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[quote]paxxton wrote...
Those hidden sounds are subliminal stimuli. They are meant to influence the player on a subconcious level.[/quote]
Agreed. But they are not meant to be found by the players or to speculate with. IMO.
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I.... think you might be in the wrong thread. This is nothing BUT looking for clues in the game. This seems like a clue. Pretty sure Bioware knew we'd be doing this.
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[quote]gunslinger_ruiz wrote...
Thinking again about the entire end sequence being a puzzle. The "bugs" or "glitches" along with dream like quality.
I'm wondering now, what if those flashback of Liara/Ashley/Kaidan are another piece. What we know, or maybe what we've assumed, is they show your Love Interest BUT only if your LI was one of those three doesn't show any other (Tali, Garrus, Jack, Miranda, Thane etc).
Potential meanings beyond "Bioware didn't have time to render all the LI's"? I've no idea, maybe the characters represent something. All three have been with you from the beginning (obviously not including the one who didn't survive Virmire), the only one who isn't romance-able by both gendered Shepard's is Ashley who is also the only non-biotic, Moreover why would it show Joker then Anderson then your LI? Maybe they represent a part of your mind/soul.... Your skill, your courage, your heart?
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Well, but Garrus was with us from the beginning as well (although not as LI, that's true, the same thing happens with Tali)... I think Liara is the one who gives us a lot of support on the entire serie. Kaidan or Ashley represent our weakness when one of them died in Virmire and, later, Eva attacked the other one. In fact, I see these two scenes very alike:
As to the rest, I do not know... Anderson is almost like our "father" or "mentor" from my point of view but I do not know what to say about Joker in the ending...[/quote]
Great catch! I'd forgotten about the slo-mo in that scene. Thematic connection?
[quote]Corik wrote...
So we don't have any clue from Bioware yet? I'm growing desperate
Today was the first day I went out of home since I ended ME3 (last thursday). I guess it's easier to think I had overcome my depression while talking with you guys & gals. Still feeling like a zombie. Oh well... Nothing new really... time will cure it. Would be nice to have a nice ending to all this, but that never happened to me.
I could really use any good news from Bioware, though.[/quote]
Bioware confirming (or denying) would destroy IT. They have explicitly said they want to give everyone a chance to play and figure it out themselves before they comment further. I have several friends who have not finished ME3 yet- ergo, give them time. Imagine if you'd been told BEFORE you played ME3 that the ending was not real, and that you had to choose Destroy?
[quote]DJBare wrote...
I don't get this, if Bioware are going for the I.T angle then why would they say anything, that's the whole point about I.T, your never sure, for I.T to work they cannot say a thing otherwise it becomes a major spoiler, if they say we are wrong, game over, what's the point, if they say we are close to the truth game over, I.T is a guessing game until the EC is released, but look on the plus side, they are hardly taking pains to deny it.
In my opinion it's best they say absolutely nothing, keep the mystery going until the release.
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+1 to this.
[quote]Corik wrote...
I was thinking about the EC DLC. If they want to explain the endings... then why they don't explain them? I mean, if explaining is what they want, it could be veeery easy. Take a camera, some writters and start recording and explaining what they wrote.
Why the silence? Why the speculation? Why letting the fans go into months of debate, anger and sadness? Why?
There must be something else.[/quote]
See above- it would destroy the whole point of IT. It'd be like stopping halfway through a magic trick and explaining what how the trick was going to work before you pulled it off- it would not longer seem like magic.
[quote]bigstig wrote...
Are you all PC players? No love for the 360? [/quote]
I'm a 360, right here. Username's 'Destructorlio' if you wanna add...
[quote]MadRabbit999 wrote...
Reading something from the poster above... and in reply to his 1-2 hours gameplay... that is not what EC will be about, it will only provide scenes, not gameplay.
And a good estimate is around 15+ minutes more of scenes in order to fill all the gaps and the "what happens after" bits, and not 2 hours.[/quote]
Where are you getting this from? 15 minutes? Who said that? Gamble said he was 'playing' some of the new stuff and that it was some of the best stuff Bioware has ever done. Doesn't sound like only cutscenes to me. In fact they have also said it is 'so much more'. Source > Mindless speculation
[quote]SS2Dante wrote...
There's a bit of ambiguity in what they mean by "scenes". At one point I read something that said you get more dialogue optiony bits, but no actual gamplay. Others said just extra cutscenes.
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Source please.
[quote]dmay7 wrote...
Ok I was playing SP today and noticed two things, first one is probably nothing, number two raised my suspicions.
Number One: When Garrus tells Shepard to get some sleep, Shepard says "I'll sleep when I'm dead". Now, I know a lot of people say that, but I think it might be foreshadowing that while we think Shepard is dead, he is actually asleep.
Number Two: During the second dream sequence, the first with the oily shadows, I noticed that if you wait a little bit when you approach the kid, the shadows appear to converge on the kid, as if the kid is the source of the shadows.
Thoughts?[/quote]
Good catch. As someone noted in the thread yesterday, ME3 is ridden with conversations about Indoctrination, control, sleep, states of mind, not giving into the Reapers, illusions, and general foreshadowing about IT- you talk about almost nothing else. Would be great to do a playthrough of the game and write down every conversation that has a bearing on the final decision.
[quote]GoblinSapper wrote...
I'd like to state for the record I feverently believed in Indoctrination Theory in the week or two after I finished the game. At this point time and overwhelming evidence have rendered it patently redicuolous. Ignoring logical detraction accomplishes nothing. [/quote]
Overwhelming evidence against IT? Please link, I'd love to see it. Honestly, there is so much evidence for IT, and very little against it.
[quote]GoblinSapper wrote...
Moreover it is disadvantagious. Skeptecism is a manifest shield against the deceptions, blandishments, and advertisements from the company. If, as a skeptic, I am incorrect - then I will be pleasently suprised. If as a believer I am incorrect, I will be crushed, and the likelyhood of having made further purchases in good faith prior will have increased.[/quote]
That's actually a good-sense argument. I wish I didn't 'believe' as much as a did, so I could be shielded in the way you describe. But unfortunately belief is not a choice. I am persuaded by the evidence. Why are you so keen that we not be persuaded? It's fine for you to not believe, but your constant reposting of the same material indicates you don't want us to be, either. Why is that?
[quote]GoblinSapper wrote...
Karl Marx once quite controversially stated that Religion was the opiate of the masses. It is not my desire to broach upon such a controversial and frankly, innappropriate topic as that, however I believe the sentiment expressed by his quotation is apt for this situation. "Indoctrination Theory" As it has come to be called is an opiate. It is the manifest rejection of reality for fantasy elements as a coping mechanism for an unpleasent situation, an emotional drug to be used.[/quote]
Please. We're theorizing about the possible end of a computer game. ME3 was designed to distract us from our lives, to entertain us, to make us feel something, to be enjoyed, to be a challenge. If IT is the opiate of the masses, what does that make ME3, and gaming in general, and beyond that, any kind of media?
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