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Indeed +1.  If the universe was truly as infinite as the Reapers' "Synthetics destroying all organics everywhere" spiel strongly implies, then Stargazer could have just as easily been talking about anything else. But I dont even believe the Stargazer scene was part of the story at all, so it's a moot point to me. 


Jumped on too your thread and immediately saw thr ugly side of bsn. It's like theres a bunch of book burners logged on all the time.

Wow... just wow. I don't personally agree with that interpretation but if I'd seen it I would have thought about it and attempted to discuss the idea, unlike virtually everyone in that thread. I skimmed the first page and every single reply I saw was a petty insult. I doubt most of those ...people... even read it properly or thought about it before banging their heads on the keyboard.

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Indeed +1.  If the universe was truly as infinite as the Reapers' "Synthetics destroying all organics everywhere" spiel strongly implies, then Stargazer could have just as easily been talking about anything else. But I dont even believe the Stargazer scene was part of the story at all, so it's a moot point to me. 


I think the Stargazer scene telling a "general" story of the Shepard(s) kinda falls into a similar idea as yours.  Doesn't matter if it's this Shepard or that Shepard: it's the general idea of "the Shepard" that pertains to the audience.

Also, I think that might be---MIGHT be---why BioWare used the familiar space winter image as the *cough* inspiration for the backdrop: to create a type of visual link between what we're seeing at the end and an image we're "familiar" with in the modern era. 

:wizard:


Not sure if you missed this or not, but the Stargazer scene's background isnt just based on a classic image, it's taken directly from the artwork of this album which is based on that classic image. I believe there is a clue hidden in the lyrics of that album somewhere, though I'm not sure if we've discovered what it is or not. 

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RavenEyry wrote...

Wow... just wow. I don't personally agree with that interpretation but if I'd seen it I would have thought about it and attempted to discuss the idea, unlike virtually everyone in that thread. I skimmed the first page and every single reply I saw was a petty insult. I doubt most of those ...people... even read it properly or thought about it before banging their heads on the keyboard.


Feel free to jump in and add your thoughts to the thread, as I and several other people are in it that show interest in the idea. 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 02 juin 2012 - 05:36 .


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HellishFiend wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Indeed +1.  If the universe was truly as infinite as the Reapers' "Synthetics destroying all organics everywhere" spiel strongly implies, then Stargazer could have just as easily been talking about anything else. But I dont even believe the Stargazer scene was part of the story at all, so it's a moot point to me. 


well remeber Bioware said there was an easter egg but a lot of people were thinking it was the breathing sence though I think it was the Stargazer sence, or we the fans made the easter egg up.


I agree. 


I dont think the Stargazer scene actually occurs if you didnt import a save file for your very first playthrough.

I think you either had to import a save or beat the game twice to see it.

So it kind of is an easter egg, except nearly everyone imported a save, so they didnt realize it.

Though I could be wrong about all of that.

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little correction there. It's "Søren", not "Soren."

How does it differ?

Modifié par paxxton, 02 juin 2012 - 05:42 .


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HellishFiend wrote...

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Indeed +1.  If the universe was truly as infinite as the Reapers' "Synthetics destroying all organics everywhere" spiel strongly implies, then Stargazer could have just as easily been talking about anything else. But I dont even believe the Stargazer scene was part of the story at all, so it's a moot point to me. 


I think the Stargazer scene telling a "general" story of the Shepard(s) kinda falls into a similar idea as yours.  Doesn't matter if it's this Shepard or that Shepard: it's the general idea of "the Shepard" that pertains to the audience.

Also, I think that might be---MIGHT be---why BioWare used the familiar space winter image as the *cough* inspiration for the backdrop: to create a type of visual link between what we're seeing at the end and an image we're "familiar" with in the modern era. 

:wizard:


Not sure if you missed this or not, but the Stargazer scene's background isnt just based on a classic image, it's taken directly from the artwork of this album which is based on that classic image. I believe there is a clue hidden in the lyrics of that album somewhere, though I'm not sure if we've discovered what it is or not. 


I thought this was the cover of the album:

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http://www.amazon.co...38658699&sr=8-1 

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HellishFiend wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Wow... just wow. I don't personally agree with that interpretation but if I'd seen it I would have thought about it and attempted to discuss the idea, unlike virtually everyone in that thread. I skimmed the first page and every single reply I saw was a petty insult. I doubt most of those ...people... even read it properly or thought about it before banging their heads on the keyboard.


Feel free to jump in and add your thoughts to the thread, as I and several other people are in it that show interest in the idea. 

Eh, seems a bit late, I don't like coming into threads after several pages. I do however want to complement you for the idea and for the reply that you reposted here. Personally I'm on BSN because of IT, not because I felt like spending aover two months ****ing about a single game.

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estebanus wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Indeed +1.  If the universe was truly as infinite as the Reapers' "Synthetics destroying all organics everywhere" spiel strongly implies, then Stargazer could have just as easily been talking about anything else. But I dont even believe the Stargazer scene was part of the story at all, so it's a moot point to me. 


Jumped on too your thread and immediately saw thr ugly side of bsn. It's like theres a bunch of book burners logged on all the time. reminds me of this:

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little correction there. It's "Søren", not "Soren."

What's the difference?



The line going through the O.

with the line it sounds like this: "eerrrr," you know, kinda like the sound you make when you're confused. Without the line, it sounds like this: "oh."

Sorry, it's because Søren Kirkegård was danish, and I'm partly danish, so I knew that :P

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dreamgazer wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...


Not sure if you missed this or not, but the Stargazer scene's background isnt just based on a classic image, it's taken directly from the artwork of this album which is based on that classic image. I believe there is a clue hidden in the lyrics of that album somewhere, though I'm not sure if we've discovered what it is or not. 


I thought this was the cover of the album:

Posted Image

http://www.amazon.co...38658699&sr=8-1 




I'm not sure where the red version of the album artwork came from, to be honest, but it definitely predates the stargazer scene, so that has to mean something. 

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MaximizedAction wrote...

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balance5050 wrote...

If they do roll with I.T.,  no one will fall for it ever again, atleast in mass effect.


Like I said a while back, something can only be unprecedented once, and never again. This is the only time something like this is going to work for gaming, and that's why IT has captivated my attention so much. It's basically a one-time experience.


For me it's the closest thing to watching the first moonlanding on TV. Really, not much big going on in my generation.


It really is innovative...
Indoctrinating and dividing the player base...
The single greatest plot twist in gaming history...
Bioware would be fools to pass it up...

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RavenEyry wrote...

Eh, seems a bit late, I don't like coming into threads after several pages. I do however want to complement you for the idea and for the reply that you reposted here. Personally I'm on BSN because of IT, not because I felt like spending aover two months ****ing about a single game.


Thanks, and yeah, trolls have no comeback to the sentiments in that reply I made, because its an irrefutable point. 

We stand nearly 3 months after the game's release. If you no longer have faith in Bioware and think ME3 is a failure, you have closure. If you have closure, 3 months is plenty of time to grieve and move on. If you're still here, then either something is fundamentally wrong with you, or you're a troll. 

The only people that should still be here at this point are the ones who believe something better is on the way. 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 02 juin 2012 - 05:45 .


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estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Indeed +1.  If the universe was truly as infinite as the Reapers' "Synthetics destroying all organics everywhere" spiel strongly implies, then Stargazer could have just as easily been talking about anything else. But I dont even believe the Stargazer scene was part of the story at all, so it's a moot point to me. 


Jumped on too your thread and immediately saw thr ugly side of bsn. It's like theres a bunch of book burners logged on all the time. reminds me of this:

Posted Image  



little correction there. It's "Søren", not "Soren."

What's the difference?



The line going through the O.

with the line it sounds like this: "eerrrr," you know, kinda like the sound you make when you're confused. Without the line, it sounds like this: "oh."

Sorry, it's because Søren Kirkegård was danish, and I'm partly danish, so I knew that :P

Thanks for the clarification. Now it's time for closure. What about å?

Modifié par paxxton, 02 juin 2012 - 05:49 .


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That red light totally made me think that tree was a Reaper for a second.

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paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Indeed +1.  If the universe was truly as infinite as the Reapers' "Synthetics destroying all organics everywhere" spiel strongly implies, then Stargazer could have just as easily been talking about anything else. But I dont even believe the Stargazer scene was part of the story at all, so it's a moot point to me. 


Jumped on too your thread and immediately saw thr ugly side of bsn. It's like theres a bunch of book burners logged on all the time. reminds me of this:

Posted Image  



little correction there. It's "Søren", not "Soren."

What's the difference?



The line going through the O.

with the line it sounds like this: "eerrrr," you know, kinda like the sound you make when you're confused. Without the line, it sounds like this: "oh."

Sorry, it's because Søren Kirkegård was danish, and I'm partly danish, so I knew that :P

Thans for the clarification. Now it's time for closure. What about å?



Hmmm... that's a tough one. Say for example, when a person gets hit in the stomach, he may let out a sound like "orgkh!" Å kinda sounds like that!

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byne wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...


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That red light totally made me think that tree was a Reaper for a second.


Thank the Guardian I'm not the only one...

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 Adding a new topic to the discussion:

Does anyone have any idea what is going on in this picture?

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Someone came along and posted it in this thread without any clarification or speculation about it. If I had to guess, I'd say it has to be either a glitch or some kind of mod. Thoughts anyone?

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estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

little correction there. It's "Søren", not "Soren."

What's the difference?



The line going through the O.

with the line it sounds like this: "eerrrr," you know, kinda like the sound you make when you're confused. Without the line, it sounds like this: "oh."

Sorry, it's because Søren Kirkegård was danish, and I'm partly danish, so I knew that :P

Thans for the clarification. Now it's time for closure. What about å?



Hmmm... that's a tough one. Say for example, when a person gets hit in the stomach, he may let out a sound like "orgkh!" Å kinda sounds like that!

So both of them are like umlauts in German.

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HellishFiend wrote...

 Adding a new topic to the discussion:

Does anyone have any idea what is going on in this picture?

Posted Image

Someone came along and posted it in this thread without any clarification or speculation about it. If I had to guess, I'd say it has to be either a glitch or some kind of mod. Thoughts anyone?



Eeewww... that is a side of Ashley I never want to see!:sick:

I think it's just a glitch, because that doesn't happen on the PS3, but I've seen it happen on the PC, so I guess that's just a PC bug.

Modifié par estebanus, 02 juin 2012 - 05:52 .


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byne wrote...

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I was having a conversation with someone about WWII a few years back. I forget what I said that triggered it but my 16 year old niece overheard part of it, gasped, and asked in a hushed tone, "Hitler was real?!" I just stared at her speechless.


16 years old?! Seriously?

Though, to be fair, I didnt think castles were real until I was like 8.


How do you think I feel?  She's blood relation to me!  :crying:

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If Ash was dead in that pic that means she haunts Shep twice while Kaiden politely stays dead. Women eh?

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paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

little correction there. It's "Søren", not "Soren."

What's the difference?



The line going through the O.

with the line it sounds like this: "eerrrr," you know, kinda like the sound you make when you're confused. Without the line, it sounds like this: "oh."

Sorry, it's because Søren Kirkegård was danish, and I'm partly danish, so I knew that :P

Thans for the clarification. Now it's time for closure. What about å?



Hmmm... that's a tough one. Say for example, when a person gets hit in the stomach, he may let out a sound like "orgkh!" Å kinda sounds like that!

So both of them are like umlauts in German.



yeah, kinda.

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HellishFiend wrote...

 Adding a new topic to the discussion:

Does anyone have any idea what is going on in this picture?

Posted Image

Someone came along and posted it in this thread without any clarification or speculation about it. If I had to guess, I'd say it has to be either a glitch or some kind of mod. Thoughts anyone?


Probable a glitch but then again she was in action during the Collector attack on Horizon for a while and the Collectors could have done something to her, but ya a glitch.

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HellishFiend wrote...

 Adding a new topic to the discussion:

Does anyone have any idea what is going on in this picture?

Posted Image

Someone came along and posted it in this thread without any clarification or speculation about it. If I had to guess, I'd say it has to be either a glitch or some kind of mod. Thoughts anyone?


Whats going on with that picture is it's going to be haunting my nightmares for the next few days, thats what!

To be serious though, it kind of reminds me of glitch I used to see in WoW every once in a while. I have an old pic:

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Seems like the game is just mapping something else's face texture onto the wrong model.

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estebanus wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

 Adding a new topic to the discussion:

Does anyone have any idea what is going on in this picture?

Posted Image

Someone came along and posted it in this thread without any clarification or speculation about it. If I had to guess, I'd say it has to be either a glitch or some kind of mod. Thoughts anyone?



Eeewww... that is a side of Ashley I never want to see!:sick:

I think it's just a glitch, because that doesn't happen on the PS3, but I've seen it happen on the PC, so I guess that's just a PC bug.




The problem is, if it's a glitch, then its a multi-faceted glitch, because not only is her appearance twisted and distorted, but she seems to be using the walking animation of a husk. 

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HellishFiend wrote...

estebanus wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

 Adding a new topic to the discussion:

Does anyone have any idea what is going on in this picture?

Posted Image

Someone came along and posted it in this thread without any clarification or speculation about it. If I had to guess, I'd say it has to be either a glitch or some kind of mod. Thoughts anyone?



Eeewww... that is a side of Ashley I never want to see!:sick:

I think it's just a glitch, because that doesn't happen on the PS3, but I've seen it happen on the PC, so I guess that's just a PC bug.




The problem is, if it's a glitch, then its a multi-faceted glitch, because not only is her appearance twisted and distorted, but she seems to be using the walking animation of a husk. 



that's just her jumping animation, I think. Liara does the exact same animation.