have chose control - and now it is the single tihng that she regrets the most...I know that I am doing alot of paraphrasing, but hopefully you get the gist. This in itself I thought struck a huge red flag warning...practically screaming at me, DON'T CHOOSE CONTROL!

Another weird thing about the conversation is that Miranda again informs you that it was TIM that stopped her from putting the control chip in...his reason isn't as important as the fact that he did not want Shepard controlled. Is it odd at all that the character that emodies the choice of control in the ending, wanted nothing to do with it in the previous game? Could there be any clearer indication that TIM is indoctrinated in ME 3?

Hmm... What is the term used for circumstances like this? ah, yes:

FORESHADOWING. You just got slapped in the face with it.

[D.Sharrah]

estebanus wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

I too was just playing SP...but I have somethign different to dsicuss then dmay7...during the third meeting with Miranda (where she asks for the alliance intel), you have a conversation about control. Miranda starts of with telling Shepard that she wanted to put a control chip in him (not the first time she tells Shep this - which I find interesting in it itself) - but more to the point, she tells Shep why it has been bothering. She goes onto explain that is exactly what her father wanted - to control every aspect of her life and she hated him for it (and ultimately rebelled against him - wink, wink, nod, nod, hint, hint). She goes on to say that when she was given the power, she would have chose control - and now it is the single tihng that she regrets the most...I know that I am doing alot of paraphrasing, but hopefully you get the gist. This in itself I thought struck a huge red flag warning...practically screaming at me, DON'T CHOOSE CONTROL!

Another weird thing about the conversation is that Miranda again informs you that it was TIM that stopped her from putting the control chip in...his reason isn't as important as the fact that he did not want Shepard controlled. Is it odd at all that the character that emodies the choice of control in the ending, wanted nothing to do with it in the previous game? Could there be any clearer indication that TIM is indoctrinated in ME 3?

Hmm... What is the term used for circumstances like this? ah, yes:

FORESHADOWING. You just got slapped in the face with it.

Bu.bu..but...wait I thought there was no foreshadowing...or isn't that what the anti-IT people say. 

Edit:  Also anything that lends to credence to the idea that you should not choose anythign but destroy in the ending, is worth mentioning, me thinks.

Modifié par D.Sharrah, 31 mai 2012 - 12:15 .

[estebanus]

D.Sharrah wrote...

estebanus wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

I too was just playing SP...but I have somethign different to dsicuss then dmay7...during the third meeting with Miranda (where she asks for the alliance intel), you have a conversation about control. Miranda starts of with telling Shepard that she wanted to put a control chip in him (not the first time she tells Shep this - which I find interesting in it itself) - but more to the point, she tells Shep why it has been bothering. She goes onto explain that is exactly what her father wanted - to control every aspect of her life and she hated him for it (and ultimately rebelled against him - wink, wink, nod, nod, hint, hint). She goes on to say that when she was given the power, she would have chose control - and now it is the single tihng that she regrets the most...I know that I am doing alot of paraphrasing, but hopefully you get the gist. This in itself I thought struck a huge red flag warning...practically screaming at me, DON'T CHOOSE CONTROL!

Another weird thing about the conversation is that Miranda again informs you that it was TIM that stopped her from putting the control chip in...his reason isn't as important as the fact that he did not want Shepard controlled. Is it odd at all that the character that emodies the choice of control in the ending, wanted nothing to do with it in the previous game? Could there be any clearer indication that TIM is indoctrinated in ME 3?

Hmm... What is the term used for circumstances like this? ah, yes:

FORESHADOWING. You just got slapped in the face with it.

Bu.bu..but...wait I thought there was no foreshadowing...or isn't that what the anti-IT people say. 

Yeah, that's what happens when you don't check your facts.

[prettz]

another thing I'd like to note on my video "Mass Effect 3 Looking for clues in the sound " is that the dream music is considered a sound file and not a music file. so it can be taken into consideration that Shepard is also hearing the music along with us the players.

[masster blaster]

Okay who many people do you all know that have just played ME3 and think the ending is great.
Because I think and you all may know that the one's who think the ending is perfect only focus on the combat and not the story line it's self. But I could be wrong because some people like the ending that have played ME1-ME3 but they say it because they don't want anything to do with IT, ro they are Trolls.

[estebanus]

Also, can I just point out how awesome the Metal gear solid series is?

I've been playing snake eater with my girlfriend for about five hours straight now! Ain't getting boring!

[masster blaster]

prettz wrote...

another thing I'd like to note on my video "Mass Effect 3 Looking for clues in the sound " is that the dream music is considered a sound file and not a music file. so it can be taken into consideration that Shepard is also hearing the music along with us the players.

True when every you hear the big note when the lights on the kid turn red the music is covering the Reaper grow/noise it is making.

[masster blaster]

What if in syntheses Shepard becomes a Reaper? I am saying this because on Jessica Merizan twitter she has a picture of Shepard on a chair as a Reaper while Harby was rebuilding the Relays.

[GoblinSapper]

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?
No. BioWare strongly believes in the team's artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.


What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?
BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3.

I'll just reup this every new page this thread hits till people get it, I suppose.

[estebanus]

GoblinSapper wrote...

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?
No. BioWare strongly believes in the team's artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.


What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?
BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3.

I'll just reup this every new page this thread hits till people get it, I suppose.

Ok then. You go ahead and do that. Not sure what it will help though, besides getting ignored...

[dmay7]

This is why I love this forum and I love this series, and I love these fans. Never before have I met such an immensely dedicated fan base absolutely in love with a franchise who are so dedicated to finding out facts hidden within hundreds of hours of gameplay, looking for hints or any kind of foreshadowing hidden in the tiniest details in the most immense story elements.

Some people call it nitpicking, I call it appreciation.

Even with the ME3's ending, Mass Effect has earned my loyalty.
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As per D.Sharrah, this is only my second playthrough, but I do remember that conversation. I've come to the conclusion that a lot of ME3's dialogue is in fact foreshadowing the end. And a lot of the banter dating back to ME1 hints at the fact the Shepard is most likely indoctrinated, or is gradually reaching the point of no return.

Right now I'm trying to think of something that Shepard has that none of his squadmates have, because let's face it, alot of the theories we;ve been throwing around should also state that the squad should also be indoctrinated, because they have been with Shepard all the time. The only exception being Object Rho. Unless the Prothean beacon that Shepard encountered in ME1 was sabotaged by the Reapers, and thus began Shepards decent into indoctrination.

[masster blaster]

GoblinSapper wrote...

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?
No. BioWare strongly believes in the team's artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.


What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?
BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3.

I'll just reup this every new page this thread hits till people get it, I suppose.

Look they say things but people can lie you know. They want it to be a suprise to all the fans even though some of us have already caught on to what they are doing. Also they promised us a good well ending did they do yet no, but they probaly wanted to know who are there fans and what they are willing to do to save Mass Effect from disaster.

Modifié par masster blaster, 31 mai 2012 - 12:30 .

[estebanus]

masster blaster wrote...

GoblinSapper wrote...

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?
No. BioWare strongly believes in the team's artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.


What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?
BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3.

I'll just reup this every new page this thread hits till people get it, I suppose.

Look they say things but people can lie you know. They want it to be a suprise to all the fans even though some of us have already caught on to what they are doing. Also they promised us a good well endign did they do yet no, but they probaly wanted to know who are there fans and what they are willing to do to save Mass Effect from disaster.

IGNORE HIM.

[masster blaster]

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

GoblinSapper wrote...

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?
No. BioWare strongly believes in the team's artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.


What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?
BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3.

I'll just reup this every new page this thread hits till people get it, I suppose.

Look they say things but people can lie you know. They want it to be a suprise to all the fans even though some of us have already caught on to what they are doing. Also they promised us a good well endign did they do yet no, but they probaly wanted to know who are there fans and what they are willing to do to save Mass Effect from disaster.

IGNORE HIM.

Fine but if he, or she starts talking bad to anybody, or a charicter that we all apriciate then I will keep bothering him, or her untill he,or she leaves okay.

[GoblinSapper]

masster blaster wrote...

GoblinSapper wrote...

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?
No. BioWare strongly believes in the team's artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.


What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?
BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3.

I'll just reup this every new page this thread hits till people get it, I suppose.

Look they say things but people can lie you know. They want it to be a suprise to all the fans even though some of us have already caught on to what they are doing. Also they promised us a good well endign did they do yet no, but they probaly wanted to know who are there fans and what they are willing to do to save Mass Effect from disaster.

Lying to, and angering your customers is bad business. No company risk's stock value for "teh luls", let alone a wholly owned subsidiary of a publically traded publishing giant like EA.

The game was rushed. Thats it. Full stop. There is no grand secret plan, there is no master strategy. You are espousing a religion at this point. If this religion comforts you, then it's fine, but accept that it IS a religion and not a 'science'.

estebanus wrote...

IGNORE HIM.

 

I'd like to state for the record I feverently believed in Indoctrination Theory in the week or two after I finished the game. At this point time and overwhelming evidence have rendered it patently redicuolous. Ignoring logical detraction accomplishes nothing.

Moreover it is disadvantagious. Skeptecism is a manifest shield against the deceptions, blandishments, and advertisements from the company. If, as a skeptic, I am incorrect - then I will be pleasently suprised. If as a believer I am incorrect, I will be crushed, and the likelyhood of having made further purchases in good faith prior will have increased.

Karl Marx once quite controversially stated that Religion was the opiate of the masses. It is not my desire to broach upon such a controversial and frankly, innappropriate topic as that, however I believe the sentiment expressed by his quotation is apt for this situation. "Indoctrination Theory" As it has come to be called is an opiate. It is the manifest rejection of reality for fantasy elements as a coping mechanism for an unpleasent situation, an emotional drug to be used.

Modifié par GoblinSapper, 31 mai 2012 - 12:40 .

[dmay7]

GoblinSapper wrote...

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?
No. BioWare strongly believes in the team's artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.


What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?
BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3.

I'll just reup this every new page this thread hits till people get it, I suppose.

Bungie also said Halo 3 was that final chapter in Master Chiefs journey...
KISS has said for the last 10 years that THIS tour is the farewell tour...
Every Star Trek movie is the FINAL Star Trek movie...
Ric Flair/Hulk Hogan/Mick Foley/Terry Funk would NEVER wrestle again...
Duke Nukem Forever would NEVER be finished...

May I go on?

[masster blaster]

dmay7 wrote...

This is why I love this forum and I love this series, and I love these fans. Never before have I met such an immensely dedicated fan base absolutely in love with a franchise who are so dedicated to finding out facts hidden within hundreds of hours of gameplay, looking for hints or any kind of foreshadowing hidden in the tiniest details in the most immense story elements.

Some people call it nitpicking, I call it appreciation.

Even with the ME3's ending, Mass Effect has earned my loyalty.
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As per D.Sharrah, this is only my second playthrough, but I do remember that conversation. I've come to the conclusion that a lot of ME3's dialogue is in fact foreshadowing the end. And a lot of the banter dating back to ME1 hints at the fact the Shepard is most likely indoctrinated, or is gradually reaching the point of no return.

Right now I'm trying to think of something that Shepard has that none of his squadmates have, because let's face it, alot of the theories we;ve been throwing around should also state that the squad should also be indoctrinated, because they have been with Shepard all the time. The only exception being Object Rho. Unless the Prothean beacon that Shepard encountered in ME1 was sabotaged by the Reapers, and thus began Shepards decent into indoctrination.

Well you also have to look at it from the Reapers point. Shepard is the Hero of this galaxy and stoped the cycle for 3 more years, and lead a on army Ship/squad all by him/herself with out much help from command. Shepard is also an intrestin spesiman to them because Shepard does anything to stop any threat that my cost lifes and lead a team of elite people to take out the Collectors. So in theroy Shepard is the most intresting organic they have ever incounter and is the only person that my pose as a threat to the Reapers.