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[SS2Dante]

EpyonX3 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Yeah, unless we can find a scene with Ash as the survivor and Kaiden in the background, I'm just going to attribute this as an easter egg at most.

It would be great if he was creepily staring through the hospital window at you while Shepard has that "talking to the unconcious Ash" moment. We'll bang, ok?

Bricks would be shat
By the way guys, we need (need) to find a way to extract the unrealscript definitions from the game files.

When gibbed did it he picked up this bit of code from the ending sequence:

enum EEndGameOption
{
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthDestroyed,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthDevastated,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthOk,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthOkShepardAlive,
EGO_BecomeAReaperAndEarthDestroyedAndReapersLeave,
EGO_BecomeAReaperAndEarthOkAndReapersLeave,
EGO_HarmonyOfManAndMachine,
EGO_Demo,
EGO_None,
EGO_MAX,
}

Now, I'd love to be able to extract stuff like that, but every time I extract a .pcc file I just end up with loads of 1KB .bin files I can't use ¬_¬
[/code]

I saw that last bit on parabolees blog, but I disagree that's it's evidence for indoc. I mean, even in the literal meaning you do kind of become a reaper in control.

EDIT- although those last three options are interesting....possibly for debugging? Max and min values...not sure about demo...

The more I see stuff like this the more I believe that the Dark Energy script was the real deal. In that script you become a reaper. In the current endings you control all reapers.

Ah now that's a good point.

[dreamgazer]

SS2Dante wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

The more I see stuff like this the more I believe that the Dark Energy script was the real deal. In that script you become a reaper. In the current endings you control all reapers.

Ah now that's a good point.

Blah. Indeed. 

The pile of "mistakes" with pertinent narrative implications just keeps getting taller and taller.  So incredibly bizarre.  Headache inducing, it is. 

[BleedingUranium]

dreamgazer wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

The more I see stuff like this the more I believe that the Dark Energy script was the real deal. In that script you become a reaper. In the current endings you control all reapers.

Ah now that's a good point.

Blah. Indeed. 

The pile of "mistakes" with pertinent narrative implications just keeps getting taller and taller.  So incredibly bizarre.  Headache inducing, it is. 

I'm don't remember the planned dark energy plot very well, but do you guys think it could be in the EC? Would that work?

[D.Sharrah]

Didn't realize that pointing the thread in that direction would lead to pages of speculation...I do agree, if it is a glitch - the timing, thematically, etc. makes it super creepy. Don't think it has anythign do with IT, but interesting enough as is.

And on that note, back on topic...

While playing SP today I seemed to notice something about the James "Hum" banter...is it just me, or does it seem to occur at the end of dialgogue strings that happen after missions that have heavy indoctrination implications (for example, it comes up after Sanctuary).

[MegumiAzusa]

SS2Dante wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Yeah, unless we can find a scene with Ash as the survivor and Kaiden in the background, I'm just going to attribute this as an easter egg at most.

It would be great if he was creepily staring through the hospital window at you while Shepard has that "talking to the unconcious Ash" moment. We'll bang, ok?

Bricks would be shat
By the way guys, we need (need) to find a way to extract the unrealscript definitions from the game files.

When gibbed did it he picked up this bit of code from the ending sequence:

enum EEndGameOption
{
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthDestroyed,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthDevastated,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthOk,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthOkShepardAlive,
EGO_BecomeAReaperAndEarthDestroyedAndReapersLeave,
EGO_BecomeAReaperAndEarthOkAndReapersLeave,
EGO_HarmonyOfManAndMachine,
EGO_Demo,
EGO_None,
EGO_MAX,
}

Now, I'd love to be able to extract stuff like that, but every time I extract a .pcc file I just end up with loads of 1KB .bin files I can't use ¬_¬
[/code]

I saw that last bit on parabolees blog, but I disagree that's it's evidence for indoc. I mean, even in the literal meaning you do kind of become a reaper in control.

EDIT- although those last three options are interesting....possibly for debugging? Max and min values...not sure about demo...

The enum is in the engine, not the pcc files.

also the screenshot suggests the order is actually
EGO_BecomeAReaperAndEarthDestroyedAndReapersLeave,
EGO_BecomeAReaperAndEarthOkAndReapersLeave,
EGO_Demo,
EGO_HarmonyOfManAndMachine,
EGO_MAX,
EGO_None,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthDestroyed,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthDevastated,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthOk,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthOkShepardAlive,

[EpyonX3]

BleedingUranium wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

The more I see stuff like this the more I believe that the Dark Energy script was the real deal. In that script you become a reaper. In the current endings you control all reapers.

Ah now that's a good point.

Blah. Indeed. 

The pile of "mistakes" with pertinent narrative implications just keeps getting taller and taller.  So incredibly bizarre.  Headache inducing, it is. 

I'm don't remember the planned dark energy plot very well, but do you guys think it could be in the EC? Would that work?

Not a chance. In that script, you don't meet with a child, you meet with Harbinger. Harbinger then explains that the reason they harvest is because the reapers do "something" that stop dark energy from ripping the galaxy apart. In each cycle, they create a reaper based on the best civilization in hopes that that civilization's attributes are good enough to end the threat of dark energy. 

They take super interest in humans because we have everything they need to end the threat of galactic destruction. So there will be two option ONLY. One is to allow the harvesting and potentially save the galaxy from ripping apart this cycle and future cycles and control your own human based reaper(Become a reaper) or destroy the reaper and risk the galaxy being destroyed eventually.

That's not going to fit at all. And to be honest, I prefer the dark energy explanation.

[MegumiAzusa]

maxloef wrote...

Corik wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

One more thing: I wasn't sure if this has been brought up yet, but I noticed that during the ending the screen has dark boarders just like in the dreams
*snip*
 the boarders are hard to see but they are in the corners
*snip* 


the boarders can clearly be seen in the corners of this screenshot, just as the rest of the ending

Very good catch! I think that wasn't noticed before. Good one!

actualy that and transitional effects have been discussed to death, turns out they first show up after you get in contact with object rho

No, but their intensity increases.

[DJBare]

EpyonX3 wrote...


Lol no way she's standing at the entrance.

It is Asheley, no doubt

but as these scenes show, models get moved around during scene editing.

Modifié par DJBare, 01 juin 2012 - 02:56 .

[dreamgazer]

DJBare wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...


Lol no way she's standing at the entrance.

It is Asheley, no doubt

but as these scenes show, models get moved around during scene editing.

If placing the other, dead Virmire survivor in the framework of the scene is nothing but a digital hiccup, then that'll be a line crossed for me. I understand why they're linked and something like this can't be avoided, but seeing the ghost of a dead person in the background when Shepard's likely suffering a form of post-trauma stress is an awfully-big, theme-heavy "mistake".  That's one of those things you make sure is air-tight.

There's a difference between roaming body models and seeing something that's never meant to be seen, and it being that poignant. 

Modifié par dreamgazer, 01 juin 2012 - 03:39 .

[lex0r11]

D.Sharrah wrote...

Didn't realize that pointing the thread in that direction would lead to pages of speculation...I do agree, if it is a glitch - the timing, thematically, etc. makes it super creepy. Don't think it has anythign do with IT, but interesting enough as is.

And on that note, back on topic...

While playing SP today I seemed to notice something about the James "Hum" banter...is it just me, or does it seem to occur at the end of dialgogue strings that happen after missions that have heavy indoctrination implications (for example, it comes up after Sanctuary).

It's the right thing if you ask me. That's the purpose of the thread and the one before.

Modifié par lex0r11, 01 juin 2012 - 04:21 .

[Arashi08]

Wow. It's been awhile. I just got back from playing Dragon's Dogma and...well let's just say I didn't think there would be a NEW game that could have a worse ending then ME3's current ones...Capcom proved me wrong...

so...what did I miss? I read about the flycam thing with Ashley or Kaidan, but how does that fit into IT? I skipped over ALOT of pages as you can imagine, being gone so long, so I'm not following this clue lol.

[Big Bad]

Lexor01! Man, without you here, this thread has been almost completely devoid of blue babies!

[lex0r11]

Big Bad wrote...

Lexor01! Man, without you here, this thread has been almost completely devoid of blue babies!

Hm. Now that you're mentioning it, part two of this discussion is yet to be blessed by Blue Baby's presence.

It is late for some time zones, so here is Blue Baby relieving you of your struggle against sleepiness.

[UrgentArchengel]

Ashley is back to haunt her haters. Lol.

[EpyonX3]

DJBare wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...


Lol no way she's standing at the entrance.

It is Asheley, no doubt

but as these scenes show, models get moved around during scene editing.

Yes I know it's her and I've observed the models moving around durin cutscenes. My comment was more about how nobody reacted to her being there. SS2Dante said he read in another thread that Shepard didn't notice because his/her back was turned.

[EpyonX3]

UrgentArchengel wrote...

Ashley is back to haunt her haters. Lol.

Lol I said that earlier. Would be epic if true.

[Big Bad]

lex0r11 wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

Lexor01! Man, without you here, this thread has been almost completely devoid of blue babies!

Hm. Now that you're mentioning it, part two of this discussion is yet to be blessed by Blue Baby's presence.

It is late for some time zones, so here is Blue Baby relieving you of your struggle against sleepiness.

Hooray!


And on that note, I'm off to bed! 

[byne]

For some reason Ashley just being behind Shep in that scene reminds me of this picture:



Now I'm worried Shep and Ashley are gonna appear behind me when I'm not expecting it...

[RavenEyry]

byne wrote...

For some reason Ashley just being behind Shep in that scene reminds me of this picture:

-snip-

Now I'm worried Shep and Ashley are gonna appear behind me when I'm not expecting it...

SOON

[paxxton]

When does that scene with Mordin happen? It seems to be a glitch or a joke.

Modifié par paxxton, 01 juin 2012 - 07:25 .

[Auralius Carolus]

*steps into room for the first time in a couple of weeks*

So yeah, Ohio was nice, Point Pleasant was beautiful... and you guys only made it just shy of 400 pages??? Shameful, I tell ya. So, anything ground braking, like Casey getting a fruit basket from Harbinger?

[Corik]

SS2Dante wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Yeah, unless we can find a scene with Ash as the survivor and Kaiden in the background, I'm just going to attribute this as an easter egg at most.

It would be great if he was creepily staring through the hospital window at you while Shepard has that "talking to the unconcious Ash" moment. We'll bang, ok?

Bricks would be shat
By the way guys, we need (need) to find a way to extract the unrealscript definitions from the game files.

When gibbed did it he picked up this bit of code from the ending sequence:

enum EEndGameOption
{
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthDestroyed,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthDevastated,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthOk,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthOkShepardAlive,
EGO_BecomeAReaperAndEarthDestroyedAndReapersLeave,
EGO_BecomeAReaperAndEarthOkAndReapersLeave,
EGO_HarmonyOfManAndMachine,
EGO_Demo,
EGO_None,
EGO_MAX,
}

Now, I'd love to be able to extract stuff like that, but every time I extract a .pcc file I just end up with loads of 1KB .bin files I can't use ¬_¬
[/code]

I saw that last bit on parabolees blog, but I disagree that's it's evidence for indoc. I mean, even in the literal meaning you do kind of become a reaper in control.

EDIT- although those last three options are interesting....possibly for debugging? Max and min values...not sure about demo...

I've been thinking. In the game, husks, cannibals, marauders, banshees, etc are often called "reaper forces". Become a Reaper could mean that you are not becoming a Reaper like harbinger, but that you just became a Husk, or something similar... basically, you become part of the reaper forces.

That won't explain why Synthesis is called Harmony of man and machine... so my Theory has a big hole. Unless you assume that it mey refer to a harmony like when the Geth where controlled by the Reapers, using Legion to control all of them. In this case using Shepard to somehow control the humans. That could explain why it's called Harmony of MAN and machine, and not Harmony of Organics and Machine. But I see it kinda difficult to be true.

[TSA_383]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Yeah, unless we can find a scene with Ash as the survivor and Kaiden in the background, I'm just going to attribute this as an easter egg at most.

It would be great if he was creepily staring through the hospital window at you while Shepard has that "talking to the unconcious Ash" moment. We'll bang, ok?

Bricks would be shat
By the way guys, we need (need) to find a way to extract the unrealscript definitions from the game files.

When gibbed did it he picked up this bit of code from the ending sequence:

enum EEndGameOption
{
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthDestroyed,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthDevastated,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthOk,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthOkShepardAlive,
EGO_BecomeAReaperAndEarthDestroyedAndReapersLeave,
EGO_BecomeAReaperAndEarthOkAndReapersLeave,
EGO_HarmonyOfManAndMachine,
EGO_Demo,
EGO_None,
EGO_MAX,
}

Now, I'd love to be able to extract stuff like that, but every time I extract a .pcc file I just end up with loads of 1KB .bin files I can't use ¬_¬
[/code]

I saw that last bit on parabolees blog, but I disagree that's it's evidence for indoc. I mean, even in the literal meaning you do kind of become a reaper in control.

EDIT- although those last three options are interesting....possibly for debugging? Max and min values...not sure about demo...

The enum is in the engine, not the pcc files.

also the screenshot suggests the order is actually
EGO_BecomeAReaperAndEarthDestroyedAndReapersLeave,
EGO_BecomeAReaperAndEarthOkAndReapersLeave,
EGO_Demo,
EGO_HarmonyOfManAndMachine,
EGO_MAX,
EGO_None,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthDestroyed,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthDevastated,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthOk,
EGO_ReapersDestroyedEarthOkShepardAlive,

Cheers
Opened up the file in hex editor, asides fromthe game having different "if" loops ready to run based on whether you lived or died (in itself very interesting), it really does check for a lot of variables with the ending sequence.

Certainly doesn't seem like something worth doing for a "finished" product....

[paxxton]

Mark Meer has confirmed doing VO at BioWare.
http://twitter.com/M...304407664791554

Modifié par paxxton, 01 juin 2012 - 08:31 .

[Corik]

paxxton wrote...

Mark Meer has confirmed doing VO at BioWare.
http://twitter.com/M...304407664791554

Another speculation confirmed. As femshep is also recording... There is obviously more dialogue for Shepard in EC. Great news. Great news indeed.