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[DirtyPhoenix]

*Hops to this thread*

[Stigweird85]

Dammit, 2000 pages in a stupid troll spoils the fun - Can we get him banned?

[balance5050]

pirate1802 wrote...

*Hops to this thread*

*Highfives pirate1802"

Time to rebuild.

[byne]

The Invisible Commando wrote...

Fine if your going to rebuild IT then I want all pro IT to answer my question: What is the real ending?

So Shepard wakes up in London and now what....

If I pick Destroy, how do I destroy the Reapers in the real world?

If I pick Control, how do I control the Reapers in the real world?

If I pick Synthesis, do I then have to get up and shoot my squadmates and the allies to save the Reapers? Oh how nice of me to turn traitor at the last second.

Until this has an answer, your Indoctrination Theory falls apart at its core.

Who said destroy or control actually destroyed or controlled in the real world?

Synthesis and control = indoctrinated

Destroy = breaking free

You seem to forget the Crucible is still there. We havent used it yet in IT. We can still use it to beat the Reapers.

[DistantUtopia]

The Invisible Commando wrote...

Okay, here is some opposing. If your going to rebuild IT then I want all pro IT to answer my question: What is the real ending?
 (snip)

That's my main beef with IT, as much as I want to believe it (see my post above).  The game will always have a "true" ending.  For IT to be true, what is the true ending then?

[balance5050]

DistantUtopia wrote...

The Invisible Commando wrote...

Okay, here is some opposing. If your going to rebuild IT then I want all pro IT to answer my question: What is the real ending?
 (snip)

That's my main beef with IT, as much as I want to believe it (see my post above).  The game will always have a "true" ending.  For IT to be true, what is the true ending then?

Hence the *Extended* cut.

[Dendio1]

Indoctrination Theory.

I think the truth is that the endings were not a dream. However shepard is being influenced by the reapers and most of the IT evidence is legit. Shepard will not wake up to continue the fight, but we can speculate that control and synthesis are sugar coated bad endings. We can speculate that destroy does not kill the geth or edi, since shepard lives.

[nightcobra]

snip

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 14 mai 2012 - 05:50 .

[Allen Spellwaver]

I guess the lockdown of that thread reflected that IT is correct.

[Nauks]

The Invisible Commando wrote...

Okay, here is some opposing. If your going to rebuild IT then I want all pro IT to answer my question: What is the real ending?

So Shepard wakes up in London and now what....

If I pick Destroy, how do I destroy the Reapers in the real world?

If I pick Control, how do I control the Reapers in the real world?

If I pick Synthesis, do I then have to get up and shoot my squadmates and the allies to save the Reapers? Oh how nice of me to turn traitor at the last second.

Until this has an answer, your Indoctrination Theory falls apart at its core.

Shouldn't you be asking Bioware this? 
There's not much in the way of "breadcrumbs" telling us what happens next after the current ending, as far as analysis goes, it does not equal mindreading.

[DistantUtopia]

byne wrote...


Who said destroy or control actually destroyed or controlled in the real world?

Synthesis and control = indoctrinated

Destroy = breaking free

You seem to forget the Crucible is still there. We havent used it yet in IT. We can still use it to beat the Reapers.

Yes, but again, assuming IT to be true, what happens afterwards for Synthesis/Control?  I can't believe that Shepard (as someone so eloquently put it) simply ups and shoots his friends in the back after waking up.

[MaximizedAction]

Unschuld wrote...

I was going to suggest that maybe those opposing shadows could suggest the opposite facets of personality, but that's probably been mentioned before. I'm still not completely convinced that it wasn't just a lighting issue.

Fair point. But the shadows seem to magically work again after TIM is shot...

Here another great pic made by

MegumiAzusa wrote...


Shadows move quite a bit.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 14 mai 2012 - 05:46 .

[balance5050]

I think we'll be going with the most popular I.T. for the main. But that's also a reasonable interpretation.

[The Invisible Commando]

byne wrote...

The Invisible Commando wrote...

Fine if your going to rebuild IT then I want all pro IT to answer my question: What is the real ending?

So Shepard wakes up in London and now what....

If I pick Destroy, how do I destroy the Reapers in the real world?

If I pick Control, how do I control the Reapers in the real world?

If I pick Synthesis, do I then have to get up and shoot my squadmates and the allies to save the Reapers? Oh how nice of me to turn traitor at the last second.

Until this has an answer, your Indoctrination Theory falls apart at its core.

Who said destroy or control actually destroyed or controlled in the real world?

Synthesis and control = indoctrinated

Destroy = breaking free

You seem to forget the Crucible is still there. We havent used it yet in IT. We can still use it to beat the Reapers.

So you assume Control somehow means Indocrinated? Oh yes not only TIM thinks he can use Reaper tech, but some Protheans also tried to and that is mentioned on Thessia. They are all wrong or Indoctrinated?

[M Hedonist]

The Invisible Commando wrote...

Okay, here is some opposing. If your going to rebuild IT then I want all pro IT to answer my question: What is the real ending?

So Shepard wakes up in London and now what....

If I pick Destroy, how do I destroy the Reapers in the real world?

If I pick Control, how do I control the Reapers in the real world?

If I pick Synthesis, do I then have to get up and shoot my squadmates and the allies to save the Reapers? Oh how nice of me to turn traitor at the last second.

Until this has an answer, your Indoctrination Theory falls apart at its core.

I believe the details are best left to Bioware. What the future may bring if IT is true we can't possibly know.
Essentially, it's:
Destroy--> resisted indoctrination attempt, can go on to save the world (maybe use the 'real' crucible?)
Control or Synthesis--> game over (probably); or, same as above, but you can't directly control Shepard or something like that

[EpyonX3]

Ok not gonna lie. I freaked out a bit when I refreshed and couldn't post. I feel better now.

[byne]

DistantUtopia wrote...

byne wrote...


Who said destroy or control actually destroyed or controlled in the real world?

Synthesis and control = indoctrinated

Destroy = breaking free

You seem to forget the Crucible is still there. We havent used it yet in IT. We can still use it to beat the Reapers.

Yes, but again, assuming IT to be true, what happens afterwards for Synthesis/Control?  I can't believe that Shepard (as someone so eloquently put it) simply ups and shoots his friends in the back after waking up.

Then dont pick Synthesis/Control?

[Unschuld]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

I was going to suggest that maybe those opposing shadows could suggest the opposite facets of personality, but that's probably been mentioned before. I'm still not completely convinced that it wasn't just a lighting issue.

Fair point. But the shadows seem to magically work again after TIM is shot...

Here another great pic made by

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Shadows move quite a bit.

Yes, part of my point... and what might that suggest? 

Either the shadows resolved themselves because the lighting was right or...

Modifié par Unschuld, 14 mai 2012 - 05:49 .

[byne]

The Invisible Commando wrote...

byne wrote...

The Invisible Commando wrote...

Fine if your going to rebuild IT then I want all pro IT to answer my question: What is the real ending?

So Shepard wakes up in London and now what....

If I pick Destroy, how do I destroy the Reapers in the real world?

If I pick Control, how do I control the Reapers in the real world?

If I pick Synthesis, do I then have to get up and shoot my squadmates and the allies to save the Reapers? Oh how nice of me to turn traitor at the last second.

Until this has an answer, your Indoctrination Theory falls apart at its core.

Who said destroy or control actually destroyed or controlled in the real world?

Synthesis and control = indoctrinated

Destroy = breaking free

You seem to forget the Crucible is still there. We havent used it yet in IT. We can still use it to beat the Reapers.

So you assume Control somehow means Indocrinated? Oh yes not only TIM thinks he can use Reaper tech, but some Protheans also tried to and that is mentioned on Thessia. They are all wrong or Indoctrinated?

Umm, its made pretty clear they were indoctrinated. So they were both wrong AND indoctrinated.

[estebanus]

Anyway, what about the sound when firing the gun in the decision chamber? I'm pretty sure that it sounded like a sigh...

[balance5050]

DistantUtopia wrote...

byne wrote...


Who said destroy or control actually destroyed or controlled in the real world?

Synthesis and control = indoctrinated

Destroy = breaking free

You seem to forget the Crucible is still there. We havent used it yet in IT. We can still use it to beat the Reapers.

Yes, but again, assuming IT to be true, what happens afterwards for Synthesis/Control?  I can't believe that Shepard (as someone so eloquently put it) simply ups and shoots his friends in the back after waking up.

I think the "gameplay sequence where Shepard falls under full reaper control" mentioned in the FInal Hours App, is alluding to this post indoc sequence you are referring to.

The EC will show us hopefully.

[Rosewind]

Byne I have an Idea why don't we make our own group?

[EpyonX3]

Dante, I saw some of those assets. There is one to your right as you start walking to the choices. These items are hard to spot since they are also shown very quickly throughout the game and while under fire from Geth Primes lol.

[DirtyPhoenix]

Allen Spellwaver wrote...

I guess the lockdown of that thread reflected that IT is correct.

Lol that was my first thought when I saw the lockdown. We were staying pretty ontopic. Perhaps a little too ontopic?
*mysterious smile*

[paxxton]

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