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HellishFiend wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
If they do roll with I.T., no one will fall for it ever again, atleast in mass effect.
Like I said a while back, something can only be unprecedented once, and never again. This is the only time something like this is going to work for gaming, and that's why IT has captivated my attention so much. It's basically a one-time experience.
The guy in this video explains the original ME3 plot in the first 9 minutes of the video:Turbo_J wrote...
SirLugash wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
I sincerely hope it is inconsequential. It's got a colossal flaw. The Milky Way is one galaxy of hundreds of billions in the observable universe. If dark energy was going to rip reality apart, it's going to do it regardless. Fixing the problem in the Milky Way and expecting the universe to keep going is like sticking a wine cork in an iceberg shaped hole and expecting the Titanic to be fine.
Considering the Reapers harvest the galaxy every 50k years, I would assume that the dark energy problem only occurs in milky way because of the extensive use of dark energy for mass relays, biotics etc.
Other galaxies may either not have the technology to use dark energy or, as you already said, they have their own kind of reapers.
The only problem with this is the logic loop it creates. It's almost as bad as the synthetics will always kill organics cycle.
If Dark Energy is really that big of a problem that could result in the destruction of the galaxy... and it is caused by the use of Mass Effect technology and biotics, why would the Reapers leave this tech for organics to find and thus guide them down a direct path to galactic annihilation? Why wouldn't they simply eliminate all Mass Effect tech and developed a way to render Eezo inert.
I think the Dark Energy build up is a threat to the Reapers, not the galaxy. I think the cycle is there to prevent DE buildup and to prevent organics from making a logic link/discovery... That the solution to the Reaper problem is using that build up of DE via the Crucible or something like it, to take care of the Reaper threat once and for all.
Modifié par SirLugash, 02 juin 2012 - 05:11 .
On the contrary. If IT is true, then the whole synthetic vs organic theme might just have been BS from Starchild to lure Shepard into an incorrect choice and BioWare can easily explore the possibilities with dark energy and neutron starsbalance5050 wrote...
paxxton wrote...
Why not? I want to play ME4.balance5050 wrote...
paxxton wrote...
They have scrapped it. BioWare have a history of moving plot arcs between games. The same was with the Cerberus coup. It was meant to happen in Mass Effect 2 but was cut out and moved to ME3. So maybe they plan for ME4 afterall.balance5050 wrote...
paxxton wrote...
May I ask where did you come up with all that dark energy stuff? There's hardly any mention of it in Mass Effect if I'm not wrong.HellishFiend wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
Turbo_J wrote...
Harbinger wants you to think dark energy build up is inconsequential... So does Bioware. It gives them something to write about in ME4
I sincerely hope it is inconsequential. It's got a colossal flaw. The Milky Way is one galaxy of hundreds of billions in the observable universe. If dark energy was going to rip reality apart, it's going to do it regardless. Fixing the problem in the Milky Way and expecting the universe to keep going is like sticking a wine cork in an iceberg shaped hole and expecting the Titanic to be fine.
That is one of the main reasons why I theorize that Dark Energy was always either a red herring or originally going to be the Reapers's false motivation instead of the "Synthetics destroying all Organics" thing.
It was the original lead writers plan to have the reaperx motivation be to stop dark energy. I think more people would have fallen for it and less people would have complained.
Paxxton..... no.
Me too but they won't be bring up the dark energy plot again, they had their chance to use that against us and went with the synthetic threat instead. I would have preferred dark energy though because really that threat is just as far off as synthetics glassing every planet.
If they do roll with I.T., no one will fall for it ever again, atleast in mass effect.
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Modifié par paxxton, 02 juin 2012 - 05:17 .
Rifneno wrote...
I was having a conversation with someone about WWII a few years back. I forget what I said that triggered it but my 16 year old niece overheard part of it, gasped, and asked in a hushed tone, "Hitler was real?!" I just stared at her speechless.
byne wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
I was having a conversation with someone about WWII a few years back. I forget what I said that triggered it but my 16 year old niece overheard part of it, gasped, and asked in a hushed tone, "Hitler was real?!" I just stared at her speechless.
16 years old?! Seriously?
Though, to be fair, I didnt think castles were real until I was like 8.
RavenEyry wrote...
I've never been bothered by the dark energy thing because I think it's just set dressing. It's mentioned nearly the same amount of times in 2 and 3, despite people claiming it was dropped after all that buildup. I'm not saying dark energy isn't a potential problem, but that it's not Shep's problem to solve. Despite evidence to the contrary, the universe does not revolve around Shepard.
dreamgazer wrote...
byne wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
I was having a conversation with someone about WWII a few years back. I forget what I said that triggered it but my 16 year old niece overheard part of it, gasped, and asked in a hushed tone, "Hitler was real?!" I just stared at her speechless.
16 years old?! Seriously?
Though, to be fair, I didnt think castles were real until I was like 8.
People think the sinking of the Titanic was only in a movie, too.
Macross wrote...
masster blaster wrote...
Well the note pad at the end said download more dlc for the continuation of Shepard/legend so who knows.
Wasn't talking about that. I meant the post game email received on the ME3datapad app. The one where a LI or other character asks if Shepard is okay and that they'll see them soon.
dreamgazer wrote...
byne wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
I was having a conversation with someone about WWII a few years back. I forget what I said that triggered it but my 16 year old niece overheard part of it, gasped, and asked in a hushed tone, "Hitler was real?!" I just stared at her speechless.
16 years old?! Seriously?
Though, to be fair, I didnt think castles were real until I was like 8.
People think the sinking of the Titanic was only in a movie, too.
dreamgazer wrote...
RavenEyry wrote...
I've never been bothered by the dark energy thing because I think it's just set dressing. It's mentioned nearly the same amount of times in 2 and 3, despite people claiming it was dropped after all that buildup. I'm not saying dark energy isn't a potential problem, but that it's not Shep's problem to solve. Despite evidence to the contrary, the universe does not revolve around Shepard.
Indeed.
Brings up the idea of there being other Shepards in the universe doing the exact same thing to prevent dark matter's sprawl. Hell, the Stargazer could have been telling the story of another Shepard somewhere, for all we know.
Modifié par HellishFiend, 02 juin 2012 - 05:22 .
byne wrote...
dreamgazer wrote...
byne wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
I was having a conversation with someone about WWII a few years back. I forget what I said that triggered it but my 16 year old niece overheard part of it, gasped, and asked in a hushed tone, "Hitler was real?!" I just stared at her speechless.
16 years old?! Seriously?
Though, to be fair, I didnt think castles were real until I was like 8.
People think the sinking of the Titanic was only in a movie, too.
The intelligence of a lot of people these days is fairly worrying, to be honest.
It's even more shocking when you think that there's Bing to search for all the info in no time.byne wrote...
dreamgazer wrote...
byne wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
I was having a conversation with someone about WWII a few years back. I forget what I said that triggered it but my 16 year old niece overheard part of it, gasped, and asked in a hushed tone, "Hitler was real?!" I just stared at her speechless.
16 years old?! Seriously?
Though, to be fair, I didnt think castles were real until I was like 8.
People think the sinking of the Titanic was only in a movie, too.
The intelligence of a lot of people these days is fairly worrying, to be honest.
byne wrote...
dreamgazer wrote...
byne wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
I was having a conversation with someone about WWII a few years back. I forget what I said that triggered it but my 16 year old niece overheard part of it, gasped, and asked in a hushed tone, "Hitler was real?!" I just stared at her speechless.
16 years old?! Seriously?
Though, to be fair, I didnt think castles were real until I was like 8.
People think the sinking of the Titanic was only in a movie, too.
The intelligence of a lot of people these days is fairly worrying, to be honest.
paxxton wrote...
byne wrote...
The intelligence of a lot of people these days is fairly worrying, to be honest.
It's even more shocking when you think that there's Bing to search for all the info in no time.
HellishFiend wrote...
dreamgazer wrote...
RavenEyry wrote...
I've never been bothered by the dark energy thing because I think it's just set dressing. It's mentioned nearly the same amount of times in 2 and 3, despite people claiming it was dropped after all that buildup. I'm not saying dark energy isn't a potential problem, but that it's not Shep's problem to solve. Despite evidence to the contrary, the universe does not revolve around Shepard.
Indeed.
Brings up the idea of there being other Shepards in the universe doing the exact same thing to prevent dark matter's sprawl. Hell, the Stargazer could have been telling the story of another Shepard somewhere, for all we know.
Indeed +1. If the universe was truly as infinite as the Reapers' "Synthetics destroying all organics everywhere" spiel strongly implies, then Stargazer could have just as easily been talking about anything else. But I dont even believe the Stargazer scene was part of the story at all, so it's a moot point to me.
Modifié par masster blaster, 02 juin 2012 - 05:26 .
HellishFiend wrote...
Indeed +1. If the universe was truly as infinite as the Reapers' "Synthetics destroying all organics everywhere" spiel strongly implies, then Stargazer could have just as easily been talking about anything else. But I dont even believe the Stargazer scene was part of the story at all, so it's a moot point to me.
Yup, there are some out there.byne wrote...
paxxton wrote...
byne wrote...
The intelligence of a lot of people these days is fairly worrying, to be honest.
It's even more shocking when you think that there's Bing to search for all the info in no time.
People actually use Bing?
I still use Google
balance5050 wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Indeed +1. If the universe was truly as infinite as the Reapers' "Synthetics destroying all organics everywhere" spiel strongly implies, then Stargazer could have just as easily been talking about anything else. But I dont even believe the Stargazer scene was part of the story at all, so it's a moot point to me.
Jumped on too your thread and immediately saw thr ugly side of bsn. It's like theres a bunch of book burners logged on all the time. reminds me of this:
*snip*
HellishFiend wrote...
lol, some of you guys are really funny. Someone could write a PhD dissertation on the psychology of it taking more than 2 and a half months to get over what you perceive to be a letdown over a videogame, and still being on the forums complaining about it despite having no belief in something good coming of it.
I'm here because I believe something better is coming. Not sure why you guys are here to be honest. To bump my topic, apparently? Thanks.
balance5050 wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Indeed +1. If the universe was truly as infinite as the Reapers' "Synthetics destroying all organics everywhere" spiel strongly implies, then Stargazer could have just as easily been talking about anything else. But I dont even believe the Stargazer scene was part of the story at all, so it's a moot point to me.
Jumped on too your thread and immediately saw thr ugly side of bsn. It's like theres a bunch of book burners logged on all the time. reminds me of this:
Modifié par MaximizedAction, 02 juin 2012 - 05:28 .
masster blaster wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Indeed +1. If the universe was truly as infinite as the Reapers' "Synthetics destroying all organics everywhere" spiel strongly implies, then Stargazer could have just as easily been talking about anything else. But I dont even believe the Stargazer scene was part of the story at all, so it's a moot point to me.
well remeber Bioware said there was an easter egg but a lot of people were thinking it was the breathing sence though I think it was the Stargazer sence, or we the fans made the easter egg up.
HellishFiend wrote...
dreamgazer wrote...
RavenEyry wrote...
I've never been bothered by the dark energy thing because I think it's just set dressing. It's mentioned nearly the same amount of times in 2 and 3, despite people claiming it was dropped after all that buildup. I'm not saying dark energy isn't a potential problem, but that it's not Shep's problem to solve. Despite evidence to the contrary, the universe does not revolve around Shepard.
Indeed.
Brings up the idea of there being other Shepards in the universe doing the exact same thing to prevent dark matter's sprawl. Hell, the Stargazer could have been telling the story of another Shepard somewhere, for all we know.
Indeed +1. If the universe was truly as infinite as the Reapers' "Synthetics destroying all organics everywhere" spiel strongly implies, then Stargazer could have just as easily been talking about anything else. But I dont even believe the Stargazer scene was part of the story at all, so it's a moot point to me.
HellishFiend wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Indeed +1. If the universe was truly as infinite as the Reapers' "Synthetics destroying all organics everywhere" spiel strongly implies, then Stargazer could have just as easily been talking about anything else. But I dont even believe the Stargazer scene was part of the story at all, so it's a moot point to me.
Jumped on too your thread and immediately saw thr ugly side of bsn. It's like theres a bunch of book burners logged on all the time. reminds me of this:
*snip*
The funny thing is almost all the trolls disappeared from the thread when I burned them with this:HellishFiend wrote...
lol, some of you guys are really funny. Someone could write a PhD dissertation on the psychology of it taking more than 2 and a half months to get over what you perceive to be a letdown over a videogame, and still being on the forums complaining about it despite having no belief in something good coming of it.
I'm here because I believe something better is coming. Not sure why you guys are here to be honest. To bump my topic, apparently? Thanks.
balance5050 wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Indeed +1. If the universe was truly as infinite as the Reapers' "Synthetics destroying all organics everywhere" spiel strongly implies, then Stargazer could have just as easily been talking about anything else. But I dont even believe the Stargazer scene was part of the story at all, so it's a moot point to me.
Jumped on too your thread and immediately saw thr ugly side of bsn. It's like theres a bunch of book burners logged on all the time. reminds me of this:
HellishFiend wrote...
The funny thing is almost all the trolls disappeared from the thread when I burned them with this:HellishFiend wrote...
lol, some of you guys are really funny. Someone could write a PhD dissertation on the psychology of it taking more than 2 and a half months to get over what you perceive to be a letdown over a videogame, and still being on the forums complaining about it despite having no belief in something good coming of it.
I'm here because I believe something better is coming. Not sure why you guys are here to be honest. To bump my topic, apparently? Thanks.
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