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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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Arian Dynas wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Just played through the Ardat-Yahkshi (sp? whatever) Monastery mission, Indoctrination Theory hints can be seen pretty heavily in there.

But that aside, noticed Rila (one of Samara's daughters for those who don't remember) was undergoing indoctrination but didn't have any physical signs of battle on her. Could just be another design oversight, but could be the Reaper forces were indoctrinating her through a signal of some sort rather than direct contact. A Banshee even impales her, making me think of the Dragon's Teeth method of indoctrination, otherwise why would the Banshee do that? Maybe to stop the detonation but it looked pretty surprise once it saw the detonator active.

So, assuming a Husk of some breed didn't find Rila and stick some sort of Reaper implant in her during a fight, left or died, we can then use her as an example of Reapers indoctrinating specific people without the use of direct contact, they just have to be close enough/have a hub such as a Husk close enough. Does that seem like too much of a stretch? Let me know.


Actually, hasn't that been confirmed several times before? The Cerberus guys  on the derelict Reaper started hallucinating from indoctrination, and I don't think they had any implants.. also, Kenson...


Cerberus jackfaces had direct contact with the Reaper itself, being inside it and all. Dr. Kenson and the other alliance personel wer too close to Object Rho and likely got drawn in and hit by something similar to what we see Shepard get hit by in Arrival. Both cases have definitive Reaper tech to affect the indoctrinatee's, Rila is in an asari monastery, the only Reaper-anything are the husks attacking.


Recall that indoctrination does not require  any form of reaper tech at all, merely the process of becoming a husk does, indoctrination only requires electromagnetic signals and ultra/infrasonic noise.


I have a theory on how Asari/Ardat-Yakshi are turned into Banshee’s without the use of dragon’s teeth or visible implants. I think that the Reapers possibly utilize the Asari’s melding ability to indoctrinate/huskify other Asari. In ME3 the eyes of all Asari that we’ve seen or heard of being turned into Banshee’s go black, just as they do when they meld with another persons mind. Rila’s did before she went postal on her sister and I believe the Asari suffering from PTSD in the hospital mentions that her partner’s eyes were black when she attacked the farmers.

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WinterCrow wrote...

Hey, I wasn't on that list you guys made!

Whatever, I wanted to tell you guys/ask something. A friend of mine linked me an Interview yesterday. Got it from a spanish forum, already translated, so I don't know about the original source. In that interview, Patrick Weekes and Drew Karpyshyn, writers in the Mass Effect saga, said that every single writer was left out of the ending decision, being Mac Walters and Casey Hudson the only ones taking part in it.

He also mentions that some fans were right in something, the ending WAS changed drastically shortly before the release.

Overall, they seem quite angry at how things went, and they openly state they dislike the ending in many ways.

Have you guys discussed this already? I don't know the date of the original interview and I've been away for a while. I know it is still possible that those 2 planned a great plot twist secretly, leaving everyone aside as a ways of avoiding any leak... or something. But still, I found it quite disappointing. While IT is still "possible", I lose a little bit of hope every time something like this happens :/


I think that interview was proven fake.. wasn't it?

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Has anyone considered the Prothean Data on Thessia was a reaper construct?

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WinterCrow wrote...

Hey, I wasn't on that list you guys made!

Whatever, I wanted to tell you guys/ask something. A friend of mine linked me an Interview yesterday. Got it from a spanish forum, already translated, so I don't know about the original source. In that interview, Patrick Weekes and Drew Karpyshyn, writers in the Mass Effect saga, said that every single writer was left out of the ending decision, being Mac Walters and Casey Hudson the only ones taking part in it.

He also mentions that some fans were right in something, the ending WAS changed drastically shortly before the release.

Overall, they seem quite angry at how things went, and they openly state they dislike the ending in many ways.

Have you guys discussed this already? I don't know the date of the original interview and I've been away for a while. I know it is still possible that those 2 planned a great plot twist secretly, leaving everyone aside as a ways of avoiding any leak... or something. But still, I found it quite disappointing. While IT is still "possible", I lose a little bit of hope every time something like this happens :/


It sounds a lot like that "leaked" secret confession that was circulating around hese boards month ago.. about this guys explaining how things should have been but that all writers were cut out in the end, except for 2, which turned out to be fake.

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StElmo wrote...

Has anyone considered the Prothean Data on Thessia was a reaper construct?


I actually suggested the VI might be the Catalyst, since he can apparently in whatever form he wants.o.

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Just played through the Ardat-Yahkshi (sp? whatever) Monastery mission, Indoctrination Theory hints can be seen pretty heavily in there.

But that aside, noticed Rila (one of Samara's daughters for those who don't remember) was undergoing indoctrination but didn't have any physical signs of battle on her. Could just be another design oversight, but could be the Reaper forces were indoctrinating her through a signal of some sort rather than direct contact. A Banshee even impales her, making me think of the Dragon's Teeth method of indoctrination, otherwise why would the Banshee do that? Maybe to stop the detonation but it looked pretty surprise once it saw the detonator active.

So, assuming a Husk of some breed didn't find Rila and stick some sort of Reaper implant in her during a fight, left or died, we can then use her as an example of Reapers indoctrinating specific people without the use of direct contact, they just have to be close enough/have a hub such as a Husk close enough. Does that seem like too much of a stretch? Let me know.


I think she killed her cause she could tell she was heavily resisting it.

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FFZero wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Just played through the Ardat-Yahkshi (sp? whatever) Monastery mission, Indoctrination Theory hints can be seen pretty heavily in there.

But that aside, noticed Rila (one of Samara's daughters for those who don't remember) was undergoing indoctrination but didn't have any physical signs of battle on her. Could just be another design oversight, but could be the Reaper forces were indoctrinating her through a signal of some sort rather than direct contact. A Banshee even impales her, making me think of the Dragon's Teeth method of indoctrination, otherwise why would the Banshee do that? Maybe to stop the detonation but it looked pretty surprise once it saw the detonator active.

So, assuming a Husk of some breed didn't find Rila and stick some sort of Reaper implant in her during a fight, left or died, we can then use her as an example of Reapers indoctrinating specific people without the use of direct contact, they just have to be close enough/have a hub such as a Husk close enough. Does that seem like too much of a stretch? Let me know.


Actually, hasn't that been confirmed several times before? The Cerberus guys  on the derelict Reaper started hallucinating from indoctrination, and I don't think they had any implants.. also, Kenson...


Cerberus jackfaces had direct contact with the Reaper itself, being inside it and all. Dr. Kenson and the other alliance personel wer too close to Object Rho and likely got drawn in and hit by something similar to what we see Shepard get hit by in Arrival. Both cases have definitive Reaper tech to affect the indoctrinatee's, Rila is in an asari monastery, the only Reaper-anything are the husks attacking.


Recall that indoctrination does not require  any form of reaper tech at all, merely the process of becoming a husk does, indoctrination only requires electromagnetic signals and ultra/infrasonic noise.


I have a theory on how Asari/Ardat-Yakshi are turned into Banshee’s without the use of dragon’s teeth or visible implants. I think that the Reapers possibly utilize the Asari’s melding ability to indoctrinate/huskify other Asari. In ME3 the eyes of all Asari that we’ve seen or heard of being turned into Banshee’s go black, just as they do when they meld with another persons mind. Rila’s did before she went postal on her sister and I believe the Asari suffering from PTSD in the hospital mentions that her partner’s eyes were black when she attacked the farmers.


That is... indescribably disturbing. Kiss me, I love it.

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FFZero wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Just played through the Ardat-Yahkshi (sp? whatever) Monastery mission, Indoctrination Theory hints can be seen pretty heavily in there.

But that aside, noticed Rila (one of Samara's daughters for those who don't remember) was undergoing indoctrination but didn't have any physical signs of battle on her. Could just be another design oversight, but could be the Reaper forces were indoctrinating her through a signal of some sort rather than direct contact. A Banshee even impales her, making me think of the Dragon's Teeth method of indoctrination, otherwise why would the Banshee do that? Maybe to stop the detonation but it looked pretty surprise once it saw the detonator active.

So, assuming a Husk of some breed didn't find Rila and stick some sort of Reaper implant in her during a fight, left or died, we can then use her as an example of Reapers indoctrinating specific people without the use of direct contact, they just have to be close enough/have a hub such as a Husk close enough. Does that seem like too much of a stretch? Let me know.


Actually, hasn't that been confirmed several times before? The Cerberus guys  on the derelict Reaper started hallucinating from indoctrination, and I don't think they had any implants.. also, Kenson...


Cerberus jackfaces had direct contact with the Reaper itself, being inside it and all. Dr. Kenson and the other alliance personel wer too close to Object Rho and likely got drawn in and hit by something similar to what we see Shepard get hit by in Arrival. Both cases have definitive Reaper tech to affect the indoctrinatee's, Rila is in an asari monastery, the only Reaper-anything are the husks attacking.


Recall that indoctrination does not require  any form of reaper tech at all, merely the process of becoming a husk does, indoctrination only requires electromagnetic signals and ultra/infrasonic noise.


I have a theory on how Asari/Ardat-Yakshi are turned into Banshee’s without the use of dragon’s teeth or visible implants. I think that the Reapers possibly utilize the Asari’s melding ability to indoctrinate/huskify other Asari. In ME3 the eyes of all Asari that we’ve seen or heard of being turned into Banshee’s go black, just as they do when they meld with another persons mind. Rila’s did before she went postal on her sister and I believe the Asari suffering from PTSD in the hospital mentions that her partner’s eyes were black when she attacked the farmers.


I like where your heads at, just amde me realize Banshee's are the only Reaper ground forces without blue/glowing eyes.

@arian dynas
Well yes I know that, but figured we can use Rila's indoctrination as another example of indoctrination via signal and not direct contact incase an anti-It or literalist says otherwise.

@everyone
Heading to bed. Keep it up, Commanders. Hackett out.

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MadRabbit999 wrote...

WinterCrow wrote...

Hey, I wasn't on that list you guys made!

Whatever, I wanted to tell you guys/ask something. A friend of mine linked me an Interview yesterday. Got it from a spanish forum, already translated, so I don't know about the original source. In that interview, Patrick Weekes and Drew Karpyshyn, writers in the Mass Effect saga, said that every single writer was left out of the ending decision, being Mac Walters and Casey Hudson the only ones taking part in it.

He also mentions that some fans were right in something, the ending WAS changed drastically shortly before the release.

Overall, they seem quite angry at how things went, and they openly state they dislike the ending in many ways.

Have you guys discussed this already? I don't know the date of the original interview and I've been away for a while. I know it is still possible that those 2 planned a great plot twist secretly, leaving everyone aside as a ways of avoiding any leak... or something. But still, I found it quite disappointing. While IT is still "possible", I lose a little bit of hope every time something like this happens :/


It sounds a lot like that "leaked" secret confession that was circulating around hese boards month ago.. about this guys explaining how things should have been but that all writers were cut out in the end, except for 2, which turned out to be fake.


Yes, the only new wrinkle was adding Drew Karpyshyn, who could not have commented on it at all, since he was not at all involved in the development of Mass Effect 3's ending and had left Bioware by that point, and by his OWN statement, he hasn't even had time to play the game yet.

Though I do wonder what he would think of Indoctrination theory. Probably something along the lines of; 'Ha! Yeah, that does sound like something Casey would do."

And for the record WinterCrow? Check the memorial wall again, you're on there, use the ctrl+F searchbox.

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Freudian Slip? lol


Haha, at least somebody likes poor Shepaloo. I don't know why he gets the hate he does.

Sorry just saw that umm it's the Turian Krysae Sniper Rifle, Well I think it is awesome anyway lol

Would love to have the M-90 Indra though ./droool


Ahh, nice. I don't have that one, no idea how it works. Heard good things though.
I have the Indra, but I haven't used it beyond taking it for a spin once to see how it operates. It's a nice gun but I think I prefer the Valiant for the sniper category. The Indra, while far from inaccurate, does waver enough on auto that you'll miss some headshots. Major enemies like banshees or atlases can't be headshotted (anymore) but they're armored anyway and low damage high rate of fire weapons suck against armor regardless. The Valiant has a reasonable damage and rate of fire but it's light for a sniper and it has a lightning quick reload animation. Hoping when I get my commendation pack I can get an upgrade to either the valiant or the hurricane.

If I could find a way to not puke at the weight of it, there's a lot to be said for the javelin too though... it hits for murder. For comparison's sake, the widow hits for 867 at rank one. The javelin hits for 1030. Its scope and half-second firing delay takes some getting used to but the scope sees everything just like geth hunter vision and the shot will go through a bank vault door like it's not even there. However... like I said earlier, it weighs about as much as a krogan. Still, imagine that on an infiltrator that's cloaked for SR damage. Toss in a rail amp and you'll probably see a damn mushroom cloud. ... Damn I wish I could get used to 5 minute cooldowns.

Arian Dynas wrote...

*sigh* do I have to drag out my reaper theory AGAIN?


I will cut you!

Oh, and George Carlin was an idiot and a jackass. My only regret about his being dead is that I'll never get to deck him for that "What the **** do white people have to be blue about?!" skit. I guess he was too drunk and high to notice that not every white person lives a life of wealth abusing drugs and alcohol while they repeat the same jokes for 40 ****ing years instead of doing that "work" thing that he's only heard about.

The garden is reduced to a black square, like it was never there to begin with, in fact the shape of the building was different, as though there was no garden on the roof at all.


Exactly. If that building is burned, it got burned in a regular old fashioned fire or something. Reaper beam cannons don't just blacken the top of one relatively small building. For all we know, maybe that was frickin' pollution. Ever seen the black crap on the tops of smokestacks? An argument could be made for a lot of things, but one thing it does NOT look like is a Reaper attack. Damage is too small and too isolated to a particular spot. And there would still be fire. There were trees in that garden. They'd still be burning.

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

I think that interview was proven fake.. wasn't it?


Yes.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

*snip*

That is... indescribably disturbing. Kiss me, I love it.


Shhh not here Arian to many people :P

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Rifneno wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Freudian Slip? lol


Haha, at least somebody likes poor Shepaloo. I don't know why he gets the hate he does.


I like Shepaloo, he's the definitive Shepard as far as I am concerned. I think he just has what I've termed Ultramarine Syndrome. If you've ever played Warhammer 40,000, you know who the Ultramarines are, they basically are the posterboys for the game, and alot of people knock on them for being boring and bland and uninteresting, but the fact is, they're still awesome, people just get too much of them shoved down their throats, so they become less interesting over time, and well, Shepaloo is the poster boy for Mass Effect...

Arian Dynas wrote...

*sigh* do I have to drag out my reaper theory AGAIN?

I will cut you!

Oh, and George Carlin was an idiot and a jackass. My only regret about his being dead is that I'll never get to deck him for that "What the **** do white people have to be blue about?!" skit. I guess he was too drunk and high to notice that not every white person lives a life of wealth abusing drugs and alcohol while they repeat the same jokes for 40 ****ing years instead of doing that "work" thing that he's only heard about.


You cut me I cut you right back.

And personally I love George Carlin (**** ****** **** **** ****sucker mother****er ******, fart turd and ****. Obligatory, sorry.)

Also, I'll point out that paticular joke was first made in the 70's where everyone was quite aware of that fact, including and especially Carlin himself, since he was living that life at the time, and didn't age well.

George is one of the few comedians who personally can get me rolling, and yet think at the same time, (beats the hell out of Carrot Top or Dane Cook.)

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Rosewind wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

*snip*

That is... indescribably disturbing. Kiss me, I love it.


Shhh not here Arian to many people :P


Meh, who cares? *SNOG* :kissing:

I have no problem with public displays of affection.

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Rifneno wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Freudian Slip? lol


Haha, at least somebody likes poor Shepaloo. I don't know why he gets the hate he does.

Sorry just saw that umm it's the Turian Krysae Sniper Rifle, Well I think it is awesome anyway lol

Would love to have the M-90 Indra though ./droool


Ahh, nice. I don't have that one, no idea how it works. Heard good things though.
I have the Indra, but I haven't used it beyond taking it for a spin once to see how it operates. It's a nice gun but I think I prefer the Valiant for the sniper category. The Indra, while far from inaccurate, does waver enough on auto that you'll miss some headshots. Major enemies like banshees or atlases can't be headshotted (anymore) but they're armored anyway and low damage high rate of fire weapons suck against armor regardless. The Valiant has a reasonable damage and rate of fire but it's light for a sniper and it has a lightning quick reload animation. Hoping when I get my commendation pack I can get an upgrade to either the valiant or the hurricane.

If I could find a way to not puke at the weight of it, there's a lot to be said for the javelin too though... it hits for murder. For comparison's sake, the widow hits for 867 at rank one. The javelin hits for 1030. Its scope and half-second firing delay takes some getting used to but the scope sees everything just like geth hunter vision and the shot will go through a bank vault door like it's not even there. However... like I said earlier, it weighs about as much as a krogan. Still, imagine that on an infiltrator that's cloaked for SR damage. Toss in a rail amp and you'll probably see a damn mushroom cloud. ... Damn I wish I could get used to 5 minute cooldowns.


I love Sheploo I think he smexy, I like the Krysae has 3 shots which is good for a powerful sniper rifle, up until then I was using the raptor more like an assault rifle then a sniper riffle. And makes the enemy explode, only thing I don't like that you can't get head shots and kinda slow to reload.

Edit: Arian is right in my head cannon it's Sheploo even though I play female Shep, but I still think female shep has way better VA'ing

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Also, for fun and to keep up morale, a letter I sent to a friend (too damn long to just call a message)

In my case, I've been on with Bioware since their second game. Baldur's Gate defined my childhood. I played Baldur's Gate one and two over and over so many times I could probably recite every line of dialogue in my sleep, and do an accurate impression of every character (Minsc and Boo stand ready! Every hamster, has his day. Don't ask.) I saw all the care they put into those, and by extension I cared. It even effected how I view romance, realizing that an actual strong relationship comes when two people complement one another, finding this out through a romance with one of the characters, being her strength when she needed some, and her being my innocence which was slowly being consumed by my very nature. Icewind Dale was OK (I still think every Bioware game is best when they make the characters, otherwise it just feels drab and flat and I'm not involved, but hey, it was Infinity Engine, so I still loved it.)

Planescape Torment was another game I REALLY REALLY liked, another Infinity Engine game, so similar and yet they turned every single expectation in the game totally turned on it's head, reversed and switched, and an AMAZING story, not the same "Man V.S. Himself" story we saw, but simply that of an immortal being trying to die, man versus his past, literally getting to sift through thousands of years of history, finding some of the biggest names in Dungeons & Dragons history, and finding out you happened to be those big names, it was awesome, mindblowing too.

I considered Mass Effect the best 20 dollars I ever spent, ever. No more needs to be said.

When I got it, Dragon Age Origins was the best game ever, and I loved the living hell out of it, I played it so much that I eventually went on a binge to get ready for DA2 and got sick of it for a while. (still can't face it again yet. Played waaaaaaaaaaaay too much of it in one sitting. And probably explored too much, when you know everything that's going to happen it gets a bit boring.) Awakening was somewhat eh. It did feel very similar to Dragon Age Origins (perhaps a bit too similar at times), but it felt far too short (yeah I know, expansion pack, but that's personally why I say they should have stuck with the majority of the old companions, way too little time to introduce new ones.) and the bugs did annoy me, but I lived through them and I still liked Awakening.

KoTOR I didn't try until recently, but even I knew the plot twist (which ruined much of the tension for me I am sad to say v.v) but even then I liked it. Neverwinter Nights was, well OK, but I loved Shadows of Undrentide and Hordes of the Underdark so much, they were fantastic, for the first time I truly got the feeling of a good D&D game in videogame form, a little rough around the edges, a little cliched, but tons of adventure, drama and fun, topped with punching out a duke of hell and becoming a legend.

Dragon Age 2 I was betrayed. No not by Bioware, by my local Best Buy. ****ers down there stole my Signature Edition copy and tried to pawn me off with a cheap ass regular copy (they have a tendency to keep the collectors editions of things for themselves down there, thieving bastards.) in the end, I got what I was promised (short of the case, still peeved about that) and I will admit, while I didn't like it nearly as well as Dragon Age Origins, It did entertain me (still felt too rough, needed more work, more time, more care, but well EA was rushing them, IMO they learned their lesson, with Bioware, you want happy fans and lots of money? You don't rush art, it's probably why they gave Bioware their 3 month extension rather than forcing them into release right away.)

Neverwinter Nights 2 I actually played before Neverwinter Nights 1, and I love that as well, it sucked up many hours of my time and like all the others had a distinct flavor. Baldur's Gate was a dark and brooding tale of a man fighting for his very soul, Dragon Age Origins was a dark fantasy in the vein of great epics,

Neverwinter Nights 2 was a Slayers-esque romp along the Sword Coast, a setting I loved at the time (before Wizards of the Coast ruined it, trying to make it more "accessible, with less overpowered characters" THAT WAS HALF THE APPEAL OF THE SETTING YOU ****ING MORONS! No I am not at all fond of WoTC for the way they borked up Dungeons and Dragons with 4th edition, the only thing they do well is trading cards and even that's going downhill, the best thing they ever did was give Paizo Publishing the rights to Dragon Magazine, which lead to Paizo making Pathfinder, which is more D&D than even D&D is now)

Neverwinter Nights 2: The Mask of the Betrayer was another dark and brooding tale of a man's fight for his soul, but in this case very human and character driven, with a source attacking him from the outside rather than within, and it let me explore something I had never seen before, high level 3rd Edition D&D, which was mindblowingly cool for me at the time. Storm of Zehir never impressed me, and while module makers for NWN2 loved it, it felt very "direct-to-video" sequel, probably since they eschewed well written and interesting characters for a player made party and exploration (which in and of itself was OK, Bioware just ended up learning there is one thing Bethesda does well, and that's exploration, and one thing Bioware does well, storyline, these do not intersect. Although maybe I just hate Storm of Zehir because it's so close to 4th edition Forgotten Realms, which ruined the setting for me, since Wizards of the Coast ****ed it up the ass. Who the **** thought a post apocalyptic setting was a GOOD idea for Faerun I ask you? That's what you guys have ****ing Dark Sun for, bring THAT back instead of ****ing up another setting.)

Mass Effect 2 was one of my favorites, and to me one of the most seamless and polished pieces of work I had ever seen in videogames, and before you comment on some bug I never experienced, when I say that I mean in the feeling, everything was sleek and smooth and fast paced, a very Dirty-Dozen action movie feel, and until Mass Effect 3 came along was my personal favorite of the two,(especially since it disposed of the inventory from ME1, I hated that thing, way too damn much crap, having to organize it all the time, spending half an hour figuring out what gear was the best and ugh, If I wanted to spend my time reading columns of numbers and looking at ugly armor I'd play Dungeon Lords, and I never want to play Dungeon Lords. Mass Effect 3's inventory I like so much better, you pick what guns you want, you pick what mods you want and you go, if you need different types of ammo, you change in the field and don't have to spend 5 minutes futzing with your inventory to get something at didn't feel like much of a benefit worth taking the time in ME1 in the first place. But that's neither here nor there.)

ME3 I loved from the moment I got my hands on it, played the demo and was immediately sucked in, since I hadn't played Arrival yet I was wondering what the hell was going on, and was psyched for Arrival (which I also enjoyed, getting the chance to go solo and kinda cowboy around was a hell of alot of fun) and played through it, loooooving the gameplay and getting in the story too, in fact it's where I had my first brush with indoctrination, since when I saw that kid disappear from the vent without so much as a sound (just poof, here one minute, gone the next) my first thought was "That kid ain't really there, is he?" since it's such a common movie trick to indicate when someone is not entirely real.

Mass Effect was really one of the first times I ever cried at anything even approaching a movie (there were a few exceptions, like some very good short pieces I've seen, but very few, sad moments in movies and novels just tend to leave me feeling hollow and empty, rather than crying.) It was ABSOLUTELY the first time I ever felt like crying at something that happened in a videogame, Mass Effect 3 grabbed me up in a fantastic story, for the first time, I wasn't just controlling Shepard, I WAS Shepard, Garrus was my buddy, Ash the woman I loved, Joker the ever present smart mouth I could go to when I needing a bit of stress off, and I did feel stress, I felt the weight of the galaxy on my shoulders.

No matter how you feel about it, you can't deny, Mass Effect 3 is a fantastic game, and more than likely, if it weren't you wouldn't be feeling betrayed or hurt, you would just go on to something else, disappointed? Probably, but I doubt you would feel stabbed or hurt if it didn't touch you emotionally.

And you can see, I have alot of criticisms about Bioware games, but the fact is I do have those criticisms precisely BECAUSE I like them and BECAUSE I care, if I didn't I'd just dismiss them (like Temple of Elemental Evil, which tried to do Baldur's Gate, and failed. Miserably. Atari cannot do what Bioware does.) But the thing about all these criticisms is that with Bioware, they are far more hit than miss with me, which is a far better track record than any other game company I have followed (I'm looking at you Obsidian Entertainment.) and considering at least half if not more than that, of the games I call "good" on my shelf came from the minds of Black Isle entertainment (made up by such lovely people as David Gaider and a number of other big movers and shakers at Bioware) and Bioware itself, I have no issues saying they have my trust. Hell, I spent a page of text gushing about them, they absolutely have my trust. And I'm still excited for Dragon Age 3. It looks awesome.



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Arian Dynas wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

*snip*

That is... indescribably disturbing. Kiss me, I love it.


Shhh not here Arian to many people :P


Meh, who cares? *SNOG* :kissing:

I have no problem with public displays of affection.


Only when I am drunk, thats when I am handsy lol

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Arian Dynas

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Also, I find it highly amusing that the forum apparently censors neither the words ass or ******, and yet **** is somehow pulled in, what's up with that?

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WinterCrow wrote...

Whatever, I wanted to tell you guys/ask something. A friend of mine linked me an Interview yesterday. Got it from a spanish forum, already translated, so I don't know about the original source. In that interview, Patrick Weekes and Drew Karpyshyn, writers in the Mass Effect saga, said that every single writer was left out of the ending decision, being Mac Walters and Casey Hudson the only ones taking part in it.


The original "source" of that claim is a creepy troll pretending to be Weekes (apparently having done that for years already). In other words, the story is bullcrap.

But hey, since I hate being wrong about.. anything, I'll grant you that ego may have played a part in the ending; they thought they produced high-class art that everyone with a half a brain (critics and fans alike) would love, and IT is just a pipe dream. It's possible.

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

StElmo wrote...

Has anyone considered the Prothean Data on Thessia was a reaper construct?


I actually suggested the VI might be the Catalyst, since he can apparently in whatever form he wants.o.

No, I would say the Reapers modified it. As when Shep gets the special power to sense Prothean beacons out of nowhere and everything gets black but she and the console and all the noises are fading out Reaper voices are fading in.

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lex0r11

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Rosewind wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

*snip*

That is... indescribably disturbing. Kiss me, I love it.


Shhh not here Arian to many people :P


Meh, who cares? *SNOG* :kissing:

I have no problem with public displays of affection.


Only when I am drunk, thats when I am handsy lol



*pops up on screen*


Posted Image


What the hell? Where did that come from..

Aaaawwww, damnit.
Always late to the party. :?



EDIT
To the people playing yesterday..
My internet was dead almost the entire day, so sad I couldn't join you guys.

Modifié par lex0r11, 31 mai 2012 - 11:55 .


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Arian Dynas wrote...

Also, I find it highly amusing that the forum apparently censors neither the words ass or ******, and yet **** is somehow pulled in, what's up with that?

I find it strange that they see the need to censor words while using them in their games regularly.

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Lat2oo5

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@WinterCrow: http://blogs.vandal....m/1755302352012
Is that what you are referring to?

Modifié par Lat2oo5, 31 mai 2012 - 11:57 .


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Earthborn_Shepard

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Also, I find it highly amusing that the forum apparently censors neither the words ass or ******, and yet **** is somehow pulled in, what's up with that?

I find it strange that they see the need to censor words while using them in their games regularly.


I find it strange that anyone would ever think censoring words is a good idea

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Also, I find it highly amusing that the forum apparently censors neither the words ass or ******, and yet **** is somehow pulled in, what's up with that?

I find it strange that they see the need to censor words while using them in their games regularly.


Even thought their games are M well MA in my country the forum is only pg thats why.

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<3 party only starts when you get her Lex0r lol