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[paxxton]

SubAstris wrote...

I wonder what ITers think the Catalyst actually is, since the one in the ending isn't real, and will it be revealed? Or what of Vendetta's comments, that the Reapers were not masters of their own cycles, but servants to something else greater? Will that be dropped for something else?

The Citadel.

[Rosewind]

SubAstris wrote...

I wonder what ITers think the Catalyst actually is, since the one in the ending isn't real, and will it be revealed? Or what of Vendetta's comments, that the Reapers were not masters of their own cycles, but servants to something else greater? Will that be dropped for something else?

I still think that they come from another galaxy to keep us in check to stop us from finding out that there are other life forms in other galaxy's and trying to conqueror them.

[Arian Dynas]

SubAstris wrote...

I wonder what ITers think the Catalyst actually is, since the one in the ending isn't real, and will it be revealed? Or what of Vendetta's comments, that the Reapers were not masters of their own cycles, but servants to something else greater? Will that be dropped for something else?

The Catalyst remains what it always was. The Citadel. And my opinion on the Reaper's beginnings and motives may be found in a link in my sig. If you wish to continue this discussion, come back when you have read it.

[MegumiAzusa]

Arian Dynas wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

I wonder what ITers think the Catalyst actually is, since the one in the ending isn't real, and will it be revealed? Or what of Vendetta's comments, that the Reapers were not masters of their own cycles, but servants to something else greater? Will that be dropped for something else?

The Catalyst remains what it always was. The Citadel. And my opinion on the Reaper's beginnings and motives may be found in a link in my sig. If you wish to continue this discussion, come back when you have read it.

In my opinion it's the Reapers who altered the plans to incorporate the Citadel after the first finished version blew away one of theirs. (Derelict Reaper in ME2)

[Arian Dynas]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

I wonder what ITers think the Catalyst actually is, since the one in the ending isn't real, and will it be revealed? Or what of Vendetta's comments, that the Reapers were not masters of their own cycles, but servants to something else greater? Will that be dropped for something else?

The Catalyst remains what it always was. The Citadel. And my opinion on the Reaper's beginnings and motives may be found in a link in my sig. If you wish to continue this discussion, come back when you have read it.

In my opinion it's the Reapers who altered the plans to incorporate the Citadel after the first finished version blew away one of theirs. (Derelict Reaper in ME2)

It's an interesting thought, but I still personally cleave to the theory that the Crucible was originally designed into the Citadel out of desperation, the Citadel being a massive Mass Relay, as well as extremely powerful, IMO the whole thing was designed to be a huge mass accelerator cannon.

[paxxton]

Arian Dynas wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

I wonder what ITers think the Catalyst actually is, since the one in the ending isn't real, and will it be revealed? Or what of Vendetta's comments, that the Reapers were not masters of their own cycles, but servants to something else greater? Will that be dropped for something else?

The Catalyst remains what it always was. The Citadel. And my opinion on the Reaper's beginnings and motives may be found in a link in my sig. If you wish to continue this discussion, come back when you have read it.

In my opinion it's the Reapers who altered the plans to incorporate the Citadel after the first finished version blew away one of theirs. (Derelict Reaper in ME2)

It's an interesting thought, but I still personally cleave to the theory that the Crucible was originally designed into the Citadel out of desperation, the Citadel being a massive Mass Relay, as well as extremely powerful, IMO the whole thing was designed to be a huge mass accelerator cannon.

You still have to remember that nobody knows how the Citadel is built. The Crucible was adapted to the Citadel being considered a black box.

[Arian Dynas]

paxxton wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

I wonder what ITers think the Catalyst actually is, since the one in the ending isn't real, and will it be revealed? Or what of Vendetta's comments, that the Reapers were not masters of their own cycles, but servants to something else greater? Will that be dropped for something else?

The Catalyst remains what it always was. The Citadel. And my opinion on the Reaper's beginnings and motives may be found in a link in my sig. If you wish to continue this discussion, come back when you have read it.

In my opinion it's the Reapers who altered the plans to incorporate the Citadel after the first finished version blew away one of theirs. (Derelict Reaper in ME2)

It's an interesting thought, but I still personally cleave to the theory that the Crucible was originally designed into the Citadel out of desperation, the Citadel being a massive Mass Relay, as well as extremely powerful, IMO the whole thing was designed to be a huge mass accelerator cannon.

You still have to remember that nobody knows how the Citadel is built. The Crucible was adapted to the Citadel being considered a black box.

I argue that the Crucible was designed off the Citadel, not the other way around.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

anything new in the last few days?

[paxxton]

Arian Dynas wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

I wonder what ITers think the Catalyst actually is, since the one in the ending isn't real, and will it be revealed? Or what of Vendetta's comments, that the Reapers were not masters of their own cycles, but servants to something else greater? Will that be dropped for something else?

The Catalyst remains what it always was. The Citadel. And my opinion on the Reaper's beginnings and motives may be found in a link in my sig. If you wish to continue this discussion, come back when you have read it.

In my opinion it's the Reapers who altered the plans to incorporate the Citadel after the first finished version blew away one of theirs. (Derelict Reaper in ME2)

It's an interesting thought, but I still personally cleave to the theory that the Crucible was originally designed into the Citadel out of desperation, the Citadel being a massive Mass Relay, as well as extremely powerful, IMO the whole thing was designed to be a huge mass accelerator cannon.

You still have to remember that nobody knows how the Citadel is built. The Crucible was adapted to the Citadel being considered a black box.

I argue that the Crucible was designed off the Citadel, not the other way around.

But Vendetta says that the Citadel was incorporated into the Crucible design at a later time, not from the beginning. 

Modifié par paxxton, 04 juin 2012 - 12:07 .

[paxxton]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

anything new in the last few days?

You may be interested in the Metaconvergence Theory.
http://social.biowar.../index/12089259

Modifié par paxxton, 04 juin 2012 - 12:03 .

[Arian Dynas]

paxxton wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

I wonder what ITers think the Catalyst actually is, since the one in the ending isn't real, and will it be revealed? Or what of Vendetta's comments, that the Reapers were not masters of their own cycles, but servants to something else greater? Will that be dropped for something else?

The Catalyst remains what it always was. The Citadel. And my opinion on the Reaper's beginnings and motives may be found in a link in my sig. If you wish to continue this discussion, come back when you have read it.

In my opinion it's the Reapers who altered the plans to incorporate the Citadel after the first finished version blew away one of theirs. (Derelict Reaper in ME2)

It's an interesting thought, but I still personally cleave to the theory that the Crucible was originally designed into the Citadel out of desperation, the Citadel being a massive Mass Relay, as well as extremely powerful, IMO the whole thing was designed to be a huge mass accelerator cannon.

You still have to remember that nobody knows how the Citadel is built. The Crucible was adapted to the Citadel being considered a black box.

I argue that the Crucible was designed off the Citadel, not the other way around.

But Vendetta says that the Citadel was incorporated into the Crucible design at a later time, now from the beginning. 

 

Crucible designers attempt to create a massive cannon, find they don't have the Relay knowledge, find they lack the power, think of how to turn a relay into a weapon, do so with their own relay causing the Klendagon Impact. Reapers seize the plans, one of two things happen, the plans are modified by the reapers so they use the citadel, which the reapers seize at the beginning of every cycle, or a later cycle decides that it would be a good idea to use the biggest possible relay for their cannon.

[Arian Dynas]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

anything new in the last few days?

I re-wrote my script, check my sig for the link, we might have discovered either pipes or rebar in the breath scene, maybe, determined the stages and symptoms of indoctrination and noticed that Destroy is only a viable option if you choose to disbelive the star child.

[paxxton]

Arian Dynas wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

I wonder what ITers think the Catalyst actually is, since the one in the ending isn't real, and will it be revealed? Or what of Vendetta's comments, that the Reapers were not masters of their own cycles, but servants to something else greater? Will that be dropped for something else?

The Catalyst remains what it always was. The Citadel. And my opinion on the Reaper's beginnings and motives may be found in a link in my sig. If you wish to continue this discussion, come back when you have read it.

In my opinion it's the Reapers who altered the plans to incorporate the Citadel after the first finished version blew away one of theirs. (Derelict Reaper in ME2)

It's an interesting thought, but I still personally cleave to the theory that the Crucible was originally designed into the Citadel out of desperation, the Citadel being a massive Mass Relay, as well as extremely powerful, IMO the whole thing was designed to be a huge mass accelerator cannon.

You still have to remember that nobody knows how the Citadel is built. The Crucible was adapted to the Citadel being considered a black box.

I argue that the Crucible was designed off the Citadel, not the other way around.

But Vendetta says that the Citadel was incorporated into the Crucible design at a later time, now from the beginning. 

 

Crucible designers attempt to create a massive cannon, find they don't have the Relay knowledge, find they lack the power, think of how to turn a relay into a weapon, do so with their own relay causing the Klendagon Impact. Reapers seize the plans, one of two things happen, the plans are modified by the reapers so they use the citadel, which the reapers seize at the beginning of every cycle, or a later cycle decides that it would be a good idea to use the biggest possible relay for their cannon.

It'd seem then that the Reapers have a perfect plan that cannot fail. They use hope (the Crucible as the last thing that can defeat them) to lure all the forces of the Galaxy to the Citadel (one place) and then crush them leaving the rest of the Galaxy  defenseless and vulnerable.

EDIT: There was only a single non-Reaper-built relay, namely the Conduit, and perhaps its counterpart on the Citadel (the relay statue). They couldn't have been used on Klendagon because after that they would've been utterly destroyed by he Reapers.

Modifié par paxxton, 04 juin 2012 - 12:27 .

[ivenoidea]

Unschuld wrote...

The patterns on them aren't quite identical to the objects in the breath scene though.

I'm not really invested in the whole "scumbag Carnifex/Paragon Predator" theory, but just in case anyone is curious, BioD_End002_510Red.pcc contains both models. The other two packages below it (blue and green) only have the carnifex. Not exactly ground breaking, but I don't think including all the files for an extra pistol model in just one ending is just "oversight".

This is the reason: www.youtube.com/watch

go to 4:00, the gun actually changes!
 edit: dammit just realized that I was 20 pages behind on my readin.. well damn. Maybe someone has not seen this yet.

Modifié par ivenoidea, 04 juin 2012 - 12:30 .

[estebanus]

Hello again. Anything new?

[paxxton]

estebanus wrote...

Hello again. Anything new?

Hi! We were just discussing why would the Protheans even bother building the Crucible if they had no chance of winning.

EDIT: Actually, we discussed it yesterday. Today we discussed that they didn't quite knew what the Citadel was for.

Modifié par paxxton, 04 juin 2012 - 12:54 .

[ivenoidea]

I'm wondering, what is this forums opinion on the "beings of light" theory?

I think IT and BOL fit together nicely.

www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par ivenoidea, 04 juin 2012 - 12:51 .

[SubAstris]

Rosewind wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

I wonder what ITers think the Catalyst actually is, since the one in the ending isn't real, and will it be revealed? Or what of Vendetta's comments, that the Reapers were not masters of their own cycles, but servants to something else greater? Will that be dropped for something else?

I still think that they come from another galaxy to keep us in check to stop us from finding out that there are other life forms in other galaxy's and trying to conqueror them.

Interesting, although it is likely that this would be foreshadowed in the game. Got any evidence for it? 

[paxxton]

LOL. It's not a weekend today. And this thread seems sleepy. I guess everybody's prepping for the E3 conferences today.

Modifié par paxxton, 04 juin 2012 - 12:58 .

[Earthborn_Shepard]

paxxton wrote...

LOL. It's not a weekend today. And this thread seems sleepy. I guess everybody's prepping for the E3 conferences today.

I'm watching the new Tomb Raider trailer for the 20th time now (yes, I'm a fan)

[Rosewind]

SubAstris wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

I wonder what ITers think the Catalyst actually is, since the one in the ending isn't real, and will it be revealed? Or what of Vendetta's comments, that the Reapers were not masters of their own cycles, but servants to something else greater? Will that be dropped for something else?

I still think that they come from another galaxy to keep us in check to stop us from finding out that there are other life forms in other galaxy's and trying to conqueror them.

Interesting, although it is likely that this would be foreshadowed in the game. Got any evidence for it? 

Nope, besides reaper's live in deep space so.... no lol it's just cause we know nothing about the origins of the reapers *ignores starbinger*

[paxxton]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

paxxton wrote...

LOL. It's not a weekend today. And this thread seems sleepy. I guess everybody's prepping for the E3 conferences today.

I'm watching the new Tomb Raider trailer for the 20th time now (yes, I'm a fan)

I might shock you but for me the best part was The Angel of Darkness. It's a pity they didn't continue it.

Modifié par paxxton, 04 juin 2012 - 01:02 .

[Rosewind]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

paxxton wrote...

LOL. It's not a weekend today. And this thread seems sleepy. I guess everybody's prepping for the E3 conferences today.

I'm watching the new Tomb Raider trailer for the 20th time now (yes, I'm a fan)

Didn't they just release one?

[Earthborn_Shepard]

paxxton wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

paxxton wrote...

LOL. It's not a weekend today. And this thread seems sleepy. I guess everybody's prepping for the E3 conferences today.

I'm watching the new Tomb Raider trailer for the 20th time now (yes, I'm a fan)

I might shock you but for me the best part was The Angel of Darkness. It's a pity they didn't continue it.

... a fellow AoD fan.. never thought I'd see the day

yes it was amazing...  a bit too creepy for me though

better than that piece of sh*t Legend

[paxxton]

Rosewind wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

paxxton wrote...

LOL. It's not a weekend today. And this thread seems sleepy. I guess everybody's prepping for the E3 conferences today.

I'm watching the new Tomb Raider trailer for the 20th time now (yes, I'm a fan)

Didn't they just release one?

This one is a prequel to the whole series.

Modifié par paxxton, 04 juin 2012 - 01:05 .